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$700 ish Gaming PC for 12 yr old builder

TNgamer
  • 52 months ago

Please help me configure a gaming pc that my 12 year old son can help build (he really wants to learn) with future upgradability (he only plays elder scrolls and counter strike now) Would like if possible (I'm new to this, tell me if I am going astray): nzxt S340 black case, skylake i5 (1151), modular power 750-850watt for future addons, r9 390 card (r8 if budget doesn't allow), decent gaming keyboard, Microsoft bundle, cd/DVD burner, cool running (air cooled) build. (Do not need monitor). Prefer not to overclock. Can push to $800 if needed. Thanks for your help.

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  • 52 months ago
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What you're asking out of the budget is simply too much. An i5 and 390 requires $500 on their own, and Windows will take another $85.

I did my best to keep up to what you wanted while also having to make a lot of trade-offs for the budget.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor $183.88 @ OutletPC
Motherboard MSI B150M Pro-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $64.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory $34.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $45.88 @ OutletPC
Video Card MSI Radeon R9 380 4GB Video Card $188.99 @ NCIX US
Case Enermax OSTROG ATX Mid Tower Case $42.50 @ Newegg
Power Supply XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $55.99 @ SuperBiiz
Optical Drive LG GH24NSC0 DVD/CD Writer $13.89 @ OutletPC
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) $89.99 @ NCIX US
Keyboard Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse $27.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $749.09
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-25 00:49 EST-0500
  • 52 months ago
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Thanks Fellway- that is really close. I would really love an S340 case if possible and a bit more wattage for future add-ons.

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  • 52 months ago
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Thanks MisterJ. May just buy an external one then. Love the s340 and h440 cases.

  • 52 months ago
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Good questions valiant. I edited the post to reflect- no overclocking, monitor is not needed. Also thanks Fellway. I want future upgradability and a good experience for my future techie son.

  • 52 months ago
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor $213.97 @ OutletPC
Motherboard MSI Z170A PC MATE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $97.98 @ Micro Center
Memory Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory $45.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $49.09 @ OutletPC
Video Card XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card $187.27 @ Newegg
Case Thermaltake Versa H22 ATX Mid Tower Case $37.42 @ Directron
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $76.28 @ Newegg
Optical Drive LG GH24NSC0 DVD/CD Writer $14.86 @ OutletPC
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) $94.80 @ OutletPC
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $877.66
Mail-in rebates -$60.00
Total $817.66
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-25 01:27 EST-0500

Best i can do. This is built to my states 7% sales tax so do adjust accordingly.

Such a tight budget for the wants.

There should be (JUST) enough room power wise for crossfire.

  • 52 months ago
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Thanks Valiant. If I ditch the DVDs/cd burner, can I put all this in an NZXT s340?

  • 52 months ago
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Should be able to but the price will rise by about 30 to 40 dollars.

  • 52 months ago
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Thank you very much for your help!

  • 52 months ago
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Your welcome

  • 52 months ago
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Won't help not raising the price, but what do you think of the Cooler Master N400 cases. They have the bays for internal optical drives and they are a little less expensive than the NZXT S340. I couldn't squeeze it in on my build option AND keep it as close to $700 as I managed.

  • 52 months ago
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Okay. NZXT 340 black will not work with an internal optical drive. Stated desired parts will not work within budget.

I had to really make some changes to make this as close as I did. It will be a good project that can be upgraded in the future. Note that there will be no way for overclocking (maybe BCLK?) which I know you said you wasn't interested in doing anyway. The PSU is as cheap as I will even think of going, and that still required a drop in delivered power. The GPU was lowered to a 2GB r9 380 (there currently is no r8 series GPUs.)

at 1080p, you should be able to play most games without much issue.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor $183.88 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock B150M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $60.98 @ Newegg
Memory G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory $34.99 @ Newegg
Storage Toshiba Product Series:DT01ACA 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $39.99 @ NCIX US
Video Card PowerColor Radeon R9 380 2GB PCS+ Video Card $169.99 @ Newegg
Case Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case $36.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $44.99 @ Newegg
Optical Drive LG GH24NSC0 DVD/CD Writer $13.89 @ OutletPC
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) $89.99 @ NCIX US
Keyboard Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse $25.59 @ SuperBiiz
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $701.28
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-25 01:43 EST-0500
  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks Wolf. I appreciate your help

  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

Price includes shipping on everything, No MIR's.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor $199.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard ASRock H110M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $51.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $34.99 @ Newegg
Storage PNY CL4111 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $64.99 @ Newegg
Video Card PowerColor Radeon R9 380 2GB PCS+ Video Card $169.99 @ Newegg
Case DIYPC Cuboid-B MicroATX Mini Tower Case $59.79 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $69.99 @ Amazon
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer $14.98 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) $94.53 @ Amazon
Keyboard Thermaltake Commander Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Laser Mouse $29.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $791.23
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-25 03:52 EST-0500

It doesn't make sense to buy an 850W PSU unless you also buy a motherboard that has a PCIE switch that supports an 8X / 8X PCIE configuration mapped to the CPU's PCIE controller for dual GPU's. Motherboards that support this, start at $125. That's a $75 + $20-30 (PSU) price premium just to buy a dual GPU upgrade path that will probably never be used. That's over 10% of the budget going towards "what-if" rather than just buying a nicer build right now. By the time these "upgrade paths" start being fulfilled by most people, they are faced with the brutal reality that newer technology is out. Those upgrade paths suddenly don't look very good anymore when faced with competing new technologies.

It doesn't make sense to be building with the idea of a dual GPU upgrade path unless we start with at bare minimum, an R9 390 / GTX970, cards which we know won't fit in this budget anyway.

I don't think it pays to "buy" upgrade paths at this budget. A lot of computer builders make the mistake of thinking that they are "investing" in a computer by buying upgrade paths. The result, is typically a very expensive motherboard, PSU, and case, filled with mediocre CPU/GPU/RAM/Drives that never actually wind up being upgraded. The years go by, the machine depreciates into mediocrity, and the upgrade paths no longer look useful compared to just replacing the machine. Had the same money been spent up front, on better CPU/GPU instead of upgrade paths, the user would have appreciated superior compute and visual quality performance through the life of the machine, and likely a longer lived build.

  • 52 months ago
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Thank you very much. That was great advice. Very very appreciated.

  • 52 months ago
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For one what would you consider to be the absolute maximum you would spend?

Also do you need a monitor and or mouse?

Is overclocking something you and your son may consider as well?

  • 52 months ago
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He stated no monitor needed.

  • 52 months ago
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I asked before he edited the post.

  • 52 months ago
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No prob.

  • 52 months ago
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Fwiw. I edited that after Valiant asked for future responders (my fault, not Valiants)

  • 52 months ago
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No prob. Edit times are not reflected in the posts unless you add them.

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