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tragiktimes101 8 months ago

So, due to some recent life changing events I have been trying to figure out what I want to do with my life. My employment recently became far less stable than I would like, and I need to sure up my stability. So, after speaking with my wife yesterday, I think I have come to the decision to join the Air Force. I have had several friends that have served in the Air Force, and am trying to get ahold of them for advice and what to look out for. I'm hoping to join as a Lieutenant II since I have my degree. But, I may only be able to join as an E-5 Staff Sergeant (Actually, it will be an E-3 Airman First Class). Does anyone here have any advice about joining the military in general or the Air Force in specific?

EDIT: So, I decided to contact the recruiter tonight. I will be setting up an interview with them for hopefully a couple of days from now.

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lodie187u 1 Build 3 points 8 months ago

The military is an amazing place to be in. You many many opportunities to learn and grow as a person, but remember the military life isnt for everyone. I did my time in the army and dont regret one bit of it. Its been about 3 years since ive been out and i wish i could go back but alas my disability wont allow me to. I always recommend people to go in as an officer if possible because life is much different and pay is alot nicer.

floridaboz 4 Builds 2 points 8 months ago

I could answer most questions about that, but it is hard to say what to "look out for" to be honest. As you may or may not know, i am prior Air Force myself, however, i am sure there has been a lot of changes since i been in. If you do go in as Enlisted, remember your basic training might be brutal just because of the heat in Lackland Air Force if you end up going in during the summer. I got out in 2001, so i dont know what they have changed.

tragiktimes101 submitter 1 Build 2 points 8 months ago

Well, I figure if I sign up around mid-summer, DEP might take long enough that I go in near the end of summer for BMT. But, I'm honestly not sure which I would prefer to deal with more, the heat or the cold. My buddy went with the last group of the season that received summer gear and said he froze his *** off.

floridaboz 4 Builds 2 points 8 months ago

Sometimes the heat or cold is the hardest thing you will deal with. The reason i say that, is everyone has to be uniform, so if you feel to cold, but others do not, you do not really have the option to add extra layers of clothes. However you will be spending most your time inside, You will do PT and marching outside, so honestly it might not be to bad.

tragiktimes101 submitter 1 Build 3 points 8 months ago

So, I decided to take the plunge. I am meeting with the recruiter Tuesday to start the process.

floridaboz 4 Builds 1 point 8 months ago

Good luck to you man. I hope the best for you, if you ever have any questions, feel free to message me, i will get back with you as soon as i can

tragiktimes101 submitter 1 Build 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah, I'm one of those people that don't really love hot or cold, lol. So, either way it's going to suck some.

PCPPAccountant 2 points 8 months ago

That's awesome man, congrats!

Nullarc77 3 Builds 2 points 8 months ago

If you want a steady job that pays well join the Air Force. If you want to serve your country then join the military lol. Both my Grandfathers were in the Air Force and I have a friend who was too.

I advise looking into the Marine Corps or Coast Guard before the Navy, Air Force, Or Army. But that is me. If you are looking for a steady job where you will be able to stay close to your family then the Air Force is a good option, But the Coast Guard is also a good option if you want to be able to shoot at drug smugglers. Also if you go Coast Guard and become an Officer then you will likely be the Captain of a small cutter within 2 years as a Lieutenant JG. But if you don't want the action and just a steady well paying job then the Air Force is a good option.

But, I may only be able to join as an E-5 Staff Sergeant

The only time I have heard of this happening is when people have been in the military before. If you go Enlisted you will likely be an E-1 or maybe E-2. In some jobs like Nuclear engineers it is common for one to graduate OCS as a First Lieutenant. And in the Navy Doctors are often promoted directly to Lieutenant. But seriously if you want to stay near your family the Coast Guard is probably your best option, Since they won't be able to send you over seas, Because that would defeat the purpose of the Coast Guard.

And also as others have said the Navy would love your degree and they generally treat people with solid degrees very well.

tragiktimes101 submitter 1 Build 1 point 8 months ago

The only time I have heard of this happening is when people have been in the military before.

Actually, it's common when you have a certain amount of college credits. Generally, when joining with a bachelors degree, you start as a Lieutenant II.

TBH, the Navy is completely out of my interest. I still haven't decided if I wanted to go for combat or academics. But, either way, if I want to do combat, I'd rather serve in the Air Force. Or, if I decided academics I'd probably also want to stay Air Force.

While I respect all of the branches of the military, being a grunt just isn't for me.

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 8 months ago

Actually, it's common when you have a certain amount of college credits. Generally, when joining with a bachelors degree, you start as a Lieutenant II.

Well that is common. Most officers start there when they are just out of college. But I haven't heard of it happening when somebody is enlisted. And most enlisted don't even make E-5 till 8-10 years of service. With your degree you should be able to apply to OCS fairly easily and get in.

Zeromus725 1 point 8 months ago

Nullarc77 aren’t you like 16?

and why are you in my phone’s autocorrect list?

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 8 months ago

15 Your point?

Zeromus725 1 point 8 months ago

That was actually just an excuse to ask the question in smaller text. (I’m also 15, so no offense is being given if that’s what you’re asking)

tragiktimes101 submitter 1 Build 1 point 8 months ago

UPDATE: Read topic edit.

Adrew24 1 Build 1 point 8 months ago

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't e4 senior airman?

tragiktimes101 submitter 1 Build 1 point 8 months ago

No, you are right. It was a mistype on my part.

WaterTriber 1 point 8 months ago

make sure you are fit.

Wolfemane 7 Builds 1 point 8 months ago

Air Force is a good career move. One I honestly wish I had made many years ago. Wish you luck dude!

Chuck38 3 Builds 1 point 8 months ago

Sounds like a good plan. Best of luck to you!

EagleByte 1 Build 1 point 8 months ago

It's the best military branch out there! I can say so from experience. You'll love it here, I'm sure.

What are you looking into doing in the Air Force?

Take luck! (it's an inside joke)

tragiktimes101 submitter 1 Build 1 point 8 months ago

While I don't know if I'll be able to do it, I'm going to try and pass the PAST and CCT qualification.

EagleByte 1 Build 1 point 8 months ago

Okay. Those look to be good things to pass.

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tragiktimes101 submitter 1 Build 3 points 8 months ago

Chair force!

Air Force PJ's, CCT, JTAC, SOWT, TACP, EOD, and SERE operators / specialists might have a bit to say about that, lol.

Prob work on a sub for 6+months monitoring those nice missles they have inside them...

I have a wife and kid so....not so bueno for me, lol. And, I've had a Navy recruiter annoying me for the last ~10 years since I took the ASVAB about joining their nuclear program. lol, just not my cup of tea.

gorkti200 3 Builds 3 points 8 months ago

The jokes are never ending lol. A friend of mine who was Air Force says its the most corporate of the branches. Also says you'll have the best operational life out of the branches, and you can advance easily if you know how to keep your ego in check and not step on anyone's toes.

For what its worth, I've known others who said they had the best living situation on base, but would travel over to the Army to get tastier food. lol

floridaboz 4 Builds 3 points 8 months ago

Well, this was a several years ago, but the first day i hit my main base, i was put in a dorm room (other branches call it a barracks, but the same. I was put into a room that was around 14, by 20 feet, and i had the room to myself (no roomates). The food at the chow hall was honestly pretty good and when i went out to work out in the missile field, we had one cook for like every 10 people, so we got pretty custom orders. You made some good points, and i am talking from personal experience on this.
Corporate; Yes. you are very correct on this, it is very corporate, but still very political.
Stepping on toes; People learn really fast, that if you step on toes, you will have a bad time, but i think that is any branch.
Advancing quickly; You can if you can take written tests well, a lot of the advancements on lower ranks have a lot to do with how well you can test.
Ego; You go into the military in general with a big ego, pretty sure that in any branch, your going to have a bad time.

floridaboz 4 Builds 2 points 8 months ago

Also if you really wanted to, you can work with nuclear missiles in the Air Force. I did security for Nuclear weapons for 5 years when i was in.

I also worked with PJs overseas and seen them train in Medina. They are no joke at all.

tragiktimes101 submitter 1 Build 2 points 8 months ago

I am considering trying to get stationed in Denver. Not really sure what all there would be job wise to do up there, but I would imagine security around the many nuclear sites would be an option.

floridaboz 4 Builds 2 points 8 months ago

Most of the nuclear work would be 100 miles north of there, in FE Warren and above. Unless you got REALLY LUCKY and could get stationed in Patterson AIr force Base (Or better known to most as Cheyenne Mountain), however that is only a small part of Patterson . But with a little time, and getting your security clearance and PRP. If you earn it, you can do a lot.

EagleByte 1 Build 2 points 8 months ago

Ooo, FE Warren is a pretty good base.

Jackison 1 point 8 months ago

Do you really want to move though? Scott is 2-3hrs away from you now... Just move a bit closer and you can still visit your friends/family from there.

tragiktimes101 submitter 1 Build 1 point 8 months ago

Do you really want to move though?

More than anything, yes.

EagleByte 1 Build 1 point 8 months ago

Don't go to Scott. It's too crowded, and we just moved from there literally 6 moths ago. It's a pretty busy and stressful base. I don't reccommend that as a starter base. Maybe something less extreme. Maybe even something overseas like Morón A.B. in Spain or Spangdahlem in Germany. Both are small bases, and would be great for starting out.

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tragiktimes101 submitter 1 Build 1 point 8 months ago

CCT (Combat Controller) - Perhaps one of the most highly trained special forces units in our military. Train and work alongside special operations units from other branches of our military in a host of different tasks. They are responsible for creating air strips, coordinating air control, and air logistics on the battlefield. I wouldn't want to **** with a CCT operator.

SERE Specialists - Specializing in Search, Evasion, Rescue, and Escape. Some of the most highly trained survivalists in the world. Able to survive in a some of the most hostile environments on Earth. Your *** goes down in a plane, you'll be thankful they trained you.

TACP (Tactical Air Control Party) - Linked up with Army and Marine ground units on the front line. Responsible for coordinating precise air strikes on tactical positions.

SOWT (Special Operations Weather Technician) - Weathermen with guns. They imbed with other special operation units around the globe to accurately predict weather in order to increase the effectiveness of the other military forces.

PJ (Pararescue) - When your *** goes down behind enemy lines in a country we're not even supposed to be in, they are who is going to come and save you. Absolute badasses, and an extremely high mortality rate. It is often stated that either everyone comes back alive, or nobody does.

EOD - Pretty obvious.

Telling you man Navy would prob be your best bet.

Any particular reason why? (genuinely curious)

Also who needs them??? They're not important your country is!

Huh? They're pretty integral in our SOCOM system.

ASVAB score?

96, but was back in 2010. I'll probably do worse now, lol.

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tragiktimes101 submitter 1 Build 2 points 8 months ago

CG ride around on boats?

Hardasses.

Chair force, I don't really have much respect for them. Not exactly putting their lives on the line in terms of military duty.

Don't say that to an Air Force Vietnam vet. We lost far too many UH-1's and planes in Vietnam.

Nullarc77 3 Builds 1 point 8 months ago

Chair force, I don't really have much respect for them.

It is one thing to make jokes about the Air Force as I do IRL very often(Have a friend who was Air Force) But I do respect them. Both of Grandfathers were Air Force, One of them transferred to the Army during the Vietnam war and was a paratrooper. True in the past 20 years their jobs have become a lot less dangerous, But I respect anyone that served(Unless they were dishonorably discharged rightfully)

CG ride around on boats?

As far as the Coast Guard goes they see more action then any other branch. A big part of their job is to kill drug smugglers and keep our boarders secure. If you are in the Coast Guard and stationed in southern California or Texas on a cutter then you will at some point get your literal shot at a drug smuggler. They get shot at more then any other branch. They also save people lives on a daily basis. Tragik described them well. Plus most of them were Marines who wanted the action of being in a war but also wanted to be close to their family. If you want to serve your country in combat but don't want to be away from your family then anyone in the military will say join the Coast Guard. They do more for then country then most people know. And if I had the choice between joining the Marine Corps and joining the Coast Guard I honestly don't know which I would choose. It would come down to if I want to kill drug smugglers or not.