Description

Why: Chicken… Egg… Cardinal… Fett…

I took a friend to a Fry's Electronics in the beginning of February so he could buy a GPU. That’s when I realized how bad the Crypto GPU problem truly was. In Fry's they have two very loooong aisles of cards and they were completely empty except for one MSI 1080 TI. Oddly this is when I decided I would build my first PC. For years and years, I would buy a prebuilt from Newegg or Best Buy and then swap out parts to make a better gaming machine. I was done with that. I was going to build my own rig from scratch, with everything I wanted and buy my Graphics card last in the hopes the demand would be down and in turn, so would the price.

I spent the next 3 months going over the parts I wanted. Even buying and returning my CPU twice (more on that later). My brother-in-law Michael changed my whole mind set when he once said "Looks like your making this rig Future Proof!". That’s when I decided I would do my best to actually make it future proof for at least a couple years and sought to buy every part I wanted and never settle, no matter how long it took me to do so. And thus, came the birth of "Cardinal Fett" (my brother-in-law being the mother, it’s a GOT thing).

I took my sweet time and did my homework. Due to my crazy busy schedule, I was able to spend my lunch and what little free time I had reading, watching, researching, everything I could. It helped that the Fantasy Football season was over and this filled the void nicely. Lots of research and help with questions, especially from JUKEFACTORY. This guy's build is more of a shrine and he was very helpful in answering a bunch of my questions that I had about our case, the Corsair Crystal 570X among other things. I knew I was going to get it but I wanted it to be last or second to last depending on the GPU situation. I needed to know a lot about it before I made certain decisions and purchases. Big shout out to him.

Quick note: I was taking pictures during the build and you'll find a link to that gallery at the end of this build description

The Build: We'll start from the End.

The GPU: How you can learn from your “Enemy”

This is actually pretty funny. I had gotten a slightly used EVGA 1080 FTW Gaming card early on (surprisingly). Put it in my old rig and it played great considering it was on an AMD A8 w/ 16g DDR3. I'd got such a deal on it during the crypto craze and before the Future Proof decision. Now I knew only a TI would suffice, so I sold the 1080 on offer up to a gamer to help out the community. Now I was searching OfferUp, Facebook, etc... Looking for the best deal on a 1080 TI unopened, in box, SEALED.

Not settling for anything less than the Asus 1080 TI 11GB STRIX GAMING OC Edition. I finally found one and talked the guy down from $1,100 to $900. This is in March/April and was a steal as the going rate was $1,399, IF, you could find one (The OC edition was a big-ticket item in the crytpo world and was snatched up at the beginning of the hype). I'm an IT Manager and was going to be working really late on the project we were on. He said no problem, he's currently working night shifts and could meet after midnight.

Midnight rolls by, I pull out the $900 but hear nothing from him. By 2am I'm pissed, I’m about to just buy one of the deals I'd been looking at for an hour on eBay, even though it will cost me more. He finally hits me up at 2:40 saying that something came up at work but he's free now if I'm still interested. Of course, I instantly decompress and we set to meet at a Wal-Mart at 3:00 am. Some 20-year-old kid in a Subaru is messing with a Pepsi machine and I'm wondering if this idiot is the guy, so I text the OfferUp guy named Wayne, that I'm here and in the only car in the actual parking lot. He says he'll be there in 10 min, in a white Tahoe. While I get this text, a cop shows up and I'm wondering if he's here to grab the Pepsi kid but he parks behind me blocking me, I get out with my phone to show him the app is why I’m here, got nothing to do with Pepsi Kid. He says "Hi, I'm Wayne on OfferUp with your video card, I just don’t tell people what I do haha" LOL.

Wayne The OfferUp Cop was also big on the crypto craze right before it hit and gave me some priceless insight into that world and why he was selling me and others, all his extra unopened cards that once had a plan. He told me about his Six, 10 Card a piece Rigs (and how incredibly hot his home is). I realized Nvidia, Asus, Evga, etc., probably thought this was a cash cow, until the warranty replacement orders started coming in. You see, all his crypto rigs run nonstop while overclocked to the limit within warranty and he can get a new one when it burns out. He said "I kid you not, Not ONE ASUS regular 1080 or TI has burnt out on me. Evga I've had only one go, but Zotac I've sent several back for new ones. BUT, the Zotac 1070’s are unstoppable" Good to know for anyone having trouble choosing which company to go with. Next time you talk to a crypto, ask him his preference.

The CPU: Patience is Power…. Fo real doe.

I purchased the i5-8600k under the premise that it was cheaper, could OC to match i7’s and that I would get the Kraken x52 and OC that chip FO-EVA. Then I read articles and watched a lot of videos with comparisons of the i7-8700k and took back the i5. Then decided I wanted it... then LOL, it was future proof time. i7-8700k is a nasty beast who wants to play hard. Especially when overclocked by even just 30%. I currently run 5ghz and play Far Cry 5 and PUBG with EVERYTHING on ultra and it is an ABSOLUTE beauty. I literally have had Far Cry 5 going, Alt Tab out to look up some maps on chrome that already has 13 tabs w/ lofi hip hop on YouTube playing and downloading another game I bought, and then a video conversion JUST to see if I could. I will then see 62c, but she likes it hot. I highly recommend creating your own custom profile in the CAM software to get better cooling results from the pump and rad. A friend asked me "Why are you putting the gaming part here with the CPU and not in the Graphics Cards section?" I explained, “You have to have an equally strong CPU to match your GPU.”

MOBO, Memory, and Fans: oh my! ….. and the wonder that is the m.2

I originally was determined to get the ROG STRIX Z370E until “Future Proof”, and the i7 was in motion. So, the ROG MAXIMUS X HERO (WiFi) was an easy purchase. The RAM, I was back and forth between Corsair's Vengeance RGB and G.Skill TridentZ RGB. Aesthetically I wanted to match some corsair together but in march they didn't have these new Vengeance RGB, they had the mostly covered version which I didn't like and G.Skill works with ASUS AURA which of course is my MOBO & GPU. Performance, I knew I was going with 32gb to have double what games require at max.. for now, (and I wanted all the slots filled on the board. Turns out, that's overkill).

When it came down to the fans, I knew the case provided great ventilation already and the CPU had the Kraken, so pressure and temp were no longer a concern. I looked at the Riing fans to go with the AURA as they are in my opinion the best AURA compatible RGB fans. However, The Corsair LL's series... GOOD GOD. When I was done building and turned the computer on for the first time... I probably had the same face when I was 10, opening my SNES w/ SFII. Just pure bliss. I actually have a video, maybe I'll put it on YouTube.

Speaking of YouTube. What I already do have on there is a video of the one problem with my rig. The LL Fans. After almost any boot from Sleep, restart, etc... They flicker Little Seizures style, like they are about to go out. It's bad. It's gotten a bit better in the sense that I have a copy of the install app on my HDD so when that happens I can open it and it has a repair option with the uninstall, and the repair works and doesn’t take too long. It’s really Corsairs only response that I have seen ANYWHERE. It's very inconvenient, yes. You get used to it, but you can't show the rig to someone off a fresh boot. Might be an emergency medical situation. Other than that, they are beautiful and sync great with my Corsair RGB Strafe. So much so that I almost bought the Corsair M65 but I am just ridiculously happy with the Logitech Proteus, which I had already purchased early on in the build.

I bought the Samsung 960 EVO 250gb when it was on sale. Then came “FutureProof” and I took it back. Shortly thereafter, PcPartPicker alerted me that the 500gb version was very much on sale. Good looking out! This thing is lightning fast. I have a lot of big apps and games on here but still have 255gb’s left thanks to the 500gb “Future Proof” and the alert. P.S. Still lightning quick, especially for DIVX conversions and other video editing ridiculousness.

Case, JMMODS, and Solid Rings:

I knew I wanted a case with a Glass side panel, maybe even with a quick release handle, but when I first saw the Corsair Crystal 570x, I was done. Literally, I never looked for a case for myself after that. It’s amazing looking, its presentation is what helps give the extra awe in people's face when they first see my rig. Jukefactory recommended the solid ring RGB's. They work perfectly with this case. It gives the impression that there is light coming from the PSU. The second is perfect for whatever you decide to showcase inside as there is plenty of room to do so. Last and certainly not least, he also introduced me to JMMODS. That is where I got my one of a kind custom RGB GPU Support Bracket. I'll be getting more as there is more work to be done (read below).

More Work: As mentioned above.

As much as I love "Cardinal Fett", alas, there is work to be done. I could absolutely do a better job on the cable management. I cannot stress enough how important this is. Yes, I dread hours, truly it will be hours, of getting it in better order, but it’s a part of the experience and its just damn necessary sir! I've mostly waited (or excused) the holdup because of the cable sleeves and I am also trying to thoroughly decide on the colors and who to go through. I'm pretty sure black and red will be the route, as it fits both the Cardinals Scheme and Boba Fett's. I just can’t stop really wanting red and white as I feel it would look much cleaner. I'll also be getting a GPU backplate from JMMODS when I come up with something unique that I'll love. Along with the cable management, there will be HDD Covers from JMMODS and a side shroud cover from Corsair (4 dollars for the shroud, yet 15 for shipping… really?).

For anyone interested in the Gallery for the step by step pictures I took during my build: https://imgur.com/a/j2fa7Pj

Check back later, might have made my mind up, installed, and added the pictures. The collection of pictures so far, is from the original build and a few improvements/completions I HAVE gotten to. I Hope this was insightful and helpful in any way to people as I know I used PcPartPicker religiously when researching/reading about and looking at other people's builds. Not to mention of course this list and making up my mind with specs, comparisons, price drop charts, Email alerts, etc... Thanks for checking it out & leave Feedback and Questions below!

Comments

  • 15 months ago
  • 3 points

I really like your build. I'm looking at a lot of the same parts for mine. You've definitely taken your time and build a solid pc.

How has the Kraken x52 worked for your overclocked i7-8700k? Is it loud? Did you replace the fans on the radiator? I'm building a gaming/plex server in an NZXT H440 and I'm deciding between the kraken x52 and x62. The probablem is the x62 will block drive bays. What are your thoughts?

Matt

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks Matt, I appreciate that.

The x52 has done a pretty good job cooling for what I have going on. Noise level, Silent. Maybe it's due to my replacing the NZXT AER stock fans with the LL's, but I can't be sure.

I also had trouble deciding between the x52 and x62. My research told me, the bigger the radiator the better job it will do cooling. However the x62 is problematic in my Corsair Case since I wanted to top mount it only.

My thoughts would be the same in your Case (pun semi intended), If it will block your drive bays then go with the x52 as it does a fine job and you won't settle on functionality.

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

Would you recommend the X52 or H100i V2 for the 8700k?

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Yo PC_BaSsEtT,

Depends on what your budget and wants are. Do you want the best cooling solution with best price per budget and how's your set up aesthetically?

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Looking for the best cooling really, I do like the RGB on the X52 as well... I have heard many complaints about the X52 though, saying they are not reliable. That’s what’s putting me off...

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

GOOGLE SPOILER ALERT

I'm not about to tell you anything you probably haven't read about. I was thrown towards the x52 as the temp difference was minimal but it looked MUCH better. Yes i paid about $40 bucks more for it vs the Corsair but when I look over and see it... Worth it... When ppl come over and see it or see pics... Worth it... It does the job and it looks fantastic.

I was also worried for a bit about the pump failure issues but that seemed to be happening a year ago. If you dig deep, you'll notice a favorable ratio of those complaint dates being further out vs recent.

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

Great description and beautiful build +1

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks CooproxXo1. I'm glad it was worth the time to write.

As I mentioned in it, I was reading other ppl's descriptions all over to get the best possible conclusion for my rig to help with my ideas.

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

Amazing build especially with the custom gpu bracket! How much did it cost and how long did it take to ship? Im considering to get one for my own PC that I would build this summer.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks Aventer!

All said and done, it was $37.49. Ordered it on 5/11, had it on 5/14 which is through USPS over a weekend AND holiday (Moms Count!). Was pretty impressed with the speed and turn out of the bracket, hence why I keep singing they're praises.

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

I'm gonna have to look into that bracket. I have a custom one that I built myself but this one looks really clean.

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/YP7WGX

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Deffinetly fits your build man, looks great!

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

I looked through my emails as I knew it was fast... It shipped the same day!

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

Brilliant! They make beautiful mods I will also contact them when I am ready to build my PC.

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

Any problems getting the RAM to fit with the X52? I am going with the same MOB, RAM, and CPU Cooler as you. Very nice build!

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey jwilliscraft,

Nope. It all fit perfect. I was worried at first but it fit with out a single issue. You mentioned going with the same MOBO, RAM and Cooler... I researched this for my case ahead of time.

The one issue I'd be worried about is the dimensions for the case your looking at. Which case are you going with?

  • 15 months ago
  • 2 points

I'm actually going with the 570X as well. I think my build will be almost identical, except for the graphics card and I'll probably stick with the SP120 fans throughout.

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Very nice and excellent choice. Why the SP120's and which video card are you lookin at?

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

Very cool story of how this came to be, especially acquiring the GPU haha. Aside from that, I can see why you said your story is similar to mine.

With cable management, it was a pain but like what you said, its part of the experience! If you haven't already done so with redoing the cables with the sleeves, plan your cable management out in layers. Hopefully this helps if you already didn't think of it. Mostly the motherboard and GPU cables first, storage cables, and then case fan cables last since they are everywhere and are also the smallest.

I have a picture of the back of my PC in my completed build gallery if you want to get an idea. The Corsair Commander Pro fan controller might be a bit different from your build but definitely manage the metal tunnel in the back of the PC as it holds most of the guts.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks dshadow82!!

Yeah, big fan of your build, was fun to read you description and find the comparison (aside, as you mentioned, from The Offer Up COP lol). The GPU was worth it and the story!

That is a fantastic idea. Yeah, I hadn't laid it out that much in my head yet but wow, I already feel a great relief in that idea.

Definitely doing it that way, Thanks again for the tip!

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

Very Nice!!! I love me some Offer Up! I do all my Offer Up and Craigslist deals at the lobby of my local Police Department. Weeds out the scammers and keeps both parties safe.

+1

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah, that's not a bad idea at all!

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

What kind of boot time are you seeing? From a cold off. Pressing the power button and then time it until Windows desktop pops up. I was worried that having the same motherboard and the same 960 EVO ssd I was not getting proper boot speeds, but I believe that our MOBOs just have so many bells and whistles that it takes a little bit longer to boot. I am very curious

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey ZudzGuy,

23 seconds is my cold boot to windows. It was faster when I first put her together but I believe it has to do with many games and software being installed on the 960 and my 3TB HDD being pretty filled up.

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

do you believe that when you first put her together it was somewhere around 18 seconds?

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

That sounds close. I of course now wish I had timed it when she was first running before I overwhelmed her games and apps.

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Sorry to bother you again. Would you just be able to inform me of your "Last BIOS time" in task manager under startup?

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

it says 18.3 , I'm glad you asked and I looked. Brought a big smile to my face lol

  • 13 months ago
  • 2 points

I'm so glad I checked the pictures. I'm planning a build in this case, and I think I learned a lot just seeing how you dealt with all the pieces. Thanks!

  • 13 months ago
  • 2 points

I'm glad it helped. A guy did it on his feature before my build and I found it extremely helpful as we had a lot of similar parts. Here is a link to his: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/7XMZxr

Thanks again and happy building!

  • 12 months ago
  • 2 points

I have the same cooler and mobo, how did you fit the x52 radiator with fans up top without hitting the heatsink? There isn’t enough room when I try

  • 12 months ago
  • 1 point

I had zero issues from the go, I have a gallery of photos I took through out the whole build. The link is right before the comments but I'll paste it in here for you as well. https://imgur.com/a/j2fa7Pj

My first question has to be, which case did you go with? You said same cooler and mobo, but not the case. The dimensions of your case could be the issue.

  • 8 months ago
  • 2 points

if I was able to like this more than once, then I would. +2

  • 6 months ago
  • 2 points

Looks great. This is so similar to the build I would like to do. My concern was the clearance bewtween the mobo, ram, and x52 cooler mounted on top. I am going with the XI hero and don't know whether the tube will block ram slots, and whether the cooler on top will hit the RAM sticks. Do you know if the X and XI are any different in terms of size and placement of the RAM and CPU slots? I would hope since you had no issue on your X that it should be the same with XI but can't find anywhere to confirm.

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

I would look up and compare the specs. I'm not seeing any issues but that's with a quick glance. I can tell you I had ZERO issues with my setup. Happy Building!!

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

kinda looks like a **** lmao

  • 15 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks csc2,

I built it like a rorschach test so... I feel like I know more about you than you do.

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Curious as to why you went with a 1080p 60hz monitor, I saw the 60 hz first and thought for 4k but then saw the resolution, so now I'm just curious, what do you know that I dont lol

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Nope, but I did know that it was on sale for $205 and that it will become my secondary screen after I buy a 144 hz :) After dropping over 3K I just needed a bit of chill time as the games still look fantastic!

  • 13 months ago
  • 2 points

Ahh I see I was like man all that money and THAT MONITOR but yea makes sense, I upgraded my monitor and gpu before everything else , and today I'll finish the new build, but I did mine in steps too

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

LOL, yeah it was one of those "I can't pass this up" deals and I knew I was going to dual it up for twitch at some point and convinced my self "It'll be the secondary monitor".

Nice on your new build, it's a blast! Make sure to post a link in here so we can all see it when its runnin bro!

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

How do I post

  • 13 months ago
  • 1 point

Go to see all completed builds at the top.

Then select Create a completed build.