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Should I drop the AIO coolers for a Custom Loop?

Daiyus

49 months ago

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor £178.01 @ Amazon UK
CPU Cooler Corsair H90 94.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler £71.56 @ CCL Computers
CPU Cooler Corsair H110i GT 113.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler £95.94 @ Aria PC
Motherboard Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard £133.45 @ More Computers
Memory Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory £70.22 @ CCL Computers
Storage Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive £115.90 @ Amazon UK
Storage Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £61.14 @ Aria PC
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card £279.95 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply £110.14 @ Amazon UK
Wireless Network Adapter Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter £28.95 @ Amazon UK
Case Fan Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-2000 PWM 107.4 CFM 140mm Fan £20.00
Case Fan Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-2000 PWM 107.4 CFM 140mm Fan £20.00
Case Fan Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-2000 PWM 107.4 CFM 140mm Fan £20.00
Case Fan Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-2000 PWM 107.4 CFM 140mm Fan £20.00
Case Fan Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-2000 PWM 107.4 CFM 140mm Fan £20.00
Case Fan Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-2000 PWM 107.4 CFM 140mm Fan £20.00
Case Fan Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-2000 PWM 107.4 CFM 140mm Fan £20.00
Case Fan Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-2000 PWM 107.4 CFM 140mm Fan £20.00
Case Fan Noctua NF-F12 industrialPPC-2000 PWM 71.7 CFM 120mm Fan £20.00
Monitor AOC i2769Vm 60Hz 27.0" Monitor £177.65 @ Aria PC
Mouse Logitech RX250 Wired Optical Mouse £11.50 @ Misco UK
Other TeckNet Mouse Mat with Gel Rest £5.49
Other Perixx PERIBOARD-407B £9.99
Other SilverStone SST-SOD02 Slot-In Slim Optical DVD Drive - Black £60.46
Other Official Xbox One Wireless Controller Purchased
Other Xbox Wireless Adapter for Windows £19.99
Other Xbox One Play and Charge Kit £17.98
Other Lian Li EX-553X SlimCD 5.25" Bay Adapter Black £21.52
Other Silverstone SST-CFP51B HDD Expansion Kit - Black £29.99
Other Hydro Series HG10 N970 GPU Liquid Cooling Bracket £29.99
Other EK-Cable Splitter 4-Fan PWM Extended £5.45
Other EK-Cable Y-Splitter 2-Fan PWM £2.98
Other EK-Cable Y-Splitter 2-Fan PWM £2.98
Other NZXT Switch 810 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case £119.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £1841.00
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-12 15:09 GMT+0000

Above is my current (WIP) plan for my next rig. I'm basically going balls out on this one. I don't do much for myself so I've decided that I am going to have a no expense spared (within reason) project to work towards.

As you can see I'm planning on liquid cooling both the CPU and GPU. Given that my selected case has room for a 360mm Rad at the top (maybe a 420mm with some modifications) plus more space at the back for another 140mm Rad would it be worth taking the plunge into a custom loop?

I like the AIO systems as they're low maintenance, but on websites such as Fractal Design's Kelvin series they show expanded systems without reservoirs or anything. Is it possible to make a custom loop as low maintenance as an AIO?

Any advice appreciated. Thank you.

Comments

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

If you are liquid cooling both the gpu and cpu go with a custom loop. Try ekwb's kits they come with everything and they are a nice in between for cooling. However you need to add a gpu to the loop on your own but that shouldn't be too hard.

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

Their kits do look good. I have to say it's all extremely overwhelming at this point. That may just be a good thing though; a custom loop would educate me more...

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

What case are you using? And how many overpriced fans?!

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm looking at the NZXT Switch 810. It's stylish with loads of room.

I put fans into the system with the idea of filling almost every spot in the case just out of interest more than anything.

I was considering push/pull on both radiators as well, although whether that's wholly necessary still up for debate in my head.

Like I said, no expense spared within reason. It's as much about the build as it is the performance.

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

You do realize your fans cost as much as your cpu right?

Don't bother with that many fans man...

Use some cheaper fans if you must have that many

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes. In truth that almost certainly goes beyond "within reason". I left them in there more as idea of price. Noctua's are considered some of the best fans out there after all. However if I do go for a custom loop it may be worth saving some money on fans to help keep the whole build under £2000.

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

Unless you are simply going for looks you will get better performance moving up to an i7 and a more powerful GPU and sticking to stock speeds and air cooling.

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

Get rid of all those Noctua fans and you can afford a beefier GPU!

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  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

I think you're probably right on the money with this comment. I'm definitely leaning towards a custom loop for the educational and fun factors.

Maybe if I am spending this much on a new rig it might be worth jumping up to a Skylake/DDR4 system?

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes, I think you'd be much better off splurging a bit more and going with a better GPU, and DDR4 and a CPU upgrade.

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  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

OK, so this is starting to get a little ludicrous on the price front, but hey, you can't take it with you, right?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor £189.59 @ Aria PC
Motherboard Asus Z170-DELUXE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard £221.77 @ Amazon UK
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory £72.78 @ Aria PC
Storage Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive £119.64 @ Amazon UK
Storage Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £61.14 @ Aria PC
Video Card Asus GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB STRIX Video Card £599.94 @ Aria PC
Case Lian-Li PC-O7S HTPC Case £351.60
Power Supply EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply £110.14 @ Amazon UK
Optical Drive Silverstone SST-SOB02 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer £60.46
Monitor Asus VC279H 60Hz 27.0" Monitor £173.05 @ Dabs
Other EK-XLC Predator 360 £219.57
Other EK-FC980 GTX Ti Strix Backplate - Nickel £31.55
Other EK-FC980 GTX Ti Strix - Acetal+Nickel (w/ Predator Pre-Fill) £120.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £2331.47
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-13 12:08 GMT+0000

So I've bumped up the components. If I'm spending this much it'll need to do 60FPS at 1080p for a good five years. I'm happy with a jump to 1080p as I've been gaming at 720p since 2009 anyway. I'd rather see smooth consistent FPS to a higher resolution. With the OTT water cooling overclocking as required to maintain that standard should be no problem.

The case is ridiculously expensive, but it looks so good! Splurging now also means that when I do need an upgrade in the future I've already got a really good case and custom loop system ready to go with just an upgrade on the GPU block to go along with whatever GPU I buy. It'll actually make future builds an awful lot cheaper (in theory).

I opted for a slightly more expensive motherboard to have the Wi-Fi and Bluetooth built in. Just makes for a neater feeling package. I was tempted by the MSI Gaming M9 ACK, but for almost £100 more it didn't seem worth it, plus the Asus DELUXE will look awesome with the Nickel GPU water block! I'm still not sure whether I'd be better off with an AMD GPU either...

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  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

Damn, that's a shame. Thank you for catching that. I guess I could go down the Fractal Design Kelvin S34 route; 30mm thick radiators there with options to expand (albeit not as cleanly).

Or of course I could mount the radiator of the Predator outside the case with the connection routed into the case at the back (will need a bit of modification).

Dunno really. What have you got in yours?

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