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Modest Gaming Build

by manirelli

NOTE: A more recent version of this guide is available here.

Description

CPU

Our Modest Gaming Build is built around the Ryzen 5 1400. Using the stock cooler you should be able to achieve moderate overclocks on this unlocked processor.

Motherboard

We've paired the R5 1400 with a parametric list of mATX B350 motherboards that supports up to 64GB of DDR4 memory, multiple SATA6 devices, and front panel USB3.0.

Memory

For this build and most machines outside of the top end enthusiast realm we opted to go with 8GB of DDR4 memory. The parametric filter finds the best price on 8GB kits of memory that are within AMD’s recommended specifications. We've limited it to DDR4-2800 and DDR4-3000 as Ryzen CPUs scale well with higher frequency memory. At the current time, using memory rated over 3000mhz is not advised without doing extra research as DIMM support can be hit or miss. AMD is working on releasing additional BIOS updates to add better compatibility for higher frequency memory.

Storage

With the rising cost of SSDs and memory we’re making a new recommendation for storage that is a compromise between real-world performance and cost. The parametric filter selects the best priced Hybrid drive with 2TB or more storage capacity. While the hybrid drives are slower on paper than SSDs, their practical performance for gamers will be similar while allowing significantly more storage space per dollar.

GPU

On an 800 dollar (USD) budget, we suggest using the Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB edition. We specifically filter for the 6GB model as the 3GB not only has lower VRAM but also a lower core count leading to lower fps while gaming. The performance across most games will be similar to the AMD RX 570. We've created a parametric filter to show you the lowest priced, full sized GTX 1060 6GB which will be powerful enough for most AAA games at 1080p.

Case

All of the components are housed in the Fractal Design Focus G Mini MicroATX mid Tower. This case is an affordable option that has a large side panel window, front panel USB3.0, room for full size graphics cards, two LED case fans, and cutouts in the motherboard tray for easy cable routing.

PSU

For our power supply, we're using a parametric selection of well-reviewed fully and semi-modular units, all of which will provide more than enough power for this system.

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Compatibility Check: No issues/incompatibilities found.

Estimated Wattage: 201W
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Motherboard
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  • Form Factor: Micro ATX
  • Chipset: AMD B350
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Memory
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  • Speed: DDR4-2800, DDR4-3000
  • Type: 288-pin DIMM
  • Size: 8GB (2x4GB)
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Storage
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  • Capacity: 480 GB - 12000 GB
  • Type: SSD
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Video Card
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  • Chipset: GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
  • Length: 224 mm - 403 mm
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Case $39.99 $5.99 $45.98 Newegg Business Buy
Power Supply $79.89 -$20.00 FREE $59.89 OutletPC Buy
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Base Total: $668.84
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Shipping: $5.99
Total: $639.83
* Using your selected merchants and only including nearby in-store pickup prices)
* Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.

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PickSixer 24 points 13 months ago

Currently, I think every modest build includes the 6gb 1060.

AS118 8 points 13 months ago

Yeah, it's because equivalent AMD cards get their prices jacked up due to mining.

theniceguy9112 6 points 12 months ago

I opted for the 3gb version. 6gb is still way too overpriced for me to justify the purchase just for a minimal fps gain.

Cannible 1 Build 2 points 12 months ago

The 6gb variant offers a much longer lifespan because of it's increased VRAM. Cards with 4gb or less will soon be phased out by the increasingly VRAM-demanding games.

UpperSleet9961 5 points 12 months ago

Wouldn't you be dying for an upgrade when that happens? I honestly don't think that VRAM would be holding you back in the games of the future. I do think that the actual raw performance would hold you back. I'm a bit sick right now, so if that didn't make sense to anybody then it's probably not your fault.

Cannible 1 Build 1 point 12 months ago

I prefer the 6gb variant because I like ludicrously high amounts of Anti-Aliasing and ultra texture settings. Monitoring my VRAM usage in my favorite games on my regular settings with MSI Afterburner, I saw that I was using 4-5 GB of VRAM in some of the more demanding games I play. Of course, using no or low AA and slightly lower settings, I kept my VRAM usage at 2-3 GB. This won't be a problem for a lot of people, but, for me it is.

UpperSleet9961 1 point 12 months ago

Fair enough. I'm a graphics ***** myself, but I also value money. Also, thanks for the conversation! It's been pretty damn interesting and thought provoking.

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Leigh42 3 points 12 months ago

It's true, newer titles will increasingly be able to exploit more than 4Gb of VRAM, at some sufficiently high detail setting. But on a GTX 1060, by that point the GPU isn't going to be good enough to render the game at any useful frame rate anyway. The 6Gb is certainly worth a 10% premium on the 3Gb card, not because of VRAM but as it has an extra 10% CUDA cores. So for a roughly $200 card, $20ish is a reasonable premium for the 6Gb model. More than that I'm not convinced, even from a future proofing standpoint. You'll run out of GPU power before VRAM, with either card you're still going to have to start turning down the details in about 18 months.

Cannible 1 Build 4 points 12 months ago

Fair point, especially for a large portion of the PC gaming community. I, for one, am planning on keeping the 1060 for longer than 18 months, so I paid the premium for the 6gb one. Still, you're probably right.

redex13 2 points 12 months ago

Hey, would you recommend the 1060 6gb or a 1070? I'm most likely gaming on a 1440 reso. The rest of my setup is the same as the rig above, just debating on the GPU.

Cannible 1 Build 1 point 12 months ago

The 1060 is a good entry-level 1440p GPU, but I definitely wouldn't recommend buying it for 1440p. The 1070 is really the 1440p sweet spot; the 1070 gets near the same FPS at 1440p as a 1060 6gb gets at 1080p. If you will get (or have) a 1440p 60hz monitor, then the 1070 is the best option at the moment. If you get a 1440p 144hz monitor, then maybe invest a bit more in a 1080 to do the monitor justice.

redex13 1 point 12 months ago

Thanks for this :) I have gone with 1070 with 16 gigs ram, and I do have a 1440 monitor at 144hz, but the 1080 is out of my budget for now. I've heard that the monitor will make even lower fps run smoother, hoping thats the truth.

Bobbypdue 1 Build 1 point 12 months ago

Get the best CPU and GPU you can afford. That's pretty much the best way to keep your parts as long as you can.

theniceguy9112 1 point 12 months ago

I agree that the 6gb version will have a longer lifespan than the 3gb card. I opted for the 3 go card because of the cost difference more than anything. I picked up a 3gb card for 180 bucks. The 6gb version sold for over 240. For a 60 dollar swing in price to have 3-5 FPS boost and an extra 6 months of life (given that nVidia is coming out with a new line next year) I went towards a little savings to put it elsewhere in the build.

If this were 2016 there would be no question that I would pick the 6gb card. Also, the 1060 3gb card should really be called the 1050ti. Just my opinion.

Awkward_Virtues 1 point 12 months ago

Reminder that COD: MWR uses over 6GB of VRAM at max settings. Not even 1060 6GB will be enough.

Surgical3ullets 1 point 12 months ago

The 6gb variant has a much longer lifespan. Aswell it can allow you to run more games on higher settings without the graphics card working the **** out of itself. But, if you were to plan on removing it and upgrading it; your answer would be justified.

Lando_Calrizzy 0 points 12 months ago

how do you feel with your purchase? Have you come into any VRAM issues yet?

& if you don't mind me asking, what cpu do you have it coupled with?

MK26 1 point 12 months ago

I don't think they build, they just show you what would be modest. After all, if they had to build all these that would be a bit of cash(but then we have people spending 20,000+).

LeinadKap 1 point 12 months ago

It's a good card.

octa-wow 0 points 12 months ago

A rx 580 I the one I choose

BDPeck5 0 points 12 months ago

Meh, you can get a rx 580 8gb for less than 1060 6gb if you look, buy whatever floats your boat though :)

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fastcjgt3 1 point 12 months ago

obviously both are obsolete, my 9800GTX destroys these cards

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fastcjgt3 1 point 12 months ago

you're obviously forgetting the TITAN ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ which has a built-in space station and 24 48K displays. Including Liquid Nitrogen cooling and a built gigabit ethernet router setup running 10GPBS.

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FrontwardRiver6 19 points 13 months ago

Titan xp= In debt.

injourney 0 points 13 months ago

lol

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Acer1720 2 points 13 months ago

no you need 4 to run it at 30 fps at 144p

ajddavid452 -6 points 13 months ago

are you guys serious? or are you just trolling

bobbybob645 1 point 12 months ago

It's called sarcasm.

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Ya8meman@gmail.com 5 points 14 months ago

it could be a 800 dollar pc if you switched the ssd with a 1 TB hard drive, thou the title is modest gaming build. still...

RohanParhar 8 points 13 months ago

Not saying that you're complaining but this comes to show that you can't please anyone Haha. When he had the originally had a 1 TB Hard Drive, so many people in the comments were complaining about no SSD and calling this a bad built.

Ya8meman@gmail.com 2 points 13 months ago

true

Codibus 2 Builds 9 points 13 months ago

To be fair though, you can go 250 gb 850 evo and a 1 tb WD HD and that would be around 150 and imo better overall.

AS118 2 points 13 months ago

I split the difference and go with a 1 TB SSHD. Basically a magnetic hard drive with an SSD cache to speed things up. I got a Seagate one as my main drive, and it works pretty well.

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manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 4 points 13 months ago

Please keep feedback polite and constructive.

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NWhite4720 5 points 13 months ago

I saw some benchmarks with Ryzen CPUs w/ DDR4-2133, 2666 and 3200 RAM paired with the 1060 6GB, and there was a negligible 1-3 FPS increase in all of the games tested (about 10 were tested) between DDR4-2133 and DDR4-3200. Ryzen doesn't seem to benefit with higher RAM speeds with mid-tier graphics cards like the 1060, so I would personally save the money and just get the cheapest 8GB kit for (1x8 or 2x4, whichever is cheaper since Ryzen CPUs aren't APUs) on the motherboard's qualified vendor list.

FrontwardRiver6 4 points 13 months ago

Ryzen benefits well with dual-channel memory. so a 2x4 is the better option. =)

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 3 points 13 months ago

dual channel almost makes no difference in gaming. On intel AND AMD

Acer1720 6 points 13 months ago

not in gaming but in productive task such as video edit it benifits from dual channel

tragiktimes101 1 Build 1 point 12 months ago

Well, this is a modest "gaming" build.

Robertbert 1 Build 2 points 13 months ago

Source other than personal benchmark? Not challenging for fun, serious question.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 6 points 13 months ago

https://youtu.be/PsabLhyb1RI It makes a tiny difference. Go for whatever is cheaper for you

TotallyRadical 0 points 12 months ago

Sadly, that is not true for Ryzen.

That benchmark is on an intel CPU, where yeah, it doens't make much of a difference, but ram in Ryzen is different because of the Infinity Fabric that makes Ryzen special. In the case of Ryzen, Ram matters more than a mere few fps, both ram speed and /especially/ whether dual or single (because of the increase in possible bandwidth).

As an example here are a couple benchmarks, some CPU bound, on a ryzen with different ram speeds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Yt4vSZKVk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G80uG3acg44

Those are from notable youtubers, so the data can be trusted. The consensus is that ram speeds matter a lot more on Ryzen than it has before, and while it's not the end-all-be-all, it makes a noteworthy difference. Spring for the dual sticks if you can, since they're usually the same price or a bit less.

526christian 6 points 13 months ago

Not Lobsterareawesome, but it actually can play a decent role when you aren't GPU-bound. The benchmarks he linked are GPU-bound the vast majority of the time so are arguably misleading.

https://pcpartpicker.com/forums/topic/240996-ram-and-its-effects-in-games-redux

See the relevant section.

Dual vs single-channel configurations in gaming is a question of how much you care about CPU-bound performance, i.e. the maximum framerates achievable. It's also a question of what games you play, since every one will respond differently to different methods of improving main memory subsystem performance when CPU + memory bound. If you know you are going to spend most of the time GPU-bound, even in the future, channel configs or anything else related to main memory performance isn't much of an issue.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

yeah but this is a modest "gaming" build ;)

NWhite4720 1 point 13 months ago

I'd go with 1x8 if you're planning on upgrading later.

CarCat 1 point 13 months ago

Currently that 3000 ram is the cheapest (erm, second cheapest by 1 dollar or so) ram anyways. Soooo...

tragiktimes101 1 Build 3 points 13 months ago

I would have really liked to see a better quality SSD such as the SK Hynix SL308, Crucial MX300, or the Samsung 850 EVO. It just seems like there are better alternatives at nearly the same price point.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 4 points 13 months ago

The SSD selection is parametric and selects the best priced product to make sure all regions have options and that if something goes out of stock there are alternatives shown instead.

tragiktimes101 1 Build 1 point 13 months ago

Is it possible to set it to look for the best price product within 5%? This might keep it budget and not neglect better alternatives within a close price range. For example, the better quality MX300 averages around $10 USD more. Close enough to justify.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

That's not how it works and there is no real way (at the current time) to add a performance score to the drives.

tragiktimes101 1 Build 2 points 13 months ago

To bad. It'll be nice if in the future there is a way to do that. Because as of now it's the wild west with SSD suggestions in builds lists, with quality varying widely. Appreciate the consideration, though.

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Gotro 3 points 13 months ago

Hello. I'm new in pc building and totally in love with this build. Can I count with some savings for black Friday? If so, how much (aprox)? Thanks in advance.

theniceguy9112 1 point 12 months ago

Everyday something new goes on sale. I currently purchased 16gb of ram (2x8) for 100 bucks! Was pretty awesome. Check here or on newegg and keep an eye out for each daily deal this week.

Joseph2702 3 points 12 months ago

Okay, I know I'm kind of being a nitpick right now, but PLEASE put a windows os in your build!! WHENEVER anyone would build a PC they're going to NEED to pay for an OS!! You're making the PC seem cheaper than it should be and I just wanted to point that out.

-Joseph
master72 1 point 12 months ago

most people are upgrading from another windows 10 build anyway, so they can just install it from their old computer with windows already installed.

Ritallen 2 points 13 months ago

I'm new to the PC game, and am wondering how upgradable this build will be? I'm really liking it but just wondered how long term this would be. I understand that budget builds are usually not for long-term, but please humor me. Thanks, guys!

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 5 points 13 months ago

this will have a good upgrade path. AMD said that they will support AM4 socket for 3-4 years

TheOnlyNandu24 1 Build 3 points 13 months ago

The upgrade path looks good. You should be able to get Ryzen 3rd or 4th gen since AMD will support AM4 motherboards for 3-4 years. The case has space for 2 more HDDs so storage won't be a problem. The only problem is if you buy 2 x 4gb ram you will have to replace both in order to get 16gb of ram (of course if you buy 1 x 8gb this won't be a problem). You can buy pretty much any gpu as well.

Ritallen 1 point 13 months ago

Thanks for the reply. I'm actually dabbling in putting together my own builds. I'm just afraid of building something overpriced with the same power and potential. It's been fun learning though

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theniceguy9112 1 point 12 months ago

This particular build will last for quite a while. Its a pretty powerful machine, and outside of the RAM amount (which is easy to upgrade) you'll easily see at least 5 years or so of 1080p gaming. Games are still being made currently to support 2 to 3gb of VRAM, so the 6gb gpu will reign for quite a while as well.

Ritallen 1 point 12 months ago

Thanks for the reply! I'm someone who tries to buy well the first time even though I have to spend a little more. Good to hear this would be a quality build I could add to in the future.

RohanParhar 2 points 13 months ago

Hey, does the Supercombo deal from Newegg also work in Canada? If so, How? Thanks

BoyScout staff 21 Builds 3 points 13 months ago

Thanks for your feedback! Unfortunately, not this time -- but I'll see if next time we might be able to get something worked out for both regions.

FrostBittn 2 points 13 months ago

You can save $40 on a psu if you choose to get an 80+ Bronze instead of Gold. Also, if you buy an MX300, you get 525GB instead of 480GB by only spending $3 extra

FrostBittn 1 point 13 months ago

Instead of the MSI 1060, you can get an EVGA 1060 SC for the same price and end up getting better performance because of the higher base and boost clocks

Robertbert 1 Build 2 points 13 months ago

I've had my eye on Ryzen 5 1600 for a while now... I'm an intermediate builder, so I assume using 2800/3000 MHz ram requires OC'ing, correct? AMDs specs state max ram frequency of 2667 MHz. Thanks in advance!

TheOnlyNandu24 1 Build 4 points 13 months ago

I have a Ryzen 5 1600 in my build and I used the Corsair Vengence LPX 16GB 3000 MHz ram @2933 MHz dual channel. If you check the motherboard website it shows the memory they tested and it looks like it supports 3000 MHz ram w/dual channel.

Remendador 2 points 13 months ago

You are correct, btw 2666 is overclock too. But you can ignore those standards and look for some memory from your motherboard's QVL. In my case I have a DDR4 2400MHz overclocked to 2933 MHz, I just had to loosen the timings.

alfiancc 2 points 13 months ago

Man, 1060 6gb is almost $350 in Indonesia :(

henko 2 points 13 months ago

maybe drop 1060 to 3gig and 1500/1400 for more budget freindly

Anflash 2 points 13 months ago

Personally, I think this build is too similar to the great builds. The best way to fix this is possibly to change the CPU to the 1400 instead of 1600. Still, this is just my own opinion.

imad80a 2 points 13 months ago

Hi

So I'm building my first ever pc. I really don't know anything about them tbh. I made these two builds earlier. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/hpRFvV https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/BtBHXH

but I don't know if I want to spend that much money lol. Would the build mentioned in this thread be able to run games at 1080p, 144hz? btw I'm kinda blind cos I couldn't tell the diff between 90hz and 144hz on my friends pc so maybe don't need 144hz

regards pc noob

DopeAF123 3 points 13 months ago

weres the ssd???

imad80a 1 point 13 months ago

i took it out to make it cheaper but i realised i really need an ssd lol

Remendador 1 point 13 months ago

You won't be able to play 1080p@144Hz, maybe on games such as CS: GO and Overwatch, but I don't play those games. I have an R5 1600X and a GTX 1060 6GB and the only game I can reach 120 fps is DotA 2. Honestly I don't really care about those high frame rates. I suggest you forget that if you intend to make your build cheaper. Next year I'll be upgrading my VGA and monitor, but to a higher resolution as I think it's a better improvement than just higher fps.

imad80a 1 point 12 months ago

i bought a 1060 and the image definition is not as crisp as i would have liked. even on games that require slow frame rate like fifa. do you think getting a 1070 or a 1080 would provide me with a better image? I am not really too bothered about frame rate.

Remendador 1 point 12 months ago

If you are already using better graphics presets a better vga won't do much in your case.

MingoTheMango -1 points 12 months ago

In regards to gaming, any professional will tell you that higher fps is much better than higher res.

Remendador 1 point 12 months ago

Well, I don't play for a living. I play because I enjoy games. I don't care about extremely high fps. I want my games as beautiful and fluid as they can be. Frametimes and high fps are just meh and only matters on multiplayer games.

imad80a -3 points 13 months ago

and where the hell is the CPU cooler in the build lol??

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 4 points 13 months ago

it comes included with the CPU.

JohnCMcD 2 points 13 months ago

First saved list 10/31/2017

LegoCuber 3 Builds 2 points 13 months ago

How... My 1500 dollar pc has a 1060 6gb ssc and the ryzen 1600

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

well.. you have more expensive parts AND a monitor and an oS

legobricks46 2 points 13 months ago

Great pc for this price keep it up man it's very good

Noteethplease 2 points 13 months ago

I want to get my first gaming pc and this looks nice, can someone tell me if this can run most games at good settings? I dont have A specific game I want to run in mind.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 3 points 13 months ago

This can run all your favourite games on ultra.. well.. maybe not pubg.. but everything else no problemo

FrankyDiamond 1 Build 1 point 12 months ago

Can it Run Total War Warhammer 2 at Ultra ?

Cause I want to buy a New Pc for that GAme ... My old one cant run it better than Medium and that pissing me Off !

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

Don't know.. just look for benchmarks on youtube.. but i think it would be able to do it

FrankyDiamond 1 Build 1 point 12 months ago

IM pretty much a Noob in benchmark :-/ should i check. The cpu or the videocard ? Or maybe both ? Im sorry about those question :-/

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

Mostly GPU. just look for gtx 1060 6GB gaming benchmarks

Cereal_MLG 1 Build 2 points 13 months ago

this is almost exactly my build just the storage and ram and power supply

RealCheese7 2 points 13 months ago

Would I need to purchase additional front fans for this build? I looked on the Cooler Master website and it says it doesn't come with front fans.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 13 months ago

wouldn't be a bad idea. make sure they are 4 pin fans though

sleepless1440 2 points 13 months ago

Yup, this is a good build.

I love seeing the SSC version of the 1060 in builds like these, they are just so much better than the single fan versions for just a little bit more.

harmaloo 2 points 13 months ago

Could I get this cheaper on black friday? If so how can I do do so

kibeom03 2 points 12 months ago

Hi, it's my first time building a pc and was looking for a good build. I noticed there isn't a cooler for cpu. Is the CPU cooler necessary? As well as installing additional fans? Thanks!

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

the cpu cooler comes included with the cpu. And yeah,fans arent a bad idea. I would get high airflow 4 pin fans.

Shrek_Flapjack 2 points 12 months ago

Can this run shadow of war on high settings???

Triniking 1 Build 0 points 12 months ago

Here are the recommended Steam settings for Shadow of War

Recommended: OS: Windows 10 Creators Update

Processor: AMD FX-8350, 4.0 GHz / Intel Core i7-3770, 3.4 GHz

Memory: 12 GB RAM

Graphics: AMD RX 480, 4 GB or RX580, 4GB / NVIDIA GTX 970, 4GB or GTX1060, 6GB

The Ryzen 5 and 7 series outperform the FX 8xxx series and we have a GTX 1060 6gb so 1080p at high/ultra should be possible.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 12 months ago

the recommended specs don't really mean anything. just look up benchmarks on yt.

Jenksman21 2 points 12 months ago

What other case would you recomment for the same parts

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Jenksman21 1 point 12 months ago

no

Jenksman21 1 point 12 months ago

no

Jenksman21 2 points 12 months ago

what other case would you recommend for the same parts

EuphoricPenguin 2 points 12 months ago

Uggh. I know you will all hate me for this, but why not take a breath and enjoy life with a mechanical HDD? As you all know, patience is a virtue.

Abelslayer 3 points 12 months ago

Or even better, get one of each.

EuphoricPenguin 1 point 12 months ago

You are 100% correct, A lot of builds use a SSD with a HDD. It makes more sense economically.

WyrmWolf130 1 Build 1 point 13 months ago

Ryzen up...

Analog-X64 1 point 13 months ago

Aside from price, can anyone see a problem of bumping this build to 16GB of RAM?

leoladoudou 2 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

nop

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

no.. price is the only "issue" here.

S4m 1 point 13 months ago

This may be a dumb question, but how well do you think this pc would run games like Rust, CSGO, and Player Unknown Battlegrounds? :)

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 13 months ago

this will run those games really really good

FrontwardRiver6 1 point 13 months ago

Csgo= Crazy well. Becuase it is such an old game it would crush it EZ 100+ frames on best settings Rust=Really good. Have not benched marked rust but from what I have seen is that it is a solid 60 fps on high. PUBG= Good solid 60 fps on medium to high settings.

SLGaming 1 point 13 months ago

I would just go with a 80+ bronze psu as you can find decents onces for around 40$

MartialLaw 1 point 13 months ago

What's the cooling system?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 13 months ago

the cooler that comes with the CPU included

Dank_Frank 1 point 13 months ago

New to pc gaming and was just wondering, how future proof would this build be?

NWhite4720 3 points 13 months ago

It would last you probably 3-5 years, depending on how picky you are with graphics quality.

FrontwardRiver6 2 points 13 months ago

You can always change the graphics card very easily.

NWhite4720 2 points 13 months ago

That too.

the_naked_nerd 8 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

power supply looks a bit to much for money you can buy also good power supply like evga or corsair. for much better price

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 13 months ago

While you pay premium for Seasonic PSUs you get high quality PSUs.

the_naked_nerd 8 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

EvGA is made by seasonic lol

526christian 2 points 13 months ago

Yeah, all 5 out of 63 of them.

jxchurch 1 point 13 months ago

Currently working on building my first PC and don't know a lot about part specs, so pardon my ignorance, but could I expect this build to run new games on medium-high settings for at least 2 years?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

yes no problem!

ac1dfl3sh 1 point 13 months ago

Easily. My hardware was equivalent to this 3-4 years ago, and still runs most games at 1080 on medium-high settings close to 60 FPS. This build will run most of today's games on the highest settings.

Kamahi 1 point 13 months ago

Alright, I'm pretty early on in figuring out how to build a computer. Would there be anything else I need to buy to help put this together other than the parts themselves?

Also, I mainly play rpgs like Dragon Age and Witcher, would this build be good for that? My current computer freezes a lot when I play the newer games.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

well.. you need a phillips nr.2 screwdriver. And the build will play all your favourite games

Kamahi 1 point 13 months ago

Thanks!

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

if you have questions hit me up

Kamahi 1 point 13 months ago

Would this build be wifi-enabled, or do I need another part for that? The room It's going in doesn't have a working ethernet hookup.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

No, you would still need a Wifi card.

Brookshelves 2 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

but where do people get windows im dying of money i paid for windows

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 13 months ago

huh?

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yasuoOTP 2 points 13 months ago

sorry did not know...just that paul's hardware suggested it...sory sory

DR.ZHIVAGO 1 point 13 months ago

Hello, I recently decided to look into switching from console gaming to PC gaming with the interest to stream online. I have never built a PC or even seen or know anyone who has, so I am a super noob. Im just wondering if a build like this would be able to support gaming as well as streaming at the same time. I'm asking because I see the other build on here for about $1700 that is labeled as a gaming and streaming PC. Just looking for some advice and want to know if it is necessary to spend that kind of money for what I plan on using the PC for. Thanks.

ElectricSheepsDream 1 Build 1 point 13 months ago

"Streaming" PCs usually imply that they have nice powerful CPUs that can run games and record at the same time. Unless you are a pro and doing something very special, any recent 4-core CPU will do the job. Ryzen 5 1600 should be OK. But if you are really worried, get Ryzen 1700 with 2 extra cores. It's a great processor that will last for years and games keep getting better at using more cores/threads, so it would make it a bit more future proof. Good luck with your build, man!

Remendador 1 point 13 months ago

If you really intend to stream I agree with ElectricSheepsDream when he told you to go with an R7. But if you learn a bit about overclocking you could do it with an R5 too, I did that with my 1600.

gklol 1 point 13 months ago

Can this setup play Overwatch at 60 FPS on highest settings?

ElectricSheepsDream 1 Build 1 point 13 months ago

Yes, at 1080p it shouldn't be a problem =)

MrSushiGaming 1 point 13 months ago

i did find a rx580 4gb model for my 1080p moniter cheaper then the 1060 you used but it just depends on the games you play. the games i like favor the rx580. but instead of ryzen series i got an i3 8100 and somehow the total price was 827$(no moniter, windows, mouse, keyboard, etc.) i did only include 1 2tb sata III 6gbp/s 7200rpm hdd.but i did have 16gb of ddr4 2133 megahertz pny anarchy memory.

Remendador 1 point 13 months ago

wow, which motherboard you got?

RealCheese7 1 point 13 months ago

I've been reading around online where people are saying the ryzen 5 1600 won't work with B350 motherboards that don't have an updated BIOS. Is this true? Will this motherboard come with an updated BIOS? Or will I have to update it myself?

ElectricSheepsDream 1 Build 4 points 13 months ago

Never heard of that.. Your computer should boot just fine and be workable but if buying any Ryzen-based system, I highly suggest updating BIOS no matter what. It will take 5 minutes tops and will ensure that everything is working properly.

RealCheese7 2 points 13 months ago

Ok thanks.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

nah... the b350 chipset is made for ryzen. No issues here

Artosas 1 point 13 months ago

I would also consider adding a CPU Cooler for overclocking would help get the most out of that sweet 6 core ryzen cpu. Could potentially even come out the same as what the price is now, if you opt for a smaller ssd.

gwendolyn 1 point 13 months ago

Would this build be considered energy efficient?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

Yeah i think so

Guybrush13 1 point 13 months ago

Would this build be good enough to run American Truck Simulator & Euro Truck Sim at full blast?

ray135 2 points 13 months ago

Yes. 1080p ultra runs well over 60fps.

kedarps 1 point 13 months ago

Nice build! Does the CPU need a cooler?

ray135 1 point 13 months ago

The CPU comes with a decent cooler.

rubberblades 1 point 13 months ago

You know, RX 580 8GB prices are down enough that I think you should include one in this build.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

well. they are a bit the same while the 1060 pulls a bit ahead (not by much). But there isnt much choice still when you want to buy an rx 580

qtngoz@gmail.com 2 points 13 months ago

AMD graphics really pair well with Freesync monitors which are much more cheaper than Gsync monitors geared towards Nvidia. If you don't care for the bonus in gameplay mechanics then get whatever monitor and graphics. But if you haven't figure out which graphics or monitor, I'd start my research there.

Guybrush13 1 point 13 months ago

Is there any alternative for the memory sticks as they are out of stock on Amazon?

Remendador 1 point 13 months ago

As for memory I really suggest you pick them from the motherboard's QVL.

speedstyle 1 point 12 months ago

I selected a 4x4GB memory pack which worked out cheaper than the 2x4GB they put in to the parametrics. Check all of the part lists before you finish your build as there a some sweet deals. I basically just modified all of their parametric searches to include everything better than or equivalent to their presets, meaning if something better is cheaper and compatible it will pick that.

olster 1 point 13 months ago

How well could this run AAA games and on what kind of settings?

ray135 3 points 13 months ago

It can run almost all games at 1080p high or ultra at 60+fps.

olster 2 points 13 months ago

cheers, thats great

WolfOfAsgaard 1 point 13 months ago

If I switch the mobo for the AB350M Pro4 (4 DIMM slots, and m.2 support) will the ram still work? the Pro4 only mentions supporting DDR4-2133 / 2400 / 2666 / 2933 / 3200, while the RAM in this build is 3000.

Would I be better off switching to 3200Mhz RAM, or will the RAM still be able to run at 3000Mhz? Above it mentions the CPU doesn't play nice with 3200.

SG_Foster 1 Build 1 point 13 months ago

Here are some links that may help you: https://rymem.vraith.com/basic/view_by_mobo and http://www.asrock.com/support/SupportList.us.asp?cat=Memory

These may point you in the direction of ram that is definitely supported. You can always try for higher frequencies, but there is no guarantee.

thantanenorn 1 point 13 months ago

Hi , have u encounter any problem when booting up the system using that mobo and RAM ? or working nicely without a problem ? I'm planning to copy this guide but I read that some of Ryzen users having a problem with their mobo.

Remendador 1 point 13 months ago

People usually ignore the motherboard's QVL and buy memory only looking at numbers. Only to get home and face some kind of incompatibility. I never had such problems picking memory from the QVL.

theosinc 1 point 13 months ago

I would say that it's a midrange build, not a modest one

SG_Foster 1 Build 1 point 13 months ago

The motherboard parametric filter is currently selecting an ASRock AB350M - just to let you know this is a micro chipset and does not have the 64GB cap or 6 SATA 6gb/s sockets. It only holds 32GB and 4 SATA. Still a good board, though...

ywoh1121 1 point 13 months ago

Hi, I have some questions.

  1. Can I upgrade the RAM to 16gb with the above parts?

  2. Can I use ANY case that I can find on Amazon for this list?

  3. Can I use this if I bring this to Korea where they use 220/230V plugs?

  4. Is there a video on youtube on how to assemble the parts together? This will be my first time assembling a computer.

Thanks!

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 13 months ago
  1. Yes
  2. Make sure the parts fit inside the case but otherwise yes
  3. yes
  4. Yes just search "How to build a pc" you will find plenty
S4L 1 point 13 months ago

I think that this is a decent modest build, but that if you're going with 1060 and a ryzen 1600, it kinda hurts the build to only have 8 gb of ram, it would look a lot better and be more "high end" if you were to include 16 gb, it would bring the price up some, but only into the 900-1000 range, which is still modest, but much more powerful, especially when it comes to multitasking, 8gb of ram is the bare minimum. one other thing, is that thought the stock heatsink works for the 1600 it would e very valuable to get an after market heatsink, like the cooler master hyper 212 evo to keep it cheap, or if you wanted to do some heavier overclocking, a budget AIO, i recommend corsair h50 or h60

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 4 points 13 months ago

The stock cooler of Ryzen CPUs are fine. And im pretty sure that a high end Air cooler will give you way better performance than a h50 or h60. And just because the list has only 8GB of ram doesn't mean you can't get more if you want or upgrade later ;)

"it kinda hurts the build to only have 8 gb of ram, it would look a lot better and be more "high end" if you were to include 16 gb"

You are missing the point of PC building. Its important to get the best performance and not to make you PC "look" high end. And in the end this is a "modest gaming build" not a "high end build".

Artosas 1 point 13 months ago

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HDR6kT is also comparable to this list. Pretty much the go to for modest atm is Ryzen 5 1600 + 1060 6gb, the rest is negotiable.

JYC422 1 point 13 months ago

Can this build handle a GTX 1070/1080? What else would I need to upgrade to accommodate?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 13 months ago

This would be able to handle a gtx 1070 or 1080 no problem. just make sure the Video card fits in the case

mrpoonose1 1 point 13 months ago

If you dropped the ssd from 480 to 256, you could stab in there 16 gb, like fer real. Plus adding a 1tb hdd

mrpoonose1 0 points 13 months ago

Plus you have an 80+ gold power supply, totally unnecessary, an 600w 80+ bronze would be better, and you could put more things in there. like 16 gb, and a 1tb hdd

swiftmcpro 1 point 13 months ago

I have some questions.

I prefer FPS over quality. I've been playing with HP office laptops and PCs and have gotten used to the crappy FPS even with lowest quality.

I want to know if this build can run:

CSGO stable >200fps on the lowest settings,

Battlefield 4 (at lowest settings + 100% resolution scale for visibility)> 100fps

Rust >100fps at lowest settings

PUBG >100fps at lowest settings, if not >60?

TF2, L4D2, basically all the valve games at >200fps

*this might seem weird but I also need to know if it can run CS 1.6, TFC, Half - Life 1 >600fps.

FPS is really what matters to me, after that then comes quality.

Also, this build does not have any fans. If I were to buy fans, what would you recommend? I'm not sure how many to put in and also which brand of computer fans are good. Though I'm probably not going to get water cooling or anything.

Lastly, the case says it supports MicroATX only right? What about upgrades to certain ATXs? Should I just swap out the case for one that supports ATX or Extended ATX, I don't plan on buying a whole new PC in the next decade and only going to rely on slow individual upgrades of each part after getting this build. If I should swap out the case for ATX/Extended ATX, what case should I get?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

CS:Go will be no problem. Im pretty sure that even with Ultra settings you can get well over 60 - 80 fps on battlefield 4. Can't help you with rust. Pubg on lowest at 1080p probably around 60-90 fps. TF2, L4D2 dunno about 200 but it sure will be a high fps number.. and CS 1.6 & HL1 probably yeah. Check some benchmarks on youtube.. those will give you a general idea

And with a MicroATX case it only supports mATX and Mini ITX. So if you want a bigger motherboard you need to get a bigger case. I would get be quiet fans that have a 4 pin connector. You need to check the case though which size it supports and how many.

And quick question: Do you have a high refresh-rate monitor? Because if you have a 60 hz monitor it doesn't matter if you hit 200 fps because your monitor will only be able to show 60 fps. So thats something to keep in mind. let me know if you have further questions.

RodAn756 1 point 13 months ago

Sorry if I'm a noob at this but I was wondering can connect this build to wifi ( i'm asking because I see there's no wireless network adapter)

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

No.. you would need a Wifi usb stick or an internal Wifi card

RodAn756 1 point 13 months ago

ok

Gouldec 1 point 13 months ago

Most times, the RAM is NOT available on Amazon at anywhere near that price in the UK.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

yeah.. Ram prices are super high right now

Remendador 1 point 13 months ago

And probably will go even higher.

MerchEvolved 1 point 13 months ago

How much of a bottleneck would there be if I were to use my already owned GTX 1050 2GB instead of the 1060?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 3 points 13 months ago

There wouldn't really be a bottleneck. For sure the 1050 would hold the ryzen 5 1600 a bit back but he 1050 is still a really good card

Remendador 2 points 13 months ago

My brother and I have almost the same build the main difference is the VGA. I have a GTX 1060 6GB and he owns a GTX 1050ti, where I play almost every game on ultra he is limited to medium and in some cases high preset.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

So your monitor only has a VGA port? no HDMI or Displayport? The thing is: VGA is really really old. No one uses it anymore.. And you won't find it on new components

kasuky 1 point 13 months ago

can you recommend me a monitor? i still using a really old1 and i can't hook up with the newly build pc XD

btw if i buy the new monitor will it come with the div-d plug?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

sure thing.. whats your budget?

kasuky 1 point 13 months ago

around 100$

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

Asus - VC239H 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor doesnt seem too bad. its 1080p 60hz and IPS

Chruzzo 1 point 13 months ago

I've never built a PC before, but I know that all this is missing is an OS and a monitor, right? (I have a keyboard and mouse) I'm looking to build a gaming PC that'll play games as graphically intensive as BF4/BF1, PUBG, CSGO, and Skyrim. Is this a good build? Also, I'm not sure what monitor to pick up, since I don't want to waste money.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 13 months ago

This will play all your favourite games no problem! You might have to set pubg to med settings to get 60 fps but all other games should run very well... And for the monitor: How much money do you want to spend on it? if your budget is around 250 bucks then i would recommend the Asus VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor. My buddy has it and he is extremely happy with it! Has great value. let me know if you have further questions ;)

Chruzzo 1 point 13 months ago

Thanks so much! My friend threw a build together for me which is cheaper but less powerful than this one, so I’m not sure which one to go with yet.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

you're welcome. what specs did you friend include in the build?

Remendador 2 points 13 months ago

If you don't want to waste money and still play you can get a your build as this one plug it in your TV while you don't have a monitor, also you can have Win10 evaluation/trial or any name it is and use it, only losing some customization and having a discrete watermark. There are Youtube videos showing you the differences between paid and evaluation Win10. I know using a monitor is a lot better, but a man needs his machine to play. LOL. There is a saying in my country: "The one who hasn't a dog hunts with a cat".

Chruzzo 2 points 12 months ago

thanks man ahah anywhere I can save money is awesome, I really appreciate that, I'm gonna look into the Win10 trial version, and chances are for the time being I'll use my tv until I can get a monitor.

Sticstar 1 point 13 months ago

Potentially silly question, but will the Ryzen 5 1600 bottleneck the GTX 1060 6GB or vice versa? Also, any recommendations for a relatively similar motherboard with more RAM slots? (keeping price on the dl) Unless I purchase 1 x 8GB stick...

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

No.. there will be no bottleneck.

MSI - B350M PRO-VDH Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

Sticstar 1 point 13 months ago

Thanks. Also, I understand it's slightly more expensive, but would the EVGA gtx 1060 sc be a better choice than the Galax gtx 1060 oc?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

They'll perform the same

jamin724 1 point 13 months ago

So I would like to build this PC it will be my first time ever building a PC I always just bought a Dell. I am confused though I see tons of AMD RX580 for sale and everyone is saying it is hard to get due to people bit mining. Is there a specific one? I go on new egg and see tons for a comparable price. Also the the RX580 more powerful then a GTX1060?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 13 months ago

Rx 580 are generally too expensive rn. As you said you can find them but they are overpriced. And no: the 1060 6GB is better than a 580

Sticstar 1 point 13 months ago

If you're after an RX580, best put in the extra bucks for the 8GB model, otherwise the 1060 6GB would be the go. From what I've researched, however, there doesn't seem to be a huge dif between 580 8GB or the 1060 6GB...

Flyndad123 1 point 13 months ago

I know it must get annoying when folks ask if this system will play a specific game well,. but here is another,. I am trying to save as much as possible by "building my own". ... The "game" is actually a sim. X Plane 11 to be exact. I understand I won't be able to add all the bells and whistles and run the sim at max settings, but will this build get me into the game with respectable (playable) settings? Note: I plan on using a triple monitor setup. How much will this affect the fps? I am shooting for a min of 30fps.. Thanks for any advice and assistance.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 13 months ago

well I think it will be able to run it very well... but if you wanna use tripple monitor setup i would rather get a gtx 1070, gtx 1070 Ti or a vega 56.

jon.rojas 1 point 13 months ago

How will this rig handle 1440p gaming? And what kind of discounts can we expect during black Friday/cyber Monday.

ray135 1 point 13 months ago

The 1060 is capable of running games at 1440p, but most current-gen AAA games run at 30-45fps. I recommend getting a 1070/1080 or Vega 56/64 instead.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 13 months ago

Well.. only if you turn down the settings.. Having said that: My 1050 Ti was able to run pubg on 1440p on low settings at around 40 fps.. Rainbow six siege ran at 60 fps on 1440p.. I definitely think the 1060 6GB can handle 1440p. But it will vary a lot. Don't expect stellar performance though. Performance would be solid i think though

Alkalone 1 point 13 months ago

Can you overclock on a B-350?

ray135 1 point 13 months ago

Yes.

speedmaster112 1 point 13 months ago

Would this build be able to run Escape From Tarkov good?

apjinks 1 point 13 months ago

Three things:

One, if you're planning to play PUBG or CSGO you need to switch to an Intel chip. Their single core performance is considerably better than AMD and that's the relevant performance standard for those games. It's a considerable difference.

Two, I'd recommend spending the extra 20 on a Samsung SSD. It comes with something called 'TRIM' which essentially, when enabled, keeps the SSD performing at 'like new' speeds through its lifetime, whereas other SSDs that don't have it have a tendency to slow down.

Three, from what I know of AMD, the RAM speed makes a real difference on that platform. So consider spending a bit more on 3000+

GymTimeJon 1 point 12 months ago

While there is some truth to what Apjinks is saying, I can confirm that the 1600 non-overclocked with 16g 2400 RAM, on my 1060 Zotac Mini, PUBG runs on Ultra across the board, smoothly, loading off of a 7200rpm hd and played on a 1080p 100Mz.

If you're looking for anymore than that, then I think you're kidding yourself by checking out ~$800 PC builds

Baguettocossai 1 point 13 months ago

Hi, I would like to start my first build and I might try this build.. What performence do you think I could get on games with such a build ? Thanks.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

solid performance! Ultra settings on AAA at 1080p

Ntes607 1 point 13 months ago

What's the ideal monitor for this build? I'm new to this field so I was just curious.

Remendador 1 point 13 months ago

I'd go for up to 1080p@100Hz. There are a few games you'd be able to get more than 100fps but you are asking about ideal monitor, not the very best.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

Something 1080p with a higher refresh rate

AdamTuch 1 point 13 months ago

hmmm as a 13 year old i would take it but if i was like in my 20s i would try to get a gtx 1080

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

you can be 13 AND get a gtx 1080.. and you can get a gtx 1060 when you are in your 20s. age has nothig to do with it.

vzSCUBAstevezv 1 point 13 months ago

How well do you think this build would run Overwatch??

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

Perfectly. On ultra settings you'll sure have 70+ fps

Elliot_Iler 1 point 13 months ago

Budget Machine

itryharder 1 point 13 months ago

Does this motherboard support CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000)? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233852

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

Yes it should. Vengeance is very popular memory

ChaosXTP 1 point 13 months ago

1060 is especially good for 1080p monitor's.

davej27 1 point 12 months ago

Can you add a NZXT Kraken X52 Cooling on top of this?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

You could... but i wouldnt recommend it

davej27 1 point 12 months ago

What is that? What should I user instead?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

I would only get it if you overclock the CPU. If you OC the CPU then yes! go for the kraken

davej27 1 point 12 months ago

Thank you!

DrCrypto_ 1 point 12 months ago

I would switch the 480gb SSD for a 3+ TB HDD. More storage, and costs a little less than the SSD.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

and so much slower. i would get an ssd AND a hdd

asraranwary 1 point 12 months ago

what about the hard drive, is ssd enough? or should i consider adding a hard drive later on

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

i would add a harddrive later one. but fpr the start i think the ssd is enough

asraranwary 2 points 12 months ago

Yea originally i put a ssd but I wanted to meet my 900$ build requirment.

Abelslayer 1 point 12 months ago

I added a 1TB HHD and brought the SSD down to 250GB, Will this configuration still work? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4TqGKZ

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor $189.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard *ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $40.98 @ Newegg
Memory *Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $96.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $89.99 @ B&H
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $41.77 @ OutletPC
Video Card *MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB ARMOR OCV1 Video Card $273.98 @ Newegg
Case Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case $45.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $54.99 @ Newegg
Wireless Network Adapter TP-Link - TL-WDN4800 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter $34.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $909.66
Mail-in rebates -$40.00
Total $869.66
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-20 14:25 EST-0500

changed the HDD and the PSU. otherwise everything is good

Ashton0112 1 point 12 months ago

this is good but now u can get a 550W psu for only 25 bucks

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

what brand is it?

FrankyDiamond 1 Build 1 point 12 months ago

This Pc can Run Total war Warhmmaer 2 at Ultra ?

Sorry for that question but i Want to Build a PC for that game and saw this Build and its look really good but I just want to be sure if he can Run My game at Ultra

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

think so.. just look for "Total war Warhammer 2 gtx 1060" on youtube and you'll find benchmarks

geko95gek 1 point 12 months ago

Looks decent, although I'd switch out for a Nitro or Nitro+ 480 or 570 :)

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

Nah.. both cards are worse than the 1060

skyscraper289 1 point 12 months ago

What are you going to do with a 12 tb hard drive???

jesur16 1 point 12 months ago

Total n00b here. Basing my first build off of this great list. 2 questions for you experts from a firsttimer -

1) Would I need to buy a CPU cooler, or can the Ryzen's fans do the job?

2) Can I swap the motherboard with an MSI B350M, or would that not fly? I'm looking at a bundle that throws one in for FREE.

Any help is appreciated.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

You don't really need to buy a CPU cooler since the wraith one will do just fine even for a mild overclock. and yes you can swap out the Motherboard for a MSI b350 one. what Motherboard is it exactly?

jesur16 1 point 12 months ago

It's the MSi B350M Gaming Pro.

abin123 1 point 12 months ago

I want this build right now

riley70122 1 point 12 months ago

PCPP Homepage has this as a featured build with a price of $777.92, but when I come to the thread it shows a price of $836.30

Am I missing something? Was $777 the price of the Newegg combo?

Tuskentank 1 point 12 months ago

Hi I'm going to build this, but was wondering if this would work well with Steam link, streaming games like Overwatch? Sorry if that's a novice question, but I'm building this for my son and am not knowledgeable on PC gaming.

GymTimeJon 1 point 12 months ago

I put this list together, using sales that were available during Neweggs Black Friday deals event. Everything was roughly ~$700, and I opted for a HD instead of SSD at the moment. Will be sure to update/reply to this post when I've got everything together and running.

If you are considering a build like this, I'd agree that NOW is the time, as there is a deal on just about everything equivalent to whats shown here.

GymTimeJon 1 point 12 months ago

Got everything up and running last night, installed PUBG this morning and played a round before work.

Using the Ryzen 5 1600 at stock speed, 2400 DDR4 and a Zotac 1060 6G mini, PUBG defaulted to Ultra across the board. Play was smooth, and the only noted "slight"slow down was during the loading phase when a fine, upstanding gentleman in his underwear lit me ablaze.

LtTofu 1 Build 1 point 12 months ago

Note: Although I normally recommend ASrock boards, note that this one is reported to not have an option for CPU LLC (Load Line Calibration)- this might make overclocking trickier. Not undoable- you'll just have to deal with vDroop more. I hope there are more robust mATX boards on the horizon! I paired the MSI B350 Pro-VDH with the R5 1600 in my build and, though its VRMs are fairly basic, there is an LLC control for both the CPU and Northbridge power supplies.

Trappist-1 1 point 12 months ago

How would the cpu and gpu do for games like tf2?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 12 months ago

really good! as tf 2 isnt very new it will run like a dream

TheSwanRoars 1 point 12 months ago

I would toss in a cheap HDD. This is still rather close though to the build I'm planning. Mine is just a bit better and a bit more expensive; I'm going for 16 GB of RAM and that HDD I mentioned (although I'm going to have a smaller SSD that's mostly for boot up and some basic programs). Also, my PC is going to be mid-size. Other than those minor details, we think very much alike! This build is pretty much going to be able to crush any game in 1080p.

gwtatoan123 1 point 12 months ago

Say if I want to order this exact model, do i need to order them all individually ? And is it a good build for gaming ? Will there be a certain time where the price will drop? Thoughts and suggestions please. Sick using laptops, time to switch to the master race. Thx

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 12 months ago

you need to order all the things individually. You also need a 64 bit operating system like windows. And for price drops i can't really tell you just browse the sites daily and look for deals

ElionEx- 1 point 12 months ago

that power supply is sold out, would any 550w powersupply work fine no matter the grade? ex: bronze,platnium,gold?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 12 months ago

Well there are a couple of PSUs you could consider. i personall would recommend getting something like a seasonic focus 550W gold certified one. You may spend a premium for it but you will get exceptional build quality and a 10 year warranty. If you have the cash I would even get a 650W or even a 750W. Combined with the 10 year warranty you'll be able to use it for your next build too :D Right now you can get the seasonic Focus 850W for the same price as the PSU above on newegg. I would snag the focus 850W gold PSU right now

johnnyk_77 1 point 12 months ago

Can this run PUBG at a good FPS

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

yeah.. 1080p medium settins 50 - 60 fps

UmarPirjade2000 1 point 12 months ago

can you please show some benchmarks and how much frames does this pc get in games.Thank you.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 0 points 12 months ago

Look it up on youtube dude

UmarPirjade2000 1 point 12 months ago

Thanx can you send me a link

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 12 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM5nRISG2AU

found that within 1 minutes of research dude ;)

UmarPirjade2000 2 points 12 months ago

Thats awesome bro thnx btw

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 3 points 12 months ago

you are welcome dude :D if you have any questions about PC-building let me know

DoomClaw 1 point 12 months ago

I'm new to custom PC's and wondering how you would connect this using wifi. Can anyone help?

Joseph2702 1 point 12 months ago

I'm pretty sure it should just work if you just plug the ethernet cable into the port. Although I've never actually built one.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

hebis talking about wifi

Triniking 1 Build 1 point 12 months ago

The motherboard selected doesn't have built-in wifi adapters but Ethernet will still work.

DoomClaw 1 point 12 months ago

Are there any other ways to connect to wifi, since connecting an Ethernet cable wouldn't be practical for me? Thanks

Triniking 1 Build 2 points 12 months ago

There are PCI wifi cards that can be attached to the mobo like this.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tTdqqs/gigabyte-wireless-network-card-gcwb867di

There are also USB adapters like this

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tj2rxr/netgear-wireless-network-card-a6210100pas

DoomClaw 1 point 12 months ago

Thanks, I really appreciate it

vichpa 1 point 12 months ago

Ah...same build costs around 1250$ in Croatia. I just changed the power supply, case and an ssd because they're not in stock. http://prntscr.com/hef983

FeelsBadMan

peritecunne 1 point 12 months ago

I have literally just started wanted to build my PC about 3 days ago. I want to know if this is the type of PC that will handle games such as CSGO, PUBG, H1Z1, and other fps games. I have doing a little of research on youtube and am still getting confused whether or not this PC build is good. Want I want to know is what could be added to this build to make it better. Thanks.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 12 months ago

This build will handle those games no problems at 1080p! What i would suggest to make the build better is to get 16Gb of memory instead of 8GB. I recommend the corsair vengeance lpx 2×8GB DDR4-3000 Mhz memory kit. A 1TB Harddrive next to the SSD wouldn't hurt either. The western digital Caviar blue 1TB 7200rpm is a good choice here. If you have any questions let mw know.

peritecunne 2 points 12 months ago

THANKS I was just wondering because this will be my first PC build ever and I just don't want to waste my money.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 12 months ago

you are welcome ;)

peritecunne 1 point 12 months ago

hey, if you can can you go to my custom build and give me your opinion on the two custom build I made.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 12 months ago

So here are my thoughts on your ryzen build: I generally like everything and it seems like a solid part selection. The changes I made are more out of personal preference

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor $189.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler $28.90 @ Newegg Marketplace
Motherboard MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard $64.99 @ Newegg
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $194.88 @ OutletPC
Storage Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $139.99 @ B&H
Video Card MSI - GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card -
Case Fractal Design - Define R5 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $89.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $69.99 @ SuperBiiz
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $798.63
Mail-in rebates -$20.00
Total $778.63
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-27 11:39 EST-0500

I changed the CPU cooler to one that looks nicer and is probably a bit more quiet and gives you similar cooling performance.

I changed the motherboard becuase the Tomahawk one has more features and is just a nicer board in general. It has more features and I am sure is a better overclocker. I know it costs more but i would just bite the bullet and go for this one. I have this problem rn. I cheaped out on the motherboard on my first PC and now after upgrading i have an i7 and a strix 1080 Ti but I still have a cheap ugly motherboard. It works no problems and it does its job but it just bugs me a little bit.

I changed the Case because the 750D is a huge *** case. Its a full tower and pretty expensive. I went with the fractal design r5 here. It still has everything you need and good build quality while being a bit cheaper.

I just changed the PSU to a Seasonic one because I really love Seasonic. Their PSU are absolutely awesome and come with a 10 year warranty. Seasonic make some of the best PSUs out there. The Supernova one is also a good one.

But if you don't like my changes your part list is actually quite good. And adding a harddrive later on is super easy :)

LivingForGlory 1 point 12 months ago

I'm looking at getting this build, but, going with 16 GB of RAM out of the gate. If I edit this build and just change the parametric filter to 16 GB (2x8GB), will that work?

Doing that, it's pulled up: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DHPzK8/team-vulcan-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-tlgd416g3000hc16cdc01

Outside of the 288-pin DIMM, is there anything else I need to look at to make sure this will work with the MOBO?

Also, I noticed earlier in the comments people noting that it was necessary to overclock to use the DDR4-3000 memory. Does that mean I'd have to do something other than just install it in order to have this PC work out of the gate? Or is that just if I want to get the most out of it? I'm completely unfamiliar with overclocking in general.

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Engie_pc 1 point 12 months ago

tip. if you have a low powered system like this, then use something that isn't too high cos that's just wasting your money. I would recommend a 430w psu for this build

nivalr 1 point 12 months ago

Are SSDs really that worth it to justify the decrease load times, what sort of things do you put on it? Windows and often used programs?

Any thoughts on a firecuda hybrid drive?

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JoshB93 1 point 12 months ago

Hi Guys,

I have read that in regards to CSGO having an intel processor would improve performance quite a bit due to single core performance, is this true?

If so, would this processor (Intel Core i7-7700K) still work with this build?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

you would need an intel motherboard for that. i would check out the other intel build guides. and for cs:go you will still have awesome performance with this build

ace10301 1 point 12 months ago

You literally have the same build as I just made my friend. Guess I know I picked well!

aveburydude 1 point 12 months ago

hi, i have never built a pc system and i am 60 years old :) .... is it really click and connect? I am looking to produce videos and edit multi layered sound using cubase.

Will this system be able to edit 4K using adobe premiere?

(4k i consider overkill but even youtube is going that way, despite appalling broadband speeds in the uk outside the big cities.)

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

For editing you would want more RAM, at least 16GB but otherwise this should be perfect for you. Everything is keyed and will only fit in the correct location.

aveburydude 1 point 12 months ago

thank you.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

Yeah! PC-Building is much easier than it seems! there are a ton of build guides on youtube. This one for example is a really nice one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhX0fOUYd8Q&t=96s

If you have any other questions let me know. I'm glad to help out :D

aveburydude 1 point 12 months ago

thank you very much

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

You are very welcome! PC building can be confusing at the beginning.. especially the part selection

redex13 1 point 12 months ago

How will this hold up at a 1440 resolution, 144hz refresh monitor?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

If you are aiming at 1440p and 144 Hz then i would save up and get at least a gtx 1070 ti

redex13 1 point 12 months ago

I've decided to go with a 1080, you're absolutely right, I should take advantage of the monitor if I'm getting it. Thanks for your input :)

Hoehenflug 1 point 12 months ago

Hey'all ! Planning on ordering this from Germany. This is my first time and I'm absolutely clueless about technical stuff, what would be cost efficient monitor, boxes and keyboard to go along with this ? Preferably from amazon.de - but any help would be vastly appreciated !

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Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 12 months ago

i would get the acer one.. and for keyboards and mice: logitech makes some cheap ones that aren't that bad.. they cost like 30 bucks together.. The keyboard is fine its the k120 i believe. I would get a more expensive mouse though.. something like a g300.

Hoehenflug 1 point 12 months ago

Thank you so much guys ! :]

DemonRyke 1 point 12 months ago

I can get a bit better for this money :/

gogetaspirit 1 point 12 months ago

For the GTX 1060 is the blower style necessary for this build? or can you get the ACX 2.0 instead?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

get the ACX 2.0

TramSK 1 point 12 months ago

SuperCombo not more avaiable ;(

chrissshe 1 point 12 months ago

I'm new to this site and am curious when this list will get updated. It seems like a lot of its discount have expired...

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 2 points 12 months ago

The prices are constantly updating though it looks like the supercombo is no longer available.

chrissshe 1 point 12 months ago

It's a very helpful guide! Do you have plans to release a new version during this holiday season?

Wonazer 1 point 12 months ago

The website updates the pricing automatically (with the exception of the linked Newegg deal). There's not much updating that needs to happen unless you specifically want newer hardware.

chrissshe 1 point 12 months ago

I appreciate the automatic price updating feature. But I also see that there were a stream of new versions of this article in the past 1+ years. So I was wondering when the list would be updated (with new choices, not just prices)

Wonazer 2 points 12 months ago

Anything with a parametric filter is automatic. For example, you can set up a filter to put together a specific range of items. I took this Modest Build, clicked "Customize This Part List" (which saves it to your profile), then altered the parametric filter for the video card to include either the rx 580 or the 1060. Every time I come to the website, it shows me the build with the best value within my parameters.

Basically, the list will always show you the best value within the parameters set. It's updating frequently. The "revisions" are editor specific changes to the description or alterations of the parametric filters.

danmac 1 point 12 months ago

Very good build, I just completed a very similar build in a Corsair AIR 240 Case.

The only thing wrong with the description above is the ASRock AB350M Pro4 only has 4 SATA ports, not 6. I know this because I have 5 spinning drives and a SATA SSD so I went with the Asus PRIME B350M-A.

I know that 2 of those SATA ports won't work if you install an M.2 drive, but I don't have one of those yet.

SG_Foster 1 Build 1 point 12 months ago

Are we going to go back to recommending RX 580 yet? The 4 GB model (MSI - RX 580 4GB Armor = $319.99 CAD at Newegg) is well below the currently suggested price of the 1060 6GB ($364.99 CAD at MemoryExpress). And the 8GB is only $5 CAD different (MSI RX 580 8GB Armor = $359.99 at MemoryExpress). Would be nice to see some full AMD builds/ FreeSync options. Availability is just fine in Canada, anyway.

Piggyproofed 1 point 12 months ago

Hey guys, I’m working on my first build and feeling pretty overwhelmed with the choices. I’m switching from console so I’m not very knowledgeable about any of this. I’ll mainly be playing Overwatch, and I’d like to get into twitch streaming. Would this build be enough, and if not, what about it needs upgrading? Thanks

Eltech 20 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

This Ryzen 5 build is more than enough for Overwatch and will Twitch stream just fine. Technically this Ryzen 5 build meets the Twitch Streaming requirements.

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sneakyraptor45 1 point 12 months ago

Hey I'm just getting into pc gaming and want to just run CS:GO, shellshock, League, and a few other games. Any tips would be great. So far my build is as follows: CPU: Intel - Pentium E5800 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor $58.00

Motherboard: Intel - DP45SG ATX LGA775 Motherboard $200.00-280.00

Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory $69.31

Storage: Toshiba - P300 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $39.88

Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card $158.99

Case: Cooler Master - HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case $54.99

Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $49.99

Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $89.89

Triniking 1 Build 2 points 12 months ago

Why the Pentium E5800?

With the cost of that CPU + Mobo +RAM combo ($328!!!) you can get this ( https://pcpartpicker.com/list/frLpqk ) which is on a current platform with upgradability.

ray135 1 point 12 months ago

That is an extremely slow CPU, and you're aren't saving money with that cpu+motherboard combo. Your pc would be a lot faster if you got a Pentium g4560, and the motherboard for it is much cheaper.

PresDuhMes 1 point 12 months ago

Hey guys I'm a new person here looking for some help- I want to understand how to build this particular PC before I buy it. Also what is a good monitor for this PC? Also what about some of the parts? Is this all the parts?

chrissshe 1 point 12 months ago

i find this youtube video helpful and concise https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lrdDID3i7s

Finalword 1 Build 1 point 12 months ago

Built a nearly identical machine for my bosses kid, Puts you on par for $1000 budget gaming build including monitor(s), or accessories, maybe a game? A good line in the sand build. I would not go any lighter than this on the CPU or GFX. (Look for some 3200 RAM)

Gxi 1 point 12 months ago

If I were wanting to stream, not edit. What changes should/need to be made to this build?

acewingman 3 points 12 months ago

You could stream with this build with no problems.

Gxi 1 point 12 months ago

Thank you.

Vicor 1 point 12 months ago

Could I add more ram without needing to buy additional parts?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

The current motherboard only has 2 DIMM slots. You can adjust the parametric filter to select one with 4x DIMM slots.

Vicor 1 point 12 months ago

What I meant to say was can I replace the 2 4gb sticks with 2 8gb sticks without having to change anything else about the build?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

You would not need to change anything else in the build.

masedano 1 point 12 months ago

Is the Newegg superbundle still active?

chrissshe 1 point 12 months ago

nope

thejesterguy 1 point 12 months ago

$ 852.81 = R$ 2.806.42

While it looks a really good setup, mostly of these parts here in Brazil are darn overpriced.

PNY - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Video Card = R$ 1230 = $ 373.1570

SanDisk - SSD PLUS 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive = R$ 720 = $ 218.4665

MSI - B350M PRO-VD PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard = Not available /facepalm (Microstar - MSI / B350M Gaming Pro) = R$ 450 = $ 136.3554)

Patriot - Viper Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory = R$ 235 = $ 71.2975(*2) = R$ 470 = $ 142.5582

AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor = R$ 727 = $ 220.5436

Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case = R$ 210 = $ 63.6605

Corsair - TXM Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply = R$ 437.51 = $ 132.6310

Total = R$ 4.244,51 = more or less $ 1.287.00 (Source = https://br.advfn.com/conversor-moedas )

Unfortunately for me this is way off my budget (under R$ 3.000) so I'll stick with my "Jester V8" upgrade option, which's between R$ 2,585,88 ~ 2,615,88 and it's full AMD (Ryzen 5 1400 + RX 560 2GB + Asus Prime B350M-A).

It's not much for some, but at least it'll prepare my for future upgrades, you know. Also, I'll be playing mostly indie games over AAA stuff so IMO it should be fine.

ray135 2 points 12 months ago

If you plan on overclocking, you should consider saving some money by getting a Ryzen 1200. There's not much difference between a OC'd 1200 and 1400, and the 1200 never bottlenecks a RX 560 (and rarely the 1060 6gb).

I suggest saving some money now and then upgrading both your GPU and CPU in the next few years, especially since you mostly play indie games now.

thejesterguy 1 point 12 months ago

First of all, thanks for the advice.

And you're right. I've compared the performances of both 1200 (R$ 354 = $ 107.4290) and 1400 and they're quite close to each other: 1400 vs 1200(http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-1400-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-1200/3922vs3931)

I've also done another comparison, now with the 1300X, which's also pretty cheap here (R$ 478.5 = $ 145.2333): 1400 vs 1300X(http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-1400-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-1300X/3922vs3930)

I guess getting either of these two make more sense than having a stock R5 1400 (even though I never overclocked anything in my whole life). Besides, it makes room to me to buy (or not) a 4GB RX560 or even a GTX 1050 Ti.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

I would be careful with rx 560s since amd secretly downgraded them. I had a 1050 Ti and i was Super happy with it.

thejesterguy 1 point 12 months ago

Yeah, I've read about it, but I decided to stick with the GTX 1050 Ti line mostly because of its better performance.

BaNaNaShotzzz 1 point 12 months ago

Do you think it's worth putting more money into a gpu from a 1050 ti into a 1060 3gb for games like Battlefield 1? Also do you think the 1 gb downgrade from the 1050 ti to the 1060 3gb will affect gaming performance now and in the future, especially because games may become more intense.

Triniking 1 Build 1 point 12 months ago

Is it possible to stick a GTX 1050 over a RX 560 2GB into your budget?

thejesterguy 1 point 12 months ago

Yeah, it's possible.

Sticstar 1 point 12 months ago

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/HVHFBP

So this is what I came up with. Tell me what you guys think! The total price comes to about $1250AD (Including Postage :P) If you can inform me of any cheaper alternatives without sacrificing too much performance, I'm all ears. I'd appreciate the constructive criticism ;)

ray135 1 point 12 months ago

You should definitely add a 1tb HDD or get a larger SSD, unless you plan on having only a few games installed. It didn't take long for my 500gb SSD to fill up, but that obviously depends on what games you install.

I also suggest getting faster ram. This Corsair ram is only $5AD more and is somewhat faster, and this Crucial ram is the same speed but is $24AD cheaper.

Aside from that, your build is great.

Sticstar 1 point 12 months ago

Oops, forgot to mention about the HD. I actually already have a 1TB on hand I plan on installing XD. As for the memory, from what I've researched, Ryzen cpus benefit from dual channel over single channel, hence my decision.

ray135 1 point 12 months ago

I found a much better one: Two sticks, 3000MHz. It costs $16AD more, but it's worth it. The price is relatively great for what you get.

chrissshe 1 point 12 months ago

i have more of a question rather than comment. How do you decide which model of GTX1060 to use? As you see, the model used in this post is at $279, much cheaper than your choice of $385. I'm curious what features you think are worth the price difference.

ray135 2 points 12 months ago

His link shows the price in Australian dollars. $385AD is $289.

chrissshe 2 points 12 months ago

damn... that didnt occur to me at all

Sticstar 1 point 12 months ago

.....What about a 980 4GB? If I could get my hands on one, would that make the better alternative?

ray135 1 point 12 months ago

That's a slightly worse alternative. The 980 performs similarly, but it has less vram and requires more power. It might better choice, but that depends on the price.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

depends on the price

JasonAVO 1 point 12 months ago
Sticstar 1 point 12 months ago

Is 3000mhz ram necessary? Not only is memory out of stock in most places atm, its also very expensive whats left.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 12 months ago

yes. for ryzen it is rather important to get fast ram. vengeanxe lpx is a good option too. or ripjaws V

SG_Foster 1 Build 1 point 12 months ago

It's not so much necessary as it is highly, highly recommended. Ryzen scales well with higher frequencies, so to take advantage of what the processor has to offer you'll want to use faster frequencies. Some people even vouch for DDR4-3200. But the comp will still run on lower freq if required...

acewingman 1 point 12 months ago

It's not required, but... The best thing to do is go to your motherboard manufacturer's website and see what memory is recommended for your MB. Yes, Ryzen CPUs scale well with faster memory but it doesn't matter how fast your memory is if the memory hasn't been certified to work with your MB. Once you have a MB/RAM pair that works well together you really won't notice any difference in speed unless you are running benchmarks. Don't feel pressured to buy all the memory right now, memory is the easiest thing to upgrade later. Just get the minimum that you can get by with if you absolutely have to have it now.

Sticstar 1 point 12 months ago

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/LrDD6X

Right, this is what I think I'm going with. I'll be providing my own 1TB HD seperately. It'll cost about $1240 (including postage :P) Tell me what y'all think!

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

Looks very good to me! Personally I would get another case. But thats just out of preference ;)

Izzynatural 1 point 12 months ago

If I were to choose the 1060 3GB, could I go with a cheaper CPU or would you still recommend the Ryzen 5 1600?

acewingman 1 point 12 months ago

It all depends on what you plan to do with the machine you are putting it in... For gaming, I would say it doesn't matter but if you were editing video then I would say yes, it would matter.

Izzynatural 1 point 12 months ago

Just using it for Gaming and my needs/expectations is a build that I can play most games on high settings at 1080p, 60fps. Currently I am playing: Fortnite, PUBG, COD.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 months ago

Well depends on your budget. If you have the money i would get the r5 1600. it gives you better performance in gaming even on stock clockspeed compared to an overclocked ryzen 3 1200.

Izzynatural 1 point 12 months ago

Copy that - thx

Izzynatural 1 point 12 months ago

Noob Question - would this power supply be fine for this build??

SeaSonic M12II 520 Bronze

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TgW9TW/seasonic-power-supply-m12ii520bronze

acewingman 1 point 12 months ago

Yes it will. You know you can click the button that says "Customize this part list" and swap out hardware as needed. Just make sure you have "Enable compatibility filter" checked.

Izzynatural 1 point 12 months ago

Yeah, I knew that but what I dont know is the wattage requirement for the build, plus I just dont really know much about the components in general, lol. Thanks for replying!

acewingman 1 point 12 months ago

That's OK, if you look at the build list it shows the power requirements.... Estimated Wattage: 260W. I would take that estimate and double it, then buy a PSU close to that range. That is unless you plan to upgrade in the future, then you would want to compensate for that too.

JTYosh 1 point 12 months ago

Hi, I've never purchased individual computer parts before and was wondering if this build or one of its parts comes with an operating system? If not, any suggestions as to which one I should get would be appreciated. Thank you in advance!

chrissshe 1 point 12 months ago

i dont think these parts contains operating systems

Izzynatural 1 point 12 months ago

I have a Dell SE2717HD Monitor, it has free sync technology. Would I be better off going with a price equivelant AMD graphics card to take advantage of Freesync?

acewingman 1 point 12 months ago

The refresh rates on that monitor are not that good to worry about using freeSync unless you are getting really low FPS in your games.

Izzynatural 1 point 12 months ago

Are you saying it has a bad refresh rate?

acewingman 1 point 12 months ago

Not a bad refresh rate but I would think you would get better FPS in a game than the refresh rate of the monitor and in that case freesync isn't going to help.

Izzynatural 1 point 12 months ago

What monitor would you recommend for this build?

Izzynatural 1 point 12 months ago

Pretty much lost on Monitors. I currently have a Dell SE2717H

https://www.cnet.com/products/dell-se2717h-led-monitor-full-hd-1080p-27/specs/

I am building this "modest build" and plan on playing games like PUBG, COD, Fortnite, and other big titles. I am looking for the smoothest gameplay. Will my monitor hold me back? Do I need to get a better monitor to take full advantage of this build?? If I do need a better monitor, what specs should I be looking for?

psyhobeats 1 point 12 months ago

This is my first post on this site so... hello everyone!

So, I've used this build as a cheatsheet as this is my first PC build ever. I've customized it to suit my needs better and for future upgrades (hence ATX mobo and ATX mid tower). It's going to be a big step ahead compared to my current laptop but I've never built a PC on my own before. How does it look like?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/yfspZ8

I've read that MSI B350 PC MATE is pretty much the same thing as TOMAHAWK, just without all these "gaming features". Is that right, or is there some significant diffrence between these two? Perhaps ASRock - AB350 Pro4 for just £4 more would be better choice?

I'm going to need a fresh OS and monitor so I've added these to the build. I would like to ask for advice with the monitor, I had no clue which one to choose to be honest. Will that one be sufficient?

I will be more than happy to read your advices and alternatives!

kaleb99 1 point 12 months ago

Sorry I'm a noob but if I want to be able to upgrade my components in the future will this build allow me to do that, e.g. if I wanted to add more RAM or upgrade my graphics card will this build let me. If not can you guys suggest what I should change in this build.

Edit: Also I need to order this before Christmas as it's a present, so if you guys could tell me what parts I would not need to change, so I can order those parts asap.

psyhobeats 2 points 12 months ago

I believe this motherboard has just 2 RAM slots so if you wanted to get more RAM in the future you would have to swap 2x4GB to 2x8GB memory. You can also change this motherboard to one with more slots.

For the GPU you will be able to upgrade you graphic card as long as it fits in the case (check case specs for the info on max video card lenght). You won't be able to use two GPUs at once though, because this mobo doesn't support Crossfire.

Don't take my words for granted, I'm not experieced as well, so wait for a pro advice on this. It's a good idea to do a lot research on all the components you wish to buy, there are lots of Youtube videos about it (at least that's what I do at the moment).

PlayZ 1 point 12 months ago

Guys I need to know, is NewEgg legit? The prices are so low it's hard to believe :p

iWonDummy 1 point 12 months ago

Yes, I've brought multiple items from there.

PlayZ 1 point 11 months ago

thanks

goforthesurf 1 point 12 months ago

Would anyone be able to comment on this build (my first) is there anything missing? Or is there anything that isnt really needed (like the CPU cooler?)

ps. ignore the keyboard

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor £176.99 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler £25.31 @ Ebuyer
Motherboard ASRock - Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard £92.90 @ CCL Computers
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory £184.22 @ CCL Computers
Storage Crucial - BX300 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive £65.00 @ Amazon UK
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £54.95 @ CCL Computers
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card £264.67 @ CCL Computers
Case Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case £57.95 @ Aria PC
Power Supply Corsair - CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply £65.47 @ Scan.co.uk
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit £86.82 @ Aria PC
Mouse Corsair - Harpoon RGB Wired Optical Mouse £18.98 @ Amazon UK
Other TeckNet Arctrix Pro Mechanical Gaming Keyboard and Mouse Set, Full Size 104 keys LED Illuminated Keyboard with Black Switch, Anti-ghosting Keys and Water-Resistant Design, UK Layout £38.99 @ Amazon UK
Other SteelSeries QcK Gaming Mouse Pad (Black) £10.98 @ Amazon UK
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £1143.23
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-17 21:51 GMT+0000
PinkWKid 1 point 12 months ago

Thinking about buying this build. I have never built a PC, is there a good video that will help me build this particular build? Or will a general PC building video be fine?

Fatbishh 0 points 12 months ago

i am new to pc gaming, would this be a good build to start with ?