Tell me what you think.:)
Everyone goes nuts on here when it's not a platinum PSU, lol. OP already stated he's swapping it out and he is knowledgeable. If anyone bothered to look at the images or read what he has posted the PSU can't power the GPU so that APU is a very smart temporary solution. Now he doesn't have to go to a CPU until the 880k is released and still has (basically) the 860k with medium grade graphics to tide over in between. Good job OP on your rig your way.
Thank you for your reasonable commentary. A breath of fresh air.
Thx bro, ill post upgraded pics this friday. Tune in if you want. :)
Well, it seems people have some different opinions on what to upgrade so I'll give my two cents.
-8Gb of RAM is fine, that should be an upgrade at your own will.
-To upgrade your CPU to a whole new level of performance, odds are a new motherboard AND CPU upgrade will be required seeing how FM2+ socket isn't the biggest powerhouse ever created.
-Consider a budget SSD (60-90 USD for 120-240Gb) it's a huge performance booster when it comes to the actual feel of the OS, at least in my opinion.
-GPU is great for 1080p!
-Lastly consider a more reputable PSU, but this seems to be doing the trick for now.
Those were just my suggestions, if you need help I'm sure the community is willing to provide insight much like mine.
WELL built sir! +1
Thx, man really appreciate the suggestions, Ill look through it .
My case! Nice rig though, I don't know about that power supply.
Ya I'm about to switch it to a cosair, cuz it doesn't vsuppirt the pny gtx 760's 6 pin pci express port.(that psu only has 4 pin connector
Why an APU with a 760?
thats what ive been arguing. Should i just go for a gpu that supports dual grapics, or should i use the gtx 760 a friend is giving me for a good price.
If you see yourself ever becoming an enthusiast beyond just this build, always get a decent card for yourself but if someone offers you something that will work at a very good price, never give up that opportunity. A GPU that is anything above "just ok" will keep its value for a long time even if its repurposed into a different build or used to take the place of a better card when its time to sell your old rig.
THX, but do think I should go dual graphics with a cheaper GPU or just buy the pny gtx 760 to add on with the apu. Because as you may already know the apu built in gpu will turn off and it will work as a normal cpu. In other words, is it better to go dual graphics (with lower end GPU) then go full GPU (with gtx 760)
Was wondering the same thing unless you plan on running them in conjunction it can be done but why not a more powerful CPU if your going dedicated GPU.
Was think same, I might end up going CPU; if the apu and added GPU doent work out.
still nice job hope it serve you well
maybe a 650w
If you get a 650W model from Corsair, don't go for CX series, they aren't the very best, atleast for your rig and are non-modular.
EVGA also offers some amazing PSU's like their B2/G2 series PSU's, if you want to look into that.
I sure will look into it tonight, thx on the advice for the corsair now i would know what look for.
My PC build is finished (well almost), I changed the sucky 650W PSU everyone was talking about to a 600W Corsair (feeling happy) and I added my new graphics card (gtx 760 that has custom cooler system), check out my newer pics towards the end u will see everything installed. Right now im planning on adding a water cooling system and switching the APU out for a actual CPU. By the way i will be selling the 650W PSU for any of you who think u can use it for a build (its new; i only used it for about 15 days). I will also be selling my APU for lower price once i get my CPU (its a $125 APU, now consider the second strongest APU out there now since the 7890k came out last month; but ill sell this for a low price of $95). You wont find it anywhere else that price, even with discount sell.
Are you keeping the same motherboard or switching to Intel? If keeping the motherboard go with the X4 880k that just came out. Really though the APU you have now is about just as good as the 880k CPU. You don't have to change out APU for CPU just because you have a graphics card. Take a look here at this comparison your APU is very close in performance with a graphics card: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/72286-amd-athlon-x4-880k-review-9.html
My APU is said to be compared to the i3 when being used as a CPU. When i run higher end games my fans speed and APU gets louder. I dont know if its because my APU is struggling as a CPU or if I just need to add a all-in-one water cooler to get the fans and APU to run in stable speed.
The stock AMD heat sink and fan isn't very good. It doesn't cool that well and is loud. You can go with water cooling but a cheaper alternative is a good air heat sink and fan. Here is a good one: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cryorig-cpu-cooler-h7
This will cool much better and quieter. Should make a big difference for the money. Water cooling will be even better if you want to spend more.
Needs more deditated WAM
But he has the weccomended amount.....
I was thinking about adding one More 8gb but I think one will do well for me right now. Thx
8gb is more then enough for the foreseeable future. I would not upgrade the RAM right now epically since you are using a dedicated GPU.
I will think about adding another 8g when i scale up on higher demanding games. But, one will do for now
Nice build, I really enjoy the choice of that case.
Nice build. I love the case I use it in my rig as well. +1
The case is amazing for just $50 cant beat that.
Nice build, but I think you should get a better PSU.
Im on it; cuz its already giving problems.
Also, I think you should get an Athlon X4 860K instead of the A10-7870.
I will look at stat, thx for the comment
X4 860K < A10 7870K
If you already have the 7870k don't degrade to an 860k :)
why the a10?
I picked the a-10 because i was on a low budget at the time, and because i heard good reviews about it running and gaming okay with out a GPU. ( but I chose it mainly because of budget)
makes sense man. I asked only because my brother as an a4 and it is terrible lol. Nice build tho
looks okay, but I would have gone with an i3 6100 because you have the GTX 760. Also, get rid of the time bomb of a PSU, it WILL EXPLODE. Get something from seasonic or antec, or EVGA B2, GQ G2 or GS. FSP's Hydro G series is also a good choice. Never cheap out on the power supply, it is the one component that can kill your entire computer.
So true. this is a 650w psu that was $30 bucks; that alone should have raised red flags. Right now i get blue screen of death randomly when i do heavy downloading or gaming, and i think the psu is causing this. Aslo im aware that this brand makes grey box psu (after i bought it)( another flag); so ever since I got it I purposely haven't ran a intense game yet until i upgrade. Besides in order for me to run my pny gtx 760 ima need 6 pin PCI express cables, but this psu only comes with 4 pin PCI express (another flag).
4 pin pcie cables dont exist.. maybe you are talking about molex?
Thats what im talking about LMFAO. (thx 4 correction)
Kind of cheaped out on the power supply! The power supply is the number one item that you do not want to cheap out on .
True, ima upgrade this friday and post pics on my new PSU. Check in if u like. THX
Why the APU with a dedicated graphics card? Also, if you are going to actually use the APU's power, you need a lot faster ram. It makes a pretty big difference. Finally (like every other comment says) CHANGE THE PSU. I'd hate for your new PC to be the reason you lose your home in a fire or at bare minimum all your PC components.
So what do you suggest i do with the apu? Should i get a actual CPU? if so ill think about getting a actual cpu soon
You're probably going to have to upgrade your motherboard when you upgrade your CPU. I would reccomend Intel 1151 socket motherboards. Skylake is an awesome platform to upgrade to and will give you great performance.
Yes. APUs are normally for low budget gaming builds or htpcs where a dedicated GPU is not in the budget. If you have a GPU there is no point in an APU because an APU's processing power is weaker than an actual CPU's.
A Skylake i3 will run circles around that APU. and cost cheaper as well.
Thx for the advice, Ima see if i can get a CPU. I dont know what ima do with the apu tho; Its brand new and I got it on a 1 day newegg deal for $99.00 istead of rgular price $130.00
make a htpc (home theater) with it :D
Nice build bro, at least you knew not to get a grey box psu brand, like I did. LOL (my mistakes)
I love Thermaltake cases! Good job by the way.
Thx bro, its a good looking case for a good deal. :)
I have the Thermaltake Core V31. It´s an amazing case and the airflow is superb!
Whaaat putting your real face into a build photo? You've just raised the bar.
I think everyone has already covered that the PSU is not the best, and you've already stated you're going to replace it, so, everything else looks good. Would be nice if you could hide that one long yellow cable somehow behind the motherboard tray, but that's just aesthetics.
Monster can and Trolli gummies in the last photo = Real Gamer Cred. lol jk
LOL im new to creating account didnt know putting face in with build was so rare LMFAO. But thx
(And when your building a gaming rig for the first time Monster and trolli worms are the way to go bro)
This looks like an overall solid build m8, the only problem is that PSU :/ It is a bit sketchy as far as power supplies go, and might end up damaging your components. +1 for Price/Performance though!
Ima get that changed soon, Thx tho.
Didn't mean to be repetitive with other people, Just trying to be helpful :)
No problem bro, I want your advice and opinions; so that I can build a better rig.
Looking cute. ;)
What is the purpose of this build?
gaming rig and I also want to do coding (demanding software use too)
This will do well for gaming for the time but i do have a few things to point out. Aside from the powersupply which you are addressing, 2x4 gig sticks of ram would have better suited this build to make use of dual channeling, as well as a 1tb 7200 rpm hard drive to get more speed. If you would plan on using the APU as your main gpu, higher speed memory would be necessary to get the most performance out of it. Over all you have a solid build, but you dont have the best upgrade path.
I see, I'll be adding a extra 8gb ram, the PSU will be switched to a corsair 600+ PSU, and Ive been looking relooking at a few of the comments and i just might take the apu out and add a cpu to go with my Graphics Card. I also might add extra led fans, ima go with a red + blue type of theme. Be sure to check it out on friday.
im trying to go into graphics design.
I would not suggest paring a APU and a GPU as you are defeating the point of the APU. I would look to swap to the Athlon x4 880 when it comes out, as it will be the most powerful stand alone CPU on the FM2+ socket. But if the A10 is powerful enough for you stick with it.
My order of upgrades.
PSU, the one you have it not from a good brand.
SSD, a 128gb will be enough for a boot drive and use the HDD for your stuffs. The speed difference will blow your socks off. You will thank me, trust me.
Move off the APU, do this as you find a need for it. No rush here, the money has been spent already.
All and all a good build. +1
thx bro, ill look into it right now.
Nice build i realy like the case that's a cool looking case. And it also has room for upgrading down the road 10/10 first build <3
thx alot, for $50 cant beat this case when it comes to looks and space
Right it's a good deal + a good case for a first build enjoy your new pc buddy.
Wow great build
@Monkeyd33 what are you going to use this rig for , gaming im guessing ?
yes, gaming and programming
How's it going. I don't know what kind of budget you are on but i see that you plan to do some upgrades on friday. I would like to give you a little insight in making the right choices! Please consider these changes, and have a good day.
The first thing I would do is scrap that timebomb of a Power Supply. It's not doing you any good and will be the killer of the system. I would really recommend Seasonic, EVGA or higher end Corsair models (Just not the CX or CXm series please!)
EVGA G2 Power Supplies are made by a company called Superflower and use very high end components.
Right now on amazon the: EVGA SuperNOVA 550 G2 80 Plus Gold is going for 79.99. I think this is a excellent choice and will offer you plenty of room if you plan to stay on a single GPU. Plus they have a 10 year warranty! + fully modeler. I can't stress enough how vital the Power Supply is to your system.
As far as Ram goes, there is really not alot of reasons to put another stick in there, unless you plan to use the APU for a long period of time.
Maybe consider a low capacity Solid State Drive? Can't hurt and is really one of the biggest upgrades you can do these days.
Thank you for your time, and enjoy your build
Looks like I found my PSU, im looking up the EVGA supernova 550w sale online right now. thx alot for ur comment, u just helped me figure out the PSU part.
? okay, thx i guess
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You got a pretty controversial build, haha. Looking at the current state in which you are in, the PSU will do since as you stated, it doesn't have the right PCIe cables to connect to your 760. Also, you've got enough RAM for that APU, it should also do. If you're looking into buying a PSU, look around for Corsair's RM, RMi (not CX), and EVGA's B2/G2 PSU's. SeaSonic also has some nice S12II models. Congratulations on your new rig, enjoy it!
Thx man, really appreciate it.
Well, nice touch on the Monster, and I'm not gonna judge the cable management as mine is 100% worse. I would suggest a CPU cooler like a EVO and maybe an optical drive fir installing drivers, just for future use.
okay thx, ill think about that.
What are u using this build for (game wise)
Since my PSU is bad right now i play games that run the same power as league of legends ( games in this field wont stress out the bad brand PSU). Soon as i change my PSU and addd my pny gtx 760 into the rig ill start playing higher end games like witcher and the newer games like the division.
but i will also soon be using this rig for programming and recording game-play videos.
In my opinion great build man u got steam?
ya bro, i got steam
Whats ur username? ???
Sry for the late response. My username is bonexhead365
Slick build +1 :)
Lol please dont drink monsters they are so bad for you. But hey nice build man. Just please, please, don't let your computer burn your house down because it is bad quality.
LOL ok. :)
Did you go and spend $50 to add an aftermarket and pretty much completely unnecessary cooler to a GTX 760?
I didnt, im buying it off a friend; and plus a cooler was needed for the card because it would over heat in his PC, besides it is a PNY GTX 760 enthusiast edition; look it up bro.
I did look it up, if the card was overheating given its moderate TDP it could generate, then something was starving the card for air. Or he had a PSU that wasn't providing enough current/power to allow the card to run properly.
By dank i mean sick, haha
Fan looks dope!
Whats your keyboard?
nice i like it cable management could be better but i like it
change the apu into a cpu becouse you already ave the GTX 760
If you haven't noticed, his PSU doesn't have the right PCIe connections to support a GPU, the APU will suffice.
You think so? Im might think about it for a upgrade later on.
also change your PSU
LOL, on it. Thx :)
What made you go with the 5400RPM HD?
When you've got everything you want in it, can you benchmark it and post the stats. I am curious on how well this PC performs.
I wouldn't mind building one for fun.
Check out my build https://pcpartpicker.com/b/yhbj4D
Nice job again looks good.
Thx bro, I'll try to post benchmarks on Friday, and SICK build bro love the dual monitors and the gtx 970, LUV the solid red design. If you ever think about upgrading in the future; hit me up with a comment and ill check in.
you should add another stick of ram so you can dual channel
I might add another on friday
lol Ik, I havent drank one since that day:)
im living that Gamer/Athlete life:)
Working on it, thx tho :)