Description

Hi Guys Dragoon20005 here,

before I talk about the build here

Disclamer for this build log:

(For anyone who thinks that I am stupid to waste money on this project should leave this tread now. (yes I am talking to you))

Also the PSU is already what i have, and no I didn't buy it. I won it from a contest

here is the proof

https://www.facebook.com/asus.sg/photos/a.123814264319257.12245.103663889667628/721623284538349/?type=1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/asus.sg/photos/a.123814264319257.12245.103663889667628/755997631100914/?type=1&theater

Prices were in Singapore dollars converted to USD so yes the prices are higher than US prices.

This build was inspired by the Scrapyard Wars PC first battle on the LinusTechTips forum.

the original build was here

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/VjQV3C

the reason for the rebuild was the PSU finally gave up on me and the casing was in bad shape after so many years with rust and unable to fit long GPUs. So yea the reason for the new casing

My buddy donated his HD6850 1GB to me as he has no use of it ever since he upgraded at a Skylake iTX system which could not fit the GPU. So that's how i got it for free :)

It was the same person who donated the Gigabyte mobo and 8GB DDR2 RAM that i am using now.

Before anyone say "you dumbass, the Pentium G3258 will be way better!"

As mentioned in the disclaimer, please leave this topic unless you want me to report you.

This whole build took me the whole afternoon and evening to complete.

one thing I loving this build is now I could test the system in 3DMark Firestrike which needed a DX11 GPU.

The original 8600GT was a DX10 card which only has 512MB of DDR2 RAM and had a non-working DVI port. So it could not run 3DMark Firestrike.

Also when I did a Cinebench R15 test with the CPU, even at stock clocks of 2.93GHz. It beats the Intel i5 Core 3317U. Not sure if this is legit or not but I will take it. :]

But this build is not all smooth sailing

first the case is a a** to work with!!!

no kidding!

Even with a full modular PSU, cable management for this Enermax Fulmo Q casing is non-existent.

took me an hour to fix the bloody cables and it still look messy. As you see my finger.

The rear hardly have any gaps to stuff the cables and it took a lot of effort to even cover the side panels.

Second was the GPU mounting is not perfectly aligned. With the GPU installed, will still droop slightly and need to be fixed using more screws than expected to make sure that the GPU will not droop.

Mounting the drive was also a pain as they have to be mounted the other way and it was a tight fit to even slot the HDDs into place. No HDD drive caddys to speak of.

Note to self: Never cheap out on casing ever!!!

The casing only comes with a 120mm casing fan at the back and it hardly move any air when powered on.

So to improve airflow, I swapped and added the 120mm Coolermaster casing fan from my old casing into the new case so there is a front intake fan and the rear exhaust fan.

As the system is always in my room, I can't run LAN cable from the router which is in the living room to my room.

I went to invest in the Intel AC wireless adapter which is the best adapter in the market and has a decent antenna to receive the signals as compared to others which are only sticking out the back of the PC.

Yes I know the PSU is overkill for this system, as mentioned in the disclaimer. I already got the PSU which I won in a contest and it is pointless to keep it as it is already collecting dust since 2014 in my storage.

Some of you may ask where did the R9 270X go which was in the Asus Facebook contest?

Sadly that GPU was sold away, as I was jobless one time for 6 months without money for food. So i have to sell it off or get hungry :(

After completed the build in the evening, I installed Windows 8.1 and all the drivers for the system and downloaded and install 3DMark and Cinebench to test the performance of the system at stock.

I did try to do some OC but when I got it to 3.7GHz, it failed to boot. I tried 3.33GHz, and the GPU/AMD drivers keep crashing. Even 3.2GHz gives me a weird issue where the PC refuse to shut down.

So now it still back at 2.93GHz until i find a way to OC the CPU.

the QX6800 is an unlocked CPU where the multiplier can be turn up or down, unlike Q6600 which need to OC using FSB. If any kind souls could help. I will be glad.

The other two HDDs you see are IDE or PATA 133 HDDs which are still working to this day and CrystalDiskInfo shows them in healthy status.

The reason for the Hybrid Seagate HDD is because I still need storage but need to boot to the OS faster so the 8GB cache on the hybrid drive is better.

The Toshiba hybrid drive which was used in the previous build got bad sectors and needed RMA but due to work, I have yet to make a trip down to file a RMA for it. :(

It currently using the Intel stock cooler but it has a copper center which help maintain the temps on this 130W CPU. I may go for a CoolerMaster 212X Hyper, but not after changing the casing first.

Here is the part reviews

CPU: Hey this CPU would cost 1000 dollars back where it was the king of CPU. Similar to the Q6600 which many swore by as the gaming CPU. This is an unlocked CPU meaning the multiplier is unlocked just like the Intel K series.

MOTHERBOARD: It was a donated piece from my buddy, this mobo will cost easily hundreds of dollars as it is a P45 series motherboard which support OC and many fancy features like Firewire, RAID, etc. Holding up well even to this day. VRMs and northbridge are warm but not as hot because i am running stock FSB on the CPU.

CPU Cooler: the cooler is now upgraded to a CoolerMaster 212X Hyper and now temps is only 60+ degrees at load. As compared to the stock 80 degrees.

GPU: It was a donated item as well from my buddy. He was upgrading to Skylake iTX and it cant fit the GPU. So i got it for free to upgrade from my Geforce 8600GT :)

RAM: A mixture of Geil and Kingston DDR2 800MHz kits and strangely they work fine

HDD: Seagate Hybrid drive allows WIndows 8.1 to boot faster while retaining the 1TB capacity. IDE based 60GB from Maxtor(owned by Seagate now) and WD 250GB.

PSU: I won this PSU from the Asus contest and yes it overkill for this build but hey it a free PSU and it has been in storage since 2014. Either store it and let it rot or use it.

CASE: Note to self: never buy this casing or cheap out on casing ever! poor cable management layout and no space to hid the cables. What a mess! and that using 1.5 hours trying to fix it.

PERIPHERALS: Microsoft X6 Sidewinder keyboard was my first ever gaming keyboard but its a membrane type keyboard and it does not support 4 key strokes. But at least it good to type on and silent. Mouse has since been swapped to Logitech G502 as the Lasermouse 6000 don't support a lot of features for Mechwarrior Online.

MONITOR: I got two 4:3 ratio monitors, one is a HP 20" with 1600x1200 res and the Philips is a 19" with 1280x1024 res. Not exactly idea for gaming but most of my old school games don't support widescreen.

WIFI: Intel has the best Wifi card period.

DVD-Writer: HP 18x DVD Writer for those pesky game discs.

Extra Notes: This PC has been with me for a lot time

it has since evolved from a Core 2 Duo to a Core 2 Extreme and now with a half decent GPU

I may evolve this system more or prob will retire it when I get a brand new system.

At least for now I get to play shooter games on this PC :)

Thanks for reading :)

Regards Dragoon20005

Part Reviews

CPU

Hey this CPU would cost 1000 dollars back where it was the king of CPU. Similar to the Q6600 which many swore by as the gaming CPU. This is an unlocked CPU meaning the multiplier is unlocked just like the Intel K series.

Storage

after so many years

it still alive and healthy!

Storage

Seagate Hybrid drive allows WIndows 8.1 to boot faster while retaining the 1TB capacity.

Video Card

It was a donated item as well from my buddy. He was upgrading to Skylake iTX and it cant fit the GPU. So i got it for free to upgrade from my Geforce 8600GT :)

Run Firestrike 3DMark

Power Supply

I won this PSU from the Asus contest and yes it overkill for this build but hey it a free PSU and it has been in storage since 2014. Either store it and let it rot or use it.

Optical Drive

HP 18x DVD Writer for those pesky game discs.

Operating System

Used all version of Windows

this is still OK for me

Wireless Network Adapter

Intel has the best Wifi card period

Comments

  • 49 months ago
  • 3 points

I always love old builds! I hope one day to do one myself. Really like ur build. I would reccomendend a new cooler if you are trying to oc tho.

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

temps wasn't high as i would expect

the highest i ever saw was 70 degrees on one core

the stock cooler is holding up

yes I do want to invest in a new cooler but this case is not that forgiving

there is no space for the cables and the depth isn't idea for the tower coolers

I still figuring out what the GPU is crapping on me when all I did was bump up the CPU clock by 233MHz

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

Aren't the cpu and gpu strapped so if you raise the frequency on the cpu it also tries to do the same to the gpu and the ram as well?

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

i was only touching the multiplier on the CPU

note that this is sort of the K series of recent Intel i Core CPUs

yes if i were to touch the FSB

the RAM and PCI-E will crap out on me

but it weird it happening even with multiplier modifying

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

Hmm. Well it's old and needs a little massaging to get working right. I mean may have to mess with the volts a little.

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

You know that does seem weird now that I thought about it. You should easily be getting that cpu to 3.3ghz. Wouldn't that one go to 4.0 with the right settings and cooling? Man that was expensive in its day too.

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks i will but it will be in a bigger casing. This casing has no room for a tower cooler like the CM 212 Evo/plus or the 212X

  • 49 months ago
  • 2 points

Sweetness. Keeping an old dog in the hunt. Way to go +1 on your build.

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

thanks

I still confused as how this Quad core could still be viable for recent games

I mean the 3Dmark score isn't that bad as I expected

will prob throw in Mechwarrior Online and see how it performs.

No Crysis 3

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  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

I see if i can get the game for cheap

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

i have since updated the build and added a better CPU cooler

the stock cooler is not holding up as I expected. Hit temps up to 80 degrees which is the TJMax.

with the new 212X Hyper i getting 60+ tops

  • 49 months ago
  • 2 points

Might want to clean up the cables a bit but otherwisr nice build. I like seeing old hardware once in a while. +1

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

I tried but this case is an a** to work with. Never cheap out on cases.

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

I love the overkill psu, I don't what it is but I just find it funny that you are using such a overkill psu with that hardware.

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

I already have the psu. Read the description

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

I read the description before I posted that.

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

This is pretty cool. I just inherited a small form factor PC and it's upgrade path is the core 2 quad q9650, and that is something I'm thinking about doing.

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

HP SFF pc? Those prob support DDR3. but not sure if they support 4 or 8GB sticks. If you install the GTX750Ti with some modifying and psu upgrade. You got a cheap gaming rig.

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

I really am thinking about doing this in the future. Right now, I'm waiting on the last of the parts for my first build to come in this week, before I can even think of tinkering with the SFF.

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice is it a skylake build? I will suggest grabbing the cpu first for your lga775 build. They are hard to find when you really need them. Luck was with me when i found this gem among the sea of used cpus at the store. This cpu will cost as much as a X99 cpu now during its time.

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes, it's a Skylake build. I'll reveal more when I get all the parts in, which will be later this week.

As for the C2Quad, it's going to be a backburner project. I have access to a GT210 and installed it just to see what would happen and it works fine. The system only has 2GB RAM so that is an obvious change, along with the 160GB 5400rpm drive. I just did a basic search and saw that my options are limited as power supplies go so it might be worth it to move them into a new case. All stuff to think about. :-P

  • 49 months ago
  • 2 points

well you could always ghetto mod the PSU

will be funny to see an external PSU

Silverstone have SFX PSU which are 400-500 watts range

should be plenty for the Q9650 rigs

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  • 49 months ago
  • 2 points

read the description

I already got the PSU!

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  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

Well try to get more pics of the full setup. Most of the parts were hand me downs and parts bought long ago. I'm using 4:3 ratio monitors. 19 and 20 inches respectively. This build started life as a core 2 duo. Then it evolved into the Core 2 Extreme cpu. Now finally the gpu and psu upgrade. Reminds me of pokemon evolution.

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  • 38 months ago
  • 1 point

thanks for the kind word here.

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