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Hollow_118 6 months ago

I'm new to pc, i have done some research but still uncertain about my judgement on parts. Price is not a problem, but i just don't want buy everything that is the most expensive if i don't require it. i just want a pc for work/school and gaming mainly to able to play any game with no issue plus with high resolution. Also Thank You for you taking the time in reading my message.

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ProbablyProdigy 2 Builds 1 point 6 months ago

What's high resolution to you? 1080, 1440 or 4K? Do need peripherals like a keyboard, mouse and monitor as well? What kind of games do you play?

If money isn't a problem, this would destroy just about everything you throw at it. I chose a 1440p 144hz monitor and paired it with a GTX 1070. If you want 4K, you would want a GTX 1080TI. If you're fine with 1080p just go with the GTX 1060 because as you can see, the 1070 is almost up to 1000 dollars...

The 144hz monitor is almost a must have if you play a lot of shooters or fast-paced games. I chose a 500gb SSD for your most important programs and games and a 2TB HDD for other stuff. The CPU is a 6-core which will be great if you do any photo/video editing and rather intense things like that. It'll also be good for the near future. I chose a 650w PSU in case you ever upgrade and 16GB of RAM should do you just fine.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor $219.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler $29.90 @ Newegg Marketplace
Thermal Compound Arctic Silver - 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste $6.85 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Asus - STRIX X370-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard $176.98 @ Newegg
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $204.99 @ Amazon
Storage Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $139.99 @ B&H
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $59.99 @ Newegg
Video Card MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card $789.89 @ OutletPC
Case NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $49.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $95.88 @ OutletPC
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $89.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor Dell - S2716DG 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor $459.00 @ Amazon
Keyboard Corsair - K65 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard $83.94 @ Amazon
Mouse Corsair - M65 PRO RGB FPS Wired Optical Mouse $49.98 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $2522.26
Mail-in rebates -$65.00
Total $2457.26
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-14 14:09 EST-0500
Hollow_118 submitter 1 point 6 months ago

Well i want a dependable pc that can run any game, i can throw at it just so i can feel conformable. the only 2 games i have in mind for now is Elders Scrolls Online and Final Fantasy 14 Online. The resolution i would really like to enjoy the high end 4k resolution and a water cool system and does any keyboards or mouse matter im still new i seen some high speed mouses with more buttons than a freaking keyboard lol. Also money i really its not problem, but im concern if i should wait for the new 2018 cpu, graphic cards ,and other goodies coming out since typically their better or it really doesn't matter and Thank you for helping me.

ProbablyProdigy 2 Builds 1 point 6 months ago

Well the build I had posted will definitely crush those games. If it's 4k your after, I would just find a good 4k monitor that you want but you'll definitely need that 1080 graphics card if you want a good frame rate. I would definitely look into what Xxplosive posted below, the new CPUs won't be much of a difference considering CoffeeLake pretty much came out not too long ago but as far as the new Volta GPUs go, that might be something to consider waiting for but I would imagine those cards will be very high in price considering the mining craze going on right now. GPUs and RAM pricing are outrageous right now.. But if you have the dough, get the 1080ti. That has 11GB of video ram onboard so for 4K, you'll definitely be getting at least 60fps. For 1440p, you'd probably be well over 100fps but it's hard to say -- I don't have experience with 1080ti's. I can tell you that my 1060 plays 1080p ultra well over 60fps on most games that I play but it definitely could not handle 4K whatsoever.

Hollow_118 submitter 1 point 6 months ago

Thank you, Also how long do usually it takes for the new one to come out if you know if not its ok cause i have time till may or june cause im in Europe for work until i get back to the usa.

Hollow_118 submitter 1 point 6 months ago

i seen people with 4 GTX 1080TI and 4 memory cards in their mother board why do they need so many don't they just need one ?

Xxplosive 3 Builds 1 point 6 months ago

All the 1080 Ti cards seem out of stock or overpriced. You should wait until stock is better and prices normalize or just wait until the new NVIDIA Volta cards come out. Maybe you can get a GTX 1180 Ti or something. If it's anything like past 80 Ti cards then it would have similar performance to the Titan V which is crazy fast. That might be a long wait though. It could be several months. I don't see a point in waiting for new CPUs/motherboards. The current options are great enough and anything new would have tiny improvements. There is also the problem of early adopter problems. I like to buy things after they have been out a while. That way motherboards have been bios updated many times and graphics cards have had their issues discovered/fixed.

I picked the Logitech G502. It's a great mouse that I use myself. The mice with tons of buttons are for MMO gaming for casting spells quickly etc. They could also be used for setting up macros. You might like it. I find the extra buttons annoying and ugly. The G502 is excellent.

A single 1080 Ti can handle 4K pretty good. There isn't much point to getting more. Most games don't support SLI and even sometimes get worse performance with more than one card. The only reason for three or four cards these days would be something like Octane rendering or mining. It's pointless for gaming.

The Z370 platform only supports single and dual channel. It's best to get a 2x8GB kit for dual channel. Some chipsets like X299 support up to quad channel which would be four sticks of RAM. Some people get four sticks for dual channel systems anyway just for looks. That can get in the way of future memory expansion though. That isn't a problem if you start out with all the RAM you will ever need and 16GB is perfect for a high end gaming system. You could actually go down to 8GB if on a tight budget. Many games recommend 16GB for the best experience. That's mostly because people tend to have many background programs running while gaming.

This is an IPS 4K 60Hz monitor. There are more expensive options with G-Sync and/or ultrawide with 100Hz. There are even 144Hz 4K monitors coming. You wouldn't get much more than 60 FPS at 4K in many titles. This BenQ is pretty nice at around half the price of more expensive options. I seen an even cheaper LG 4K IPS that is about $350. I like this BenQ more because it has 300 brightness. The cheaper LG only had 250 brightness. This BenQ also has a very adjustable sturdy stand.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor $379.00 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $147.49 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard Asus - ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $196.89 @ OutletPC
Memory G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $209.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $139.99 @ B&H
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $59.99 @ Newegg
Video Card Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card $779.99
Case Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $109.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Platinum 850W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $139.99 @ B&H
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit $119.00
Monitor BenQ - BL2711U 27.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor $478.99 @ Amazon
Keyboard Corsair - K70 RGB RAPIDFIRE Wired Gaming Keyboard $127.00 @ Amazon
Mouse Logitech - G502 Proteus Spectrum Wired Optical Mouse $49.99 @ Best Buy
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $2938.29
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-14 15:04 EST-0500

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor $259.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $109.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Asus - Prime Z370-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $161.49 @ SuperBiiz
Memory G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $194.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $89.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $59.99 @ Newegg
Video Card Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card $779.99
Case Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $109.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $83.99 @ SuperBiiz
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit $119.00
Monitor BenQ - BL2711U 27.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor $478.99 @ Amazon
Keyboard G.Skill - Ripjaws KM570 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard $79.99 @ Newegg
Mouse Logitech - G502 Proteus Spectrum Wired Optical Mouse $49.99 @ Best Buy
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $2578.17
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-14 15:11 EST-0500
Hollow_118 submitter 1 point 6 months ago

Also Xxeplosive i don't want to doubt your wisdom but $3000 usa dollars that's it. i thought be t be at least 15,000 or 10,000 lol why is other pc's are expensive?

Xxplosive 3 Builds 1 point 6 months ago

High end workstations can cost much more than gaming PCs. The video card is mostly what determines your 4K performance. Here are some 1080 Ti 4K benchmarks.

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/nvidia-gtx-1080-ti-benchmarks,review-4241.html

Pawacorn 3 Builds 1 point 6 months ago

i just don't want buy everything that is the most expensive if i don't require it. The resolution i would really like to enjoy the high end 4k resolution and a water cool system

You definitely don't need to spend money on an Intel i5/i7 with water cooling for 60Hz 4K gaming if your goal is 60 FPS.

A Ryzen 5 1600 or i3-8350K can easily handle the task for 60 FPS, but the Ryzen would be the best bang for your buck. It even comes with a quality cooler and you don't need to spend any extra on Intel's Z370 chipset or a 3rd party cooler.

The GTX 1080Ti is only for reference. I would wait until prices stabilize to $850 or less, or wait for Nvidia's upcoming Volta card (it would likely be called the GTX 1180Ti).

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor $198.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock - Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard $90.98 @ Newegg
Memory G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $194.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial - MX300 525GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $143.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $59.99 @ Newegg
Video Card EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB FTW3 GAMING iCX Video Card $1299.98 @ OutletPC
Case Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case $75.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $74.98 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full 32/64-bit $109.99 @ B&H
Case Fan Phanteks - PH-F140XP_BK 85.2 CFM 140mm Fan $17.88 @ OutletPC
Case Fan Phanteks - PH-F140XP_BK 85.2 CFM 140mm Fan $17.88 @ OutletPC
Monitor Samsung - U28E590D 28.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor $339.99 @ Amazon
Keyboard Corsair - K66 Wired Gaming Keyboard $59.99 @ Amazon
Mouse Corsair - KATAR Wired Optical Mouse $19.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $2745.40
Mail-in rebates -$40.00
Total $2705.40
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-15 14:24 EST-0500