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(Nearly) Frameless Monitors (Multi-Monitor Support)

johnwaskins

77 months ago

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236307

VN247H-P

Anyone else want to recommend other monitors to this category?

(anyone have other such monitors that have DVI connectivity options, or maybe DisplayPort?)

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  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

Remember that shows it GTG, not regular.

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes, but most monitors that show anything less than 3ms is almost always GTG. A 2ms GTG is really fast, even in GTG. 1ms is absurdly fast.

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

From what I understand and have read, you only benefit from DVI if your using 3D mode or 120mhz+ screens. This monitor doesn't have either feature so it's prolly why it isn't included.

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

Actually, DVI connectors are commonplace. You find 2 in GTX 600 series video cards. You don't need it to be dual-link DVI, single link also exists.

It's the dual-link DVI that allows for 120Hz+ monitors. DisplayPort also allows 120Hz+ monitors.

A monitor with just a D-Sub connector can't even run 1080p @ 60Hz.

This is why DVI connectors and DisplayPort are so good. HDMI doesn't have to be the only connector.

More flexibility = better. This allows you to take advantage of something like a GTX 670. With 2x DVI connectors, a DisplayPort connector and an HDMI connector, you can connect four of these monitors together.

Why not take advantage of that?

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

I think its a cost-benefit ratio. ASUS is saving money on not paying royalties to DVI for not including that connection and thus keeping the cost down.

For the few people that do multiple monitors, there are other monitors out there with DVI but cost more, or cut back on some other feature to keep it at a certain price point.

  • 76 months ago
  • 1 point

D-Sub is commonplace. But it includes HDMI (which does include paying royalties), DVI (doesn't pay royalties), and DisplayPort (doesn't pay royalties).

Honestly, it's not about cost or value. ASUS made a great monitor, great value, lot's of connectivity, nearly frameless. It isn't 3D, it isn't 120Hz+, but it's perfect for multi-monitor setup.

And it's priced well enough to give more value than a 1440p monitor.

And with a triple VESA monitor stand, you can stack these monitors together easily.

Like this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824994002

And putting these monitors vertically, making it 3240 x 1920 (or 3x 1080p monitors, vertically oriented, instead of horizontally, in a 27:16 ratio, which is roughly between 16:10 and 16:9 ratios (proportionally).

It really depends on what you want out of your setup. I'd say it's the setup of my dreams, and with SLI it might offer playable framerates for the games I want to play.

  • 75 months ago
  • 1 point

That is an awesome monitor, I must admit. But you can't turn it sideways for multi-monitor support, or stack them vertically (well, at least).

Although it is 5ms response time, IPS Panel, and 27 inches in size, I think it's still a bit overpriced; if it were 310$, it would be much more competitive.

  • 75 months ago
  • 1 point

Some other (nearly) frameless monitors:

Dell S2340M Black 23" 7ms:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824260109

ASUS MX239H Silver / Black 23" 5ms

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236310

Acer H236HLbid Black 23" 5ms

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009483

HP Pavilion 23xi Black / Silver 23" 7ms

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824176424

Dell P2312H Black 23" 5ms

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824260062

AOC i2367Fh Black / Silver 23" 5ms

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824160158

Dell S2340L Black 23" 7ms

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824260105

NEC Display Solutions EX231W-BK 23" 5ms

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824002574


Hope these monitors help you in future multi-monitor setups, be those IPS setups or TN panel setups, be them those famous 5760 x 1080 setup, or a sideways 3240 x 1920 setup.

Gentlemen, pick you weapons. Game on.

  • 71 months ago
  • 1 point

What monitor listed here has the thinnest bezel?

  • 71 months ago
  • 1 point

Out of the ones listed here, I think these offer some of the thinnests bezels:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005406

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005405

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005407

Personally, I think the first monitor I've just listed (LG 23EA63V-P) has the thinnest bezel of them add, and it still gaming-grade.

However, if you're looking for a 1ms, you won't have an IPS screen. I'd say the VN247H-P.

If you're looking for a cheaper monitor (better for multi-monitor support), I'd say this guy is best: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009483

Although I think you could still go well this this guy: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009484

So, to wrap it up:

Thinnest bezel of any IPS 5ms monitor: LG 23EA63V-P (worth it around 200$ or less)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005406

Thinnest bezel of any sub-2ms TN-panel monitor: ASUS VN247H-P (worth it around 180$)

Best deal for value of any thin bezel 5ms IPS monitor: Acer H226HQLbid (worth it around or below 160$)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009484

  • 71 months ago
  • 1 point

How thin is the lg one?

  • 71 months ago
  • 1 point

Well, I'm looking on YouTube as I write this. Apparently, it's 11mm thick. The pictures are indeed misleading, at least as shown in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS96RjxxU7A

However, mind you; 11mm is still really thin.

But due to the misleading pictures and marketing, I'd like to point out that you might help LG change it's marketing by going with one of the Acer monitors instead. The 23" acer monitor did seem nice. But the 21.5/22 inch monitor is also quite interesting. The price difference didn't seem that big; 160$ vs. 180$. You're getting a little bit extra size, which can help you put the monitor a bit further from your face, which makes viewing less tiring and more enjoyable. Anyways, hope that helps.

  • 71 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks :D

  • 75 months ago
  • 1 point

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/acer-monitor-umvh6aa003 IPS 5ms with a Small frame. Would be my first choice for 23"

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005407 Another IPS 5ms. Would be my choice for 27"

  • 75 months ago
  • 1 point

Those are nice, but they're still 5ms GTG, not 5ms native.

They're nice for an IPS Multi-Monitor setup, but not for a gaming-multi-monitor setup. Thanks for the links. n.n

  • 75 months ago
  • 1 point

I was actually considering getting the Acer's down the road for gaming. Would it be extremely noticeable?

I have been using http://pcpartpicker.com/part/acer-monitor-etds0hpa01 X3 and an old http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824176079 . If it the same refresh I could live with it. If not, well back to the drawing board.

  • 75 months ago
  • 1 point

Well... uuhhh, a higher resolution is much better for gaming, professional work, etc.

Try getting a 1080p monitor. If gaming is important, look for anything with 2ms GTG response time, or a TN Panel monitor with 5ms (non-GTG) response time.

  • 75 months ago
  • 1 point

Its Ok to laugh. I call my rig Frankenstien for a reason. It is made up of many parts off dead PCs and soul-crushing budgets. I have some parts in it pushing 5 years of use now, some bought 2 years ago, some bought last year. That HP monitor is one of the oldest parts I have.

I have the 1600x900 Acers because I needed something cheap quickly for work for a 3 month project. They were on sale for $89.99 so I bought 2. The project ended and I liked having multiple monitors so much, I bought a 3rd one to try out Eyefinity for the first time. Turns out my PC probably couldn't handle more than 4800X900 due to all the outdated parts so the Acers worked fine.

I have wanted better monitors for a while, but I need a new CPU/MB/Ram so that will come first unless I hit the lottery. Thanks for your opinion on the IPS monitors. Back to the drawing board.

  • 75 months ago
  • 1 point

Actually, although motherboard and CPU are important, for graphics, you want to invest on a good graphics card.

I'd say, go with an HD 7950 by GIGABYTE, for around 300$. It's the biggest bang for your buck, if you plan on going for a multi-monitor setup.

For a new CPU, maybe you should go with an i5 3570 (Non-K, if you don't plan on overclocking, because most games don't benefit from overclocking anyways), DDR3 1600 RAM @ 1.5V @ CAS 9.

Motherboard... try ASRock Extreme 4 Z77, or ASUS P8Z77-V LK.

  • 71 months ago
  • 1 point

I can't say enough about this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009484&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID= , I just got it Yesterday and have been gaming on it without issue it's awesome :D, the border isn't as thin as the ASUS you posted but its not an issue as it looks fantastic. Also it comes with DVI, VGA, and HDMI cables in the Box along with Audio out on the monitor itself. Also the small size makes it perfect for 1080p :D

  • 42 months ago
  • 1 point

EIZO FS2434

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