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manirelli Sept. 15, 2014

Starting a new installment, here are gaming build guides for common price points. These builds take advantage of our parametric part list feature, so they should adjust automatically as part prices fluctuate through the day. Check them out and let us know what you think below or in the comments sections on the guides!

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skemble 24 Builds 18 points 31 months ago

No AMD love? ;)

manirelli staff submitter 7 Builds 5 points 31 months ago

Plenty of love for their GPUs ;)

skemble 24 Builds 3 points 31 months ago

I understand the feels!

IamApropos 3 Builds 4 points 31 months ago

sadly the Intel influence is strong here...

skemble 24 Builds 5 points 31 months ago

It's a damn shame.. :/

coolguy562 1 Build 3 points 31 months ago

I agree, I was thinking on these lower end (800, 650) dollar builds there would be AMD but nope

Eschaton 6 Builds 1 point 31 months ago

hurr i5 obviously the only viable choice :P

+1

aberusugi 1 point 31 months ago

The FX-4300 is cheaper and outperforms the i3-4150 in many ways, more cores, more multi-tasking, better single thread performance, etc... Better for streaming with OBS if you were interested in streaming your gaming to Twitch for instance (the Vishera's, until you get to the high-end i5's or above outperform Haswell in OBS).

skemble 24 Builds 2 points 31 months ago

I agree with most of what you said except for the 4300 having better single core performance. Better performance across all cores yes, but the Intel chip wins on single core performance.

LeMonarque 3 Builds 4 points 31 months ago

I feel like there's a disturbing lack of AMD CPUs in the sub-4690K builds! But that's just me. Thanks for the parametric lists.

Sprocket30 2 Builds 4 points 31 months ago

I'd take a fx-6300 over i3 anyday.

aberusugi 0 points 31 months ago

The fx-6300 costs 7 dollars more, would have lower single threaded performance that is important to gaming on a budget, but much higher mutli-thread and multi-tasking obviously. It depends on what you would do in gaming. If you were playing games that weren't as cpu-reliant but gpu-reliant and you wanted to stream your gameplay, the fx-6300 would be superior by far due to multi-threaded application compatability with OBS. However, if you just wanted to play games, the i3 should outperform in single-threaded performance. Also the fx-4300 will beat the i3 in single threaded performance for a lower price. In the long run the i3 will save you a bit of money with almost half the power consumption though. Lots of factors to consider.

BaSkA 2 points 31 months ago

In both the $1000 and $1200 builds, there are Microcenter pink-up only deals.. that's kinda sad! Also, I don't think the H100i in the $1200 build is worth it, the $1000 build CPU cooler is more than enough.

Pretty nice idea and I wish to see more options in higher price ranges!

Thank you.

manirelli staff submitter 7 Builds 3 points 31 months ago

Thanks for the feedback. I think you may have found the first bug with build guides and we are looking into fixing it.

aberusugi 1 point 31 months ago

And what would the advantage of the Phanteks cooler be over a hyper 212 evo anyways, save 50 bucks and they should be the same performance.

dtuffy 2 points 31 months ago

Great post, the suggestions are greatly appreciated. Maybe next time do some for specific form factors?

manirelli staff submitter 7 Builds 2 points 31 months ago

That is a fantastic idea. We've got some exciting plans for build guides and I will make sure this factors into those decisions.

Nick_rocks248 1 point 31 months ago

Yeah I love that idea, I'm going to become a live streamer and video recorder so if you could do a build for games and that I would love it!

ryan2pro 4 Builds 1 point 31 months ago

I would love small form factor budget builds ! and some amd in there ...

SugarGorilla 2 points 31 months ago

Awesome post! I'd love to see more of these. The only changes I'd make would be to beef up the power supplies a bit more. It doesn't leave much room for over clocking when they are such low wattage. Other than that, they are perfect!

James. 1 Build 1 point 31 months ago

In the $1200 build there's a Palit GTX 780, alot of people advised me against Palit saying that they weren't a great brand. Is that a card you've picked or is it just the cheapest 780 over in america?

manirelli staff submitter 7 Builds 3 points 31 months ago

Palit is a great brand that I wish we got more of in the states. They often bring innovative new coolers to the market that work fantastically. It looks like you are browsing from the UK so that 780 is actually the cheapest in your market. In the USA a different GPU is selected.

James. 1 Build 1 point 31 months ago

Oh OK, I wasn't sure due to how many people told me to stick away and stay with MSI EVGA etc, I did consider them because that specific cooler looks pretty nice.

rj2886 1 point 31 months ago

Build guides are a very good idea. I am looking to build a gaming pc for the first time within the next 2-3 months. Specific form factors would really help as well. Is the gtx 780 better than the R9 290? and is the R9 280x better than gtx 770?

bsdev820 1 Build 1 point 31 months ago

I like the idea of a parametric-based guide for building. Obviously there will be small part objections but I think that this is a great way to get PCPartPicker, a site that I love so much, used even more by people that want to get into building. :)

Tahab_1 2 Builds 1 point 31 months ago

So, wait, can we do this too? That cool post, that shows the pictures of the parts?

manirelli staff submitter 7 Builds 1 point 31 months ago

Guides are only available to staff at the moment but we are looking into expanding them for users as well.

neophyteCHEAPSKATE 1 point 31 months ago

Hi. Like the name suggests, I'm new at this. Unlike many gaming enthusiasts on this site, I went the AMD route due to the lower cost per GHz.

I tried my hand at planning a low budget build myself, bLqrpg, but I don't really know how much cooling I need if I'm not overclocking anything, and I think I may be overspending a little on the wattage. Any advice to help me cut down the costs?

Vorago 1 Build 2 points 31 months ago

If you don't plan to overclock then you should be fine using the stock cooling solution that will be included with your cpu.

If you only plan to have one graphics card in your system and you won't be overclocking your cpu (heck even if you do) then 500-650w will be fine for your psu. I currently run an FX-8350 with moderate overclock and GTX 780 with a 650w psu.

Also very many gaming enthusiasts have gone AMD for their cpu and I think it's a little disappointing their cpus were left out of the parametric part lists, especially for the less expensive price tiers. Price to performance for a gamer you will be hard pressed to beat the FX lineup of cpus.

djdirka 1 point 31 months ago

man, these builds look really nice..i wish i had the money for a gaming pc :/ the economy is getting really bad and me and my family are stuck in one of those pits. I hope i can save up at least $650 by next year just to be proud that i did it. if i had the money, i would easily choose one of these builds, but unfortunately prices are rising and newer parts take over which makes it harder to afford anything

Manoothegamer500 1 point 31 months ago

How can you use this feature your self ?

manirelli staff submitter 7 Builds 1 point 31 months ago

Which feature? Guides are currently only available to staff. Parametrics you can read about here: http://pcpartpicker.com/blog/43/parametric-part-lists

Manoothegamer500 1 point 31 months ago

Will you be releasing them to non-staff members soon?

manirelli staff submitter 7 Builds 1 point 31 months ago

We are still working on UI and the implementation for users but when it is ready we will let you all know.

Manoothegamer500 1 point 31 months ago

Thanks !

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Familyman 1 Build 1 point 31 months ago

Some good builds, and I know you are going to hear this a lot, but why no AMD builds?

manirelli staff submitter 7 Builds 2 points 31 months ago

To be honest, I find AMD's offerings just aren't up to par with Intel at the moment and have a hard time fitting them in on any budget. At the lower end there is no need for the extra cores as a majority of games are going to be single or dual threaded which leaves you with 4 unused cores on AMD with 2 lower clocked and worse performing than the Intel equivalent.

With that said, if you find that you are doing tasks regularly that make use of multi-thread/core then I would absolutely recommend the AMD chips on a budget.

Watchful 1 point 31 months ago

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DragonForge 1 point 31 months ago

On the $650 build, why'd you choose the i3 over the AMD option? I want to know, lol.

LemingSweaty 1 Build 1 point 31 months ago

There should be workstation builds like low to high end. Idk maybe that's stupid

manirelli staff submitter 7 Builds 1 point 31 months ago

Not a bad idea. We are planning to expand the guides and this is the kind of feedback we love to see.

Kaltorak 1 Build 1 point 31 months ago

I think these may need a rethink now that Nvidia's 900 series are out.

7acen7Dragon 1 Build 1 point 31 months ago

agreed, the $600 and $800 are fine but the $1000 and $1200 should use the gtx 970 since it has superior performance and price.

jimgreene 1 point 31 months ago

This has good potential.

Small tweak:

8GB RAM pick -

1 x 8 GB memory may be the cheapest, but disregards dual channel.
(Is there even a "gaming" mobo out there that is only mono-channel?)

I see 2 x 4GB is currently cheapest, but days before 1 x 8GB was … so a couple $ may have been saved, but how much performance loss was bought?

manirelli staff submitter 7 Builds 1 point 31 months ago

For most users the performance gain with dual channel is a fraction of a percentage and not really applicable. This is why I included a single DIMM option into the parametrics.

jimgreene 1 point 31 months ago

I do not have any data or facts to present to say otherwise.

From what I have gleaned off the internet, I am under the impression the performance difference is a magnitude higher (at a few percentages) and in context of "gaming build" worth noting. Also in terms of $/performance it seems noteworthy.

manirelli staff submitter 7 Builds 1 point 31 months ago

GamersNexus did a great write up on the topic if you are interested in more information: http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1349-ram-how-dual-channel-works-vs-single-channel/Page-3

ZLoth 1 Build 1 point 31 months ago

Only criticism is the $1,200 build which is using a video chipset that just got discontinued by nVidia as of this morning.

Nathan173AB 1 point 31 months ago

Nvidia is better.

desipher 1 point 31 months ago

Can anyone help criticise my current build? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PQf4P6

I'm trying to stay under $1300 for this build, and I am buying the parts slowly over the next 2 months to find the greatest deals.

Some thoughts:

*I plan on doing a lot of gaming on this rig, and the i5 4690k is perfect for that, and should OC well with the 212 EVO cooler.

*The GTX 970 just came out and for my budget, this will be amazing.

*I've heard great things about the Asus Z97-A mobo, but i've also heard great things about the gigabyte and MSI Z97 boards. What do you all recommend for this budget?

*G.Skill Sniper memory. Overkill, or good choice? I like the high clock rates.

*Already purchased the Samsung 840 EVO SSD, can't wait to see this things performance.

*The Corsair RM 750W PSU is looking good to me, but what do you all recommend?

*I realize the Corsair 780t full tower just came out, but that likely won't go down in price anytime soon, so I am going with the 760t.

manirelli staff submitter 7 Builds 1 point 31 months ago

Please post this as your own thread in the appropriate forum.

Architor 1 Build 1 point 31 months ago

All of these builds are missing 2 critical components to making a working box: an optical drive and an operating system, so the prices are a little deceptive IMO. (not to mention montior, keyboard, and mouse) What is the philosophy behind leaving those out, because this seems pretty consistent with other builds you've posted?

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