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Very light Gaming and light CAD PC Max £1000

InfamousCow
  • 57 months ago

Hello People!

So, this is going to be my first build. I am going to do very light gaming (like Minecraft and Robocraft) and some light CAD (On Blender). I was thinking of either Intel Core i5 4690k or AMD FX 8350. I was not sure what to go for, as this is my first build although I have done lots of research. I live in the UK, and was also wondering if I should ship parts from the US as they are much cheaper there...

£1000 is my absolute max (Including monitor) but I would prefer to spend around £500-£800

Thank you sooo much for viewing this and please comment!!!

Cow

Comments

  • 57 months ago
  • 2 points

Thank you so much for the amount of comments I am getting . :)

Here is a pcpartpicker list I created:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor £178.00 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard £110.86 @ Ebuyer
Memory Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory £44.74 @ Amazon UK
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £39.98 @ Scan.co.uk
Case NZXT H440 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case £88.98 @ Novatech
Power Supply Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply £57.98 @ Amazon UK
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) £73.99 @ Aria PC
Wireless Network Adapter TP-Link TL-WDN3800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter £18.88 @ Amazon UK
Monitor LG 27MP37VQ-B 60Hz 27.0" Monitor £167.97 @ PC World Business
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £781.38
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-18 10:24 BST+0100

Tell me what you think!

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

That's better than the list I tried to make ...goes to show its good to get lots of diff advice

Not sure if you need the wireless network adapter ...the motherboard might well have one with it ...I'm too lazy to have double checked though! Edit : I checked and I'm wrong ...oopsie ..looks like you do need one ...sorry!

About Windows 10 ...it doesn't have windows media player in it ...but windows 7 does. Otherwise I think windows 10 is supposed to be better than 7 (though 7 might be cheaper and you get a free upgrade to 10 if you have 7)

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

I thought the free upgrade faze had already finished!? I am using windows 10 right now... I haven't found not having windows media player a problem yet... And yes, getting multiple opinions is very useful!

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

I love the how-to-geek site .. Kinda suits me !

It looks like it's saying the free upgrade thing is still going .... But sometimes even geeky types (like me) can be wrong (in my case quite often!)

http://www.howtogeek.com/218880/windows-10-is-almost-here-heres-what-you-need-to-know/

Having said that, I've no idea how much hassle it is to upgrade from 7->10 and whether the saving is worth the hassle!

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

I personally think it's worth it. But that's just my personal opinion. you should check out windows 10 on youtube and see if you like it... :)

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

i5 4690K outperforms by a long way

dont import, you havent factored in import taxes :D

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Ok Thanks! And yeah, I know the i5 does, but it's way more expensive... do you think it would be worth it? Considering i'm only doing very light gaming and light CAD?

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Get a cheaper i5 then, like the i5 4460

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

So, generally Intel is better than AMD?

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

intel does 3 instructions per clock sycle and amd does two. A 2Ghz intel chip is the same as a 3 Ghz AMD chip.

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Wow. that's useful knowledge. Thanks!

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Do you want us to make a parts list for you? why is it in opinions if so?

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Well, it says, on the top left of the screen under the pcpartpicker banner that its in:

Forums/Systems/Create A Part List For Me/

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Seeing as minecraft can run fine on integrated graphics, I think this will do very well. The i7 might be overkill, but it'll be nice to have in Blender, which is the same reason I included a Quadro graphics card instead of a standard gaming card. In gaming, the k620 performs about 30% better than a GT 720, so it should be sufficient to cover the needs of light gaming. However, since it is a Quadro, it will be much more responsive and useful in CAD than a similarly priced 750ti. Build includes a 27" 1080p IPS monitor, for your viewing pleasure. If you don't care about overclocking, I can make this build a pretty penny cheaper by switching to a Xeon and a less intensive cooler

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor £257.36 @ Amazon UK
CPU Cooler Phanteks PH-TC12DX_BK 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler £34.94 @ Scan.co.uk
Motherboard ASRock Fatal1ty Z97M Killer Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard £86.52 @ Amazon UK
Memory Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory £38.85 @ Dabs
Storage Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive £62.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £39.98 @ Scan.co.uk
Video Card PNY Quadro K620 2GB Video Card £145.86 @ CCL Computers
Case Thermaltake Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case £42.72 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply £57.35 @ Aria PC
Monitor LG 27MP37VQ-B 60Hz 27.0" Monitor £167.97 @ PC World Business
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £934.54
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-17 19:36 BST+0100
  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes, minecraft does run if you have integrated graphics. The computer I have now has 4 GB RAM, Intel HD graphics and Intel Bay Trail M 2930 1.83 GHz with turbo up to 2.16 GHz with a 2 MB cache (it is at 100% capacity at turbo boost 2.16 GHz when I start up the minecraft launcher). So, as you can see, I'm not right now that into overclocking... I like the parts list though! I didn't know much about Quadro before... Lastly, how is Z97M Chipset different from Z97? Or is there no difference?

Thanks for spending the time to put together this parts list... :)

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

The difference between z97 and z97m is not a chipset difference, it's just a form factor difference, z97m is the microATX motherboard.

Usually the only people that know about the quadro are the ones that have to use it for professional reasons. It's not a common consumer GPU by any means. I think it will offer a good balance of rendering capability and gaming performance that you're looking for, but if you'd be more comfortable with a more common gaming GPU, the 750ti is the best alternative.

I changed the parts list to a non-overclocking system. I only changed the processor, motherboard, and the cooler, but the price is now over $100 lower!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor £196.12 @ More Computers
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard £67.39 @ CCL Computers
Memory Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory £38.85 @ Dabs
Storage Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive £62.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £39.98 @ Scan.co.uk
Video Card PNY Quadro K620 2GB Video Card £145.86 @ CCL Computers
Case Thermaltake Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case £42.72 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply £57.35 @ Aria PC
Monitor LG 27MP37VQ-B 60Hz 27.0" Monitor £167.97 @ PC World Business
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £819.23
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-18 15:08 BST+0100
  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice. Looking good. Do you think the i5 6600k would be better?

Comparison

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

It's tradeoffs. The 6600k is faster for up to 4-threaded applications, but if an application can use more than 4 threads, the Xeon is a better fit. The Xeon will also be less costly since it's on a ddr3 platform and the boards cost significantly less. Also, after looking into the balance of rendering and simulation, it seems that a GTX would be a better GPU to have in the build, since the CUDA cores in the geforce series are more useful than the raw linear power of the quadro. So I'm going to suggest the 950 in place of the quadro, no matter which build you use.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor £199.99 @ Amazon UK
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler £24.95 @ Aria PC
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z170M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard £94.03 @ More Computers
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory £42.09 @ Ebuyer
Storage Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive £62.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £39.98 @ Scan.co.uk
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 950 2GB OC Edition Video Card £125.99 @ Aria PC
Case Thermaltake Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case £42.72 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply £57.35 @ Aria PC
Monitor LG 27MP37VQ-B 60Hz 27.0" Monitor £167.97 @ PC World Business
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £858.06
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-18 16:11 BST+0100
  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you very much! I have no idea about cuda cores! It is very useful to have advice from very knowledgeable people! :)

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  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

I would do this

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/mZKhzy

(Sorry ..don't know how to show the list except in link)

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Click on the "File Drawer" icon near the top, copy the code in the popup window & paste it in the forum reply..

Good list by the way ..

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor £178.00 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard £110.86 @ Ebuyer
Memory Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory £38.85 @ Dabs
Storage Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive £71.37 @ Amazon UK
Storage Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £53.94 @ Aria PC
Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card £260.39 @ Aria PC
Case Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case £72.48 @ Aria PC
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply £71.99 @ Amazon UK
Monitor BenQ RL2455HM 60Hz 24.0" Monitor £132.83 @ Amazon UK
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £990.71
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-17 20:51 BST+0100
  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

I always just tell people to click the little reddit icon. It's simple enough to type and to be understood. I'm pretty sure it's the same as the PCPP internal markup anyway.

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah. Very nice parts list... I can't help but notice that there is no cooler... Is it okay to have no cooler?

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

I think the CPU comes with a cooler ...so I guess the question is whether you need a better cooler than it comes with. Honestly I don't know!

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah, same.

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Maybe try with the one that it comes with and upgrade later if it's a problem ? No doubt others here will have a better idea of how safe that is !

Oh ...also I missed out operating system...bit cheaty of me ... I was hoping you could get one for free if you use Linux or maybe £25 or so if windows ...but I don't know enough to specify for what you need. I'd use Windows for gaming and maybe cad (dunno tho) but that's me ...I'd pick windows 7 and buy it on amazon for £25 ish and hope it was legit!

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  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Maybe I am the only one feeling bad that ppl are STILL choosing the Haswell i5-4690K when the much better Skylake i5-6600K/ i7-6700K has already arrived Aug. 5..

The DDR4 skylake is better than the DDR3 Haswell Z97 by a long margin in all benchmarks including Gaming:

http://us.hardware.info/comparisontable/products/220715-315132-241524

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790K/3502vs2384

If it were my money, I'd spend it like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor £199.99 @ Amazon UK
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 612 Ver.2 44.2 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler £40.38 @ Scan.co.uk
Motherboard Asus Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard £116.20 @ More Computers
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory £48.31 @ Ebuyer
Storage Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive £71.37 @ Amazon UK
Storage Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £34.74 @ Aria PC
Video Card Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card £249.98 @ CCL Computers
Case NZXT H440 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case £88.98 @ Novatech
Power Supply XFX TS 650W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply £57.94 @ CCL Computers
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) -
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £907.89
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-17 21:09 BST+0100

Absolutely the LOUDEST BANG for the buck!!

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Ah... I didn't know that 6th gen was that much better... And DDR4 sounds like it would be great for blender. Love the case! Looks nice and clean, yet snazzy... I just noticed that the OS isn't included in the price and the price doesn't include a monitor... Might be a bit pricey for me...

Thanks for putting this together though! :)

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  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Very nice system, although it is a bit pricey considering it doesn't include a monitor or OS... Also, it looks like it might be overkill considering I'll only be playing minecraft and robocraft and doing light CAD...

Thanks for putting this together though...

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point
  1. What does "before a dollar changes hands" mean?
  2. Personally I don't think the 6600k is a fair comparison with the 4460 A) because the 6600k is £60 more expensive and B) because it has the suffix k which means unlocked.

I personally think the 6600k is better matched with the 4690k. But yeah, even then, the 6600k beats the 4690k... Yeah, I see your point...

Thanks for the cool comparison website! :)

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

yea dude, the very best for ur build.. just letting u know that if it was me, I'd try to get a skylake.. that's all...

As I said before, wishing u the very best for ur build.. Thx

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

I have seen the specs... And yeah. I think I will go for a 6600k as it is only £20 more expensive than the 4690k. The motherboard and the ram will be much more expensive but they will be much easier to upgrade in the future...

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Check out my PC:

InfamousCow's Laptop

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

I get ur point.. X55 Asus is really old..

  • 57 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah. It was £260

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