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Fahrenheit Phoenix

by bvroc

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56 Comments

Details

Date Published

May 14, 2018

Date Built

May 5, 2018

CPU Clock Rate

3.7 GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

33.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

82.0° C

GPU Core Clock Rate

1.411 GHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

8 GHz

GPU Temperature While Idle

30.0° C

GPU Temperature Under Load

75.0° C

Description

This is ultimately meant to be used as a ... Hackintosh. The only hardware change necessary was to pull out the Asus WiFi / BT card and replace it with a Dell DW1560.

Some gaming might be had, but it's meant for doing actual work mostly. That includes large Photoshop documents, InDesign layouts and 50+ open tabs in 2 -3 browsers all the time. Web design and development work, advertising, instructional video taking and editing and working on several client jobs simultaneously.

That doesn't mean it can't look good while working, eh?

This case is difficult to build in well, because there's very little room to maneuver. That's the reason I opted to use an SFX power supply, as that gained a bunch of room for the water cooling, wiring, and GPU. Fan wiring is run under the motherboard, back panel I/O sneaks in over the top

The machine runs 5Ghz OC no problem, Aida 64 doesn't take it down with full FPU, GPU, CPU, and Memory being stressed.

The air flow is difficult to manage in this case, believe me. It's set up to run top to bottom, and go jump in a lake if you'd like to say that it won't work ok that way. :-) Real world says otherwise, so calm down, you're probably wrong about other stuff in your life too. Two 120mm intake (which has a case filter), through the top 240 rad which does not fight the intakes on the GPU. Bottom 120's and rear 140 are set as exhaust in order to create high pull-through and also keeps warmer power supply exhaust out. And those do not have a case filter.

Geekbench Score

Very pleased with the thermal and compute performance so far.

Bare Clover with specific kexts and config used for Hackintosh set up.

BTW - The "Fahrenheit" moniker is homage the the limited edition 2007 VW Fahrenheit GTI which came in Magma Orange (we have one, and now orange-all-the-things when we can).

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JCMsergox 4 Builds 32 points 10 months ago

A build called farenheit with a Celsius cooler..

bvroc submitter 1 Build 8 points 10 months ago

Ok - that’s funny. Thanks for pointing that out!

JCMsergox 4 Builds 2 points 10 months ago

Just something I noticed. Congratulations on the feature!

calebdude1 1 point 10 months ago

;)

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Aerospace12 2 Builds 6 points 10 months ago

This is sick

+1

Mnpctech MNPCTECH 4 Builds 4 points 10 months ago

Great build!

gosubuilder 3 points 10 months ago

i know the actual color scheme is orange and black. but in that first pic it looks like yellow and black which also looks fantastic.

over all i love how stylish this whole build is, just outstanding.

64gb of ram... wow, I am jealous... :)

bvroc submitter 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

Thanks for that, the case looks all easy and super roomy - it isn't. It's very cramped in many places for wiring, components, and the cooling is quite challenging and can leave you with sorta a best of the "none-of-these-are-very-good" kind of choice on how to do it.

The yellow comes in from the camera somewhat, and the orange LEDs did run slightly bright. I've already tuned them down a bit more towards orange by dropping them from 12v to 7v by rewiring the power tap.

customgtp 23 Builds 2 points 10 months ago

Nice original use of color scheme! +1

customgtp 23 Builds 1 point 10 months ago

P. S. I'd make pic 3 your first pic to draw more viewers to your build not pic one which is pic of the boxs your equipment came in... Just an observation

bvroc submitter 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

Rearranged - thanks!

squidamint 2 points 10 months ago

8700K Hackintosh -- mmmm yesssss very tasty!!

[ My Mac Pro is giving your rig an uncomfortable sideways glance... ]

BTW, if you have time please I'm interested to know if your RAM hit 14-14-14-34 out of the box after enabling XMP?

bvroc submitter 1 Build 2 points 10 months ago

Thanks, heh!

It's quite a fast Mac - er - Hackintosh for sure. Check that Geekbench out?

Anyway, fairly certain the timing on the ram under XMP - no other fiddling around - was 15-15-15-36 while the indicated spec was originally 16-16-16-38 - so, not too bad.

I ran an 18 hour memtest86, windows memtest, and OS X Techtool Pro 9 memory test on it with zero errors. That seems like happy ram to me, and I don't think I'll push it any harder.

I think it's somewhat difficult for even a good consumer board and PSU like these to keep power levels and hotter timing on 64GB all ok.

squidamint 2 points 10 months ago

Yes, you've definitely built a speedy ride for macOS. I'm thinking to go that route before my cheesegrater decides it's had enough.

Thanks for the RAM info. I'm in the final stages of a Ryzen 2700X build incorporating Ripjaws V 2x16 F4-3200C14D-32GVK. Out of the box it's giving 3200 15-15-15-36 so, all things being unequal, sounds like mine is in the right ballpark.

Happy RAM, lol -- do NOT aggravate the Happy RAM !!

BitBoilOfficial 2 points 10 months ago

that case looks like a g5

SavageVector 1 Build 2 points 10 months ago

My first thought when I saw this build was "Where did someone even find a baby G5 to paint orange?"

Gooberdad 10 Builds 2 points 10 months ago

This looks great.

Thumbs up and congrats on the featured spot.

bvroc submitter 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

Thanks, appreciate the +.

pocketknife316 1 Build 2 points 6 months ago

Dang, bro. Nice sexy build. I love orange builds.

antonjetpack 1 point 10 months ago

lol i did not think asus made 24.1 inch monitors. congrats on featured!

bvroc submitter 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

16:10 at that! And thanks, super nice to be featured.

Apielo 1 point 10 months ago

used a picture of this for a school project +1

bvroc submitter 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

Hope that your project does well, thanks!

Samuel_Gadient 1 point 10 months ago

eriffas

bvroc submitter 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

?huh ,taerg era sdraob detrevnI

three8one 4 Builds 1 point 10 months ago

Volkswagen f*** yeah!!! Post pics of your Fahrenheit!!!

three8one 4 Builds 2 points 10 months ago

My current Golf here & here and my previous CC here!

three8one 4 Builds 1 point 10 months ago

Great build by the way! :D

bvroc submitter 1 Build 2 points 10 months ago

Hey thanks, and nice Golf too.

This is what has brought so much orange into our life: Fahrenheit

three8one 4 Builds 1 point 10 months ago

"Sorry, this content isn't available at the moment The link you followed may have expired, or the Page may only be visible to an audience that you aren't in."

I think your photo is private... :(

I don't understand why Volkswagen stopped doing limited special editions of the GTI after the Fahrenheit... :/

bvroc submitter 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

You are unfortunately correct. How about this

sponix 6 Builds 1 point 10 months ago

Solid hardware choices. Makes me almost one to build one.

Thanks for sharing !!

bvroc submitter 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

Oh, you probably should then - and thanks!

ImperiousBattlestar 1 point 10 months ago

Can’t get enough orange builds on here, man! Great job! +1 :)

bvroc submitter 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

Thanks! Orange all the things!

OscarGolf 1 point 10 months ago

did you delid the processor?

bvroc submitter 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

Yes. Used the Rockit 88 kit. Makes a heck of a noise when the goo breaks away while cranking down the break-away bolt. Liquid metal FTW. :)

diabolicflame93 4 Builds 1 point 10 months ago

Nice build, you did good to get your computer looking good in a tight case. Also, it's nice to see a computer without a 1070 or 1080 ti gpu get picked for a feature.

bvroc submitter 1 Build 2 points 10 months ago

Thanks very much. Mac OSX shakes hands with AMD cards more easily then Nvidia. The aim for this rig was client projects, not gaming so it totally works well. My other hackintosh build runs with an Nvidia - I'll post that one some time probably..

diabolicflame93 4 Builds 1 point 10 months ago

I'll have to watch for it :)

DrFresh2k 1 point 10 months ago

Why'd you choose the Samsung PM961 instead of an EVO or a PRO NVME Drive?

bvroc submitter 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

Good question. It came down to perceived performance vs pricing. The PM961 was an eBay purchase for about $330. On Mac OSX, using Black Magic diskspeed testing I got 1755 MB/sec write and 2712 MB/sec read. Windows is on the Crucial SSD and can't see the NVME disk to run Crystal Disk Mark or anything because it's formatted HSFS with OSX ...

A 900 series EVO or PRO would likely perform even better, but at these speeds for single threaded workflows already, we might not notice it. So it was a decision to save about $250 - $300 at the time. Would spending about 40 - 50% more have given us 40%+ increased performance - pretty sure that's no. Would have a warranty though...

AceFan84 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

Hey nice build! I'm thinking of doing an orange & black theme myself and have been looking at these same fans. Do they really look yellowish like in your first pic or is that just a misleading picture? I don't want to have to mess with anything to get fans that look orange, just want it like that out of the box.

bvroc submitter 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

Thanks, and a good question too. I had the same inclination regarding getting things orange, as this was going to primarily be running OSX and there wouldn't be an easy way to control any RGB, so things had to be set out of the box color-wise.

They completely look orange. There's a set of orangey(?) LEDs in a strip below the front lower edge, they cast a bit more towards the yellow end then I'd really prefer. See that pic through the top with the 2 120mm fans? Very orange.

One thing you should know about the single color Thermaltake Riing fans though, is that they are not PWM, DC only. I think because they expect you to plug them into one of their fan controllers.

AceFan84 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

Yeah not being PWM is kind of an issue for me, it's making me look at other fans besides these as well for my upcoming build. How's the noise on these? Are you running the LNC cables to keep them at 1000 RPM?

bvroc submitter 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

I was able to use DC mode speed control for the 3 exhaust fans via the ASUS bios, as the board has plenty of fan headers which will run PWM or DC mode.

The Fractal S24 AIO has a fan controller of sorts built in, so eventually I switched the 2 intake fans over to that and used the LNC cables to keep them spinning slower then the AIO "brick" wanted to run them.

The whole design was geared towards running the minimum fan speeds necessary to keep the CPU and GPU from throttling under heavy load while keeping things as quiet as possible. As I said, cooling this thing was difficult while holding down the fan noise.

The air flow runs counter to the way people normally would think to do it, but it does meet our goals of good OC, no thermal throttling, and minimal noise under load while taking advantage of case features (fan filters) and GPU position (flowing air into it, not away from it).

AceFan84 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

Yeah I also would like to keep noise down as much as I can. How is the noise level on your build when the fans are running at high load levels? My current build sounds like a jet engine so I’m looking for a little more peace and quiet this time lol.

bvroc submitter 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

The Riing fans are pretty low RPM fans at max to being with. When things ramp up, it's more whooshy then tornado. Hard to describe sounds in words. I capped the 3 exhaust fans at 90% using the BIOS, and the 2 upper intakes are using the inline resisters to slow them down, as they're being run through the Fractal AIO fan hub.

It all can get hot when pushed for a long period of time, but no throttling and "least" amount of noise - which is what I wanted to achieve. Could be cooler if I uncorked the fans a bit more, but it'll rarely get pushed that hard (synthetic bench) for that long when used for reals. Sounds like that would work for you too?

SonsBlud 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

This build is sick bro, the pics are great. Two thumbs up!

bvroc submitter 1 Build 1 point 10 months ago

Thanks! It's going to be a fast and fun machine for years of use I think.

pantman 1 Build 1 point 9 months ago

I thought you could change the Sapphire Logo's color in the TRIXX software, is this not true? Or did you not want the card logo to be orange as well?

bvroc submitter 1 Build 2 points 9 months ago

You sure can change the Sapphire logo color using the Trixx software, I even played around with it to see how it worked. (It seemed ok). However, the color setting and over-clocks do not stick around across reboots w/o reloading the software in the background and the main OS the machine will run is MacOS.

TBH, the blue worked out reasonably well because the exterior power and HD activity lights are the same color blue

Luciditi 1 point 2 months ago

You should upgrade to an RX 590

bvroc submitter 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

Sapphire is my preferred AMD non-Vega GPU vendor, and right now they only have the RX590 in that bright ... blue. Which is visually jarring at best? IMO, the 580 -> 590 is probably too little of a change to warrant an update. I did just get a Red Dragon Vega 56 though for another build, we'll see how that runs. I think this particular system will probably wait for Navi maybe before it gets better graphics.

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