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"When your friend has no idea what you're talking about" - Second Build (REVISIONED!)

by tomtomj2

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67 Comments

Details

Date Published

Feb. 5, 2016

Date Built

Jan. 28, 2016

CPU Clock Rate

3.5 GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

50.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

70.0° C

GPU Core Clock Rate

820 MHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

4.008 GHz

GPU Temperature While Idle

45.0° C

GPU Temperature Under Load

65.0° C

Description

UPDATE 7/14/2016: This build has been majorly updated, click here to see the upgraded build.

This build was a ultra budget idea that I spoke to friend about after he tossed his old Dell computer into the snowy lawn in frustration with it being junk. I took him shopping with me and after some discussion with him and the Microcenter guy, I was able to convince him of most of the parts I had picked, some my friend swapped out for reasons I don't know why lol.I really love my Intel and Nvidia parts, but I decided to try AMD this time and almost got away with it till I found that 560. :P All he wanted to do was play World of Tanks without spending his bank account and this is (mostly) what came out of it. Enjoy! :)

Sorry about the lack of pictures, I forgot to take some. Ill have my friend take some today when he gets home.

Edit: For those concerned about the CPU Cooler, I will look into it.

Possible Cooler Upgrades: CRYORIG C7, CM TX3, CM Vortex Plus , Corsair H55

Update on approval for x4 860k and C7 Cooler.

Part Reviews

CPU

Works fine, runs sort of on the hot side idle around 50 degrees Celsius. Will be upgraded in the future to an x4 860k

CPU Cooler

Idk, I cant really tell if this is better then the stock cooler or not because I never tried it out with the stock cooler. 50 degrees Celsius idle, could be better.

Motherboard

Great build quality from MSI, and the BIOS is easy to use. I might overclock my friends CPU for him when he gets the x4 860k later on using the easy OC Genie.

Memory

8 GB of simple cheap RAM. Works as intended.

Storage

Stores all my friends stuff, exactly what he needed.

Video Card

Great little Card! Runs World of Tanks on medium settings at 1080p better then most other $60 cards. This card wouldve cost about $100-180 but we got a refub for $60 at Microcenter.

Case

This case is easy to work with. Has 2 HDD mounts and 2 SSD mounts, front is easy to pull off and there is a nice pop out in the back for some cable management including a large indention in the front right of the case on the back panel for the SSDs and maybe cables. Also comes with a nice window for the budget price. Would recommend.

Case Fan

These fans are great and look nice, a little loud though but that's alright as long as you're not mounting them as a Princess Leia wig to your head. :P

Comments Sorted by:

g7hsro 1 Build 4 points 36 months ago

860k is only 15-20 bucks more...

tomtomj2 submitter 9 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

Wasn't my money to spend, however he is slapping himself for it now. Ill get him to upgrade it in April when I upgrade.

ABundleOfBunnies 1 Build -1 points 36 months ago

dude no. dont upgrade something for only 20 bucks more. it would still cost 70. that is just a waste of money........ If u were actually somewhat a bit helpful to ur friend, you should have told him these exact words "Im more experienced and i know what is best for your system so please go with the Athlon X4 860K or the pentium G3258."

tomtomj2 submitter 9 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

Not trying to be rude... but Im just going to say that I told him multiple times this is what we were going to get, and he insisted to save the extra $20. I cant force him to buy what I tell him as its not my money, I will say that's the only thing I didn't agree on him buying.

Now he wants the 860k cause he realized it is worth the extra $20.

ABundleOfBunnies 1 Build 0 points 36 months ago

Lol XD you should have kept pecking. Thats what i did for my friends. He wanted a 400 dollar build with only a GTX 750 TI and i was like "BOY, YOU BETTER LISTEN TO ME. GET THE GTX 950 OR I WILL MURDER YOUUUU." lol srry for being weirrddd. Aslong as he is happy, its all good :)

tomtomj2 submitter 9 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

I should've, I know. However I would like to add that the 750 ti is a good GPU for $100 and compares quite well to a 950 thats $150.

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Gooberdad 10 Builds 2 points 36 months ago

More pictures please. Yeah I would redo your thermal paste and retry your tests.

tomtomj2 submitter 9 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

I will, it all depends on what my friend sends me when he gets home. I cant promise good pictures though but ill see what I can do ;)

Fasulos 7 Builds 2 points 33 months ago

This cracked me up - We all have that friend "some my friend swapped out for reasons I don't know why" good time to tell your friend "Bless your heart" cause you tried, lol.

Overall looks great for the price, But its a shame the A6 wont be able to tap into its 4x GPU cores for this configuration. I'm wondering how dual graphics (APU + GPU) would have stacked up if he'd gone with a R5 card @ the same price. Honestly could have still made the right call there.

tomtomj2 submitter 9 Builds 1 point 33 months ago

Thanks lol

Current update on this build, I think the GPU died, and the APU runs too hot on its own power with this crappy cooler.

Right now, I've got a spare Core i3-2120 I'm going to give him, and he going to buy an LGA 1155 motherboard and a R7 370.

addor 1 Build 1 point 36 months ago

Did you mean 50°c? I was told that you wanna watch that... (Serious question, I'm on my first build)

tomtomj2 submitter 9 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

Yes, I noticed that the CPU was running hot and it would jump up every 10 sec to 60 and slowly go back down to 50, he does not use the computer too often so I told him to spend the extra money in a couple of weeks when I go to upgrade my PC to get a better cooler.

addor 1 Build 1 point 36 months ago

I just built my first ever build over the weekend, and posted it. I put in 4 extra fans, plus the case fan already pre-installed cause i was nervous of heating

tomtomj2 submitter 9 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

I just looked at it. See the thing with Intel is that their chips don't run as hot as AMD, thats why I prefer them over AMD, however this build was to try out AMD as ive done far more with Intel then AMD.

ziggurat666 7 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

I'll betcha anything you have a bubble in the thermal paste, I have an OC'd X4 860K on a TX3 in the thermaltake V1 that runs at 32 idle, 62 loaded. Have seen bubble thermal cause horrible temps. Maybe clean and remount with some Arctic Silver or some mid end paste from that Micro Center. Or, maybe tone down the rear Exhaust as it could be starving that CPU cooler from any airflow. Odd but happens

tomtomj2 submitter 9 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

We were being idiots when trying to put the aftermarket cooler on because the screws were too small for the holes and it was sliding around while I was tightening the nuts. I guess that caused a bubble or something. Ill have to go over when he isnt busy and try again. He doesn't use it that much so we might be able to get way with it till he gets the x4 860k and a better cooler.

ziggurat666 7 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

If the load kicks too far over 80 you may be pooched, keep that in mind, the binning on the iGPU chips wasn't perfect from AMD, could cause over 90 degree spikes, plus try several different temp readers if possible, could be the FM2+ readout glitch

tomtomj2 submitter 9 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

Ok, thanks. Ill tell him to keep an eye on it.

He was playing World of Tanks with me the other day, and said it was running cool, ill make sure he doesn't turn his computer into a dutch oven, thanks. :)

Btw, that was my first time putting on an aftermarket CPU Cooler, most likely why its doing this, worst comes to worst, ill stick the stock cooler on and we'll pick up something better.

pwelch234 1 point 36 months ago

Shoulda gotten 212 evo?

tomtomj2 submitter 9 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

I don't think it would've fit in this microatx case, however, Ill tell my friend to give it a second thought next time we go to upgrade.

AxelitionPC 1 point 36 months ago

My corsiar 88r didnt come with pci-e screws and in the 88r manual said it wasnt supposed to come with any

How did you get those screws?

tomtomj2 submitter 9 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

Er... really? My guess from what I remembered is it either came with the case, we're using the wrong screws, or they came with the PCI parts. I do remember there being 4 of them.

AxelitionPC 1 point 36 months ago

i guess i will try the threading for some screws i have laying around thanks anyway though! Seriously though if you can check out the manual it doesn't say it comes with them

tomtomj2 submitter 9 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

Sorry, I don't have the manual on me, my friend I built it for has the PC and all the boxes with the manuals.

AxelitionPC 1 point 36 months ago

ok then thanks again

AxelitionPC 1 point 36 months ago

also good build

tomtomj2 submitter 9 Builds 1 point 34 months ago

I know this comment is old, but I remembered where those PCI-E screws came from now!

I was watching a video on how to install a Noctua cooler on an AMD board, and I saw the screws that I used! They are the ones for the stock CPU bracket on the motherboard, we took off the bracket to install the aftermarket cooler, and that's where the screws came from.

AxelitionPC 1 point 34 months ago

Oh that makes sense sadly i'm using a stock cooler although i'm switching cases soon anyway so it doesn't matter

49ers 1 point 36 months ago

It looks like a good budget build. You could use a few more pictures here.

tomtomj2 submitter 9 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

Pictures coming soon (I hope)

ABundleOfBunnies 1 Build 1 point 36 months ago

i recommend the C7. That cooler is aesthetically good looking and gives more performance than the hyper 212

tomtomj2 submitter 9 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

Alright, thanks :)

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tomtomj2 submitter 9 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

Well it doesn't have to be really low profile, it just cant be too tall, thanks for the suggestion though :)

ABundleOfBunnies 1 Build 1 point 36 months ago

yeah H7 is good too if u want more quiet performance. BTW the C7's height is much shorter but is much wider. Ur choice. I really cyroig since their colors and usually whit and black.

tomtomj2 submitter 9 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

I think Ill go with the H7 that you mention its width, If it's too wide it might not fit, thanks!

ABundleOfBunnies 1 Build 1 point 36 months ago

sorry for giving u wrong info. It is around the size of a intel stock cooler. the C7 is a perfect square measuring 97mm by 97mm and 47mm tall. the H7 is L98mm by W123mm by 145mm tall.

Soundwaves699 1 point 36 months ago

Can you post some benchmarks for some games. i only care about GTA v though

tomtomj2 submitter 9 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

My friend has this PC with him cause I build it for him, he only plays world of tanks and world of warships so I dont really have any benchmarks for it.

Soundwaves699 1 point 36 months ago

ok.

j.arnaldo23 1 point 35 months ago

Cool. +1 If you have the time to help out a fellow PC enthusiast... Did you have any trouble with the wireless network adapter? I ask because I have one of those Mobos lying around and I'm not sure if it would interfere with a gpu.

tomtomj2 submitter 9 Builds 2 points 35 months ago

The GPU we used is two slots and the wireless adapter is one slot, they fit in together fine, the wireless adapter however was blocking the gpu fan slightly but no big deal.

j.arnaldo23 1 point 35 months ago

Thanks. I'll look out for that. I'm kinda picky with temps.

tomtomj2 submitter 9 Builds 2 points 35 months ago

If your GPU has 2 fans it should be fine. This GPU only had one fan but the adaptor barely blocked it at all.

j.arnaldo23 1 point 35 months ago

Thanks a ton. That last comment really helped.

HallowRace 1 point 3 months ago

by now this build would be considered obsolete i think

tomtomj2 submitter 9 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

I mean it was obsolete the day I built it and that was two years ago lol...

HallowRace 1 point 3 months ago

oh, well then, um, ok i guess

tomtomj2 submitter 9 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

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