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$100 difference between Ryzen 1700 vs 2700. Yay or nay?

AdreeN

4 months ago

I've crunched the numbers, and have two identical ITX builds with a 2060.

Would you upgrade from a Ryzen 1700 to a 2700 for $100 CAD difference?

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  • 4 months ago
  • 3 points

Short Answer = No.

Long Answer = No.

General Comments: Ryzen 2700 is better than 1700 but it does not make sense to upgrade the 1700 with a 2700. A bit like upgrading a Honda Civic bought in 2017 with 20K miles on clock and replacing with a 2019 Honda Civic but fronting up $5K for the privilege of owning a 2019 Civic.

  • 4 months ago
  • 3 points

2600X makes more sense for gaming performance.

No need to overclock.

No need to pick up fancy cooling or a heavy duty motherboard for overclocking.

Better gaming performance stock than you'll get out of an overclocked 1700, and likely the same or possibly slightly better performance as what you'd get out of an overclocked 2700.

Only reason to opt for the Ryzen 7 would be if you want to do streaming while gaming with a software encoder. Otherwise, the 2600X is the better buy.

Just looking at todays prices... the 2600X is cheaper than either the 1700 or 2700 among vendors shown on PCP.

The i5-9400F is less expensive than any of them right now and will typically out-perform Ryzen chips in most games and conditions. If you're targeting a 144hz performance goal, the 9400F will get you closer to that more often.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

No, I wouldnt.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah as others have said it wouldn't make sense. I would wait till later this year and get one of the 3000 series Ryzen.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

I should have clarified. I am not upgrading an existing computer. I am purchasing one and the difference between having a 2700 vs a 1700 is $100 cad. Change anything?

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Huge performance differences aren't present between these two 8 core AMD processors.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-2700-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700/3957vs3917

As gaming concerns there may be a difference, and mostly because the 2700 runs with a higher boost across the cores and maybe some core architecture advantages, so a better multi-core boosting algorithm, along with improvements to the cache subsystem.

It isn't much as that graph shows below, but the more cores are used the better the performance of the 2700 will be.

It's a ~300MHz greater boost per core. But that adds up the more cores are used.

https://img.purch.com/image1234-png/o/aHR0cDovL21lZGlhLmJlc3RvZm1pY3JvLmNvbS9LL1YvNzczMTY3L29yaWdpbmFsL0ltYWdlMTIzNC5wbmc=

CPU gaming performance differences

https://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_7_2700/images/perfrel_1920_1080.png

CPU performance differences in general

https://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_7_2700/images/perfrel_cpu.png

Now considering the low gaming performance difference and the more substantial price difference between these two Ryzen processors, logic says that the 1700 should be the better deal as performance to price ratio concerns.

A more reasonable step would be, instead of paying ~$250 for the 2700, just choose the 2700X for ~$50 more.

Last but not least, another solution would be the 1700X, but there would be a additional price penalty for a CPU cooler.

The 1700X doesn't include a stock cooler!

On the other side, regardless which 8 core processor you choose (1700, 1700X, 2700), if you have in mind to overclock, you need definitely aftermarket cooler.

The only processor that should be considered as a complete solution out of the Box, is the 2700X.

It does have a decent enough CPU cooler (rated at a TDP rating of 140) and achieves the highest all core boost clock speed out of the box from all available Ryzen processor so far, making it a first grade solution for almost everything.

So yeah a lot to consider i guess. :)

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

I will be overclocking regardless of CPU I get, and aftermarket cooler is a must.

I'm not certain I understand the below graph. According that graph, the 2600x is essentially the perfect product given its 4ghz+ sustained frequency over all threads and it's dirt cheap pricing. How is this interpreted for gaming? https://img.purch.com/image1234-png/o/aHR0cDovL21lZGlhLmJlc3RvZm1pY3JvLmNvbS9LL1YvNzczMTY3L29yaWdpbmFsL0ltYWdlMTIzNC5wbmc=

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

According that graph, the 2600x is essentially the perfect product given its 4ghz+ sustained frequency over all threads and it's dirt cheap pricing.

Yes the 2600X as a 6 core processor has the highest all core boost, and the same excellent results applies to the 8 core 2700X.

How is this interpreted for gaming?

https://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_7_2700X/images/perfrel_1920_1080.png

Not much of a difference between the 2600X and the 2700X.

For the reason that no game out there needs 16 logical cores to run decently.

Also for what's worth, the 2700X overclocked may run a bit slower than running with out of the box PB2 speeds.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm currently deciding between 1700 vs 2600x vs 2700. 1700 & 2600x are the same price, while the 2700 is $90~ more expensive for the same build.

I'm only really concerned about gaming for the next 2-3 years with ultra/high settings @1080p 144hz

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

The 2600X would suffice.

12 logical cores are enough for today games.

https://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_2600X/images/perfrel_1920_1080.png

That's what i would do anyway. :)

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

Get info on the motherboard in that case. B450 or X470, then go for the Ryzen 7 2700.

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