Description

I build this PC as a replacement for my old X99 system now that we have hexacore processors on the mainstream platform.

CPU at 4.2GHz @ 1.17V
GPU OC to 2.0GHz
RAM OC to 3.2GHz (rated at 3GHz)

Idling around 42°C and 84°C at full load (stress-testing); steady around 70°C while gaming.

While the Node 202 is much smaller than my old EVOLV ATX case; it delivers the same performance, though it is quite a bit louder...

Firestrike: https://www.3dmark.com/fs/13965783
Cinebench: 1393 pts

Packs quite a punch at the footprint of an original Xbox One!

Part Reviews

CPU

A really solid processor! Beats or at least ties with my OC i7-6800K (4.4GHz) and fits in a Node 202! (mITX)

CPU Cooler

It's having a hard time cooling my i7-8700 but that's somewhat expected... the backplate was somewhat hard to fit in the Node 202, but did fit in the end...

Motherboard

If it was about $50 less It'd be a good buy, but Coffee Lake (Z370) boards are for some strange reason about that much more expensive than the (same?) Z270 counterpart...

Memory

While 8GB is on the verge to a bare minimum today, the memory itself is really high quality as to be expected from Corsair. Had no problems running them at even higher frequencies than they're rated for.

Storage

Probably the best SSD money can buy (on a budget)

Storage

Salvaged from a Seagate Expansion Portable HDD, works like a charm!

Video Card

Cheapest 1080 I could find, not performing like my EVGA FTW 1080 but really close! (2000MHz vs 2113MHz on the core)

Case

Somewhat hard to work with, but that's to be expected when building SFF...

Power Supply

Doesn't get very hot, which is nice in the Node 202 enclosure... It should also be at peak performance (efficiency) at load with my i7-8700 + GTX 1080 Build.

Operating System

Microsofts best OS to date

Monitor

I had some ghosting problems in the beginning, but it seems to have been a bad DP cable. A very solid monitor for productivity and gaming, though I'd recommend higher refresh rate over 4K if only for the latter.

Keyboard

Fun concept, but not very practical in action. Though a great feeling keyboard with some advanced functionality, with even more to come!

Mouse

Probably the best feeling mouse I've ever tried, I rarely use more than 5-6 buttons; but the ergonomics are (for me) on point.

Comments

  • 25 months ago
  • 3 points

Any pictures of the internals after assembly was finished? Would be interested in seeing the cable management.

  • 25 months ago
  • 1 point

Pretty slick tower, would also love to see the guts. How was it routing the cables in there?

  • 25 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks! Was pretty warts to route, though SATA and USB cables was wayy to long for this build! I'll update with more pics once the sun comes up once again :)

  • 25 months ago
  • 1 point

It's on my to-do list, though it was to dark last night when it was finalized :)

  • 25 months ago
  • 1 point

I have now added a few pics of the cable-mess ;)

  • 25 months ago
  • 2 points

thank you for a size comparison to a console. wish more people did this.

  • 25 months ago
  • 1 point

How are the temps on the 1080?

  • 25 months ago
  • 1 point

Around 50C idle and reaches 86C with GPU boost 3.0 (resulting in 2GHz on the core instead of the advertised 1.8); just about what you'd expect from a tower build.
Edit: ambient around 22C

  • 25 months ago
  • 1 point

Somehow the processor seem to stay at 4.3GHz no matter what I do; at least it's not trotting...

What do you mean? What do you expect it to do? And what did you do?

  • 25 months ago
  • 1 point

Usually Intel's speed step technology kicks in which keeps the processor at lower frequencies when not utilized; it's a bit unnecessary running at 4.3GHz when browsing the web, don't you think?

  • 25 months ago
  • 1 point

If you changed the BIOS settings, Speed Step might not be available. Try loading the BIOS defaults and see if that restores base frequency when the turbo is not needed.

  • 25 months ago
  • 1 point

Makes no difference unfortunately, the multiplier is set to auto and the only thing I changed was the voltage and memory speed...

  • 25 months ago
  • 1 point

So do not set the voltage for the CPU. Load the defaults and give it a try. Speed Step will be enabled.

  • 25 months ago
  • 1 point

Thats not an option unfortunately as it thermal throttled when the voltage is at 1.38...
Guess I'll keep it at constant 5.3 then, thanks!

  • 25 months ago
  • 1 point

Reset all UEFI settings to default values, cores still stuck at 4.3GHz but with a voltage of 1.42...

  • 25 months ago
  • 1 point

Found speed step in UEFI in a sub-sub-menu... But it some how does the opposite, I stay at 3.2GHz while under heavy load; temperatures never rise above 80C.

Probably gonna chance the ratio to 42 @ 1.13V and keep Speed Step disabled

  • 25 months ago
  • 1 point

If you have high performance on windows power options, the clock speed will not go down, so use "balance".

  • 25 months ago
  • 1 point

No matter what profile; it won't throttle down...
Even modified the min/max ratios but still nothing.

  • 25 months ago
  • 1 point

what about Multi-core enhancement? It might because it too, disable it.

  • 25 months ago
  • 1 point

First thing I disabled since my cooling capacity is limited... Everything's pretty much stock, I only changed memory frequency and CPU voltage.

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  • 25 months ago
  • 1 point

hi nice build in such a small case im looking to get the same motherboard and cpu cooler. for my build im working on getting. jut wondering about the ram, can two normal size ram sticks e.g. corsair rgb sticks fit or will the cooler get in the way of one of the slots. many thanks

  • 25 months ago
  • 2 points

It's going to be a tight fit (as it is with mITX) but there should be no compatibility issues, you'd probably have less than 2mm between; so routing the fan cable through there might be problematic...

Cryorig's site: "The CRYORIG C7 has a specifically designed width and length that safely complies with the CPU Keep Out Zone . The C7 is a guaranteed fit, with no RAM or PCI-E card interference period."

  • 25 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm not sure about this but I thought the 8700 wasn't overclockable - you need the 8700K for that. Perhaps that's why it's running at 4.3GHz all the time.

  • 25 months ago
  • 1 point

That’s correct; the 8700K is not overclockable but it boosts up to 4.6GHz (1c) and drops to 3.2GHz when not stressed. Even lower if intel speedstep technology is enabled

  • 25 months ago
  • 1 point

The 8700K definitely IS overclockable. Your 8700 isn't.

  • 25 months ago
  • 1 point

Sorry about the confusion, that K wasn't supposed to be there... Everything else in my post, however, is relevant.

I guess that's what I get for using autocorrect on my phone...

  • 23 months ago
  • 1 point

Hello krille.

I have this mobo and cpu also, only difference is that I use noctua nh-l9i cooler. I have a question for you.

Wich settings have you used to hold temps down (bios/windows)?

I have disabled MCE and enabled XMP for my ram to run full speed. Everything else is set to auto. My idle is fine, but with load is often around 80c.

  • 23 months ago
  • 1 point

Hi,
first of all; make sure that your UEFI is up to date, and not affected by the early LLC bug.

I’ve gone down from stock (4.3GHz @ 1.28V) to 4.2GHz @ 1.17V.
I went as far down as 1.13V for a while, but it got unstable with some CPU intensive applications...

That 0.11V (0.1GHz) difference brought my temps from high 80’s to low 70’s as well as my fan speed from 100% to 80% at full-load.

So I’d check and monitor core-voltage, mine went as high as 1.4V while using Auto; which resulted in thermal throttling...

Though your CPU is rated to run at 100°C max; so you should be fine at 80°C as log as it’s stable and you’re happy with the acoustics.

  • 23 months ago
  • 1 point

Okay, so no special settings in the bios?
Im at the newest bios version, so everything is fine regarding that.

The cpu runs fine and everything works and reacts as it should. I was just hoping that you might have fiddlet with some power settings and maybe got it running cooler :) I think it's sad that a non k model is cooking more than even the cooler they throw in the box can't handle.

  • 23 months ago
  • 1 point

Nothing other than fine tuning the CPU core-voltage to be as low as possible.
The included cooler is fine as long as you’ve got sufficient airflow, which you don’t get with a compact mITX case like the Node 202...

A few years back I ran the 2500K with stock cooler at 4.2GHz without any thermal issues.
But that was in a large Corsair Obsidian 650D with a 200mm fan plus a few 120’s...

  • 23 months ago
  • 1 point

Did the fine tuning of you voltage even help anything temp wise? I can only make an offset - 0.070 volt, more than that it won't be stable. But I see no difference in temps after setting that.

I know about the itx cases, it's crazy how hot they get, and specially with these newer Intel chips

  • 23 months ago
  • 1 point

As I previously said; I got about 10°C lower temps from lowering voltage .11V and clock .1GHz