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I was very tired of gaming on an old laptop, so I decided to make a budget build. This is my first build ever, it went well but there were some issues that I will list below. I’m having a baby in a few months so budget has been priority.

I'm sure the first comments will be that the Ryzen 7 2700X is overpowered, and yes it is I know. But it was at a price low point and only $40 more than a Ryzen 5 2600. I also liked the RGB stock cooler, so I said why not. Shortly after I purchased it, it jumped up to $240 so I think it was a good buy. Also, I know the graphics card is an older model and will definitely bottleneck. I’m ok with this, it’s a budget build and I’m not a graphics snob.

Idle CPU Temp: 46-53C Stress Test w/ CPU-Z CPU Temp: 79C Borderlands 'Badass'(highest) Graphics Benchmark: 34-39FPS, GPU Temp: 74C, CPU Temp:61C

Things I might do differently next time: -I should have researched the M.2 SSD a bit more, I missed out on the faster read/write speeds of NVMe, but those are also more expensive. -I should have researched the RGB connections better, there’s a 4 pin 12V and a 3pin 5V addressable. When ordering my mobo, I did not know the difference. 4pin 12V is a single color per fan that can change to other colors, 3pin 5V has more of a rainbow effect where individual LEDs can be changed in a single fan, it is a much better looking option and has more versatility in my opinion. My CPU cooler fan is currently addressable because I hooked it up through a USB port.

Mistakes: -Forgot to put the I/O shield on before plugging in everything to mobo, this was fun: I successfully unscrewed the mobo screws with everything attached, and there was enough slack so I could move the mobo a few cm to put in the I/O shield. There were some little metal pieces on the shield that seemed like they were supposed to go on the outside of the I/O panel USB ports and LAN cable jack but they accidentally went inside, I noticed it later so I bent them outwards and I’ll just cut them off at some point.

Still figuring out: - The stock clock of the Ryzen 7 2700X should be 3.7GHz, but I'm getting a max clock of 4.3GHz. I never touched any overclocking in the BIOS, maybe I clicked 'yes' to some of the suggestion boxes that popped up on the mobo and graphics management software, but never did I see anything about overclocking. My cores bounce between I've been reading that these values are pretty normal, my power consumption is normal as far as I've read - I don't have the values in front of me right now though. - Looking into overclocking my GPU, it’s definitely the limiting factor on this build and I knew it would be, but I’m getting 35 FPS on the highest settings of “Badass” Benchmark on Borderlands 3 so I’m not really overly worried about it. I think I was getting around 70 FPS on high and 90-100 on medium.

To do/add-ons: - Second hard drive: I think I’m going to go with the hybrid option since I already have a SSD as my boot disk, I’ll keep the games I play most often on that for the faster load times, but keep everything else on two mirrored 2TB 7200 RPM HDD disks. I’m about to have a baby so it’ll be nice to have the security of the mirrored disks in case one of them goes out. - At some point I will get a key for windows 10, I’ve heard that you can go to companies that sell overstocked keys for $30. All in all, I think it was a very successful first build, no major mistakes occurred and I was surprised at how easy it all went together.

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  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

Also have a similar setup for my first build. I went with the 3600 over the 2700x after much debate but went with the rx 570 as well.

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/qm4qqs .

The rx 570 is a great card, and the 2700x is a great chip. The CPU will be better at preparing frames for the GPU in our case and will maximize the potential of our respective 570s! (At least that's how I view it :p , don't take any of what I say as truth). Of course I plan on doing more CPU bound work than GPU bound work. I didn't really need a rx570 at all!

Great job looks nice!

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

I have a similar setup with a 2700x + GTX 1070 https://pcpartpicker.com/user/CravinR1/builds/#view=PLzYcf

I have the MSI B450M Gaming Plus and it defaults to PBO AUTO (AMD auto overclock based on temperature).

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Is PBO AUTO safe overclocking? I hadn't intended to overclock this CPU and I want to make sure I get the same longevity out of it that I would if it wasn't overclocked. From what I've read is there are two things that kill CPUs, high temps and high voltage. I'm pretty good as far as I can tell with temps, should I use software to decrease the voltage going to the CPU?

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

I didn't like PBO so turned it off

PBO on in cinebench r20 was getting 3950-4000mhz, 4003 points, 1.5v (added a 0.125v offset to make it 1.38) with temps 77 cel with the wraith prism on high fan speed.

PBO off in R20 3900 mhz, 1.15v with the -0.125 offset and Max of 65 cel with the prism on low fan speed.

I suggest manual oc or PBO off. I use my system as a 24/7 Plex/media server and game on it so prefer the lower volts and temps

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Great build! But I have some opinion if you dont mind:

For a "budget" setup (I guess the correct terms are "value oriented"?), $40 difference are quite significant and as you said 2700x are overkill for just gaming. Also if you opt'd for 2600 or even 1600 if that is even cheaper, I'm sure you will do fine with cheaper b450 mobo preferably mATX so you can also get cheaper, smaller case.

From all that you can actually save around $60 or more, which again are pretty significant considering the total price of the setup

Cheers!

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Thank you for your input.

The tipping point on the CPU was definitely the RBG stock cooler, I felt the cooler upgrade was almost worth the $40 extra, the RGB is neat, but the greater cooling capacity is important as well. I did some research on the Wraith coolers that AMD has stock with their Ryzens and I felt that if I would buy one with the lesser coolers then I would be tempted to opt for an after marker cooler upgrade, adding to the overall price. For some reason, the 2600 and 1600 were both the same price at the time, even right now the 1600 is only $5 less than the 2600.

I had actually started this build with a mATX board and a mini tower with a smaller budget in mind, but my friend that has built a few PCs suggested that I go to a mid tower and ATX board to increase my possibilities for future expansion as well as airflow in the case. I agree that it significantly increased the cost of the build though.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

What you are seeing with the CPU clock is normal, and in fact I suspect you have a pretty good sample. With Ryzen, AMD has been pushing the clock-boost envelope to more sophisticated boosts, and the 2700X was the best of the Zen+ generation.

Mirroring is a good idea but don't forget to do backups. Mirrored drives only protect against drive failure, not OS failure or user failure (rm -rf * ...).

Did you have any trouble getting the memory to run at 3000 MT/s?

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for the tip on the hard drive backups, would you suggest using an external HDD to back up on rather than mirroring?

As far as the memory speed, that was the first thing I did after installing the OS, I don't remember it being any trouble at all. I believe it was just one setting in the BIOS that I set the RAM speed to 3000. The mobo does list 3000 as one of the compatible speeds. For some reason it did seem to increase the RPM of the CPU fan when I did this, I also remember some setting being automatically turned on after changing the speed, it may have been A-XMP or DDR4 Boost, but I was playing with those settings at the time as well so I'm not real sure, I will check when I get the chance.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Mirroring vs backup isn't a cut and dried call since they address somewhat different situations. Since you're in a budget situation, I think my choice would be backups, if you can arrange for them to happen often enough. I buy relatively inexpensive portable USB drives and replace them every 9-12 months, full or not. I'm not sure what you would need in order to do effective Windows backups; I have a script that does my linux machines, and on the Macs there is the built in Time Machine that backs up changed files hourly (you can tune that).

If you can manage both mirroring and regular backups, that's the more ideal setup, but it does cost an extra drive plus the mirroring setup.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Those temp on coy are a bit high maybe try a better air cooler or 240 aio water cooler