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Great Gaming Build

by ThoughtA

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NOTE: A more recent version of this guide is available here.

Description

At this budget, we're running an i5-6600. Any modern i5 will perform admirably for nearly all gaming needs. Since we aren't overclocking our CPU, the stock cooler will be sufficient in keeping temperatures acceptable.

Our motherboard is the ASRock H170A-X1/3.1. Pulling back to the non-overclockable H170 chipset helps us save some money for upgrades elsewhere in the build. This motherboard supports up to 64GB of memory, six SATA 6 GB/s devices, multiple expansion cards, and features a nice black with red theme. Since memory continues to come down in cost, we can comfortably fit 16GB of DDR4 RAM, which should provide some nice memory headroom. We're using a parametric filter to choose a 16GB kit of memory within Intel's recommended specifications and the best price. We also use parametric filters to incorporate an SSD with at least 500GB of space and a minimum of 3TB 7200RPM mechanical storage.

For our GPU, the AMD R9 390X is right where we want it. It's an updated version of the R9 290X, with increases to performance and cooling efficiency, making this model not only affordable but also one of the best graphics card choices on the market. The 390X will provide a consistent 60fps on many demanding games like Battlefield 4 at Ultra at 1080p, and even 1440p for some games like Shadow of Mordor. For VR enthusiasts out there, the 390X will be more than adequate for your favorite VR system. We're using a parametric filter to find the best price 390X available.

We're putting our components in the Phanteks Enthoo Pro. This case has a large side panel window, front panel USB 3.0 ports, and plenty of room for expansion and watercooling radiators. For our power supply, we're using a parametric selection of a few well-reviewed semi-modular units, all of which are 80+ Gold certified and can provide plenty of power for this build.

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Estimated Wattage: 176W
Component Selection Base Promo Shipping Tax Price Where
CPU $224.78 $224.78 OutletPC Buy
Motherboard $104.99 $104.99 NCIX US Buy
Memory
From parametric filter
  • Type: 288-pin DIMM
  • Size: 16GB (1x16GB), 16GB (2x8GB)
  • CAS Latency: 3 - 16
$119.99 FREE $119.99 Newegg Buy
Free Lite-On external DVD writer w/ purchase, limited offer
Storage
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 500GB - 10TB
  • Type: SSD
  • Interface: SATA 6 Gb/s
  • Form Factor: 2.5"
$148.89 $148.89 OutletPC Buy
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 3TB - 10TB
  • Type: 7200RPM
$69.99 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime $69.99 Amazon Buy
Video Card
No Matches Available
From parametric filter
  • Chipset: Radeon R9 390X
Case $89.99 -$10.00 FREE $79.99 Newegg Buy
$10.00 mail-in rebate
Power Supply $68.99 FREE $68.99 SuperBiiz Buy
Base Total: $827.62
Mail-in Rebates: -$10.00
Total: $817.62
* Using your selected merchants and only including nearby in-store pickup prices)
* Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.

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digah2750 17 points 16 months ago

I don't use MIRs so this might cost a bit more, but...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor $194.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard ASRock H170M Pro4S Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $81.99 @ SuperBiiz
Memory G.Skill Aegis 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory $28.99 @ Newegg
Storage Sandisk X400 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $117.99 @ Newegg
Storage Hitachi Ultrastar 7K3000 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $71.90 @ Amazon
Video Card Asus Radeon R9 Fury 4GB Video Card $469.99 @ Newegg
Case Corsair Carbide SPEC-M2 MicroATX Mid Tower Case $44.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $68.99 @ NCIX US
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1079.83
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-22 16:12 EDT-0400

Reasons why I would go with this:

  • I'm not paying $20 extra for a CPU that barely outperforms this one.
  • Games don't use 8GB of RAM, and most don't even get close to 8GB, much less 4GB. 16GB is a waste of money for a machine centered around gaming.
  • The R9 Fury is definitely better than the 390X.
  • Cases don't matter at all, so for a gaming machine I'm not paying $100 for a case that will be just as good as a $40.

They cost the same, but side by side mine will beat the guide's PC in gaming 99% of the time.

ivan_ivanovich_ivanovsky 12 points 16 months ago

+1 for being practical, realistic, and saving money. I like that. Shout-out to builders who actually have to work a real job for their builds.

TheBigMan69 1 point 15 months ago

sorry that i work in naria for my build

Gshocked 3 points 15 months ago

If you find good deals on new and sometimes used parts, you can get pretty good deals. I got an i5 6600K for $215 new on eBay, and a used GTX 970 for $220 on the Tomshardware Classifieds. I also got 16GB DDR4 ram for $45 on Newegg due to sale and coupon combination.

Some extra searching can really lead to some good deals.

Maxxoz 2 points 15 months ago
  • Cases do matter, if people need a good case that they want to mod, that's big enough, that has good cable management, etc. etc. etc.
  • Damn right about the RAM, but hey 'future proof'.
  • The R9 Fury may be good, but please with a 550W PSU? That's like no headroom at all for if you want to upgrade this PC, or if you want to OC the Fury.
  • For the motherboard, you can switch back to the ATX one.
  • CPU is really a smart choice

You know, this 'Gaming' rig is titled wrong (the one above). It's more of a 'Gaming, Futureproof and YouTuber' rig. You really thought about it as a Gaming rig, but don't take it too literal. Like a 550W with a Fury? Man. And by the way; what gamers are going to need 3TB with a 512GB SSD? (Same for the original build).

digah2750 1 point 15 months ago

The R9 Fury may be good, but please with a 550W PSU? That's like no headroom at all for if you want to upgrade this PC, or if you want to OC the Fury.

I mean I watched an LTT video a while back, and iirc he had an OC'd 4790K with an OC'd 980 Ti running with a 450W PSU. The only real upgrade that would require another power supply would probably getting a second Fury.

And by the way; what gamers are going to need 3TB with a 512GB SSD? (Same for the original build).

Debating about storage is all about personal preference, so it was just easier to go with the solution the guide gave.

sardonicus09 2 points 15 months ago

I think cases do matter: ease of dust control; sound control; aesthetics; ease of working with as an installer.

digah2750 4 points 15 months ago

I meant in terms of performance.

Nick85er 1 point 15 months ago

high air flow + good filtering = lower temps = longer life cycle + more stable performance for MANY components.

if not an expensive case, at least ensure there are adequate air flow and/or cooling within the case.

Blacklights_89 0 points 15 months ago

Yours may out perform his but realistically when you build you want a case that is easy to work with, is quite, keeps dust out and looks really nice. That extra $60 or so on a case can make a build much more enjoyable.

digah2750 6 points 15 months ago

I meant in terms of performance.

j4rh3ad 9 points 15 months ago

When your profile pictures fits your reply perfectly xD

bodywash 1 point 15 months ago

I totally agree. +1

TimelessGaming 1 point 15 months ago

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/TimelessGaming/saved/gypqqs

Someone plz improve on this while keeping it below or at 500. Mainly looking for a better gpu

Thanks for your help!!

RockyBalboaPlays -2 points 15 months ago

Way to be a **** on someone else's build

digah2750 3 points 15 months ago

Could you please elaborate how exactly I was being "a ****".

JacobGunther12 -5 points 16 months ago

Most modern games use somewhere close to 5 - 7 GB. Windows usually uses 1.5 GB of RAM, 0.5 for background programs and you sir, got 7-9 GB of RAM, sir. Background programs can take up a LOT of RAM, so its good to have extra, maybe 12 GB is good for a high end gamer.

ivan_ivanovich_ivanovsky 5 points 16 months ago

Most modern games use somewhere close to 5 - 7 GB

Where'd you hear that ridiculous lie? Star Wars Battlefront uses 2GB of system RAM on ultra settings @ 4K, so that's completely false.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/game-bench/2191-star-wars-battlefront-gpu-benchmark-final-launch

"In a brief observational period of 10 minutes, we saw VRAM consumption around 4017MB (when present) at 4K / ultra, with system RAM consumption around 2GB."

also watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvkhG-p7KkI

anything over 8GB is a marketing scam to make stupid people waste money

ivan_ivanovich_ivanovsky 4 points 16 months ago

You mean to agree with me, or..what? The guy proves my point with facts, but then suggests wasting money anyway because you can

Either way I just can't fathom spending money on something that does absolutely nothing for me.

GangstaGoat 1 point 15 months ago

what about people who may want to stream or edit videos?

digah2750 1 point 15 months ago

Editing videos doesn't require a specific amount of RAM. You'd be better off with more depending on how intense the editing is, but 8GB is still usable.

digah2750 3 points 15 months ago

Where did you get your info?

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jimlandiaman 1 Build 5 points 16 months ago

As rolfejc states, the difference between the 390 and 390x is just a small overclock (which can be achieved by overclocking the 390 yourself). Purchasing a 390 over a 390x will save around $60, which couild either be saved or spent elsewhere.

Everything else looks good.

+1

RaspberryPiFan 8 Builds 31 points 16 months ago

Actually the 390x has more shading cores, the chip is fully unlocked. With a BIOS flash you might be able to make a 390 into a 390x.

You are confusing the 300 and 200 series. An R9 390 is an overclocked r9 290 with 8GB of RAM and a slightly modified architecture for lower power consumption. A 390x is an overclocked 290x with 8GB of RAM and again, modified for lower power consumption.

jimlandiaman 1 Build 13 points 16 months ago

Good to know. Thanks for the correction.

pj_sz 2 Builds 3 points 16 months ago

This is actually interesting to know, thanks

Aceboyz 1 point 16 months ago

If I'm not mistaken the 390 is a r9 285 with 8GBs of VRAM, correct me if I'm wrong though

RaspberryPiFan 8 Builds 3 points 16 months ago

The R9 390 is a slightly modified R9 290. 8GB of ram, slightly higher clocks, and has a modified power system for lower temperatures.

LeeTheENTP 2 points 16 months ago

The 380(X?) is a rebranded R9 285.

jackwallace 3 points 16 months ago

The 380 is a rebranded 285, which is a cut down Tonga GPU. The 380x is the full Tonga GPU, previously the M295X in the newer iMacs.

Aceboyz 3 points 16 months ago

oh yeah, not the 390 but the 380 thanks for refreshing my memory

GreenBeanPie 1 point 16 months ago

I'm sorry, but I don't believe R9 390s have locked cores. Do you have evidence of this?

GreenBeanPie 1 point 16 months ago

I'm sorry, but I don't believe R9 390s have locked cores. Do you have evidence of this?

http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/graphics/desktop/r9#

Scroll to the bottom.

Great, but help me out again. what on that page supports your claim?

RaspberryPiFan 8 Builds 2 points 16 months ago

I guess I don't have proof of being locked but there are more shading cores on the 390x than the 390.

vagabond139 5 Builds 2 points 15 months ago

It does as with most if not all cards that are cut down of their big brothers. , they disable/lock "non working" cores that don't pass their tests or whatever they did to decide to lock it and label it as a R9 390.

http://imgur.com/NULleZb

Rofineli 1 point 15 months ago

It does as with most if not all cards that are cut down of their big brothers. , they disable/lock "non working" cores that don't pass their tests or whatever they did to decide to lock it and label it as a R9 390.

Good to know.

LazerL0rd 1 point 16 months ago

So if u replace the bios of a 390 it becomes a 390x, isn't that dangerous and doesn't the bios mention the shading cores??

RaspberryPiFan 8 Builds 1 point 16 months ago

If you replace the BIOS is probably won't because of all of the deeper firmware locks.

JacobGunther12 3 points 16 months ago

I'm just sitting here... amazed

RaspberryPiFan 8 Builds 3 points 16 months ago

What did I do?

Blacklights_89 2 points 15 months ago

Completely agree, he said he wasn't overclocking, so why go with a 390x? better off overclocking a 390 and spend $60 on a cooler

GreenBeanPie 1 point 16 months ago

The R9 290 and R9 390 have; 40 compute units (2560 Unified Shaders), 160 Texture Mapping Units, and 64 Render Output Units.

The R9 290X & R9 390X have; 44 compute units (2816 Unified Shaders), 176 Texture Mapping Units, and 64 Render Output Units.

An R9 390X has 10% more compute units more than a R9 390. The difference between the two is good and excellent 1440p gaming.

johntvette 4 points 16 months ago

I have had an MSI R9 390 (cf) and now have an MSI R9 390x. The 390x ran faster straight out of the box, but on top of that it's been more welcoming in the overclock department. Modest overclocks have netted substantial gains in performance, with very little gains in heat. My 390's weren't quite as good. Of course, the differences are still negligible if you aren't wanting to shell out the extra dollars.

I only run racing simulators on my computer, with triple 144hz 1080p monitors. I have already ordered three 144hz 1440p freesync monitors and an R9 Fury X, so I'll be interested to see the performance difference. I'm going to run them on the 390x first, to see how my overclock stacks up against the Fury X in this setup. I expect this resolution in three monitors to be quite taxing.

CircuitLord 2 points 16 months ago

This build is pretty good, but like some other people have said in the comments, there are a few changes that could be made. The i5 6400 or 6500 will do just as good in gaming as the 6600 for cheaper, the R9 390x should be a R9 390 and you just overclock it manually, and that case costs wayyy to much even if it is cool.

df3paint 1 point 9 months ago

Great info, thanks!

SR91 1 Build 2 points 16 months ago

I've never seen a non-staff user-made guide get featured before, congratulations on making the front page. +1

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Matthewtina2015 1 Build 1 point 16 months ago

lol rekt

SR91 1 Build 1 point 16 months ago

Really?, well I was certainly fooled, kinda makes me wonder if there's been any non-staff user guides featured ever. Anyway, thanks for the info it's much appreciated.

pj_sz 2 Builds 1 point 16 months ago

I don't think there is, I've only seen staff

SR91 1 Build 1 point 16 months ago

I see that now but I honestly thought this was a user guide, and I guess they separated the user guides from the staff guides or something, (I remember they used to have all of them on the same page), but now all I see is just staff guides. I didn't even know there was a new staff member as I never saw any announcement on the front page. I've been a member here for 2 years and there's still a lot I don't know about things here.

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S0nny_WarBucks58 3 Builds 2 points 16 months ago

I might make this build this fall. Maybe in a different case, but it is a awesome build.

Matthewtina2015 1 Build 4 points 16 months ago

get a 6500 so your wallet will have a chance

I'm sorry

S0nny_WarBucks58 3 Builds 1 point 16 months ago

Ye

Puns don't bother me anymore

Matthewtina2015 1 Build 1 point 16 months ago

should I just leave?

S0nny_WarBucks58 3 Builds 1 point 16 months ago

If you honestly want to

Matthewtina2015 1 Build 1 point 16 months ago

ok, bai

Gshocked 2 points 15 months ago

If you're building it this fall, don't get the 390x. Get an RX 480 (Given that there are no hiccups with its release)

Turbanmaster 2 points 16 months ago

Nice Build

vagabond139 5 Builds 2 points 16 months ago

Congrats on the first featured build guide.

TheGamingBible 2 points 16 months ago

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PumpkinPc 2 points 15 months ago

rip, this build guide.

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Matthewtina2015 1 Build 1 point 16 months ago

Nice!

Matthewtina2015 1 Build 1 point 16 months ago

There's a typo. You put i5-4460 in the description

mohammadtaqi 1 point 16 months ago

Good build for gaming and choosing R9 390X is very good choice but if u choose 3200 MHz Motherboard that is good and better for Memory...and if u choose a cheaper case and u doesnt need this Full Tower case and u can find better and more beautifull case...good luck

190n 2 Builds 1 point 16 months ago

Nice-looking build! It's always interesting when the front-page build guide gets replaced.

A side note, do you ever plan to feature community build guides?

And: (with all due respect) Why did you choose 3TB of hard drive storage?

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 16 months ago

Nothing wrong with questioning parts choices! I was shooting for a total storage that would be plenty for a large part of the userbase. Some people will want more; some people will want less. It's comes down to very personal uses. 3TB was a somewhat arbitrary pick in the middle.

190n 2 Builds 2 points 16 months ago

Okay. I guess it's really just like $25 more. It must be a great business, selling low-capacity hard drives. xD

therevenga 2 Builds 1 point 16 months ago

I recently purchased a 290x for a new build at an ok price. Was it a bad choice? I fell in love with the specific card asoon as i laid eyes on it. (8gb version saphire vapor x 290x) Should i have just gone with a nitro 390x instead?

Truecookieman35 1 point 16 months ago

Forget the nitro, **** the double disspansion, your **** is good even if you loved it at first sight

therevenga 2 Builds 1 point 16 months ago

So I made a good choice?

Truecookieman35 1 point 16 months ago

Listen if you dont like it then go for 390x but if its doing you good even tho its a old card, then keep it. I mean you can return it and save more to get 390x or 390

TROUOUT 1 point 16 months ago

Awesome semi-budget build! Definitely bang for your buck

I probably would go with a cheaper mid tower case but all the same

prowl107 1 Build 1 point 16 months ago

This is nice. If I had around $1000 (which I don't sadly), I would buy this. +1.

Minegoodboy 1 point 16 months ago

Can I use the GTX 1070 later on?

IwannaPC 10 Builds 1 point 16 months ago

Yes.

MaxxBot 1 point 16 months ago

Solid build, all good quality parts.

Kingofstudents 1 point 16 months ago

For the most part, I like it.

Pcjulian12343 1 point 16 months ago

*claps hardly at new staff position

BRAVOOOOO!!!!!

shadowfax6482 1 point 16 months ago

instead of a r9 390 wait for a moth and get a 1070

All_dem_parts 1 point 16 months ago

Great build, only change I'd make is get a 3tb sshd, instead of the 500gb ssd and 3tb mechanical drive, as well and get an 850 watt psu.

limpspinach 1 point 16 months ago

Why SSHD? Only ~8GB of SSD storage & 5900 RPM? And aren't they supposed to be noisy lil' buggers?

PCHacker 1 point 16 months ago

Well, if I ever have $1,000 extra to spend on a computer, I'll build this! Awesome guide! +1

AshPatel 1 point 16 months ago

Wait was that ram actually $11.00 or just a typo or error on the site?

dayofmetal123 1 point 16 months ago

Would I be able to get 60fps or more for GTA 5 running on ultra settings, @1080p? That's the kind of games i'm looking to be able to handle.. Games that aren't well optimized such as Arkham Knight etc. Or should I go with a 6600k and overclock the meshugah out of it?

TheGruesomeTwosome 1 point 16 months ago

I'd like to know this too. I want GTA 5 on ultra at 1080p to be comfortable and look great. Looking at doing this build later in the year.

Xphereos 1 point 15 months ago

A 390x or a 390 can both easily run GTA 5 on Ultra Settings. This is the time where cards are being produced to handle 4k ultra alone so 1080p even on a slightly older card should be a breeze. However, I would recommend waiting until the new amd card gets released in a few days because it will be much faster for a pretty good price.

Richs25 1 point 16 months ago

Hello, I'm thinking about building my first PC and want to make sure I get the best performance for what I'm going to pay out. This build caught my eye because it fits my budget of around $1000, but I am definitely going to wait for the new GTX 1070 cards. Will I need to look at another CPU or motherboard to get the most out of the new card? Any other tips will be appreciated, thanks in advance.

ThoughtA staff submitter 3 points 16 months ago

No one can really say without seeing real benchmark information. This CPU will likely perform more than well enough to match any new GPUs in most games, but that's not written in stone.

Richs25 1 point 16 months ago

That's kinda what I figured. Thanks.

CaptainCrape 1 Build 1 point 16 months ago

Pretty good build besides the i5 6600. Might as well get the 6400 or 6600K instead.

sanz999 1 Build 1 point 16 months ago

I'd wait for the GTX 1070 for the same price.

Orion555 1 point 16 months ago

Cool gaming machine - I'd take it in a New York second :)

Understood - these are your personal choices and what you want!

I don't knit pick other peoples builds - because it is what they want. I think the 390x is a good choice - I want one LOL. Congrats and +1 This card is fast -- it's 10% off right now - you get a 99 cent new Hitman game - a lot of plus' with this card. Get a Freesync monitor and you definitely got game!!! But I am gonna knit pick this ----------------- How come you only bought one???

As far as waiting till whenever for a 1070 - why? You want to be gaming now!!!!!!!!! ----and this is a great gaming machine! You don't have to buy squat for a year or two. You can play any game fast and tight with this machine. Enjoy it and WOW !!! This rig can play games great :)

Oh and Kudos for putting 16gb of ram on it. It's worth it for the cool factor. Those penny pinchers with 8gb slowin down machines can't even see 16gb and it's worth - good future proffin' ---- Yep good for another 3 yrs now and for 50 bucks only - how could you not buy it. I don't know what you call wasted money but I don't think that anybody on an expensive computer buildin' site earns less than 70K a year anyhow. I'd even buy a 390XXX if they made it HOOO YAAAA !!!!!!

TSeel 2 points 16 months ago

16GB of RAM is a good upgrade if you can afford it, but at budget levels its not worth it. For me, I'm going to start with 8GB and upgrade to 16 later on.

The 1070 is going to be much more powerful than the 970/390, so if one is saving up for a build later, it's generally a good idea to point them towards it.

JacobGunther12 1 point 16 months ago

Good choice! If you are gonna be playing games like Overwatch and GTA 5, you might want 12 GB of RAM, because windows uses 1.5 GB, background programs 0.5-3 GB, games 4-8 GB and you've got 6-12.5 GB of RAM!

ivan_ivanovich_ivanovsky 2 points 16 months ago

I've never seen figures so unrealistic. Can you site a source for them?

I can see Windows using 1.5GB of RAM -maybe-, but background programs using up to 3GB? And games using up to 8 GB? Just as an example of how untrue that is, here's a quote from: http://www.gamersnexus.net/game-bench/2191-star-wars-battlefront-gpu-benchmark-final-launch "In a brief observational period of 10 minutes, we saw VRAM consumption around 4017MB (when present) at 4K / ultra, with system RAM consumption around 2GB." That's a triple A title game running at ultra on 4k resolution. I couldn't imagine what kind of game or program you'd be running that would use up to 11GB of your RAM if Battlefront uses only 2. You have to realize that these PC parts companies play all of us for idiots and collaborate to make us waste more money on stuff we don't need. Save some money (if you want to) and just settle for 8GB

ivan_ivanovich_ivanovsky 1 point 16 months ago

What a stuck up jerk. Some people don't make the ridiculous amount of money you supposedly make (or ask your mommy for). Simple, normal, practical people don't waste money unlike your pretentious self. 16GB of RAM has literally ZERO use unless you're editing videos and rendering movies and other really memory-intensive tasks like that. Gaming doesn't require anything above 8GB. I really can't believe that someone could be so stupid and naive as you and actually encourage wasting money in the ways you're describing. There is no "future proofing" by buying 16GB of RAM. If you're not doing anything on your PC to utilize 16GB of RAM, then it's not doing anything but sitting there and looking "cool" (which is apparently a reason to waste large amounts of money for you). To even comprehend that you, of all people, would defame people who save their money by being practical and reasonable by buying only 8GB is absolutely ridiculous. I have never seen a PC builder so disconnected from reality and the consequences of their actions. It must be nice being rich and having no responsibility at all. Have fun wasting all the money your self-righteous, materialistic, pretentious, stuck-up little heart wishes to.

By the way- I'm 18 and work at a fast food restaurant making $7.50 per hour. I've been saving my money for 2 months to buy my parts. You don't deserve to have a good PC.

Orion555 3 points 16 months ago

Well, being mean and short sighted definitely describes you. The fact is that everyone has a right to build what they want. Your inflicting your opinion on others certainly limits their freedom to build what they want.

I do not criticise people for building what they like and what they want for an end result. Apparently, you do. I compliment them like I did the gentleman who made the build. But thank you for an adolescent point of view.

And you do have a right to your opinion. You do not have a right to act like an angry kid and put down others. I am a decorated special forces veteran. I fight for freedoms to protect kids like you to shoot off their mouths and bother others. Enjoy your freedom to say crap like that.

Oh, and my build. 3.2Ghz Quad Core Intel, 8gb ram, GTX 970. no ssd, 2x 1-TB 7200rpm WD's. EVGA 650w PSU. No I don't have an extravagant gaming system. But, yep - I'm buying more memory - heck it's only about 35 bucks - less than the price of a game. And yep I got a free The Division game with it - LOL. So yeah, everybody pinches some pennies - but it's ok either way. Some people spend a lot more because they want to.

The fact is that this guy built a good computer. Congratulate him. Don't be a hater!

ivan_ivanovich_ivanovsky 2 points 16 months ago

I have a 2.33 ghz processor, 6gb of DDR2 ram, and a GT 630 gpu. I've been working for almost three months now to save up what I need to build a good PC. You apparently make over 70k a year and can drop $1500 like it's nothing. When people who have money to waste try to criticize the decisions of people who don't have money to waste, it gets on my nerves (being a person who DOESN'T have money to waste). Actually working to save up the money one would need to buy a PC makes the whole process so much more authentic; it encourages strong research into all the parts, being sure you're getting the best bang for your buck, always changing your mind, and, throughout the whole process, becoming a very knowledgeable person on PC parts/ building . People like you never do any of that. You just dump $1000-$1500 on some parts and say it's a "MONSTER GAMING MACHINE!!!! XXDDD" because you dumped so much money on it, when, in reality, all you did was fall for stupid marketing scams that any educated PC builder would realize in an instant.

Sure, everybody can do what they want with their money, that's their problem and it doesn't bother me at all. But when they start to boast and gloat about how cool their machine is and how much money they spent on it, however, they better be expecting people like myself to come along and tell them how much money they wasted.

also, can you give me some proof that you are a "decorated special forces veteran"?

ineedacomputerayylmao 2 points 15 months ago

in all the comments I've seen you post, it consists only of battlefront specs. when someone brought up gtav, you completely dodged it and posted yet another battlefront spec. games like gtav can use up to 7gb+ of ram (to be fair, partly due to bad optimization, but the point still stands); other games, such as planetside 2, heavily modded fo4, etc. can run 6+gb easily.

i don't see why you're so vitriolic about people buying over the amount of ram they need. technically, everyone could be running r9 270x's, i5-680s, and 6gb ram, true, but some people would prefer to play games more smoothly (or at all - have fun trying to run more ram intensive games with your 6gb build) or use their computers for other things.

no one is faulting you for not having money to spend on a computer. no need to fault those who do, in turn

ivan_ivanovich_ivanovsky 1 point 15 months ago

You're right, I did only use Battlefront; fair point. Here's a video that was shared with me here a few days ago that compares FPS in a multitude of game (GTA V included) while running 4GB, 8GB, and 16GB of RAM. (spoiler alert: no difference in FPS was shown between 4GB, 8GB, and 16GB; even in GTA V)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPenpMMJYEI

I hope you take the time to watch it so you can see what I've been trying to prove. To suggest that GTA V uses up to 7GB of RAM is absolutely absurb (also, I've yet to receive a source for that number and all other RAM consumption numbers you've given me). If you're talking about VRAM, then I understand your point, but system RAM is barely utilized by games.

Also, you completely misinterpreted what I was trying to say (either because you lack those critical reading skills or you're just so angry at me). My current PC is a literal piece of ****, I realize that. I'm not trying to put down anybody because they have something better than me. My point is that we shouldn't throw away our money to these greedy companies who are playing us all for idiots. Buy PC parts that are well-made, proven, and absolutely necessary for your build; whether it be a beefy movie-rendering/editing machine with 2 GTX 1080s or a humble web-browsing PC. Just get the parts that are necessary for the work that you're going to do on your PC. That's why I think 16GB of RAM on a gaming rig is just ridiculous. It's a myth put forward by companies that are happy to sell more RAM. So you have fun throwing your disposable income away.

(side note- I do have fun running games like DAY Z, Garry's Mod, Verdun, Napoleon Total War, and War Thunder on my PC with minimal settings at 1440x900 resolution with avg FPS of 50, so up yours you little damn prick)

meowgi 2 points 15 months ago

But when they start to boast and gloat about how cool their machine is and how much money they spent on it, however, they better be expecting people like myself to come along and tell them how much money they wasted.

None of this was "boasting". We're on a website dedicated for finding and featuring build guides and parts. This half the features of PCPartPicker wouldn't exist if people only cared about bargain deals and barely-meeting-the-recommended-requirements PCs. Clearly there are people out there who treat their PCs in the same way as car enthusiasts treat their cars.

ivan_ivanovich_ivanovsky 1 point 15 months ago

I really can't recall when I suggested that we all get the barely-meeting-the-recommended-requirements PC. My point is that people stop wasting money on parts that won't do them any good for the PC they're building (like buying 16GB of RAM for a gaming build). What you immediately assumed is that I think we all should just get the bare minimum and I'm just an idiot for that. I love to see huge, powerful builds on here that have all that overpowered hardware, but when I see one of those twin TitanX builds with 32GB of RAM and an i7-6950X and the submitter says it's just for gaming, my jaw drops. Of course it can destroy any game, that's no surprise at all and not even remotely interesting. I want to see that machine do something that really utilizes its power. Imagine someone buying a V12 Corvette and only using it to drive a mile up the road to work and back. The manufacturer doesn't care, all he cares about is that you bought the car. My current system build on here is going to be able to blow any game away fine with at least 60 FPS and it's a little over $1400. I want to show you guys that the PC parts industry really plays us for absolute idiots and will encourage wanton wastes of money on a part that really doesn't offer any better performance than some part that's way cheaper. I don't care if you ignore my point, I just want to make sure you understand it.

Orion555 1 point 15 months ago

Well, I haven't spend a lot on my computer. I built it myself - And my computer did not cost $1500. I have always waited until prices drop to buy. It's middle of the road compared to most on here. I don't think that having my Zotac GTX 970 is overboard because most games I play need the horsepower. I just never took to haters.

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 15 months ago

Please keep it polite.

Inferno331 1 point 15 months ago

This is b8 right? its like 30 bucks difference between 8 and 16, and there are games like gtaV that can use more then 8 gb. If you have a job, even what i'm assuming is minimal wage, 30 bucks is a couple of hours work, get over it.

ivan_ivanovich_ivanovsky 1 point 15 months ago

PLEASE give me a source for this crap about games using so much RAM! I keep being told they're using gigabytes upon gigabytes of RAM, but all the credible sources I've seen prove that it's ********.

Also I guess you're right that I need to get over it. I think I just got really triggered about this whole thing when that one dude was talking about how slow 8GB machines can be.

Growliff1234 1 point 16 months ago

Hey dude you should get a profile pic! Gotta love the simpsons like philip has or Monster's Inc.

HeadCheese 1 Build 1 point 16 months ago

great build :)

Stingerman354 1 point 16 months ago

I have a PC built on the AMD side, but this is actually really good of a build. Would leave a recommendation for anyone to build this

joelhowell 1 point 16 months ago

lol staff mad much?

Anyways, it's nice to see a build guide that isn't always manirelli's

ThoughtA staff submitter 5 points 16 months ago

Anger isn't required to remove a post that breaks the rules.

joelhowell 2 points 16 months ago

True but still haha

sonka 1 point 16 months ago

why you buy an R9 390x, it have the same performance of r9 390 and the r9 390 is a half cheaper (in my country) :)

zomowiec 1 point 16 months ago

may i choose EVGA650 instead of 750 as its out of stock in uk ?>

Mylastcleverusername 1 point 16 months ago

I'd go for a geforce 980 or wait like 2 weeks and buy a 1070 because of Shadowplay

+1 nice build

Berfs1 1 Build 1 point 16 months ago

Is it really necessary to get 16 GB of DDR4 RAM? Why no only 8 GB? It would save some money...

Zachatastic117 1 point 16 months ago

I'm guessing you'll update this once the 1070 and 1080 come out?

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 16 months ago

It may be updated before that, but yes, this and/or the other guides will likely be updated then, too.

Zachatastic117 1 point 16 months ago

Yeah, since the 1070 is around a 980 in pricing, I wouldn't be surprised if it became very common place as a video card. Hopefully some benchmarks can come out soon and allow for some good comparison.

MegaManX3 1 Build 1 point 16 months ago

I bought my parents a SanDisk SSD. Besides weighing as much as a paperclip, no issues so far.

GreenZombieTea 1 point 16 months ago

Hello knowledgeable people! Would it be a bad idea to copy every part in this build? Are there any parts that could be switched out to save maybe a hundred - two hundred dollars? -I just want to be able to play games like Witcher 3 on ultra amazing settings. Obviously I am clueless about building computers ... really computers in general ._.

GreenBeanPie 1 point 16 months ago

What monitor resolution? And how much HDD/SDD storage do you need?

GreenBeanPie 1 point 16 months ago

If you're using a FHD or QHD monitor, and 512 GiB is enough storage:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor $194.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard ASRock H170A-X1/3.1 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $79.98 @ Newegg
Memory *Team Elite Plus 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory $48.99 @ Newegg
Storage *Mushkin ECO2 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $109.99 @ Newegg
Video Card XFX Radeon R9 390 8GB Double Dissipation Video Card $299.99 @ Newegg
Case Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case $69.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply *SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $68.99 @ NCIX US
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $872.92
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-19 19:01 EDT-0400
RECKLESS1 1 Build 1 point 15 months ago

PLEASE don't copy this build.

calebm041 1 Build 1 point 16 months ago

I don't get why there are so many builds with these kinds of gpu right now. We all know the 1k series is coming out soon, and is going to be at the same price range for way more power. I mean lets be real here, you don't need 3tb of storage; supposedly this is a gaming build, not a workstation. SSD is fine but do you need that much if your gonna be having a tb or more? 250 should be plenty of enough for games that take advantage of map loading and long load times. That Seasonic is also not leaving any room for upgrades and you might as well go for a 650. That HDD is also known to be faulty a lot, so keep that receipt around; at least you have a 5 year warranty...

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 16 months ago

This guide was published before the 1000 series was announced. Additionally, there are people who will want to build now and not wait, and video cards aren't guaranteed to be in stock for everyone at launch. Also, some people may not want those cards for one reason or another. New video cards coming out is exciting, but we can't just ignore the people who want or need to build now and not in a month.

Storage needs are highly personal. Everyone has different needs. Some will need a good bit more than the drives listed here, and some will need considerably less. You won't be able to decide that for others.

fernando551 1 point 16 months ago

How did this build become featured? Plz explain someone...

clocking 2 points 16 months ago

because he's a staff member lmao

nsyochum 2 Builds 1 point 16 months ago

I would recommend spending like $10 more on the PSU to get a tier 1 unit

rossaaron460 1 point 16 months ago

if its over 1k might as well add a core i7 instead.

52m 1 point 16 months ago

sees $1050 build sees non-K version of the 6600 sees RAM from an untrustworthy brand (HINT: IT'S UNSTABLE RAM! THAT'S WHY IT IS ALMOST $20 CHEAPER THAN NORMAL) sees wasted money on 512gb SSD (should have been on a 250-350gb ssd, then you could get a 6600K) >has resulted in bad cooling for the CPU sees Radeon r9 390X (should have been on a GTX 970 or dual 750 ti's) sees ugly case (way too big too)

Keep in mind that this is just feedback-- not rude comments. It's just that you could build a much faster and powerful PC for about the same price.

TheReclaimerRx7 1 Build 1 point 16 months ago

this build is booty

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TheLittleWedge 1 point 16 months ago

Shouldn't you at least get a 650 watt PSU for this build?

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Tultamaneli 1 Build 1 point 16 months ago

In my opinion, some money could have been saved in some places then put towards an unlocked CPU and a decent cooler like the 212 Evo to get a bit more performance out of the CPU. I think it could have been saved with the storage because I think money would be better spent on the components that actually effect the performance in gaming rather then something like storage which isn't too expensive to just upgrade later when needed. Other than that this is a great Guide, and I wouldn't expect anything less than great from the PCPP staff.

Tultamaneli 1 Build 1 point 16 months ago

Also, not speaking for everyone here, but I wouldn't want a giant window to show off the blue stock cooler, orange motherboard, and red ram. Just an OCD thing I guess.

CaptainJava 1 point 16 months ago

Pretty nice PC but I'm building my own and the processor is faster and cheaper. It is the AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor. It can overclock to 4.0 GHz. You may want to reconsider the processor.

Ravenhelm 2 Builds 2 points 15 months ago

The 6600 is superior to the 860k in literally every possible way except budget. Clock speed does not equal processing power. That is completely and utterly false.

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darthzash 1 point 16 months ago

I wouldn't want a toshiba drive, they are known to break fast. I have about 4 toshiba drives siting at home broken from fixing people computers

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darthzash 1 point 16 months ago

I am viewing this from .ca domain (canada) that's probably why.

seems that HGST have the lowest failure rate. But then again they dont rate the lower tier drives.

I dont have hard proof, but from my own experience , I have 4-5 broken Toshiba drives from customers laptops ( drive is dead), 2 Seagates and 1 WD., all laptop drives. Unless toshiba Desktop drive are much more reliable.

for me toshiba is a cheap brand, they dont have many high tier products. (in canada)

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Elios123 1 point 16 months ago

What can I replace that video card with?It doesnt exist in my country...

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Elios123 1 point 15 months ago

I live in Greece.Thanks for answering me most of the gpus you mentioned are available in my country.After AMD' s new release i will go for rx 480.I have heard good reviews for it but I will wait for official benchmarks and some performance videos.

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Pulsarz 1 point 15 months ago

Nice build but not the best price/performance

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bradvallian411 1 point 15 months ago

Hey... that's actually a good build for the price wow! The parts selection is great and yeah, I have no complaints on this parts list, should deliver some good price per performance.

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LittleL0L 1 Build 1 point 15 months ago

The non-X version has a 3-4 FPS drop difference, for -100$ saving.

Would still get around this build, good guide. +1

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TheReclaimerRx7 1 Build 1 point 15 months ago

hope no one builds this build exactly lol

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EvaderPTY 1 point 15 months ago

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor $194.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard MSI H170A Gaming Pro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $109.99 @ Amazon
Memory Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory $34.49 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $87.69 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $46.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card $299.99 @ Newegg
Case Corsair Carbide 400C ATX Mid Tower Case $89.99 @ Micro Center
Power Supply EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $69.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $954.02
Mail-in rebates -$20.00
Total $934.02
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-06 01:03 EDT-0400

Agreed? Maybe this part list could adjust better your budget (in fact, it costs less than $1,000), but this IS the ideal Great Gamilng Build that's made for you! Here are the reasons why I choose the parts:

First, MSI is a good trademark for gaming PCs.

Second, Samsung SSD is the best SSD storage in the market right now. (In matter of HDD, Seagate HDD can also do the work very well)

And third, the most important thing: it has inside an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 GPU, that fits better your gaming build.

Get my tips, you'll never be disappointed...

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 15 months ago

Third, a fully-modular PSU can manage better the electric circuitry for PCs of this type.

This is absolutely not true. Please do not spread this misinformation.

EvaderPTY 1 point 15 months ago

Thanks for the tip. Now you have the same biuld, but with the following changes: Intel Core i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD + 250GB SSD, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970, semi-modular PSU. Agreed now?

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 15 months ago

At a certain point, part selection becomes a matter of needs and uses. Where yours differs from mine is at that point. There are plenty of people for whom either build would be better than the other.

I appreciate you contributing by suggesting an alternate build, and also thank you for being open to my responses in turn.

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EvaderPTY 1 point 15 months ago

Thanks for the tip. I have already adjusted the part list for fitting better the buils guide for ThoughtA.

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meowgi 1 point 15 months ago

I really do not like this build, especially for a build that is featured. As a gaming build, there's just too much emphasis on storage and also paid a little too much for a windowed case when the parts don't even look good. And really? Why invest that much on a Toshiba drive?

Here is what I think is a much better build that's actually meant for gaming rather than mass storage with a fancy case featuring ugly parts. Forgoing the 500GB SSD and the 3TB HDD for more modest sizes, here is a more appropriate gaming build. It that features i5 6700K for overclocking (because CPU intensive games exist), an AIO cooler to support it, matching parts to go with the slightly cheaper but still good case. All for pretty much the same price. The GPU though is a bit weaker but it's still perfect for 1080p. The fans are completely optional as the case comes with 2 fans already.

Plus as an added bonus, this build is gonna look pretty nice.

May have paid a bit too much for the board but MSI's BIOS is really intuitive and the board will give you the option for SLI in the future.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor $233.99 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Cooler Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $59.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI Z170A SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $112.98 @ Newegg
Memory Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory $59.99 @ SuperBiiz
Storage Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $87.69 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $47.49 @ OutletPC
Video Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card $279.99 @ Best Buy
Case NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case $63.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply *EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $69.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition (2-Pack) 62.7 CFM 120mm Fans $21.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1038.09
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-06 00:37 EDT-0400
EvaderPTY 1 point 15 months ago

Thanks for the tip. I already have adjusted the part list for fitting better the build guide for ThoughtA.

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meowgi 1 point 15 months ago

For some reason I can't edit out that typo. Oh well. You're right though on the 16GB. You can get an 8GB kit and get a bit more money elsewhere. What AIO cooler would you recommend?

And yeah, you can swap out the 970 for an R9 390 for marginally the same price but my point still stands: The "Great Gaming Build" isn't a very gaming focused build, and you can get a lot more performance from simply forgoing storage.

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Bigkev230071 1 point 15 months ago

this build is right around my budget i am brand new to pc gaming my question would be can i play current games at good settings and would i be able to upgrade in the future without having to worry?

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Bigkev230071 1 point 15 months ago

what if i switch the motherboard what would you recommend?

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TurtleDude29 1 point 15 months ago

Thanks i will try to fix it!

michaelkanrs 1 point 15 months ago

$$$$

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EmeraldPlum628 1 point 15 months ago

why don't you go with the 6600k ?

EmeraldPlum628 1 point 15 months ago

and I would go 1070 instead of the 390x

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Nexar 1 point 15 months ago

Awesome build!

Bladyetor 1 point 15 months ago

Would this build be good for vr?

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Aaeder 1 point 15 months ago

Will it work with a Corsair SPEC-03 case?

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ThePCTurtle 1 point 15 months ago

Not one to judge, but why are you using an HDD? You could have gotten a 1tb SSD If you didn't have that HDD. Plus, SSDs are ALOT faster than HDDs.

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jstack13 1 point 15 months ago

No cpu cooler included

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 15 months ago

The CPU comes with one.

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DyErIsSiK 1 point 15 months ago

Is a 3.3 Ghz cpu enough for gaming new games on decent settings? Trying to get into my first build.

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 15 months ago

First things first: it's important you know (if you don't already) that clock speed (GHz) alone means nothing. It's not like measuring the speed of a car in miles/km per hour. It's more like measuring how many times your tires rotate per second. That information can be useful to figure out how fast you're moving, but it won't mean anything without knowing how large the tires are (and thus how far you travel for each rotation of the tire).

In other words, 3.3GHz on one CPU - such as the i5-6600 - will not amount to the same thing as 3.3GHz in another CPU - like the AMD Phenom X4. This is true even though both CPUs have 4 cores. The key information here that's missing is your IPC (Instructions Per Cycle).

Anyway, to answer the question you're really getting at here, the i5-6600 will perform very well in new games on decent settings. It should also last you quite a long time.

DyErIsSiK 1 point 15 months ago

Thank you for that information. I was unaware of that. I've been doing a lot of research over the parts, but misunderstood clock speed. Do you know of any good how to videos for this set up or similar? As I said before this will be my first build and I am very nervous that I will do something wrong and waste 1,000 dollars. I've replaced simples things like RAM and hard drive before.

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steveori 1 point 15 months ago

Besides the parts in the list, what else does the computer need?

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duurek 1 point 15 months ago

pretty much running this build and i love it

Pure_Darkness 1 point 15 months ago

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/mshcf8, i think this would be a better choice especially if you ever though of overclocking, if not you could save a few bucks on somthing not for overclocking, but this would be better or you could add a rx 480 or something , although choosing a wd or seagate would be a better hard drive choice but this is an option

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Pure_Darkness 1 point 15 months ago

im going off msrp not the founders, would wait for custom coolers, just going off his 16 gb's, you dont need a lot of of accessories for a motherboard so i chose something to save money, and it is a start as you require a cpu cooler as it does not come with a stock one, you can upgrade that later for a very good and cheap price

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Pure_Darkness 1 point 15 months ago

very good arguments i was just squeezing the budget, the 6600k does not have a stock cooler, the entry z170 is there just in case, most people don't overclock anyways but buy the overclockable things just in case or so they get the higher clock speed, so i went off that mentality

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SuperStormling 1 point 15 months ago

I would have (probably) chosen this Gaming Build as my Future PC IF, the components weren't (like) triple the price in Canada.And remember, that's only the PC.Imagine the OS, sound card, Peripherals, Optical Drive,and CPU Cooler.

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Dwingle 1 point 15 months ago

This is rubbish

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garrickh 1 point 15 months ago

How will the rx 480 coming out compare to the 390x?

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gaurangnext 1 point 15 months ago

Hi this is my first time building PC and want to build this one. Do you have any video for this?

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gaurangnext 1 point 15 months ago

Ok, thank you so much. I saw the entry level video of urs and already ordered parts with few changes. Excited to build it. Will update how it goes. Thank you.

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APEBuilt 3 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

There are definitely some optimizations to consider here:

The 3TB HDD is a burden for overall value for the system so I removed it and chose a single SSD in the 480GB+ catagory from parametric filter because it would allow many AAA titles to be installed on the system.

Next, I chose the Core i7-6700K because it is a substantially faster CPU for gaming albeit not a great value because it has a ~25-35% higher clock speed out of the box compared to all i5 CPUS. I added a simple, effective cooler for about $20 to ensure low acoustics as well and some mild overclocking ability as well. I then changed the RAM parametric filter to only allow with heatspreaders because they are usually going to enhance the aesthetics of the system for a very marginal price increase. I saved a bit of money on the case with is still a high quality one and kept a very similar PSU. The last major change which should be noted is the motherboard area. I chose H170 and Z170 chipsets, ATX form factor, added a minimum 1 m.2 slot for future storage upgrades and also made sure SLI and or Crossfire was supported for future GPU upgrades. Almost every change I made was to increase the performance out of the box or to allow the system to age well with upgrades.

Here is my counter argument: PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/g6y4Cy Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/g6y4Cy/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Newegg) CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 300 55.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($17.99 @ SuperBiiz) Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Pro4S ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($82.98 @ Newegg) Memory: Team Elite Plus 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Silicon Power Silm S55 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($100.98 @ Newegg) Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 390X 8GB Tri-X OC Video Card ($309.99 @ Newegg) Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.49 @ SuperBiiz) Total: $1039.40 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available *Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-24 20:08 EDT-0400

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APEBuilt 3 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

16GB is needed. I have worked directly with DICE developers in person to find out that with DX12 games and newer 2016 and later DX11 titles (especially at higher than 1080P resolutions) 8GB of RAM is not enough for gaming and this is not a Frostbite Engine exclusive scenario. I believe the common thought that modern gaming systems don't "need" more than 8GB of RAM is a concept that applies to current non AAA titles and older games with no thought toward the future. Also, IMHO the price for an upgrade to 16GB is small enough it should be included in all gaming systems being built with new parts ($30 vs $50 cost in USA for 8GB vs 16GB of RAM) I recently built a$450 gaming system and was easily able to include 16GB of ram and an SSD and at that price.

I have found that the majority of users I know that game a lot and would have a "need" or desire for a mid range or better gaming PC would not need extra storage of a spinning disk and the money is better spent elsewhere in a system like on the GPU. Also, R9 390X is still one of the best gaming values until RX480 and similar performing cards are actually available to the public but as I mentioned in a different response a system with a GTX 980Ti and a core i5 can be had at about$1100 at the time of this posting.

Not meant to be a rant but a discussion. Thanks for peaking my interest.

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APEBuilt 3 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

I wonder what the RAM usage difference is between operating systems because I am using Windows 7...

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alle1410 1 point 15 months ago

This is my first time building a computer. Do I need to buy a separate cooling system, or is everything I get from this list good enough?

rightinthepope 2 Builds -1 points 16 months ago

Great build for the price! The only changes that I would personally make is that I would go for a 6600k, aftermarket CPU cooler, and Z170 board and replace the 390x for a 390. I would also probably use a cheaper case. It would be about the same price. Overall though, super solid.

Shigura 3 points 16 months ago

For the added expense, you would see virtually zero performance gains going to an overclock without a higher tier video card for gaming.

All_dem_parts 1 point 16 months ago

You can oc the msi r9 390 gaming, in my experience it has nearly the same performance as my 390x.

Shigura 2 points 16 months ago

I meant in terms of CPU OC, not GPU.

fabian6uerrero -1 points 16 months ago

it is actually possible to do an oc to the 6600. so your argument is invalid

Shigura 2 points 16 months ago

That ability was removed. Try to keep up.

weatherman0904 -1 points 16 months ago

This is good...but overkill (unless you're that much of a hardcore gamer...(aka no life????)).

Ravenhelm 2 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

There are many other uses that require much more power than even this. Also, I see absolutely nothing wrong with being a 'hardcore gamer'.

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Mr_Majestic -2 points 16 months ago

Sorry but too much of this budget was spent in the wrong places and with pascal coming out, 390Xs will have to get at least a 50% price cut to remain relevant. I would go with something like this instead

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cxsMf7

The PSU cage in this case makes it a bit of a pain to install but the PSUs fully modular design will make that a lot easier. Pascal destroyed the $300+ GPU market dude

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 16 months ago

This guide was posted before Pascal was announced, Pascal isn't available yet, Pascal benchmarks aren't available yet, and some people will want to build now, rather than wait some uncertain amount of time for when Pascal releases.

Mr_Majestic 1 point 16 months ago

If people have $1000 to spend on a computer they usually wouldn't mind waiting a few months to get something way better. the 1070 was announced to outperform the Titan X/980TI in most workloads so its pretty easy to give an estimate on where the benchmarks will lye.

I understand this was published before Pascal was announced but that doesnt change the fact that there is a specified release date and a listed MSRP

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 16 months ago

There is no publicly available release date.

Mr_Majestic 2 points 16 months ago

when i watched the live stream they said june 10th

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 16 months ago

You know what, you're right. I remember that too, now. Thank you for correcting me.

Mr_Majestic 1 point 16 months ago

i forgot my phone at home but i took a screenshot of their announcement

Orion555 -4 points 16 months ago

Won't Pascal take a different slot on the motherboard than a PCI card. Those motherboards aren't even in production yet. Early 2017 release date for the mobos and summer 2017 for the Pascals? Who knows these things? Where is this information coming from? Is this pre release sales hype? Sup wit dat?

Are these cards really faster? Who says this - and how could they know if nobody has one? What kind of slot do they go into. Those pre-release pictures look like a revamped GTX 970. So how is that better? Who are these fortune tellers and are they fakes?

Anyone - Anywhere - with any smarts knows that you wait a year until the prices go down - and there are at least 20 games made for that card before you buy it. And then and only then if it is worth it. And then only if it is on sale!

GentlemanShark 1 Build 1 point 15 months ago

Lol.

XxR4Z0RxX -3 points 16 months ago

dafuq. where is the cooler...

ThoughtA staff submitter 5 points 16 months ago

The i5-6600 comes with a cooler.

rossaaron460 -1 points 16 months ago

you should add a cooler master fan its 15 dollars more and 10X better

clocking 2 points 16 months ago

virtually useless. an non-k CPU hardly generates enough heat to warrant a non stock cooler

geardeath -4 points 16 months ago

A bit of alot of money to drop on a pc but okay .3.

ThatGuyWithPie 1 point 16 months ago

Some of the other build guides out there are double, even triple this price point, so this really is nothing.

piemancoder 1 point 16 months ago

There are other cheaper guides.

EngageDynamo -5 points 16 months ago

You can easily fit a 980ti for $1100...

Xorex64 1 point 16 months ago

No you cant

APEBuilt 3 Builds 1 point 15 months ago

Now you can,

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/3cmkTH Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/3cmkTH/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz) CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX S40 54.2 CFM CPU Cooler ($28.99 @ SuperBiiz) Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Pro4S ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($82.98 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Silicon Power Silm S55 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($100.98 @ Newegg) Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card ($449.99 @ Newegg) Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.49 @ SuperBiiz) Total: $1080.40 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available *Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-24 20:23 EDT-0400

fabian6uerrero -8 points 16 months ago

this build is so lame, I mean why would I cut price by choosing a cheap motherboard and spend it all on ssd memory and hdd, the graphic card is good but come on, a 390 would have worked better since it is overclockable. with 1200 bucks I can build this:

cpu: intel i5 6600 mobo: msi z170 m5 cooler: cooler master d92 ram: 16 gb g skills 2400 storage: 1tb hdd blue caviar WD, PLUS 240 gb SSD hyper savage case: inwin 805 red power: vega 750 gold.

I don't know why this build is on the main card. it looks like if my 13 yo cousin built it.

ThoughtA staff submitter 7 points 16 months ago

I'm not sure I follow your reasoning for a more expensive Z170 board with a locked 6600. The rest is a matter of preference. Most would prefer to have a better-performing GPU, since that is generally the largest bottleneck to gaming performance.

SSD and HDD size are also a matter of personal needs.

SeBreeze9000 3 points 16 months ago

I lol'd at your reply this build is solid man I pretty my based my build around what you've provided here. With the sales that have been going on with Newegg lately I'm that much closer to having all components.

RECKLESS1 1 Build 1 point 15 months ago

REALLY?? keep researching...

486DX -14 points 16 months ago

You should of used a 970 as they are cheaper and deliver great performance

S0nny_WarBucks58 3 Builds 9 points 16 months ago

Not as much as the 390x.

CaptainCrape 1 Build 3 points 16 months ago

the 970 is slower than both the 390 and 390X. And more expensive.

486DX 1 point 16 months ago

1070 will be better and not make your case the sun

Caminon 1 Build 3 points 16 months ago

Will everybody just shut up about Pascal for one damn second?!

486DX 1 point 16 months ago

No,pascals coming very soon so... I have a reason

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bobby567 5 points 16 months ago

It's crazy

UberGamerKing 2 points 15 months ago

because of the original comment, all the other got deleted

bradvallian411 1 point 15 months ago

Definitely.

fabian6uerrero -10 points 16 months ago

because this build sucks that’s why

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AidinLMcLaurin 2 Builds 3 points 16 months ago

Probably because of budget allocation towards mass storage and a high quality tower and spiced up 390X.

for me, 500GB Is enough storage since I am great with keeping my system clean and organized.

Everyone is different in their needs, for 1200$ I could have a build more suited towards gaming.

LBrown 1 Build 1 point 16 months ago

I really like this build as entry level but I agree, get a smaller/cheaper SSD, smaller/cheaper HDD and put the savings towards high-end 3200MHz RAM and a better CPU cooler (maybe liquid). Keep the 390X cause it's beast.

DaanKouwen 2 points 16 months ago

I agree with the 390X, But now the 1070 is for only (+-) 50 Dollar more. Wouldnt that be a better choose?

jlinares9696 1 Build 1 point 16 months ago

Liquid cooler with a NON K chip and high end ram ???? Talk about spending money in useless parts. Just save that money a get a better GPU

MiguelXx3D 1 point 16 months ago

High en RAM it's unnecessary. Istead, go cheaper on the tower, get a better mothernoard, a K series Chip and a decent cooler

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Gshocked 4 points 15 months ago

The 390x isn't cheap when you compare it to the RX 480 coming out soon.

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ClanScorpia 1 Build 1 point 15 months ago

Yooooooo. Found you here again

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JDSWR2 1 point 16 months ago

I just find the 6500 a Way better value than the 6600, performs as well and easy on the price.

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TSeel 1 point 16 months ago

I agree with most of this, but why not go for 16 GB of RAM and a 6600 if you have the money?

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danny25106 2 points 16 months ago

GTA V has serious issues when you only have 8GB, it likes to crash as do most new games for me anyway. Plus having 16GB gives a little future proofing to the system and it is not that much.

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JacobGunther12 1 point 16 months ago

Ok, how about you go and play some modded Minecraft and you'll see how fast your can get down...

S0nny_WarBucks58 3 Builds 2 points 16 months ago

Lol, you could load the whole game you are playing on your RAM. Then the loading speeds are nothing basically.

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Reason:
Note: Wattages are estimates only. Actual power draw may differ from listed values.
Component Estimated Wattage
Intel - Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor 8W - 65W
ASRock - H170A-X1/3.1 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard 17W - 70W
Team - Vulcan 16GB (1 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory 11W - 11W
Crucial - MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive 2W - 10W
Hitachi - Deskstar 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 4W - 20W
Total: 42W - 176W