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i5-4460 / Radeon R9 390 Gaming PC

by manirelli

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  • #1: i5-4460 / Radeon R9 390 Gaming PC (37 months ago)

Description

This build is powered by the Intel Core i5-4460. This processor is a great choice for most gaming machines and despite not being overclockable still delivers excellent performance where it counts. The ASRock H97M is a great motherboard to pair with the CPU. The H97M has a clean black and blue color scheme that matches up with the rest of the components in the build and features a USB3.0 header, 6x SATA ports, and allows for up to 16GB of memory.

For storage, this gaming machine uses the Crucial BX100 solid state drive for the operating system and commonly used games or programs. Additionally, this build has a 1TB Seagate Barracuda hard drive for the rest of your storage needs and 8GB of G.Skill Sniper memory. Please note that we have used parametric part selection for the SSD, HDD, and memory in our part list. Most part offerings for these categories perform equally and are user swappable based on personal preference.

No gaming machine would be complete without a high-powered graphics card. This system leverages the full power of a dual fan Radeon R9 390 from Gigabyte. At 1080p the R9 390 should blow away most games and if your budget allows may justify an upgrade to 1440p or a 120/144hz screen.

All of these components are housed inside of the recently released Corsair 88R. For a micro atx case, the 88R packs a ton of features into a sleek and clean package including ample room for cable management, a large sidepanel window to view your components, space for full-size flagship GPUs, and support for radiators up to 240mm.

We hope you enjoy the guide and and the video walkthrough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkCuYFhVH68

Newegg has kindly put together a combo deal for this build. (Note: some components in the combo deal have been changed for equivalent models based on availability.)

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Estimated Wattage: 398W
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Total: $495.83
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* Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.

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526christian 12 points 37 months ago

Ryan's voice is always so soothing for some reason.

526christian 5 points 37 months ago

Sneaky Ryan! I see you changing the PSU from a VSM 550w to a Rosewill Hive!

0BSiD1AN 4 points 37 months ago

Its on a parametric filter

jj0322 2 points 36 months ago

Can you use/set-up a parametric filter on your own build lists?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 4 points 36 months ago

Yep!

jj0322 2 points 36 months ago

Thank you! But I can't seem to find out how (and have limited access to research at work) how would one go about doing so?

Hoomanman 2 points 35 months ago

Why the Hive? It's far worse than all the other PSUs there.

Pcjulian12343 1 point 35 months ago

Filters...filters everywhere...

0BSiD1AN 1 point 36 months ago

Yes

526christian 1 point 36 months ago

Test

Well, I can reply to comments on build guides still.

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Gooberdad 10 Builds 5 points 37 months ago

This would work nicely.

matttech24 1 point 36 months ago

yeah

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Gooberdad 10 Builds 7 points 37 months ago

Like going to get your hair cut and getting put in a movie because it just looks that good.

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Gooberdad 10 Builds 3 points 37 months ago

Shoot I was so surprised. A couple of weeks ago another builder and I had talked about old computers and this came to mind. I'm tickled it still works. Just needed a cleaning. Of course it may stop working tomorrow.

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alexshoofs 1 Build 4 points 37 months ago

its about time the featured guide changed, and it is well deserved

paldor 4 points 37 months ago

Great Build

Nes2k 3 points 37 months ago

I feel like the power supply is too weak for an 390

DBBuilder 1 Build 1 point 34 months ago

I was thinking the same thing. I have the R9 390 and did a ton of research for PSU and every result came back with a "you'll need a 650W."

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viciouz081314 2 Builds 2 points 37 months ago

if u put gtx 970 in here in case of r9 390, will this be bad?? or wrong?? for this build

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 3 points 37 months ago

That would be a perfectly fine swap.

viciouz081314 2 Builds 1 point 37 months ago

Yes tnx you,, can u explain y? despite of that 3.5gig issue on 970?

526christian 1 point 37 months ago

Because for some reason you might prefer the 970. Not a massive loss in performance.

viciouz081314 2 Builds 2 points 37 months ago

yes thank u,.. coz i buy the 970 over 390... kinda regret. but its ok

SushiSlayer 0 points 36 months ago

No regrets buddy. The 970 has more cuda cores than the 390 has OpenCL and it consumes way less power than the 390. Plus there are many more custom drivers out there for the 970 so you can get a bump in power and performance.

Chaostiix -4 points 37 months ago

There are many reasons to buy the 970 over the 390.

526christian 2 points 37 months ago

Did I say there wasn't?

Xorex64 2 points 37 months ago

Why is this getting downvoted? there are some/many reasons to get the 970 over the 390. Its depends on what the user values most. Like seriously, atleast hes not like "hurr durr, diablotek > superflower"

Greatyucko 1 point 37 months ago

I had the same question....so all the parts are compatible with the 970? What is the tradoff between the two? Also, I noticed the reviews for the gigabyte 390 on newegg were kind of sketchy, is there another brand you would recommend for a few extra bucks?

526christian 2 points 37 months ago

PowerColor's PCS+ is a good choice on the cheaper side of 390s.

SushiSlayer 2 points 36 months ago

MSI makes a great one. The big difference between brands is the drivers they use. MSI has always had great drivers, same for EVGA. What I love about EVGA is they seem to be able to draw more power than most other brands because of the drivers (and the FTW)

390 is cheaper but consumes more power. 970 is great for virtual users (CUDA) and low power consumption

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SushiSlayer 1 point 36 months ago

That is a very false statement. You can take the same GPU from say EVGA and Nvidia and the drivers will be completely different. This is how each company is able to get different things out of the card. Obviously the stats are neck and neck but sthose slight differences between brands is due to the drivers they use. Also, there are drivers that independent programmers create to get a little bit more out of the card and you can find these all over google

Khas 2 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

Asus EVGA MSI

Gigabyte

^ in that order :P

Chaostiix -9 points 37 months ago

I recommend keeping with the 970, much better performance.

armingips 2 points 37 months ago

Slower Card, 3.5 VRAM, Nvidia... troll being troll

Chaostiix -8 points 37 months ago

The 970 is amazingly underrated. The 390 will heat up quick, and there's really no way to prevent that. No aftermarket cooler or case with the absolute best possible airflow can prevent that. The 970, however, will run smoothly. The 390 will be forced to run at a lower clock rate due to the excess heat, causing slower FPS. The 390 is entirely overrated. People mistake raw power for graphical speed. The amount of VRAM doesn't matter when the clock rate will be so far under the needed clock rate to play games smoothly that you'll be wishing you considered the 970 in no time. NVidia, also, did not make a slower card. AMD is good for about 50% of relevant games, NVidia is better for the rest of the relevant games.

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dimpopo 0 points 37 months ago

What about GTX 960 4gb?

Chaostiix 1 point 37 months ago

Great card

armingips 1 point 37 months ago

Please do not listen to Chaostriix.
The 960 is a good mid-range card, but the AMD R9 380 4gb version IS stronger in every single game. Thats said, the 380 needs a little bit more power and gets a bit hotter/louder.

So if you really can't power a 380 or you really want some of the Nvidia features go for the 960 4gb version, but if the 380 4gb costs the same or only 5~10$ more, and you do not need Nvidias features and you have a PSU 500W Bronze or better, please take the 380 4gb.

SushiSlayer 1 point 36 months ago

+1 for armingips. Couldnt have said it better myself. The only reason why I use the GTX in my builds is because I have virtual users ahd GTX has more CUDA cores than Radeon has OpenCL cores

Xorex64 0 points 37 months ago

every single game

Im calling BS, there exists games where a 960 beats the 380

Finneyliam 1 point 35 months ago

There exists games where 390 beats 980ti, very poorly optimized games.

Just because they exist doesn't mean you base an argument on them...

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vagabond139 5 Builds 0 points 37 months ago

Its not better in every single game, it loses to the GTX 960 mainly in games that Gameworks. The GTX 960 murders it in games like Project cars last time I checked.

armingips 1 point 37 months ago

It would still be better in gameworks games, if nvidia wouldn't block things for AMD and older Nvidia cards...
it's gameworks what slows down the 380, not a problem the card has itself. Just Nvidias Buisness model, slow down other cards with gameworks, so people will buy the new nvidia cards. But even then the 380 still.wins in some gameworks titles

De@n 1 point 36 months ago

380 is faster in 95% of games

pc14213 2 points 37 months ago

Hi, just bought can't wait to put it together. Thanks :)

rudyae86 2 points 36 months ago

You could probably build this PC with less money, if you shop around wisely. Also considering how prices fluctuate on a daily or weekly basis

TheMMC 0 points 36 months ago

Agreed. He definitely could have saved on his Video Card and invested it elsewhere, or perhaps save it for future upgrades. I would personally recommend he get another 8GB Memory Stick by downgrading his Power Supply (you can get them down to around $30USD Certified if you look around) and put some of that money into his CPU.

boofheadfred 1 Build 2 points 36 months ago

downgrading his power supply

No, no, NO! Downgrading your PSU is a really bad idea. Purchasing a sub-par or insufficient PSU is a terrible idea because if your power supply goes bang then it might take some of the other components with you. Really awful ones (sub $30) can be a fire hazard and can even kill you.

TheMMC 1 point 36 months ago

Thanks for the advice. However on here (pcpartpicker) it says it's 80+ Bronze Certified. Is that not sufficient?

Dabeavis 3 Builds 2 points 36 months ago

80+ certification is never a sole indication or reliability/quality. It's mainly the OEM that matters. For instance EVGA has some great PSUs such as their Supernova B2, G2 and GS lines (and their Platinum and Titanium rated equivalents) which use Seasonic or Super Flower units as their foundation. But most of their other PSUs are built by inferior OEMs (especially their NEXB/G series) which aren't as ideal for high-load applications like overclocking.

boofheadfred 1 Build 1 point 36 months ago

There are many things that go into making a good PSU, and Efficiency is just one. I'm on mobile, so I can't go into detail, but the website jonnyguru.com does fantastic PSU reviews and anything that he says tends to be right.

Thewanderer 2 points 36 months ago

why the 4460 instead of a new processor?

tangoXomega 2 points 36 months ago

Seriously, You can fit an i5-6500, H170 mobo, and DDR4 at this price point. You don't even have to stick with the i5-6400. I don't get it either.

gpse123 2 points 36 months ago

This is a nice pc, I would just suggest upgrading the cpu to a i5 4590 but awesome job :)

Zydrate4 2 points 36 months ago

Can you list some games and the fps they would achieve with this build? Thanks mate.

Bait12 2 points 36 months ago

I just built this and can tell you I get 60fps in Battlefield 4 and Fallout 4 maxed out at 1920x1080. I haven't really tried any other games, but I don't see myself having any trouble. Only problem is air flow, so I bought some extra case fans to help.

Zydrate4 1 point 36 months ago

thanks mate

Zydrate4 1 point 36 months ago

also is anyone else having a problem with air flow?

pc14213 1 point 36 months ago

I also built this but with the newegg equivelents bundled in their package. I also put in 4 extra case fans for a total of 5. I use 3 intake (the front 2 and 1 top) and 2 exhaust (back of case and 1 top, closest to the back). I havent had ANY issues with airflow and am getting amazing temps for the GPU and CPU. I overclocked the 390 to 1090/1625.

whitechapelkilla 1 point 35 months ago

how did you get the 2 extra fans in i can only find one other fan header on the cpu 2 header

Angrypanda17 2 points 36 months ago

Can you recommend some other choices of cases that you like? Trying to sort through the massive amount to choose from.

pc14213 2 points 36 months ago

I just built this and can honestly say I love this case. Its great, its very small compared to my old full tower nzxt which to me is better, I threw the max fans in it and the airflow is good but could be better if the front panel were open instead of the corner vents that it has. I appreciate the dust filters though.

If you are planning to overclock, generate alot of heat then I would get a better case based specifically on airflow because this is one of those cases that when you take off the side panel you gain 10 degrees in your favor. Unless you are ok with doing that every time you run your overclocked gpu I would get a case with better airfow. BUT that only really applies to your gpu because this case provides a place for a cooling block if you want liquid cooling for a cpu, so that doesnt really apply at all, its just the gpu really. Even then you can mod your gpu to have liquid cooling as well and run your cpu on a quality cpu cooler and youd be good with this case as well.

In my opinion this case is an amazing price/performance item, it will not let you down if you do buy it and put in the extra work to make whatever modification to suit your need. But, if you plan of drawing more heat ie. overclocking and you dont want to mod your gpu then I would say to look for a case specifically based on the airflow because with the front panel closed only to have air intake from the corner vents just isnt good enough fro that extra heat.

Angrypanda17 1 point 36 months ago

Thank you for the detailed response. This helps tremendously.

hingerson 1 point 36 months ago

yea I would like to know too, im planning on building this very soon.

Anarchoprimitiv 1 Build 2 points 36 months ago

The AMD R9 390 now holds the Videocard Price:Performance Crown...online retailers almost constantly have a few brands of 390's (usually always the Powercolor PCS+ and the XFX Double Dissipation) on sale for $275, sometimes even as low as $260. Considering this card edges out the GTX 970 at 1080p (both stock and Overclocked according to many professional reviews, i.e. Jayztwocents), wins at 1440p, has double the amount of VRAM, more memory bandwidth, and load and OC'ed temperatures below 70°C (specifically citing the XFX, Sapphire and Asus 390s) and on top of all that, it is usually anywhere from $25-$75 cheaper, it definitely has replaced the GTX 970.

*Something interesting to note is that currently many 390Xs are on sale for $350 while many GTX 970d are still going for $350 with the cheapest on sale versions going for $300, +/- a few dollars...it would seem very peculiar, or even absurd, to spend $330 on a GTX 970 when you can spend just $20 more and purchase a 390X which rivals the GTX 980; and the GTX 980 STILL goes for $500+!

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LonghornAlamo2040 1 point 37 months ago

No complaints.

Great build, Manirelli!

Arunjit 1 point 37 months ago

What would I need to change if I wanted to get a 6500?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 2 points 37 months ago

motherboard and memory

Arunjit 1 point 37 months ago

what motherboard would you recommend?

quinchy 1 Build 1 point 36 months ago

Most 1155 socket units would be ok, differences of course being how many expansion slots you need/want and case compatability. I've used just a mATX ASUS H110M-A but that only has two DIMM sockets and one PCI-Ex16 socket. Then again for the use I have planned and although I've used an overclockable CPU (i5-6400) I'm not looking to put in SLi cards etc

ThePa9an 1 Build 1 point 36 months ago

1151 socket*

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TSeel 1 point 34 months ago

The i5-6500 comes with a cooler.

The i5-6600K does not.

piemancoder 1 point 37 months ago

As always, awesome build Manirelli!

crazyfastrapper 1 point 37 months ago

Better 750W for 10$ less.

526christian 1 point 37 months ago

We held off on posting this one for a little while. The cost has gone up since that time.

Firecyclones 1 point 37 months ago

Hi, I'm looking to build my first computer. Does anybody know if this build is strong enough to run games like Witcher 3, CSGO, and League of Legends on high graphics? I don't know very much about computers yet. Also, is a cooling system (like the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO) needed?

Edit: Forgot to ask, I saw on Maingear that you can buy wifi adaptors or something with your build. Does this need one?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 2 points 37 months ago

You can run those with ease on this machine.

80-wattHamster 1 Build 2 points 37 months ago

You shouldn't need an aftermarket cooler unless you're going to try to overclock or want a quieter cooling solution. Re: WiFi, this board doesn't have it built in, so you'll need to add a card if you want wireless. Like all modern boards, it has ethernet, though.

Also, if anyone's reading this in the US around post date (2016/01/27), there's a combo on NE for a Gigabyte B85M-DS3H-A paired with various CPUs for a $30 discount plus a $10 mail-in, which ends up at $215+ship if you choose the 4460.

piemancoder 2 points 37 months ago

Edit: Forgot to ask, I saw on Maingear that you can buy wifi adaptors or something with your build. Does this need one?

The motherboard does not have wifi built in. If you want to use it, you could buy a pcie or usb adapter. It does support a wired connection though.

quinchy 1 Build 1 point 36 months ago

Don't worry about WiFi. Unless its impossible for some reason to run a Cat. 6 or Cat. 7 network cable to the machine. Hardwiring the PC always give better and more stable performance if you have good quality cable.

crankstewie 1 point 36 months ago

For CSGO and League of Legends you can find something that will easily run those that cost less than this, Witcher on the other hand you would want a build around this price range to run it on higher settings.

digah2750 1 point 37 months ago

I was like "what's my $500 PC doing not being at the top of the list". And then I looked slightly upward, and there it was, in all it's shimmering glory. A guide by none other than Ryan himself. In all seriousness, great build (and website). I haven't watched the video, but I can kind of already tell it's a really good informative video that demonstrates everything about building this PC. Because the link is in your guide. ;)

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digah2750 1 point 37 months ago

:^

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Alinar 1 point 37 months ago

I mostly play Arma III, but the main thing is that I like to stream on Twitch, and be able to play new games on at least medium settings. Do you guys think this will suit my needs? Or do I need to go upgrade a couple things to get where I need to be?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 2 points 37 months ago

This will do both without issue.

Alinar 1 point 37 months ago

thanks for the fast reply, I will be getting this pc very soon!

Trevreyes 2 points 36 months ago

If you want to play and stream at the same time then I'd recommend a i7 or a dedicated stream PC. My buddy has the exact build. His CPU has a hard time gaming and streaming at the same time. Stream performance and game performance are severely diminished when doing both at the same time.

Alinar 1 point 36 months ago

update: I ordered this exact build, plus a few other odds and ends. thanks for putting this together, saved me a lot of time trying to figure out what I needed.

TheReclaimerRx7 1 Build 1 point 37 months ago

check out my build

Chaostiix -5 points 37 months ago

I'd recommend getting the GTX 970 over the 390.

armingips 2 points 37 months ago

Because the 970 is worse right now, but Nvidia am i right...

Chaostiix -4 points 37 months ago

The 970 is much better. The 390 will heat up quickly, no aftermarket cooler or case with perfect airflow can change the fact that it will heat up quickly. It may reduce the time, but it will heat up. After 1-2 hours, the 390 will reduce its clock rate in order to maintain a stable temperature. This will reduce the overall graphical speed that your computer is able to produce.

armingips 2 points 37 months ago

That's some bullsh*t. The 390 only 3 or 4 degrees hotter than a 970.
Yes it is hotter, but it isn't too hot, the 290 was too hot, but only without an aftermarket cooler

526christian 3 points 37 months ago

The 390 only 3 or 4 degrees hotter than a 970.

That kind of depends. Some like the Asus R9 390 don't have very effective coolers for whatever card and will be worse off than many of either GPUs while others like the Sapphire R9 390 might run as cool or cooler than lots of 970s.

GreenBeanPie 1 point 37 months ago

The 390 will heat up quickly, no aftermarket cooler or case with perfect airflow can change the fact that it will heat up quickly. It may reduce the time, but it will heat up. After 1-2 hours, the 390 will reduce its clock rate in order to maintain a stable temperature.

Once the cooler is hot enough to output heat as fast as the GPU is producing it, the GPU will maintain a consistent temp. It will not heat up further.

Here, go to part 11 of the review and read the part about temperature:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sapphire-nitro-r9-390-8g-d5,4245.html

vagabond139 5 Builds 0 points 37 months ago

Where are you getting this misinformation from?

bclouse 1 point 37 months ago

Would highly recommend upping the PSU. The Gigabyte card alone requires 600w. I had this same experience buying off of PC Part Picker (great site, dont get me wrong) but the total wattage for mine was lower than yours. Turns out my GPU required a 750w alone... Great build though. :)

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 6 points 37 months ago

Manufacturer recommendations for GPUs are significantly overstated because they do not know the rest of the components in your build. A quality 550W like the units selected here will have no issue powering this machine.

bclouse 1 point 37 months ago

I'm sure you're not wrong, but my 650w would not start it up. So either faulty PSU or overpowered GPU requiring closer to what they need. I'd rather overshoot and spend an extra $40 than undershoot and wait 2 weeks like i'm currently doing. Food for thought moreso. Great site btw. Really love it.

Growliff1234 1 point 37 months ago

What GPU ? Also, what PSU ?

bclouse 1 point 37 months ago

Powercolor R9 390 8GB and was using a Corsair RM750 watt.

horsepuncher 4 points 37 months ago

The Gigabyte card alone requires 600w

The card itself will never use that much. Even on a synthetic torture load (FurMark) it peaks out at 370ish from the card alone. Real world card power draw will be much less than that. The 600 watt figure is for total system power, not what the card needs to run.

im using an EVGA 600B with my overclocked 390 and an i5 4690k with no problems.

Growliff1234 1 point 37 months ago

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor $199.98 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $49.99 @ Amazon
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $45.99 @ Amazon
Storage *Sandisk Z400s 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $70.99 @ NCIX US
Storage *Toshiba Product Series:DT01ACA 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $39.99 @ NCIX US
Video Card Gigabyte Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card $299.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case Corsair Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case $48.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply *Rosewill Hive 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $69.89 @ OutletPC
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $825.81
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-27 21:34 EST-0500

Not a better idea for 20 $ more ??

armingips 3 points 37 months ago

Do not listen to Chaostriix

Chaostiix -7 points 37 months ago

If you wished to be gaming, you'd want a h170 board. Also, you'd want a GTX 970.

vagabond139 5 Builds 4 points 37 months ago

The motherboard selection really has nothing to do with gaming, a $40 board will be just as good as a $400 board when it comes to gaming.

Chaostiix -2 points 37 months ago

If you'd read more about h110 vs h170, you'd realize that it does. http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2099-intel-chipset-comparison-z170-h170-h110

vagabond139 5 Builds 3 points 37 months ago

I have read plenty, that doesn't prove your point at all.

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Boosticated 1 point 37 months ago

Thinking about building my first PC. Saw a few of my frequented games already listed and this seems like a good first build for me. I was wondering if anyone could give me any suggestions on a wifi adapter or does it even matter which one I get?

grizzlyman 2 Builds 2 points 37 months ago

If you are playing online you should do your best to wire your PC with a hard wire.

Boosticated 2 points 37 months ago

Thanks for the response! I'm in an apartment and our router is basically on the completely opposite side of the place. Maybe a 100+ ft. ether net cord haha

quinchy 1 Build 1 point 36 months ago

Yeah, just run a good quality (Cat. 6 or even Cat. 7) Network cable. If you get a pack of telephone cord clips you can run it from the router and tack it along the skirting board at the base of the walls etc...bit of monkey work but worth it so people don't trip over it! I've never used WiFi on a PC, its just not worth it with a usual 802 transfer rate being "ok" but the chances of sudden drop outs, loss of signal etc...just not worth the small cost of that network cable.

eternalstudio 1 point 37 months ago

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JNA337K?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

This things is amazing. A little pricey though. But if you must have wifi, and you want to take advantage of 5ghz, this is a great pick. Being able to detach the antennas and set them up separately can make the difference in getting no-some signal to good-great signal.

And if you're trying to color coordinate your PC red, this fits wonderfully.

If money is an issue, honestly any 20-30 dollar wireless adapter will work just fine. I would recommend getting a PCI card though. I detest USB wifi adapters.

Boosticated 1 point 37 months ago

Appreciate the response! Not so worried about the color coordination, just want the best connection possible. This definitely looks like a reasonable adapter considering I was looking at about $50 adapter anyways.

So do I need a PCI card with the product you linked? and if so any suggestions? Sorry for all the questions, very new to this.

eternalstudio 1 point 37 months ago

No worries!

Yea, if you were going to spend 50 bucks, go ahead and spend the extra 10 dollars and get this one.

You will just need an open pcie x1 slot to plug it into. it is powered from there by the motherboard. Double check your motherboard and make sure you have one on your motherboard (most all motherboards have them now days)

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/lga775/pex1-slots-s.jpg

That's a link to what a PCIe x1 slot looks like. It's the little black slots in between the white slots.

Hope that helps!

eternalstudio 1 point 37 months ago

LOL at NCIX US price graph on that video card.. basically they price it competitively during holiday sales. Nice budget build btw!

Sellular 1 point 37 months ago

I would recommend the MSI build of the R9 390 cause it is probably the best custom cooler out there for this card

vagabond139 5 Builds 0 points 37 months ago

The Powercolor PSC+ actually has the best cooler but its loud.

526christian 1 point 37 months ago

I'd say the Sapphire does especially when you consider that factory overclock.

vagabond139 5 Builds 1 point 37 months ago

True. I forgot about that.

Chaostiix -7 points 37 months ago

No 390 is worth buying, 970 wins.

Chaostiix -8 points 37 months ago

No 390 is worth buying, 970 wins.

armingips 2 points 37 months ago

What is wrong with you troll?

vagabond139 5 Builds 2 points 37 months ago

He is looking to get downvoted a lot apparently. He is basing his "fact" on false information.

armingips 1 point 37 months ago

Yeah. I mean the 970 IS a great card. But right now I would go with the 390.
If you really want shadow play or something else Nvidia has to offer, okay, else the 390 is stronger.
Also it depends on what games you play, in some games the 390 wins in others the 970.

vagabond139 5 Builds 1 point 37 months ago

Yeah its a great card, I would gladly take one for free or even $250.

Mariomash 1 Build 1 point 37 months ago

You can make slight changes, but her wise this is perfect, like some people are saying the PSU is kinda on the expensive side :P

But other then that it's dang good (y)

PloniAlmoni 1 point 37 months ago

I've read the Gigabyte r9 390 has serious issues with black screening... better to get Sapphire, MSI, or Powercolor, all of which are available for nearly the same price.

Chaostiix -5 points 37 months ago

or GTX 970

Torinstorm 1 point 37 months ago

Would the Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard be a reasonable replacement for the mobo in this list?

526christian 1 point 37 months ago

Yes.

jskiez25 1 point 37 months ago

Hi! I'm planning to buy the same processor i5 4460 with MSI H97 Gaming 3 motherboard. Also MSI R9 380 4GB but I'm worried if my PSU EVGA 80+ bronze watts can support the power consumption of these parts. Any advise?

526christian 1 point 37 months ago

It'd help a ton to know what power supply you're using.

jskiez25 1 point 37 months ago

Hi, I'm using EVGA 80+ Bronze 500watss PSU

526christian 1 point 37 months ago

It should work assuming the only differences are the GPU, motherboard, and PSU. But if it wouldn't kill you to do so (and you didn't order the PSU already), I'd look for something better.

jskiez25 1 point 37 months ago

The PSU is from my old PC. Also I will not perform any overclocking. May I know if this build can handle NBA, Dota 2 and CS Global in high resolution?

526christian 1 point 37 months ago

That depends. Are you talking about something like 4k or 1080p?

OfficialKevinRudd 1 point 37 months ago

Hi new to pc building so this might be a stupid question but I was wondering why the price for the video card and motherboard aren't listed?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 37 months ago

On the USA version of the site everything should have prices. Any chance you removed retailers from showing pricing in your preferences?

OfficialKevinRudd 1 point 37 months ago

Switched to the US version of the site and it's showing now, thanks! Also no, haven't adjusted any preferences.

Calvinjessop 1 point 37 months ago

Mine does that all the time too, I don't know why, i think its the Australian version.

Calvinjessop 1 point 37 months ago

Very similar to the one i am putting together! http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/rT8Xxr

Zeobro 1 point 37 months ago

Question: Why the i5-4460 and not the less expensive and higher clocked i5-4590?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 37 months ago

Prices on the 4460 were lower at the time of purchase.

Zeobro 1 point 37 months ago

Oh, well prices changed fast, then, haha.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 37 months ago

This build was purchased and filmed around black friday.

526christian 1 point 37 months ago

There's no way you can be active this often. If you're human (unlikely) you must be going off of naps alone to get your sleep. This would be very tiring and difficult.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 37 months ago

Energy drinks work wonders.

Zeobro 1 point 37 months ago

I see. I just assumed it was a recent 2016 build.

gamerboi 1 point 37 months ago

Hey! Love the piece you've put up here. Just wanted to ask if there's a lower priced Video card that I can get and also what FPS I would get on Dota 2.

Grantv123 1 point 37 months ago

Nice build!

jdelbs18 5 Builds 1 point 37 months ago

Upvoted for Left Shark!

vdjoric 1 Build 1 point 37 months ago

I would personally add another $30 and upgrade to 16gb ram @1866mhz. It isn't crucial (no pun intended lol) but looks good overall!

Kumiko 1 point 36 months ago

one of the best builds I've ever seen for the price. Good job :3

Barros 1 point 36 months ago

Very helpful guide. Any chance that any of the parts will get damaged if I ship it to brazil?

FootPoot 1 point 35 months ago

I don't know about international shipping, but everything arrived for me in the states well boxed and taken care of. I have no doubt that it could survive an international journey. Good luck on your build!

Barros 1 point 35 months ago

Thanks

Kley 1 point 36 months ago

So I'm new to the idea of building a custom pc and was wondering like does the pc just work normally if I have all the parts and connect it to a monitor? What if I don't have an OS? Does it need one to turn on in the first place? Are there other steps to take after putting the parts together? Planned on getting a pre built from Digital Storm but its pretty expensive so looking at other options. Help would be appreciated.

Currently using a Lenovo y510p

quinchy 1 Build 1 point 36 months ago

With no OS only BIOS and DOS options will be available to you. There's always the opportunity to obtain a Linux or now even a copy of SteamOS (which I think is also free?), however without an OS you will still be able to check basic operation...does it turn on and not all go bang. Naturally the OS of choice is Windows if you want the biggest game selection.

quinchy 1 Build 1 point 36 months ago

Actually...I'm not 100% sure SteamOS is a stand alone full operating system. Someone with more knowledge will have to comment but as its also Linux based I'm assuming it is, but obviously limits you to playing games cleared for its use via your Steam Library only.

Chris1981 1 point 36 months ago

What os are you choosing? Im doing a similar build. And im inbetween on os systems.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 2 points 36 months ago

Windows 10.

Chris1981 1 point 36 months ago

Tks do you happen to know if is will run 1440p or 4k? In some games? I wont be overclocking i know nothing about it. I just wanna build a gaming pc under 800 , os extra. Mainly for games and movies intent 4k with 4k tv . Im a noob . :/ learning though never hurts to ask thanks either way.

sergiomoraesj 1 point 36 months ago

What would I have to swap/change to make this build useful for video/photo editing, and graphic design work in general? Thanks

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 2 points 36 months ago

Honestly a lot would likely change. i7/xeon, differen/more ram depeding on the cpu change, change of gpu based on software. Your best bet would be to post on the create a part list for me section of the site.

sergiomoraesj 1 point 36 months ago

Thank you!

Milkman_ 1 point 36 months ago

Would I be able to take the SSD out?

jkeasley 1 point 36 months ago

Nice build, I would try going with dual channel instead and also go with the i5 6500. Love the build though, will give it an upvote

quinchy 1 Build 1 point 36 months ago

This is very similar to the build I'm doing now, main change is that I've managed to move to Skylake set (i5-6400 processor) and I've chosen a smaller SSD purely as it was on sale during Black Friday last year. The only other change I have is I've chosen an Aerocool DS case because not only is it a cube set which I find more visually pleasing but also strips down almost completely to allow access points via front, sides and top to aid easy install and cable management. Nice build here and I'll be using the video to help me in mine.

JamezRebelStudios 1 point 36 months ago

This is really a powerful machine for just a little bit over $800 USD great job. -^ Now i'm really considering building this and replacing my ivy bridge system.

TheReclaimerRx7 1 Build 1 point 36 months ago

too bad thats not the real price

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

Everything on the part list and prices is accurate. If you aren't seeing prices then it likely is not available in your region or you have filtered out retailers that have components for sale.

TheReclaimerRx7 1 Build 1 point 36 months ago

yea you're right but it doesn't include an OS, and what sucks that some don't come with free shipping. And some aren't in stock. Also the taxes are gonna bring this build into the thousands.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 2 points 36 months ago

Taxes are entirely dependent on location and can be set in your user preferences.

TheReclaimerRx7 1 Build 1 point 36 months ago

oh I didn't know that.

systemblower 1 point 36 months ago

Wouldn't the G3258 be almost identical for a processor choice, for $100 cheaper? Correct me if I'm wrong but they have very very similar performance. If I'm right about this please tell me I'm still learning about computers and parts but this seems like a huge oversight. Edit: I propose using this combo. Saving about $115 between the processor and motherboard (before $10 rebate).

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

The performance difference between them is quite massive. I would definitely not recommend the G3258 in a system like this.

systemblower 1 point 36 months ago

Would it be fine with, say the r9 380? Or is that still pushing it? Otherwise what other processors should I consider?

Dabeavis 3 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

I think the bare minimum for this build would be an i3 since it has 2 additional threads, but still not as good as an i5.

IAMTHEPIXEL 1 point 36 months ago

great guide!

Hey if you have the time could you check out my msi build. http://pcpartpicker.com/guide/cKnTwP/msi-build-your-dream-pc-guidethe-pixel-eater

lalights 1 point 36 months ago

Had 3 asrock mobos fail on me. Might just have bad luck.

vastempires44 1 point 36 months ago

850 evo ssd instead and I might actually build this someday

destess 1 point 36 months ago

I definitely would've gone with a Z170 board with an i3-6100 for gaming, but the difference in power isn't much different anyways.

maiver 1 point 36 months ago

Hey guys! Noob question: I'm looking at trying this build and hoping to save some money by combining it with some old parts. On my compatibility list, under "unsure" is this old HIPRO hp-w700wc3 power supply. Yea or nay?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817174028

maiver 1 point 36 months ago

Update on this. Everything was going great w/ my antique power supply until I went to plug in the graphics card. Card wanted one 8 pin and one 6 pin PCI-e cables. Alas, my PSU had four 6 pins, but no 8 pin. I tried connecting two 6 pins, but it didn't work. Also, my PSU was huge! And the power cables were fixed and couldn't be removed--resulting in a super crammed case.

Moral of the story: The watts on a PSU aren't the only thing to consider. Needs to be the right size for your case and have the correct connectors. Also, if you're a noob, just buy what's on the list :D

Bait12 1 point 36 months ago

I just recently built this PC and I love it, however I'm having airflow problems. While playing Rust or ARK my GPU temps will shoot up to 85°C (or higher, I don't want to wait and see). When playing Fallout 4 or Battlefield 4 it will linger around the 65°C range for a while, then eventually reach 75°C. It must be an airflow problem, because after reaching 75°C I took my side panel off and the temps immediately began to drop while playing Fallout 4, all the way to 65°C. Can anyone recommend fans for the case?

pc14213 1 point 36 months ago

Yes this case needs all fans to maintain good airflow.

Orion555 1 point 35 months ago

AMD cards are notorious for High Temps and Big Wattage suckers. Yes the temps can be a bit extreme and the card can get hot. But the drivers will get better - promise!

GTX 970 to the rescue!

noemailman 1 point 36 months ago

What a great build

TheMMC 1 point 36 months ago

I would prefer an NVIDIA-based Video Card, dump the SSD, and upgrade the CPU. Plus you can downgrade the Power Supply and still have an efficient, all-around reliable system. Also, with the money saved from all that, you could add another Memory Card and hit below $600 assuming you look around for the best deals around here.

neural_physics 3 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

That's a really cheap price for a 390 build, almost makes me regret paying so much more for my 4790k / 390x build. Almost. I still think all the extra goodies I picked up make the extra cash worth it.

Pladdaah 3 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

the 4790k will last longer then then the i5 due to the fact that it can be OC'd and it has HT, so dont worry

mac36220 1 point 36 months ago

Hi, I have already ordered the case, CPU and the motherboard for this build. I am wondering though (if I have some extra money to spend), Is there a better graphics card and Memory (16 Gb) that would be compatible with the components I already ordered?

Zerotech09 1 point 36 months ago

Would this work with a gtx 980?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

yup

DJGamingX 1 point 36 months ago

Very nice!

JaegerBudgie 1 Build 1 point 36 months ago

What's the most demanding game that this beastly thing can run? Also, is it recommended to change to a EVGA GTX 970 2.0+? Would there be a loss or gain in performance?

dennis.d 1 point 36 months ago

be cooler if the parts were on a filter to match colors as well, is that possible?

Peanj 1 point 36 months ago

Hi all. I live in Australia, and am looking at getting this build. The newegg combo deal is not available in aus, so my question is: What would be the best way to go about getting this build? Component by component? Deifferent sites? other suggestions? Thanks guys. Also, gpu and motherboard included, how much in aus dollars do you expect this build to cost? I think Geekaziod said about $1200?

The build looks bloody good by the way.

Thea_Queen 1 point 36 months ago

PC building noob here, what would be some viable options to put 16GB RAM in this PC? Every time I try, I get compatibility issues.

526christian 1 point 36 months ago

What kind of compatibility issue?

Pladdaah 3 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

Solid bulid, but a few things could be done better :)

For example:

your PSU is oversized (a decent 500W PSU is more then enough: for example BeQuiet's 500W Straight Power E10)

The Crucial Bx100's Controller isnt the best, Better take the Mx200.

Gretz, Plad

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

500W would be pushing it for a system like this without even overclocking. I would always recommend at least 100W over the listed amount on our site.

Pladdaah 3 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

nope it wouldnt.

Im running a Xeon e3 @ 4 GHz | a r9 390 @ 1150Mhz | 8 Drives and im not even making the 400 watts in full benchmark!! load.

normal gaming load is 200-350W.

A decent 500W PSU is enough and is capable of running every single GPU system -these times are gone.

Orion555 1 point 35 months ago

I'd be hesitant to even go with a 600w PSU with one of these hot devils.
You want a free 200w gap.

Think of it as a car that goes 150 mph and your driving it non stop at 140 mph with that AMD GPU. It's 99 degrees in that car in the hot summer with no air conditioning.

If you would rather be driving at 139 mph with the windows down - then get a GTX 970.

Pladdaah 3 Builds 1 point 35 months ago

Get your facts right, bro :)

tangoXomega 1 point 36 months ago

You could have gone Skylake at this price.

notraxx 1 point 36 months ago

Has anyone tried this build with the Sapphire or MSI card? Does the R9 390 from other brands fit in this case?

grantv719 1 point 36 months ago

I don't have this build but I'm pretty certain it does. I heard the MSI one is quieter than the gigabyte.

Pown 1 point 36 months ago

Ive checked 3 canadian sites and the motherboard you posted is not avaiable, which other one would you suggest thats around the same price?

williamyoon 1 point 36 months ago

Nice job using the parametric filters to best fit the needs of individuals. +1

Alinar 1 point 36 months ago

I ordered the graphics card and it should be here today. but after ordering I realized that there is a Radeon R9 390 Windforce and Radeon R390 G1 Gaming. Is there any difference in power? or is it just HDMI ports and cooling differences? because the G1 gaming says its almost 50% off and the Windforce doesn't say anything about being on sale, but its basically the same price. thanks for any help! EDIT: link to amazon http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZGF3UAQ/ref=twister_B015U3QRQ2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

pc14213 1 point 36 months ago

Always use the reviews from people as a strong factor when determining the best option. The gigabyte reviews are alarmingly suspect, if I were you I would eliminate that as an option. In your question you only have two options and the are both gigabyte so I think that answer is pretty obvious, choose a different brand.

I chose the XFX version, and the reviews were mixed as well. I got lucky though, no coil whine while other werent so lucky and had to go through the process of RMA. You can roll the dice, but at the end of the day if I had the choice I wouldve went with the MSI version because of the overwhelming positive experience people have had with that version.

jake.sinden 1 point 36 months ago

i would stretch for an i5 4690k

pc14213 1 point 36 months ago

Maybe, if I were to build it again I would stick with the i5 4460, only because this cpu is an awesome performer for the price. I wouldnt see any real benefit spending more unless you want to spend alot more and get an overclockable i7.

grantv719 1 point 36 months ago

I'm looking to build a new PC and I was wondering how this build handles games like Witcher 3, Fallout 4 and Gta V. Frame rates and on what settings?

pc14213 1 point 36 months ago

Ive only played Fallout 4 so far and my impressions are that it handles the game exceptionally. In the exact meaning that it isnt going to run perfect, there were moments when I had some stuttering, specifically when its a certain weather thats cpu intensive (ithink) it does seem to stress the system. Now, Ive done serious stress testing outside of this game, and I can tell you that the combo of this build at newegg handles extremely well in the benchmarking phase. The only really under performed component is the ssd. I would like to upgrade that maybe.

Back to Fallout 4, this game puts $3000 computers to a slow stutter, its poorly optimized and in my opinion not a viable reference for determining the max performance of this build. WIth that being said, I run this game 95% of the time on 1080 Ultra with no issues hitting 60-70 fps easy. After I close the game I check MSI afterburner, and everytime I have the gpu has never hit over 60 degrees which based on my fan stress testing leads me to believe its not even pushing it over 60-70%. As for the cpu it will hit 100% but never consistently its always occasionly and its never reached over 50 degrees on a stock cooler. So, all in all I think this build handles pretty damn good.

Alex999 1 point 36 months ago

Looking at the ASRock H97M motherboards prices and specs, the Pro4 and Anniversary versions are cheaper than the basic one suggested in this build. In Canada, the difference is even more significant $30 + 16% tax. They also support 32GB instead of 16GB. The Pro4 offers the maximum number of features.

Here is the question from a newbie: which one would bring more bang for the buck and what should I consider looking at these 3 options? My understanding (probably faulty) is that I would pay more for much less. I would like to build this system but with the Pro4 instead. Any incompatibility?

pc14213 1 point 36 months ago

I can tell you from one noob to another, I built the combo of this build from newegg and that comes with the pro4 motherboard. So far Ive had zero issues with it and it looks great in the case too.

Alex999 1 point 36 months ago

Thank you very much! :) I will then go for the Pro4.

Did you encounter any issues with the Gigabyte Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card? As I posted on this thread below, it got so many bad reviews on different sites, especially Amazon. I will try to switch for a Sapphire, but I'm still not sure about the form factor (it is a mammoth with 3 fans that might only fit on a regular ATX). Love the Radeon R9 390 specs, but overheating, helicopter noises, screen glitches and infinite reboots force be to go with Sapphire or MSI. Gigabytes seems to have screwed up on this one. Hopefully your system is stable. Just monitor the temp and make sure to put plenty of fans. ;)

kollinkoko 1 Build 1 point 36 months ago

I built my rig with the same GPU, CPU, and motherboard, it works great!

Proward 1 point 36 months ago

I'd rather go with the 650w EVGA PSU because it's the same price and its modular, but overall amazing build.

Alex999 1 point 36 months ago

The Gigabyte Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card seems to have extremely bad reviews on most sites, especially Amazon, here are some review titles:

Some cards have major issue and won't allow you to shut down your PC.

Computer would not shut down without pulling the plug.

and the card did overheated easily, in fact faster than any of its past

I wish gigabyte would've put 3 fans on it like most of the other windforce models

Bad Flicker banding across screens.

Great in-game performance, horrible heat management and fan noise.

Can almost boil water, doubles as an electric jet engine.

The worst of the worst

The 3mm sound jack is dying

On most forums they mention that they had to switch to Sapphire or MSI. I'm convinced I will regret this purchase, many returns or burned graphic cards within a few months.

My question: If I buy the recommended one (on most sites) Sapphire version, a bit more expensive but cooler, quieter and stable, will this mammoth fit in that configuration? Some say it will overlap the memory slots. If not, what R9 390 card would nicely fit in this system? This is my first micro-ATX system and I'm almost tempted to go ATX instead. Thanks for the suggestions guys.

Orion555 1 point 35 months ago

Well AMD GPUs burn hot. Real hot. That ain't a train going by - why it's coil whine in my GPU.

Yep - there are about 2X the returns and RMAs on 380x and 390x as GTX 960s and 970x which appear to be the safer brand names.

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Alex999 1 point 36 months ago

Sorry, I will clarify. Same as this build, I only changed the motherboard for the Pro4 version (changes the DIMMs position relative to the PCI slots).

Motherboard: ASRock H97M Micro ATX LGA1150 Pro4 .

Case: Corsair Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower.

So I would go for Sapphire instead of Gigabytes.

I asked the question because everyone mentions to be careful with this amazing card that requires more room and often stretches over the memory latches and potentially the DIMMs themselves. The motherboard pictures clearly show the first PCI slot lined up with the DIMM latches. On some motherboards they install the memory first and the card will lie on the locked latches. Others had to opt for another card. I did not find any build with my setup.

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Alex999 1 point 36 months ago

Thanks, I will look at their dimensions and try to find similar successful builds.

gameranx 1 point 36 months ago

I think u should not have got a 390 gigabyte version, because it is know gigabyte and ASUS for amd is like bad quality and undermining performance, but still I like your pc and how it has some good combination, I like that good job.

Effichent_But_Cheap 1 point 36 months ago

Could have 16gb of ram also wheres the cooler?

526christian 1 point 36 months ago

If you're talking about the CPU cooler you can use the stock one.

LekaSpear 1 point 36 months ago

r9 vs 970 what do you prefer

LlamasplaygameS 2 points 36 months ago

r9 because the 970's 3.5GB of vram will bottleneck you when games start utilizing 4GB of vram

Orion555 1 point 35 months ago

The 970 always. TDP is way lower, Temp is way lower, More stable of a card. 970 wins.

mrtwatson 1 point 36 months ago

If I was playing fallout 4 what FPS would this PC build give? in all scenario's such as fighting, being inside, exploring the city or wastelands

LlamasplaygameS 1 point 36 months ago

I love this build! Finally someone who doesn't spend $80 on 8GB of RAM, $200 on the mobo, and $150 on the case! Great way to save money for your core components like your CPU and GPU. Nice job!

Check my build, very similar and around the same price for better performance: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/LlamasplaygameS/saved/3BzJ7P

EdgarV 1 point 36 months ago

Hey guys I need some help. So I'm pretty new to the computer gaming world, this was be my 1st build. So I went straight of the parts from this list, since it's my first built I'd be terrified of buying incompatible parts. Well anyways onto the point, I got the pc up and running, installed windows 10 with no issues, but I can't seem to find the drivers for the graphics card. I go to there cite and download them but I can't seem to get it running. So can i get help on where to find the driver for it? Also I haven't entered the Bios.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 2 points 36 months ago

I'd suggest making a post in our troubleshooting forum.

Sworean 1 point 36 months ago

https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/FRCmP6/edit/#view=PXdypg Manirelli would this build work. I am kind of new to building computers

That-Geek-in-the-Corner 1 point 36 months ago

Much cheaper than buying a vr ready build, plus it comes with a ssd, nice!

DanielPKY 1 point 36 months ago

Why does it feel as if you copied my build because my build is the same but diffrent psu and case

killerzzh1 1 point 36 months ago

It have the same ssd, hdd, videocard (msi one), cpu and the same power supply. System works very well.

Lex_B 1 point 36 months ago

I love the selection for your case, not too expensive, has plenty of space for expansion, not too flashy. Good air flow too when fans are added. Cool! (literally)

Kastley 1 point 36 months ago

I have over $1000 USD to spend, where should I put this money for best bang for buck?

pc14213 1 point 36 months ago

This build is a very good price/performance build.

FootPoot 1 point 35 months ago

I was in the same boat as you, man. This was my first major build and I was right around 1000 to spend. I decided to go up from some of the 750 dollar builds because for just a couple more hundred the performance gap is huge.

I honestly have no regrets about buying this bundle. I haven't encountered any of the problems that people keep bringing up (ASRock Mobo not working out of box, huge coil whine with the 390, etc.) I am having a blast and rocking all my games in ultra. For a beginner, I couldn't have asked for anything more than this pc. I hope this helps you with your question!

FUSED_UP_SANTTU 1 point 36 months ago

Hi guys, I'm new here and also new at building PC's Just wanted to ask if the PC would have any compatability issues if changed the graphics car from the Gigabyte Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card to the MSI AMD R7 370 Gaming Graphics Card (4 GB, OC, PCI-E 3.0, GDDR5, DVI-I, HDMI). Any answers would do. Thanks!

amfromla 1 point 36 months ago

Noob here: I have bought the package from New Egg and want to see what else I need such as case fans, cables etc. If I need fans, are there any specific ones recommended for this build? Thanks for your help.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

If you bought the bundle you will have everything you need.

amfromla 1 point 36 months ago

Thanks for the quick response!

pc14213 1 point 36 months ago

For the 88R case I would take the drive mounts out because it blocks the GPU fan intake. Once I did that I gained a massive amount of temp headroom. I went from hitting 80+ to not even breaking 70 overclocked. I would also advise getting 4 more 120 mm fans, two for the top (one closest to the back for exhaust , one closest to the front intake) two in the front of the case both intake, and the stock in the back of the case kept as exhaust. I would also get dust filters for them, this case can get pretty dusty, but after some filters it keeps very clean. For the HDD I mounted it to the bottom of the case, and put my SSDs in the slots on the frame behind the MOBO. I love this build, its small, looks good, and kicks *** at gaming.

whitechapelkilla 1 point 35 months ago

i only found 1 extra fan heading for cpu 2 fan, how do i add 2 more fans for a total of 5?

amfromla 1 point 35 months ago

My son and I built this over two nights - about an hour a night. To my utter amazement, when I turned it on it worked! My son has already logged many hours on it and it runs great. It is very quiet. I did have some issues with running the power cables around the back of the case as it was tricky closing the back so I ended up running some through the main compartment. The main parts that were difficult were plugging the cables into the motherboard as it was not always obvious from the YouTube video where they were actually being plugged. That being said, we would not have been able to do it without the very helpful video. The whole project really wasn't that hard - I have had more trouble with some large Legos than this. Thank you very much Manirelli - this was a great learning experience to share with my son.

djsmith4 1 point 36 months ago

I am having trouble getting this machine on the internet. Running windows 7. What drivers should I download? Seemingly the ones I've tried are not working

djsmith4 1 point 36 months ago

Actually I made it online. Now I cant get any sound to work. Urgh

Nothinbuttru7h 1 Build 1 point 36 months ago

What kind of 1080p benchmarks can you get with this build for newer games like GTA V, Battlefront, Overwatch, and MGS V?

demon1231 1 point 36 months ago

this is within my price range but i kinda wanted a different tower is there anything in particular i have to look for? sorry first time lol

ninjaintrouble 1 point 36 months ago

can i replace the r9 390 with a r9 390x ? does it cause heating problems ? please i need to know :(

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 36 months ago

Doublecheck power consumption but otherwise you are all set.

bumblybum 1 point 36 months ago

How would this rig handle The Witcher 3 on high settings?

Aniallater 1 point 35 months ago

Hi, I was wondering if I could swap out the r9 390 8GB with the r9 380 4GB version.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 35 months ago

Sure!

Aniallater 1 point 35 months ago

Thanks, great build.

Xephyr117 1 point 35 months ago

Could someone name an optical drive that would fit in this build? Also would I be able to substitute the 390 for a EVGA GTX 960?

Orion555 1 point 35 months ago

Dvd player - any asus or sony will do.

GTX 960 is great for this build and a GTX 970 is even better.

The R9 390 firestarter might cook that 550 PSU after about 4 months.

lopez0928 1 point 35 months ago

1 Intel Boxed Core I5-6600K 3.50 GHz, 6 M Processor Cache 6 for LGA 1151 (BX80662I56600K) $249.99 1 MSI Computer Motherboard Micro ATX DDR4 LGA 1151 B150M BAZOOKA

$84.99

1 Kingston HyperX FURY 8GB 1600MHz DDR3 CL10 DIMM - Blue (HX316C10F/8)

$34.49

EVGA 600 B1 80+ BRONZE, 600W Continuous Power, 3 Year Warranty Power Supply 100-B1-0600-KR by EVGA

$44.99

You save:
$25.00 (36%)

1 Seagate 1TB Desktop HDD SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive (ST1000DM003)

$49.99

1 ZOTAC GeForce GTX 970 4GB ZT-90101-10P

$289.99

1 Rosewill Black SECC Steel USB 3.0 Mid Tower Computer Case Cases REDBONE U3

$44.99

1 Cooler Master Hyper T4 CPU Cooler with 4 Direct Contact Heatpipes RR-T4-18PK-R1

$24.99

total-824.24

Sphyloid 1 Build 1 point 34 months ago

DDR3 RAM is not compatible with that CPU, Hyper 212 Evo cools better at a couple bucks more, R9 390 is better than the 970, other than that its on point. Also look at the Thermaltake V21 case, its badass, but you need a compatible motherboard.

PCsquared 1 Build 1 point 35 months ago

This build is VR ready is you just upgrade the processor to an i7 4770 or better. Though, that would make it more than 800 dollars.

pc14213 1 point 35 months ago

Its already VR ready :) With green scores on the steam VR test.

kazmahd 1 point 35 months ago

Can this motherboard support another SSD?

Nison545 1 point 35 months ago

Does the combo deal by Newegg still give the same performance?

Necromonger 3 Builds 1 point 35 months ago

OMG this is so similar to my girlfriend's build.. still ongoing. I think I have to update her build log.

Undead_King422 1 point 35 months ago

Seems like it would be kind of loud if you didn't get some more watts on the power supply.

Chuck_x 1 point 35 months ago

I am about to build my first computer, but I am worried about how long it will last in the way of being able to play new releases, can anyone confirm that it will still run new titles in 3 or 4 years?

indra19 1 point 35 months ago

hello sir, im from malaysia. can u give some review on your own about gaming pc in the middle class, and how much price would it take to customize it ?

quality898 1 point 35 months ago

Nice build! Been working on something similar for myself.

Blockishsky 2 Builds 1 point 35 months ago

I have an i7 - 2600k in my hands right now. Would it be worth it to use the i5 4460 or to use the 2600k. I have a gigabyte ga-z68a-d3h-b3 motherboard along with it. Should I use these or stick to this guide? Also would these fit into the case?

Jophiel 1 point 35 months ago

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/b/Rp6XsY is this pc better then the one you have built?

Thanks in advance and nice build

kielchaos 1 point 35 months ago

Great build! I just recommending replacing the ASRock H97M with the ASRock H97M PRO4 for 10 more dollars, 2 extra RAM slots, double RAM capacity, hundreds more reviews, etc. I used this build as a baseline for my own that I'm putting together tonight!

S0nny_WarBucks58 3 Builds 1 point 35 months ago

What is the parametric filter?

Pcjulian12343 2 points 35 months ago

It set limits on what you can have when selecting an item

EX: hdd, 7200 RPM, 1tb,select lower price set filter in right hand corner

BOOM thats it filter added

S0nny_WarBucks58 3 Builds 1 point 35 months ago

Oh, I thought that is what it was, I just never saw mine say "Choosed with the parametric filter."

Thank you bro.

Pcjulian12343 1 point 35 months ago

Np, they save lives!(money)

S0nny_WarBucks58 3 Builds 1 point 35 months ago

Hah, yeah.

Pcjulian12343 1 point 35 months ago

SO...MANY...COMMENTS...*faints

He-Man 1 point 35 months ago

Can a micro-ATX motherboard fit in my old Mid-ATX case? Like are the screw sizes and dimensions the same?

pc14213 1 point 35 months ago

I dont think the HDD would fit with the r9 390. According to a video review with a HDD installed it only leaves around 8" for a GPU.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 35 months ago

We already built it. You can see the build process in the description.

JacobGunther12 1 point 35 months ago

Your bottlenecking...

colenelson51 1 point 35 months ago

Wicked build! There is just something about slamming a R9 380 into the MicroATX platform! Ii proves size isn't everything!

Barros 1 point 35 months ago

How many memory slots are there for this motherboard?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 35 months ago

2 slots.

Sphyloid 1 Build 1 point 34 months ago

Why do people keep throwing this locked CPU on their builds? Seriously bump up the price $30-50 and get an i5 4690k, there is a reason 666 people rated it 5 stars on amazon.

maor97 1 point 34 months ago

If I put 16gb memory instead of 8 will it be alright??

maor97 1 point 34 months ago

or i get another 8 gb ram memory as you used in the build?

Kombos 1 point 34 months ago

why not a duel channel for the memory ur already at 800 dollars XD

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 34 months ago

fraction of a percentage performance increase for dual channel over a single DIMM. Basically, buy what is cheapest and fits the theme you are looking for.

Economist 1 point 34 months ago

Hello Ryan and everybody, Anybody having startup issues with this build? Do you need to update the bios after putting this all together, and is there a good place to ask for advice regarding troubleshooting for this build?

It starts up more frequently without issue when I am using the integrated graphics, and I used to be able to get it started with the R9, however recently I haven't been able to get it to start with the R9 at all. No other issues other than startup and not being able to use the R9.

Thank you, Connor.

MiniMaster7 1 point 31 months ago

The site says that the motherboard here (ASRock H97M Micro ATX LGA1150) isn't being sold anywhere, but this, newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157512 seems to be the same thing. Is it the same mobo? If not, what motherboard should I use instead?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 31 months ago

That is the H97M Pro4. They are different boards.

chaserr 0 points 35 months ago

Don't like the fact that he used an older cpu that can't overclock. Also the radeon is a bad pick unless you don't like pumped up graphics and high framerates. Although this is great for the monthly gamer that doesn't care about graphics or framerates but likes to waste his money. the componet choice is not great. 3 out of 10 points.

pc14213 1 point 35 months ago

LMAO. No, this is not even close to being true. Just because you think the r9 390 is a bad card doesnt make it so. Everyone knows its a beast, and the i5 4460 is an amazing gaming cpu according to, well everyone who actually owns it.

chaserr 1 point 35 months ago

Okay I agree with the cpu statement. But no seriously the r9 390 is a bad card.

P30PartBuilder 0 points 35 months ago

850 Evo SSD and skylake(i5 6400 + H170 + 8GB ddr4) and GTX 970 makes this build better.

Capt_Derpy -1 points 36 months ago

This seems like a good build, and for the price of the individual parts, the CPU and the graphics card are great for their price. However the RAM is very slow at 1333 MHz and being only DDR3, I would greatly recommend upgrading that. Also for the same price or cheaper, you could get a much better power supply, as the one included is too close to the estimated wattage (For my liking). I would recommend At Least a 600 Watt, and you don't need a gold rated, as 80+ Bronze should do the trick, and will decrease the price. Lastly the modular part of it is up to the person buying it.

The build seems pretty good, and good job finding the GPU, however there are ways to make it a little better. Hope this was helpful in some way.

Sphyloid 1 Build 1 point 34 months ago

"Only DDR3" "Slow", you can overclock memory too you know, memory now-a-days usually overclocks alot, prolly could get 1866 or 1600 out of those sticks.

Capt_Derpy 1 point 34 months ago

Yeah, you can basically overclock anything on a computer these days, but still I'm just saying that you could get better for the price. And unless the owner of the build had plans to upgrade it later, I would definitely get better than whats currently included.

Just my opinion anyway..

mellelmejor -2 points 35 months ago

bad build.

herefordacontest -4 points 37 months ago

Good for those who don't intend to upgrade. My only problem with this is the ram, I feel like you could get better. Other than that, nice for minor gaming.

Chaostiix -13 points 37 months ago

GTX 970 would be much better tbh

vagabond139 5 Builds 8 points 37 months ago

How is less performance better?

Chaostiix -10 points 37 months ago

You're mistaking raw power for performance. The 390 will heat up very quickly, causing it to reduce its clock rate drastically. This, as most educated users of PcPartPicker know, means less graphical speed. Plus, shadow play is nice. Drivers are better. With good airflow, you can overclock the GTX 970 much higher than the 390 could ever go.

vagabond139 5 Builds 4 points 37 months ago

Please quit with this utter non sense. Back your BS up or quit spreading it around

526christian 2 points 37 months ago

Doesn't Philip ban people who do stuff like this - make claims like that and never back it up?

vagabond139 5 Builds 2 points 37 months ago

I doubt it would go for a ba, maybe a comment mute or just giving him a warning and deleting all of his misinformation comments.

armingips 2 points 37 months ago

YES! So much better, slower card, cost more, 3.5 VRAM. SO good 3.5/4..
Great Troll...

piemancoder 5 points 37 months ago

But with Internet math, a 3.5 is equivalent to 3.7. Also, there isn't any need for a decimal point, so it's actually 37 gigabytes of VRAM.

just kidding

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GreenBeanPie 1 point 37 months ago

Not really. If this were a Pentium G3258/i3 rig, I'd say so. This is an i5 rig. It can handle AMD driver overhead.

I was under the impression GeForce drivers have more overhead but are more evenly multi-threaded, Allan_M_Systems and I had conversation about this over here.

Edit, it still bugs me that 5 of the games tested in the benchmarks that Allan_M_Systems linked to could take advantage of mantle, but are only tested using D3D. I'm not even a PC gamer but what do people have against other APIs?

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JamezRebelStudios 1 point 37 months ago

What do you expect? It's 80+ gold certified.

glich610 2 Builds 2 points 37 months ago

I have a fully modular 80+ gold PSU [EVGA] that I got for less than the one that they used here. I am in the US if that helps

rightinthepope 2 Builds 1 point 37 months ago

I do as well. I love this PSU

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JamezRebelStudios 0 points 37 months ago

Exactly how is it mean to condemn a overused joke that I wish would go away.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 37 months ago

We held off on posting this one for a little while. The cost has gone up since that time.

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ABundleOfBunnies 1 Build 1 point 36 months ago

oh wow hes on here too. k wow.

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ABundleOfBunnies 1 Build 1 point 36 months ago

well :( what did i do to u

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GentlemanShark 1 Build 1 point 36 months ago

Please

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GentlemanShark 1 Build 1 point 36 months ago

Stop

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GentlemanShark 1 Build 1 point 36 months ago

Doing

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manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 6 points 37 months ago

Skylake simply isn't the best price/performance right now between the added cost for a minor CPU upgrade, DDR4 instead of DDR3, and more expensive z/h170 motherboards.

eternalstudio 1 point 37 months ago

Im building a skylake build at the moment. So far, total cost is around 1700... It's gonna be a beast, no doubt, but my main objective was future proofing.

Yea, the cost to performance is not all there, but one day i'll be glad I did it when the next series of CPU and improved ram comes out.

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DrWhoCares 1 Build 5 points 37 months ago

DDR4 has the issue of being too new at this point. The CAS levels are much too high and will be for some time. Not to mention being more expensive for such a negligible performance increase.

Chaostiix -3 points 37 months ago

CAS levels are almost unnoticeable if you're just gaming (the main purpose for this build). The RPM of the DDR4 memory sticks, however, make a major performance in the long run. Soon enough, 2133 RPM will be the standard for performance. Great for future proofing.

vagabond139 5 Builds 2 points 37 months ago

Ram doesn't have RPM...

Chaostiix 0 points 37 months ago

MY MISTAKE. I was thinking of HDDs, RAM has MHZ. Anyway, my point is the same. 2133 MHZ will soon be the standard.

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BlockySquidZ 2 points 36 months ago

Only the overclockable ones. And that makes sense; taking an unlocked one for.. Wha?

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I know.

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Reason:
Note: Wattages are estimates only. Actual power draw may differ from listed values.
Component Estimated Wattage
Intel - Core i5-4460 3.2 GHz Quad-Core Processor 10W - 84W
Patriot - Signature 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR3-1600 Memory 9W - 9W
Mushkin - Source 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive 2W - 10W
Hitachi - Ultrastar 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 4W - 20W
Gigabyte - Radeon R9 390 8 GB Video Card 68W - 275W
Total: 93W - 398W