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$500 budget Gaming pc ( have a few parts already)

Ranx
  • 55 months ago

Hi Everyone this is my first time building and i need a pc that will be able to run Dragon Age Inquisition, Witcher 3, Battlefield and most modern games. i plan to normally use this on a 32'' lg 1080p Tv.

I already Have a Few parts : 750ti , a 500w psu, Mouse, Keyboard, and (2x4GB) ram although the ram i currently have may be outdated so feel free to suggest those as well.

Budget is $500, I live in northern jersey and there is a micro center within driving distance.

Thank you so much!

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  • 55 months ago
  • 2 points

This should be able to run what you are looking for, if you have ddr3 ram then the 2x4 gb ram you have should work too.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor $226.99 @ NCIX US
Motherboard MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $42.89 @ OutletPC
Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $39.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $44.89 @ OutletPC
Case Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case $47.99 @ Micro Center
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) $89.88 @ OutletPC
Case Fan Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan $4.99 @ Newegg
Case Fan Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan $4.99 @ Newegg
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $522.51
Mail-in rebates -$20.00
Total $502.51
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-04 12:48 EST-0500
  • 55 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you so much, would this also help with the upcoming fallout 4?

  • 55 months ago
  • 3 points

Yes, this system should be able to run fallout 4. The major computer componets that affect your gaming is really just the GPU.

The Intel Core i5-4690K is an overclockable CPU and even when it's not overclocked it should not bottle neck your 750ti and the 750ti should run most games pretty smoothly at max graphics around 40-80 fps.

If you don't want to got with the Haswell 1150 socket and go with a skylake 1151 you could do that too. It requires ddr4 ram and a different motherbord. I just don't see too much of an improvement in the stats comparing them yet. Like at max a 10% increase I'll make a 1151 build for you too.

There are a few factors that affect FPS when gaming. This should help you get a little edjucated on building a computer.

1) GPU architecture

The general rule of thumb when it comes to determining the effect of a particular graphics card's attribute to its performance is as follows, from most influential to least influential:-

The amount of Shaders/CUDA cores (as compared to the same family/generation of cards),

followed by the card's ROPs,

Shader/Processor/CUDA core clocks,

Memory Type (Dedicated, or Integrated) and Interface (64, 128, 256 and 384 bit) ,

Memory Speeds (clocks) and Generation (DDR3, GDDR3, GDDR5) and

finally, the Amount of Memory (512 MB - 3 GB).

When you compare the GTX 560 and GTX 580, you have to note that the 580 has a higher number of CUDA cores (512 cores) as compared to the GTX 560 Ti (384 cores) and the 560 (336 cores).

This indicates that the even if the GTX 580 is lower clocked than the GTX 560 variants, (recalling the hierarchy listing, number of Cores>Core clocks), the 580 will still perform better, resulting in a higher FPS count for the GTX 580.

To summarize, get a Graphics card with many cuda cores/shaders, one with at least a 256 bit memory interface and one with 2 - 3 GB of GDDR5 RAM

Another way of quickly determining the prowess of a card based on its model number is to look at the second digit of the number, given that the the cards in the comparison are of the same generation.

Example:- GTX 580 vs GTX 560, 8 is higher than 6 so 580 is more powerful

2) CPU Clocks and Architecture

Although most games and 3D applications are GPU limited (which means that they can only run as fast as your graphics card can perform, and the CPU doesn't really affect the speed), there a few that require the CPU heavily for additional functions, like multi threaded physics simulation calculations, and threaded AI.

Notable examples in which your CPU might heavily affect your FPS is in strategy based, AI heavy games like Civilization V, and Battlefield 3 with it's dynamic multi-threaded renderer

In this case, the superior CPU would be one with at least quad cores and lots of Level 1/2/3 cache plus an IMC (Integrated Memory Contoller, reduces RAM access latency. All Intel CPUs since the Core i series and AMD CPUs since the Athlon 64 have this built in.).

Hyperthreading is also a bonus to have but it's effect varies from game to game. (the Core i7/i5 series by Intel and the Bulldozer series by AMD)

3) Your RAM amount and speed

Your game requires system RAM to run optimally.

Insufficient system RAM could lead to parts of the game being sent out to the pagefile on your HDD which would lead catastrophic loss of performance and FPS, and/or stuttery performance. (the game is trying to load assets from the HDD instead of the system RAM which is a few orders of magnitude faster than your spinner)

RAM Speeds are also important but the margins of improvement in your FPS are not as noticeable when using slower RAM but sufficient RAM as compared to if you have insufficient RAM

Get at least 8 GBs for a 64 bit OS, 16 GB (or as much as your motherboard supports) to be future proof.

4) Your HDD type (SSD vs HDD)

Games that rely on streaming in assets continuously to the system RAM/VRAM (Video RAM) will perform better on a SSD as compared to a conventional HDD.

Examples include games that use the Unreal Engine 3 middleware such as Gears of War PC, and Mass Effect 3

5) Background Applications and other Antivirus Scanners (AVs) and Scanners

Having a high number of background programs and parasitic applications will of course lower your FPS due to resource contention.

If you want the absolute fastest FPS count during gaming, shut down all unnecessary tasks and programs before starting the game to ensure that the PC will dedicate all its resources to the game.

Set AVs into gaming mode if available and disable active real time malware scanning while gaming.

This (disabling protections for AVs) of course doesn't apply to online gaming.

6) Drivers

Having old and outdated drivers will reduce your FPS.

The latest drivers for your card are usually the best, unless there are specific issues pertaining to the card/game for that particular driver

7) Other things to look out for when looking for a graphics card.

Power requirements (Do I have a PSU strong enough to handle this graphics card? How many 6 pin PCI-E connectors will i need to power this card and do i have them?)

Dimensions (How many slots will it occupy in the case?, Will it fit my case?)

Manufacturer warranties (Terms? 1 year? 3 years? The longer the better. What are the RMA policies in case of breakdowns?),

Cooling systems (how many fans does it have, is it noisy or quiet, fan RPMs, low profile) and

Overclocking status (Is it factory overclocked? How far can it be pushed?)

Always check out reviews from reputable sites like HardOCP for a preliminary look at how the card you're interested in will perform for you and the reviewer's experience with the card.

There're quite a few more but i think this should get you started.

Hope that answers your queries! If you have further enquiries, don't hesitate to post them in this thread.

  • 55 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you so much, an extremely well detailed explanation!

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  • 55 months ago
  • 1 point

Here is the Skylake build it's more expensive because well it's newer. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor $254.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $24.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-H170M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $94.89 @ OutletPC
Memory Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory $44.49 @ SuperBiiz
Storage Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $44.89 @ OutletPC
Case Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case $47.99 @ Micro Center
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) $89.88 @ OutletPC
Case Fan Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan $4.99 @ Newegg
Case Fan Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan $4.99 @ Newegg
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $642.00
Mail-in rebates -$30.00
Total $612.00
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-04 14:22 EST-0500
  • 55 months ago
  • 1 point

I think I'll use your first build, if is not much of a difference and get to save myself a few dollars, I really appreciate it.

  • 55 months ago
  • 1 point

What's the speed of the ram you have?

  • 55 months ago
  • 1 point

i think its 1600mhz.

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