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Please help. The options are driving me insane.

shesclueless

38 months ago

Options are great. But when you don't know about hardware conflicts or incompatibilities, it can be a bit overwhelming. I got a great build suggestion here and I have slowly started purchasing the parts needed. I inquired on the quality of the motherboard because I found conflicting reviews and wanted to make sure that I make a good purchase. The issue with the fan ports and adequate cooling came up - so a fan controller was suggested. But how do I know if the fan will fit my case? Does this affect the other parts that I've decided on? I'm so, so lost.

Long story short, my son wants to build a gaming system. I'm happy to support this idea but I want to make sure we have all the right pieces and I want to make sure that the system is solid. I have a budget of $900-$1000. He likes the cases with the clear panels and wants to integrate LCD lighting to be a fancy pants. Besides that, we're hoping to keep everything in a compact case.

I would be grateful if someone could have a look at my list and give suggestions on any issues you may foresee.

TL;DR : $900-$1000 budget. Are these parts adequate for a solid gaming system?

CPU : Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/xwhj4D/intel-cpu-bx80662i56500)

Motherboard : Gigabyte GA-B150M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/my4NnQ/gigabyte-motherboard-gab150mds3h)

Fan Controller : (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dQ8Zxr/nzxt-fan-controller-acsen3b1)

Memory : GeIL SUPER LUCE 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/wd98TW/geil-memory-glw416gb3000c15adc)

Storage : Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/rrvZxr/crucial-mx300-275gb-25-solid-state-drive-ct275mx300ssd1)

Storage : Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/MwW9TW/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex)

Video Card : Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/7RKhP6/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-windforce-oc-6g-video-card-gv-n1060wf2oc-6gd)

Case : Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Acrylic ATX Mid Tower (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/vVwqqs/phanteks-case-phes515pabk)

Power Supply : SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/TgW9TW/seasonic-power-supply-m12ii520bronze)

Operating System : Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (http://pcpartpicker.com/product/wtgPxr/microsoft-os-kw900140)

Comments

  • 38 months ago
  • 1 point

It looks mostly fine to me, though I do have a couple suggestions.

First is the PSU. I'd suggest one of these three, which all perform either on par or better than the M12ii. 450W is more than enough for this list, so you won't need to worry about that. I did try to stay within the same budget range as your choice, but a super solid PSU is never a bad thing if you're willing to pay for it: http://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/FQ648d,3hkwrH,Xgwqqs/

Second is the ram. The set you chose is good, but the higher clock speed is wasted money since the b150 chipset (from the motherboard you chose) only supports up to 2133MHz. I'd suggest one of these three sets, as they offer the best price for 16gb of ram with good specs: http://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/PL2rxr,yRkwrH,jzfmP6/

And separately, I'd encourage you to look into the Phanteks P400 (or P400s). It's a really solid case that has integrated LED lighting, with the option to add an interior LED strip to match (and it has the hookups and controllers all needed for that too)

  • 38 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you so much for your response! I really appreciate it.

In regards to the higher clock speed being wasted money, would the alternative ram option you suggested be better than an improved motherboard?

I actually do have a Phantek case on my list so I'll take another look at that. I think the size was a tad bigger than I was hoping for. But I'll definitely take another look.

  • 38 months ago
  • 1 point

I'd say the higher clock ram would be worth it if you want to overclock. Otherwise, sticking with the b150 is fine.

If the phanteks case you had looked at is big, then it is probably the Enthoo Pro. It is definitely big. There are also standard mid tower versions, the Enthoo Pro M and Pro M Acrylic. The Acrylic has a huge acrylic side panel that looks super nice. It's also a great option.

  • 38 months ago
  • 1 point

I agree with fell ways suggestions and would have also recommended a case with integrated lighting.

I'd however recommend this PSU as it's very highly rated by PSU testers, is fully modular and comes with a 10 year warranty

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/qYTrxr/evga-power-supply-220g20550y1

  • 38 months ago
  • 1 point

It's a great supply, don't get me wrong. I love it like it's my own child. It just isn't always necessarily worth investing in all the time. Since the build isn't overclocking, the stringent regulation and ripple of the G2 aren't really necessary. So it's probably smarter overall to put that money into other components (or the lighting, for example) as long as the alternative PSU is at least good (like the suggestions I made).

  • 38 months ago
  • 1 point

I agree I'm just thinking that it could do for when he upgrades down the line as he gets more money and he can use it in a second build with it still under warranty. :)

Up to OP whether to make that investment but your suggestions are valid and the integrated lighting makes the job of making it look cool a lot easier.

  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

As we're getting very far into a sub-tree in the forum thread, a new post.

I was wrong on the monitors it seems, Displayport isn't commonly offered at the budget 1080p end so it would be a good choice, I have put two others in a selection which are also highly rated budget gaming monitors.

I have put your build into a part list to make it easier to look at and quantify.

I have changed your motherboard for one that has a few more features including a better audio chip, better network controller, support for SATA express and an m.2 running n PCIe x4. It also supports RAID, has more system fan headers, and has extra USB headers internally.

I also chose the Phanteks P400S case HC review it looks great, has the integrated lighting and is very quiet.

Another case to consider: NZXT H440 Razer Edition - This would go very well with the keyboard and mouse!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor $194.88 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler $34.88 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-H170M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $89.88 @ OutletPC
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory $79.99 @ NCIX US
Storage Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $69.95 @ SuperBiiz
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $49.49 @ OutletPC
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB D5 6G Video Card $254.98 @ Newegg
Case Phanteks ECLIPSE P400S ATX Mid Tower Case $54.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $62.99 @ SuperBiiz
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $84.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor *Acer H236HLbid 23.0" 60Hz Monitor $110.98 @ Newegg
Keyboard Razer Blackwidow X Chroma Wired Gaming Keyboard $159.99 @ B&H
Mouse Razer DeathAdder Chroma Wired Optical Mouse $51.79 @ Newegg
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $1319.68
Mail-in rebates -$20.00
Total $1299.68
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-01 18:58 EDT-0400
  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you for doing this. I appreciate it.

Could you just help me out on a couple questions? With this suggested motherboard I don't need to worry about the fan controller and would just need to get the one additional fan as suggested with the Cryorig H7?

You also mentioned you included two other monitor selections that are highly rated budget monitors? But I didn't see it...unless I misunderstood that statement.

  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

The fan controller can't be fit in that case and isn't really needed as there is one built into the case and/or you connect the fans to the motherboard so that the motherboard can control them. This motherboard has more system fan headers (ports to plug the fan cable in).

The cyrorig is a suggestion. It would be quieter and more effective at cooling the CPU than the Intel stock cooler that comes with the processor.

Above my list in my post, if you click the 'PCPartPicker part list' that is highlighted in blue that will take you to the list.

If you then look at the monitor you will see under that it says 'from a paramedic selection'. That should also be in blue. From that it is selecting the cheapest of the 3 highly rated budget gaming monitors I was talking about.

  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

I'd actually suggest the M9i as a replacement to stock. It's super quiet and cools more than enough for stock. Plus it's under 20 bucks.

I can support the case suggestion, as my current build is inside of the p400s. It is nice and quiet, and the fan controller is a nice touch (though it's tough to find some of the plugins for the fans that aren't preinstalled...). I was impressed by the ease of building within the case, having come from using the behemoth that is the Air 540 and using a nonmodular PSU.

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  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

OP and her son have specified the list they were looking at, I put it into a more friendly view point.

Additionally, OP listed out the peripherals that they favoured, which I incorporated into the part list I put together.

Finally, they already had purchased the PSU so that's why its in the build.

From reading the thread I don't think overclocking is in mind for them. As for the video card, its an either/or decision. RX 480 will outperform GTX 1060 in some games, the GTX 1060 will crush the RX 480 in others (Direct X 11 games and older). GTX 1060 has 6GB of VRAM but is $50 $25 more expensive (prices have moved, cheapest RX480 is now $210 and cheapest 1060 6GB is $235).

The RX480 you selected only has 4GB of VRAM and uses a more power and is noisier as AMD cards generally run hotter.

Its up to OP or her son to choose what they want to go with, they're both solid cards.

  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks to everyone who posted. I really, really appreciate the help and the explanations behind your suggestions. This really is a great community!

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  • 37 months ago
  • 1 point

All very good points, I personally would get a cheaper keyboard too but just went with there selection and put there parts together, it wasn't my build as such. Like you I would go with the 6600k as well.

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