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ELIZABETH - Build One

by LegoPC

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77 Comments

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CPU Clock Rate

3.9GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

17.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

41.0° C

GPU Core Clock Rate

1.1GHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

1.35GHz

Description

I'll probably fill this in later with further detail because I feel kind of lazy right now. I was actually on a tight, tight budget to build this, and there's a good reason behind the selection of each part. I'm already anticipating someone saying that I should have chosen the 8350, 1600 memory and a 990 board, but as I said, I have reasoning behind my selections. Give me your feedback, I'm interested to know your thoughts. Also, some quick complaints. Cable management was probably the single most annoying thing about this build, everything else went smoothly. Oh, I just noticed those questions at the top. Well, the main purpose of this machine is gaming. I'll also run some more benchmarks and get some temp info when I edit this description.

Update: I decided to return the memory and pay a few extra dollars for a higher frequency, 1866. At first I was thinking 1600, but since I'm going through the trouble of making a return I need to justify it. Everything else is the same. If you read all the comments then you'll know I flipped the psu.

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miniclipgamer 2 Builds 6 points 55 months ago

Hmm... Flip your PSU so that it doesn't steal air from your GPU. When you do this, make sure to keep it off of the carpet.

:O Doggie!

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 5 points 55 months ago

That's a good idea, but I'm not looking forward to redoing the cables at all. I have wood floors, but It's very dusty at times, so I didn't want the PSU taking in dust filled air, which is why I chose that orientation. Suppose I could flip it and keep it on an elevated surface...

miniclipgamer 2 Builds 1 point 55 months ago

Get like a dust filter or something of that sorts, and since its semi - modular (shame its not fully), it shouldn't be that bad.

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 1 point 55 months ago

Yeah, if it was fully modular it would be a non issue. I remember seeing some magnetized dust filters from Silverstone, so thanks for the reminder on that. Do you think I'll get better temps from the change of orientation? I ran Kombuster for 15 minutes and I reached a max of 61 C on the GPU, and that's at the current clocks listed above.

miniclipgamer 2 Builds 1 point 55 months ago

You would probably see better temps on the GPU (actually, 61 C is kinda high especially for a card with 3 fans, so I hope you see better temps) because the GPU will have more physical air to blow past the heatsinks. Also, if you somehow manage to measure the difference of temp of the PSU, you would also probably see improved temps. I'm not quite sure that it's "magnetized", but it's probably negatively charged to attract positively charged dust particles.

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 1 point 55 months ago

I flipped the PSU. It was a whole lot easier than I expected mostly because it was semi-modular. I'm not expecting a huge difference in temperatures, possible a lower idle temp on my cpu. As for the gpu, the temps I'm getting before the flip are consistent with other owners of the card, save those who went with liquid cooling. If anything, this should prolong the life of the psu..knock on wood.

Fr33Th1nk3r 4 Builds 1 point 33 months ago

It's not really that big of deal Don't worry about it. Just follow what the manual says all of my PSU's look like yours.

talby 10 Builds 5 points 55 months ago

"Cable management was probably the single most annoying thing about this build"

I say that about every build :P

Great pics, the last one of your dog caught me by suprise, for some reason I said out loud "why the long face?"... Probably happens every time (s)he walks into a bar... c:

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 1 point 55 months ago

Haha!

ICONICx12 4 points 54 months ago

Love the Robo Raptor. I thought I was the only person who still had one. :)

18hockey 1 Build 3 points 54 months ago

I still have one! Got the remote and everything. Found it on a street corner, someone was throwing it away. As the expression goes, one man's trash is another man's treasure :D

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 2 points 54 months ago

I got the big one in the closet. I'll put mama raptor in my next build!

istealunderwear 9 Builds 2 points 55 months ago

Good cabling awesome 1000 USD build probably the best you can get for the money, Why 7950 over 7870 XT? I've heard it's pretty much the same if you're on 1080 unless you're gonna overclock the 7950 a lot. Or playing on 1440p

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 4 points 55 months ago

Well, I chose the 7950 because of better overclock ability and the extra gig of Vram. With mods on big open world games, that extra gig will certainly come in handy.

istealunderwear 9 Builds 1 point 55 months ago

Indeed, I just wanted to justify the why, But you did the right choose then!

Apach3 3 Builds 2 points 55 months ago

i really have nothing bad to say about an FX-8320 and a 970 motherboard. the FX-8320 is just a lower-binned version of the FX-8350, and are exactly the same minus some overclocking potential. from what i notice, the only difference between the 970 and the 990FX chipsets is just that the 990FX has more PCI-E lanes and maybe an internal USB 3.0 header included (someone correct me if i'm wrong). in my opinion, the 970 chipset is most ideal for people who only want to use a single graphics card, don't need a lot of motherboard features, and are on a decent budget.

still, i like this build, even if it isn't 100 percent ideal from general recommendations.

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 1 point 55 months ago

Thank you. You're mostly right with the 970FX chipset boards, but I can report that my board has an internal USB 3.0 header. You're description reflects my reason for choosing this board over the 990FX EVO by ASUS. I directed the cash I saved on various parts towards the GPU, and I think it payed off.

Apach3 3 Builds 1 point 55 months ago

very smart decision. you'll notice a greater performance increase with a better GPU than any better CPU.

Cometballer 1 Build 2 points 52 months ago

What's your take on 8320's, or AMD in general, gaming capability? Trying to decide between this, an 8350, or 3570k. Deciphering the benchmarks has given me mixed results.

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 4 points 52 months ago

I wrote this ridiculously long reply, but It became convoluted. Strictly in terms of gaming, between the 8320, 8350, and 3570k you'll net nearly identical frame rates and the differences between them will be imperceptible. You may find a slight gain in performance for CPU intensive games like Star Craft with an Intel chip, but again, the differences are negligible. As you may already know, your video card serves greater importance for in game performance.AMD is a magnificent choice all the way up to the 7950 as they outperform all of their Nvidia counterparts within the same price bracket. Simply put, if your greatest focus is gaming, go AMD. You'll save a significant amount of money and you'll get exceptional performance.

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 3 points 52 months ago

To add to my previous statement, the greatest part about AMD is their pricing. Because the money you save purchasing a 8320 or 8350 vs a 3570k or 4670k can be invested into the video card (the crux of any gaming build). That said, an AMD gaming build with a better video card will outperform the Intel gaming build regardless of which one has the better overall CPU. I hope this helps.

Cometballer 1 Build 3 points 52 months ago

Completely agree. I was really never interested in AMD's processors because, lets face it, we live in an Intel dominated CPU market and that's what we're spoon fed, or at least I was. I looked at an 8350 build compared to a 3570k build and I save $70-80 overall for the same performance plus fantastic workload with CPU intensive games/programs. The benchmarks and reviews I've seen all have mixed results and just leave me wondering if it really is worth it, and its seeming more and more like it is. Thanks for the thoughtful reply!

MyNameIsDerp 2 points 52 months ago

So... which part is in the last pic? I've never seen that before...

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 3 points 52 months ago

That's my external Saluki. I forgot to list her in the parts, but she serves as my general wellness coordinator and also maintains hair follicle distribution throughout the house.

swaggernaut 1 Build 2 points 50 months ago

cute dog dude

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 1 point 50 months ago

Thank you :D

josav09 1 Build 2 points 45 months ago

Sweet build!

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 1 point 44 months ago

Thank you!

kiunkadonk 1 point 55 months ago

Great build and nice cable work!

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 2 points 55 months ago

When I did the cable work it was probably 4 A.M. and I was dead tired. Given the case is dark and the overhead light wasn't providing much illumination inside the case, I'd say it was definitely a frustrating experience. Though, when I finished it was really satisfying sliding the cover back without any effort.

Indloon 1 Build 1 point 55 months ago

Nice build, gonna do something similar in next month! ;D

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 1 point 55 months ago

Appreciate it, I'll keep an eye out!

PickItApart 1 point 55 months ago

Excellent choice of case. It's known for good airflow due to good cable mgmt.

Why the Enermax cooler? I read it's not even as good as the cheaper Cooler Master 212 Plus. http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1280-page6.html

All in all,good build.

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 3 points 55 months ago

I didn't want the cooler shifting on top of the cpu. I mostly went with the reviews on Newegg, so I didn't see anything negative at the time. It's a little disappointing to hear the performance is less than the evo. If I could guess, I would say it's because the heatpipes, while direct contact, are separated by aluminum, so there are some gaps preventing a smooth spread of the Thermal paste. And hey, if anyone has this cooler, then could you tell me how much pressure you applied with the screws that sit atop the crossbar? That is probably my only issue with this cooler, there's no indication of when you should stop twisting those screws, so I just stopped when it provided a little resistance.

aragorn98 1 point 55 months ago

Nice cable management. Personally I would have gone with a Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo and some 1600MHz RAM but you could overclock it to this speed and above.

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 3 points 55 months ago

Originally, I was going to get the Hyper 212 Evo, but I noticed a lot of people saying they were able to shift the heatsink while it was secured to the motherboard. That is something I really didn't want. The Enermax cooler I chose has almost the same features, and it was only a few dollars more than the Evo. I also really like the aesthetics of the fan. As for the memory, is it possible to overclock it safely? To what speed would you expect I could overclock? I should also add that the fan is very quit, which is a definite plus!

aragorn98 1 point 55 months ago

Fair enough with the cooler. Overclocking RAM is incredibly safe. Jumping from 1333MHz to 1600MHz or even 1866MHz is fine especially in a well-ventilated case (which you have). Only once you start getting above 2133MHz does it start to become detrimental to lifespan of the memory. However this is improving, especially with recent releases such as Corsair Vengeance Extreme which is at 3000MHz, however this speed will not have an impact in a gaming enviroment. In case you don't know how to overclock your RAM it will be in your bios.

smokerising 1 point 45 months ago

Why 1600 ram? Is 1866MHz not faster? I'm new to building PC's

nsyedhasan 1 point 55 months ago

Great build and value.

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 1 point 55 months ago

Thanks, man.

miniclipgamer 2 Builds 1 point 55 months ago

Okay, can someone convince me to buy this case rather than the R4? I'm torn.

dtmhnl 1 point 55 months ago

In my opinion, it looks better, more room behing the motherboard tray, raised feet, made of durable materials, you get the idea.

miniclipgamer 2 Builds 1 point 55 months ago

I'm aware that they both have those... I do like the looks of the phantom, but it has a tiny *** window and I like to admire my work.

Indloon 1 Build 1 point 55 months ago

R4 is quiet, looks solid, feels solid and has a lot of room!

TestBuilds 1 point 55 months ago

Very nice, and I agree, 8320 is the better buy. You can overclock it within 100 Mhz of the 8350 with the same voltage. Excellent cable management as well.

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 1 point 55 months ago

Thanks! Budget dictated that selection. I used the cash I saved and applied it to the cost of the aftermarket cooler.

BiGUNMAN 1 Build 1 point 55 months ago

You could've got 1600 ram with better cas for 51$

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 1 point 55 months ago

Link me.

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 1 point 55 months ago

Nice, I saw some Crucial Tracers @ 1866 on sale at Newegg at one point, under 60, but I didn't have the cash at the time. I purchased my memory from Amazon because I was using giftcard cash I had left over. Had I had a few more bucks I could have purchased the higher frequency 1600 HyperX Genesis. Too bad :/

Eredicate 1 point 55 months ago

How's that case. I'm familiar with the Phantom series but not the 410.

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 1 point 55 months ago

Very spacious and well constructed. You can feel the heft and quality of the side panels as well as the chassis when you're handling them. The paint appears to be of an automotive quality, and the mesh on the top and front is satisfyingly thick. The middle hard drive cage is removable and all of the slots use an easy snap on bracket system. The stock fans are actually of a decent quality and push a respectable amount of air in my experience. As someone mentioned, the ventilation is fantastic, and there is room for a slew of extra fans. The fans can connect to the fan controller by being plugged into one of the many four pin connectors behind the motherboard tray. Though, I did notice that the 410 has a single fan controller for all of the fans, so you can't adjust individual fan speed, which kind of sucks. Believe it or not, there's room for a liquid cooling rad on top, not sure of dimension right now. With all this said, there are some downfalls, only two things really. The grommets are worthless, they fall out place when you shift the cables, so I don't bother adjusting them until I'm done with the routing. The last issue is the door which covers the front drive bays. The door is incredibly stiff, nothing smooth about the action, you'll need to give it a firm push to open and firm push to close. All things considered, I would love to do another build with this case. Check review sites, nearly everyone that uses the 410 will report satisfaction, there's a reason it's such a popular case!

Eredicate 1 point 55 months ago

Thanks

whopperjr92 1 point 55 months ago

Seasonic is a great psu maker but you could have saved some money on that psu. Also you can get 1600 ram for that price. Also you could have gotten a cheaper 1tb WD hard drive for about $65 and saved a little on the case and then got the 8350. Great build though. As your first upgrade put a ssd in this build when you can

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 1 point 55 months ago

I chose that particular PSU because as you said, Seasonic is a great psu manufacturer, it was semi-modular, and highly rated. I saw various psus at different points, XFX ( rebranded Seasonic ), Corsair, and I almost went for an Antec Basiq, but the Seasonic sold me on it's features with continually positive ratings. With the HDD, as I understand it the black drives have the highest failure rate, but even with that knowledge I opted for it because of the cache size and a five year warranty. The case in amazing, aesthetically, functionally, and is feature packed. I don't think I could have chosen a different case.

Ggadget 1 point 55 months ago

What's with the dinosaur?

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 1 point 55 months ago

It's a Robo Raptor.

Suren 1 Build 1 point 53 months ago

Nice Build ... Do Your ballistics light up?....Love your Dog and super awesome ROBO Raptor

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 1 point 53 months ago

Thank you! Oh yeah, I'd take a pic of them, but the camera isn't so fantastic in low light. There's software that Crucial provides and you can change the intensity, as well as the pattern. Right now I have it on a stereo effect that correlates to the sounds from whatever you're doing. Pretty awesome for the price I paid!

bombbird101 1 point 52 months ago

Does Windows 7 work ok with the AMD FX-8320? I heard Win 7 had some problems with the FX-8150.

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 1 point 52 months ago

I have had zero issues with compatibility with windows 7.

RealComputerBuilder 1 point 49 months ago

Do you know how it runs Windows 8?

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 2 points 49 months ago

Sorry I don't, loaded it with Windows 7 Pro. But the motherboard was marketed as Windows 8 ready if I remember correctly.

RealComputerBuilder 2 points 49 months ago

Ok, thanks for the reply. I just checked the board and you're right it is Windows 8 ready. :)

tshombe123 1 Build 1 point 51 months ago

Nice build! Does the motherboard come with sound?

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 1 point 51 months ago

It sure does :D

tshombe123 1 Build 1 point 51 months ago

So i don't need to buy any speakers?

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 1 point 51 months ago

Well you need speakers, but you don't need a sound card. The sound card is integrated into the motherboard. It's sort of like how an MP3 player needs headphones so you can hear the audio.

tshombe123 1 Build 2 points 51 months ago

Oh. Thanks for the info! I can't wait until i build it bye the end of the month _^

Kitma 1 point 41 months ago

Oh! That's the case I want! clicks. Very nice, lots a of pictures. scrolls to comments Doggie!?! What doggie? flips through pictures again Still no doggie. Sad face.

On a different note, nice build. Like how you matched all the parts colour wise.

Fr33Th1nk3r 4 Builds 1 point 33 months ago

Good job. +1

With the recent price drops of the r9 series, I'd look into getting a r9 290 and OCing

Divdor 1 Build 0 points 55 months ago

Everything looks good, but the RAM is a tad slow. That would be the only thing I would change. Nice cable management!

LegoPC submitter 1 Build 1 point 55 months ago

Thank you! Looking back, with some better timing of the purchase I probably could have snagged some 1600 for nearly the same price. But the past is behind me, and it's a burdening decision that will hopefully fade with time...

DjArtifact -1 points 55 months ago

The ram speed shouldn't affect gaming performance, but it will slow him down if he is rendering or something like that.

RealComputerBuilder 1 point 49 months ago

Yes, or so I have heard. You also need at lest 8GB(16GB is better but at a price) for video editing or rendering. So 8GB is fine at 1866(maybe 1600) for rendering but if you are doing it as a job not a hobby you would want like 16GB @ 2133 or something similar.

This is what I have heard from a lot of professionals like Tek Syndicate etc. But a quick Google search wouldn't hurt! Hope its helpful! :)

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LegoPC submitter 1 Build 1 point 55 months ago

Thank you!