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Gaming, Streaming, and Editing Build

by ThoughtA

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NOTE: A more recent version of this guide is available here.

Description

Preface

This build is intended for those who have an interest in gaming, editing recorded footage, and streaming on a site like Twitch. A PC with these things in mind will have some differing needs than a strictly gaming PC.

CPU and Cooler

For streaming and editing, we're running the new AMD Ryzen 7 1700, which will handle all modern games admirably and is a workstation powerhouse at its price. The important features that we want from this CPU for streaming and editing are its 8 cores and 16 threads via SMT (Simultaneous Multithreading). SMT adds an additional logical core for each physical core, resulting in double the number of allowed CPU threads. This helps to close the gap between 8- and 16-core processors without breaking the bank or unreasonably sacrificing single-threaded processing power. The extra cores can help performance significantly with both streaming and editing. The Ryzen 7 1700 includes a stock cooler, so 3rd-party cooler isn't necessary. This CPU is overclockable, and you can crank out quite a bit more performance if you choose to go that route.

Motherboard

We're using a parametric filter to constantly select the best-priced motherboard while meeting selected criteria. In this case, we are filtering for B350 chipsets and 4 DDR4 DIMM slots for future expansion. The compatibility engine will filter out anything not compatible with the build. All motherboards selected will have the new AM4 and will be compatible with the Ryzen 7 1700 out of the box. We are also filtering for micro ATX motherboards, which tend to save you money without cutting out anything you'd miss.

Memory

Since editing video can eat up a significant amount of memory quickly, we are using 32GB of memory, with a parametric filter applied to select the best-priced kit of either a 2x16GB or 4x8GB kit of DDR4 RAM. If you are okay with potentially spending more money, you can change the filter to 2x16GB only to leave room for future memory capacity upgrades. However, that will not likely be necessary any time soon.

We've limited the filter to DDR4-2800 and DDR4-3000 as Ryzen CPUs scale well with higher frequency memory. At the current time, using memory rated over 3000MHz is not advised without doing extra research as DIMM support can be hit or miss. AMD is working on releasing additional BIOS updates to add better compatibility for higher frequency memory.

Storage

We're use parametric filters to incorporate an SSD with at least 960GB of space and a minimum of 4TB 7200RPM mechanical storage. Everyone's storage needs differs, so feel free to change those capacities to your heart's desire. You likely will need significantly more storage space than if this were strictly a gaming PC, though.

GPU

For our GPU, the Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070 is one of the best price for performance cards on the market and an absolute powerhouse. The GTX 1070 will provide a consistent 60fps on many demanding games like Battlefield 1 at Ultra at 1080p, and even 1440p for some games like Shadow of Mordor. For those interested in VR, the GTX 1070 will have no problem playing any and and all applications currently on the market.

We've updated the filter to include a minimum length to avoid "mini" versions of the card, which prioritize fitting into small builds, such as an ITX case. You can choose to use this filter instead, if you want to include the smaller cards for any reason. Note that smaller cards will be louder or hotter - or both.

Case

The selected case is black and windowless Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout Edition. The Define R5 series includes sound-dampening foam, and we're forgoing a window since windows leak out a surprising amount of sound, especially when your now-windowless panel features additional sound-dampening foam.

This case includes 2 USB 3.0 ports, 2 USB 2.0 ports, and 2 externally-accessible 5.25" bays that you can use for hot swap storage bay or optical disc drives. The Define R5 Blackout Edition also comes with 2 140mm fans - 140mm fans tend to generate less noise for the same amount of air movement as 120mm since they don't need to spin as fast.

If you'd like a slightly different aesthetic, you can opt for the non-blackout version of the case, which features white drives trays, PCI-E brackets, and fans. Cases tend to be highly personal choices, so make sure you browse our listed cases to see what suits you.

PSU

For our power supply, we're using a parametric selection of five well-reviewed semi or fully modular units, all of which are 80+ Bronze certified or above and can provide plenty of power for this build. With the PSU shroud in the case, we don't need to worry about the colors of the PSU matching the theme.

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Compatibility Check: No issues/incompatibilities found.

Estimated Wattage: 344W
Component Selection Base Promo Shipping Tax Price Where
CPU $269.99 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime $269.99 Amazon Buy
Motherboard $74.99 -$20.00 FREE $54.99 Newegg Buy
$20.00 mail-in rebate
Memory
From parametric filter
  • Type: 288-pin DIMM
  • Size: 32GB (2x16GB), 32GB (4x8GB)
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Storage
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 960GB - 10TB
  • Type: SSD
  • Interface: SATA 6 Gb/s
  • Form Factor: 2.5"
$237.99 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime $237.99 Amazon Buy
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 4TB - 10TB
  • Type: 7200RPM
  • Interface: SATA 6 Gb/s
  • Form Factor: 3.5"
$109.99 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime $109.99 Amazon Buy
Video Card
From parametric filter
  • Chipset: GeForce GTX 1070
  • Length: 224mm - 403mm
$424.99 -$25.00 FREE $399.99 Newegg Buy
$25.00 mail-in rebate
Case $79.99 -$10.00 FREE $69.99 Newegg Buy
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Power Supply $54.90 -$20.00 FREE $34.90 Newegg Buy
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Base Total: $1512.83
Mail-in Rebates: -$75.00
Total: $1437.83
* Using your selected merchants and only including nearby in-store pickup prices)
* Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.

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DrSkitzo14 18 points 7 months ago

Adaptation for Gamer/Editor/Streamer

Cation, do not follow this advice unless you are a gamer and/or don't use software that uses a shitton of RAM (90% of modern games do not need more than 10 GB of RAM)

This adaptation is focused more on the gamer side

You could save quite a bit of money while still keeping most of the performance:

Memory:

Buying 2x8GB DDR4 instead of 4x8 GB

Explanation: cheapest 2x8 is $99.97, and in most cases, if you meet the requirements above, the build will not need to use more than 16 GB, as most modern games

Savings so far: 90USD

Storage

Using a 960GB SSD in a massive overkill in most cases. You will most likely want to buy a 240GB or maybe (if necessary) 450GB SSD to save the most crucial apps and games, plus the OS. example

Also, the majority of people will not need more than 2-3TB os storage. 2TB HDD costs about $70-80, let's say it costs $80.

Savings so far 90+156.89+57.88=304.77

PSU

Come on! There are gold+ fully-modular EVGA editions for $66. Don't cheap out on your PSU!

Savings so far 90+156.89+57.88-~1=303.77

Case

Is good: supports top exhaust fans (good for water cooling), and a standart ATX

Mobo

You might want to invest a bit more on that: with the current specs it has no chance of getting upgrades. ASRock AB350 Pro4 ATX is a nice fit for this, and it costs about $1 more. Plus, it has 2 M.2 ports and 2 (instead of 1) PCIEx16 slots (the one used for GPUs), and gigabit LAN

Savings so far 90+156.89+57.88-~1-~1=302.77

GPU

The 1070 is one of the best price/performance GPUs out there. It's good. Could buy the RX 480 8GB for a bit more savings, but I would personally prefer the 1070 for now

Final price: $1199. 89

While still maintaining most of the performance and having more future upgradability!

Please do comment if you disagree! I'd love to hear recommendations c:

Megarocket16 2 points 7 months ago

Thank you, thank you so much. I was trying to get this kind of message out that the admins were using useless, overpriced items. I found so many parts that can be replaced with better. I 100% recommend this edited build to everyone (including streamers & gamers, etc) because for the normal streamer, gamer, etc. all these parts are good enough. Unless you are making some crazy, mega effects movie + crazy animations, and gaming and streaming with your friends on one rig while at it , this build is unnecessary. Mind as well get the Corsair ONE. I would make one change though, since we saved so much money, let's just get a Ryzen 1800X.

Vinyl_Scratch_ 16 points 7 months ago

Just some helpful critique for anyone wanting to build a similar PC but want certain things done more specifically, or just my two cents

Motherboard

Mostly okay, but some things to consider

Other than being mATX (which to be fair still offers a lot of the benefit of ATX but smaller), causes a few issues, not only is expandability limited for more M.2 drives (which if are rated for higher than SATA speeds are amazing for editing workflow), but other, weirder hardware such as sound cards, PCIE SSD's, etc. etc. are bottlenecked. And for a "workstation" built PC, expandability is key
Not to also mention usually putting mATX boards in ATX chassis not only looks weird but sometimes is a mess

Storage

This one is a doozy

While I agree with the current setup is definitely safe, it's not streamlined on the sense of what a editing PC would usually consist of. While not going into too much detail, I'd recommend going with a NVME SSD (Intel 750, Samsung 950 Pro, OCZ RD400) as a drive to have current projects loaded on (plus games and Adobe programs, etc.) for the cost of raw storage, and a 3-4TB quick access drive for games, bulk music / photos, etc. etc. to have stored. And finally a NAS system whether be separate or in your PC in RAID 1 to archive stuff and store videos and projects that you probably won't need often, but will thank yourself for having

Graphics Card

Mostly blaming parametric filter

Just a quick thing to note. Silence for workstation type builds are important, not only for your sanity but if you're using speakers / open ear headphones, this is important. I'd recommend instead of a blower style use a open air style cooler to not only babe the fans running at lower RPM but keep things quieter. Not to also mention most of these cards will have idle modes where fans don't spin

Case

I love the P400S but eh?

Another small note. Continuing with the workstation and quiet theme, the P400S does have noise isolating foam installed but there are some other options as well that might suit your fancy instead of the aesthetic doesn't work.
To make sure you don't sacrifice on usability I would recommend either the Define S from Fractal or the bequiet! Dark Base 600, both of which include many features we're starting to take for granted such as removable and swappable hard drive cages, removable 5.25" bays, etc. etc. Not only is usability similar to the P400S but silence is also kept to a focus


Thanks to the PCPP staff for making great build guides for newbies and veterans alike to look at and critique. Oh and for reading, here's a cookie c:

Merzy 3 points 7 months ago

So specifically which motherboard do you recommend then?

Vinyl_Scratch_ 2 points 7 months ago

ASRock boards seem to have the best reputation for Ryzen currently for just working and not having issues with BIOS and whatnot. I'd recommend about anything from their lineup with specific features that you'd be looking for (ECC. extra PCIE lanes, etc.)

Slurth 1 Build 3 points 7 months ago

Love the build! There are a few things kind of iffy about it though, the motherboard isn't the biggest you can get and offers less expansion options. +1 still.

Pladdaah 2 Builds 3 points 7 months ago

Go with 3200 Ram . since Ryzen is scaling pretty well with fast RAM :)

ChuckyLucky11 2 points 7 months ago

Finally, the Ryzen build guides are here!

Kurtisdede 2 points 7 months ago

Faster Ram for the win. We talking Ryzen here.

Ginger_HD 2 points 7 months ago

Whats the compatibility issue?

Megarocket16 2 points 7 months ago

Why such good components, but not use AMD's best CPU? Is it worth the savings? It could be better.

Slurth 1 Build 3 points 7 months ago

Yes because the difference between the 1700 and the 1800X can be narrowed by OCing which the motherboard supports, therefore not justifying the $200 dollar premium for higher speeds out of the box.

wdanford 2 points 7 months ago

R5 guides coming soon? You don't really need an R7 for gaming...

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 7 months ago

This isn't for just gaming :)

Htxela 2 points 7 months ago

So overall what would be the list of parts that you guys would recommend ? since I'm not great with pc builds a list would really help thanks

crazyshot01 1 point 7 months ago

mhm im interested in this build as well. The price per everything is very appealing

Slurth 1 Build 1 point 7 months ago

Suggestion, use the Enthusiast gaming build guide instead of this one, it is the same price and has a 1080 instead of a 1070, and while it doesn't have as much storage, you can always get a cheap 2 TB HDD. The motherboard on the other guide is better looking and allows SLI for the future if you're thinking about that.

smknbroccoli 1 point 7 months ago

I was wondering if ordering a build off of cyberpowerpc is a good idea or not? They do monthly plans which would be perfect for me but I've heard lots of bad things about them

AbsolutPstchio 1 point 6 months ago

I bought a Cyberpower pc really cheap with this case, and it's run perfectly fine with no issues, but I do regret buying it and not just investing that money into a building a new PC myself.

GloriouSGabeN 2 points 6 months ago

Well, if it's running perfectly, what's to regret? I mean, sure it's nice to build a PC, save a few Benjamin Franklin's but it's your money. :P

Slurth 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

Terrible idea. Pre-builts are a bad idea for price to performance.

IVRZ 1 point 6 months ago

cheap out on the psu

Skymaster7 1 point 6 months ago

Plz tell me if this is a good pic build, I made it a lot like the one showcased here, but with some adjustments https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Skymaster7/saved/zR8cf7

Slurth 1 Build 2 points 6 months ago

Pretty good but I would get Ryzen rather than Intel because of the extra performance you get for the same price.

Skymaster7 1 point 6 months ago

I'm going to use this comouter for gaming, and are new to PC building, so is Intel better at gaming, or Ryzen

Slurth 1 Build 2 points 6 months ago

True but you get so much more for the price. The cheapest R5 has double the threads of the i5s. As well as having a lower TDP and a decent stock cooler. $30 saved right there w/o the lower price of the R5 factored in. Intel is the losing team right now bro, AMD is coming back hard.

Skymaster7 1 point 6 months ago

I did some research, and u are right, thx for the advice. Also, is my cooler good? It says that it may need custom mounting brackets to fit, what does that mean?

Slurth 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

It means the company hasn't made brackets for AM4 motherboards yet, just use the stock cooler then. Ryzen stock coolers are actually really good.

kenlao 1 point 6 months ago

does ram speed matters when editing videos? 2133, 2400,2666,3200

Slurth 1 Build 2 points 6 months ago

It can, but not a huge amount.

kenlao 1 point 6 months ago

between 2400,2666,3200 which one should i buy?

Slurth 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

3200 if you want to do it at the fastest speed possible. But honestly RAM speed doesn't matter as much as RAM amount. Just get something cheap and adequate for your need.

kenlao 1 point 6 months ago

ok thnx

Little_Koala 1 point 6 months ago

I'm new to PC building and this may seem to be a stupid question ,but when i order the parts it comes with all the wires and everything to hook it up right? i wont need to buy separate wire for certain parts

Slurth 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

In the PSU box the wires will be there. Use CPU labeled cables for the CPU port, and use VGA cables for the ports on the GPU. The rest is rather self explanatory. If you need more help look up a building tutorial on youtube. Also for future reference ask on the forums.

Durango19 1 point 6 months ago

How would this fair with sound editting/recording moreso than video editting/recording, or is that a dumb question?

CowComputerz 1 point 6 months ago

This is a great build guide! I added a NXT Kraken x62

RealAbruzzi 1 point 6 months ago

Awesome build, I've taking a little bit from the main build and mixed it up with some of the recommendations in the comment section. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

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