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Build Guide

Entry Level AMD Gaming Build

by ThoughtA


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Be sure to check below for a special Newegg SuperCombo based on this guide!


Our CPU of choice is the Ryzen 3 1200. This CPU is inexpensive but still packs a punch with its 4 cores and 3.4 GHz turbo frequency. The R3 1200 includes a good stock cooler, so a 3rd-party cooler isn't necessary.


We're using a parametric filter to constantly select the best-priced motherboard while meeting selected criteria. In this case, we are filtering for mATX A320 chipsets, which will save us a good chunk of money. The compatibility engine will filter out anything not compatible with the build.


For this build and most machines outside of the top end enthusiast realm we opted to go with 8GB of DDR4 memory. The parametric filter finds the best price on 8GB kits of memory that are within AMD’s recommended specifications. We've limited it to DDR4-2800 and DDR4-3000 as Ryzen CPUs scale well with higher frequency memory. At the current time, using memory rated over 3000mhz is not advised without doing extra research as DIMM support can be hit or miss. AMD is working on releasing additional BIOS updates to add better compatibility for higher frequency memory.


We're using a parametric filter to select the best-priced 2TB mechanical drive. Unfortunately, with the rising cost of NAND, in addition to the rising cost of video cards due to the current mining craze, we've had to cut out the SSD in order to keep this build more budget-friendly. Everyone's needs are different, so feel free to increase capacities or add an SSD to fit yours.


Normally we would recommend the AMD RX 570 at this price point. Unfortunately, due to a recent surge in cryptocurrency mining, there is an extremely low availability of several video cards that would be appropriate at this price point. As a replacement, we suggest using the Nvidia GTX 1050 Ti. We've created a parametric filter to show you the lowest priced GTX 1050 Ti which will be powerful enough for most AAA games.

When video card stock and availability normalizes again, we will make sure to update our guides as appropriate to reflect the change in the market.


All of the components are housed in the Fractal Design Focus G Mini MicroATX mid Tower. This case is an affordable option that has front panel USB 3.0, room for full size graphics cards, and cutouts in the motherboard tray for easy cable routing. If also features 2x external 5.25" bays, 2x internal 3.5" bays, and 1x internal 2.5" bay.


For the PSU, we're using a parametric selection of a few well-reviewed semi-modular and modular units, which are all rated for good power efficiency and can provide plenty of power for this build.

Intel Version

Here is the Intel version of our Entry Level Gaming Guide.

Retailer Deals

If you're considering building this system, our friends at Newegg worked with us to put together a SuperCombo bundle based on this guide. Be sure to check it out!

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Compatibility Check: No issues/incompatibilities found.

Estimated Wattage: 227W
Component Selection Base Promo Shipping Tax Price Where
CPU $99.99 FREE $99.99 Newegg Buy
From parametric filter
  • Socket / CPU: AM4
  • Form Factor: Micro ATX
  • Chipset: AMD A320
$39.99 -$10.00 FREE $29.99 Newegg Buy
$10.00 mail-in rebate
From parametric filter
  • Speed: DDR4-2800, DDR4-3000
  • Type: 288-pin DIMM
  • Size: 8GB (2x4GB)
$84.99 FREE $84.99 Newegg Buy
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  • Capacity: 2TB - 10TB
  • Type: 7200RPM
  • Form Factor: 3.5"
$54.99 FREE $54.99 Newegg Marketplace Buy
Video Card
From parametric filter
  • Chipset: GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
$129.99 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime $129.99 Amazon Buy
Case $54.99 $54.99 SuperBiiz Buy
Power Supply $53.99 -$20.00 FREE $33.99 Newegg Buy
$20.00 mail-in rebate
Base Total: $518.93
Mail-in Rebates: -$30.00
Total: $488.93
* Using your selected merchants and only including nearby in-store pickup prices)
* Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.

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realitydroid 2 Builds 18 points 24 days ago

I have to echo what has been said numerous times already. But, do yourself a favor and get a B350 motherboard. If you shop around, you can find one for around $60. That's ~$10 more than the board featured in this guide, and that extra $10 will allow you to push the CPU well beyond its stock capabilities. This will also be good for the future, as it will allow you overclock more expensive Ryzen CPUs that you may want to upgrade to in the not-too-distant future in order to take advantage of more than 4 threads.

GamingPc2017 2 points 22 days ago


Lex_B 2 points 14 days ago

Yes, the B350 is a better deal for those who decide to overclock. The only time I can see the B320 being used is in corporate settings where they go with the cheapest RAM, CPU, graphics and other items for the every day computer workstation. Other than corporate use, the B350 is more stable when it comes to overclocking RAM, that and the ability to overclock the CPU is standard in the B350 and can't do that in the B320.

I've got a range of different AMD Ryzen motherboards now and I must say, I actually like the B350 over the X370, if you can believe it. If I want Crossfire or SLI, I stick with the X399 (Ryzen Threadrippers). For every day users on a budget, you've made the right choice, the B350 is a steal for $60.

realitydroid 2 Builds 2 points 13 days ago

It's A320, not B320. But, yes. The A320 boards definitely have a market. Either for those who don't want to overclock anything, in which case they'd do better with the 1300X than the 1200, or for those who aren't interested in doing a lot of gaming.

This build would be perfect for a small home office, or as an HTPC, and is capable of doing some decent gaming on the side.

tragiktimes101 1 point 8 days ago

Well, an A320 Biostar MoBo went on sale for $30 the other day. It's deals like this alone that make would make an A320 worth it.

Lex_B 1 point 4 days ago

Yes, indeed it would be. Biostar is making a comeback as of late, previously to the time their quality was horrible but I do give them a vote of confidence in that department. All they need to do is clean up and simpliy their BIOS menu then they have a winner.

StrapherPC 1 point 5 days ago


m.ngo3 9 points 26 days ago

You're fooling a lot of new gamers out there. A 1200 without B350?????

The R5 1200 is suuuuuch a good value, but not when it's locked! Everyone, make sure to buy a b350 chipset motherboard so you have overclocking capabilities, not a320.

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toot1231 4 Builds 8 points 26 days ago

b350 chipset is a must imo if you are getting ryzen

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IndianaRodgers 7 points 20 days ago

TBH, I don't think SSD's are worth it for budget builds. If you're on a budget it's clear that it will be a while before you can upgrade to a hard drive will last you forever. Going solo SSD is the worst you can do, it basically means you don't want any games on a gaming pc.

And all of this from a person who has an SSD.

thomann061 5 points 18 days ago

I agree with this. A 2TB HDD is a must to store your games on. I can't tell you how many times I have had to uninstall games to free up space on my SSD.

realitydroid 2 Builds 0 points 13 days ago

I think it's smarter to incorporate both into the build. A 120GB SSD for ~$60 for Windows and a few most frequently used applications, and a 1TB WD Blue for ~$45 for games.

But, if someone certainly cannot afford both, then a 1TB HDD would be the way to go. Just get used to cringing at how long your computer takes to start up (I'll never go back to a HDD as a boot drive for this reason).

tragiktimes101 1 point 8 days ago

Yeah, 20 extra seconds makes me cringe....I'm THAT impatient. (True American) XD

realitydroid 2 Builds 1 point 7 days ago

The HTPC we have in my living room doesn't have an SSD and takes about 5 minutes to boot. It's downright terrible.

tragiktimes101 1 point 7 days ago

Oh jeez. Is it 5400 RPM?

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tragiktimes101 1 point 8 days ago

Lol games take up between 40-60GB these days. A 1TB would be capable of holding 15 games...

SForPres 1 point 2 days ago

What are you talking about? Very few games break the 30GB margin, let alone 40-60GB. Most games are 15GB. 1TB would be able to to hold about 66 games, including the 8GB for Windows.

tragiktimes101 1 point 1 day ago

Windows uses between 20-40 GB first off. Hell, Windows 10 system requirement is 20GB of free space. As for 15GB for the average game, no. Not if you are talking about AA-AAA games. Hell, most of my Indie games are 15GB+.

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tragiktimes101 1 point 8 days ago

"a million games" != 15 games

I have more than a hundred games. Now, not all of them are 40-60GB but add them all up and it's more than 3TB alone. I don't have them all installed at once, but having 15 on it at once seems reasonable.

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CarCat 4 points 17 days ago

Finally, someone gets my point. My $600 budget can't fit an SSD. These PCPP forums hate me for it, but I don't want an SSD. I'm a patient person.

realitydroid 2 Builds 3 points 13 days ago

I couldn't go back to booting from a HDD. I've been spoiled by SSDs for too long (and yet to have one fail on me). That being said, I agree that they aren't 100% necessary. You can do just fine without one. Lacking an SSD doesn't make the PC less capable of gaming. It'll just be noticeably slower in certain situations, ie loading up applications, or booting up.

The other nice thing is that, if you don't have the money for it now, you can use the HDD while you wait and then upgrade to an SSD when you are ready to. If you do this, though, you may want to put Windows on its own, small, partition so you can clone it to the SSD. Unless you are fine with a reinstall.

This is why I got into PC gaming. So much flexibility.

Lobsterareawesome 4 Builds 2 points 17 days ago

Yeah.. i mean i have 750 GB of SSD storage in my system but it isn't really necessary. And i don't get people who get mad when you don't include an SSD

CarCat 1 point 16 days ago

Me neither. It went to the point where... well, read my profile description lol

Lobsterareawesome 4 Builds 1 point 16 days ago


thomann061 1 point 14 days ago

If you do not have patience buy a SSD; otherwise get a HDD :)

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Lobsterareawesome 4 Builds 1 point 14 days ago

yeah.. its so silly. I had also an argument with someone.. That person said that having no SSD is the same thing as havin no CPU in the system.. its so embarassing

PCNoob0419 2 points 15 days ago

Yes, thank you! I've never had a SSD on my old laptops or old desktop and I've never been frustrated with speed or anything. I just don't feel the need for a SSD right now. And yet people are all like "You can't just use a HDD! They're ******! I guess you don't want a 2017 PC".

It's all subjective, and I care more about storage and affordability.

realitydroid 2 Builds 1 point 13 days ago

Those are the same people who say that quad cores are dead for gaming. Ya, there are better options out there. But I don't need them right now. When I do, I'll have the money and I'll upgrade. No biggie.

SlothPotato 2 points 11 days ago

I like ssds and I have an m.2 corsair one but it is not necessary, especially for a budget build

tragiktimes101 0 points 8 days ago

Listen, "not wanting an SSD" is different than "can't fit an SSD." And SSD can easily be included in a $550~ budget. I wouldn't be mad if it were opted to go with better hardware instead of an SSD at this price point. But your words are deceptive...

CarCat 1 point 7 days ago

Hehe, even if I had all the money in the world I wouldn't use an SSD. I like waiting. I don't like instantly booting. Also, I'm used to slow. I've never had an SSD in a single PC I've ever owned. Also, no. It won't fit.

Oh wait, someone spoiled with one thinks he can; Go ahead, I dare you. Make me a $600 list that is good and has an SSD.

tragiktimes101 3 points 7 days ago

That makes no sense. Saying you like waiting but never having experienced less waiting gives you no alternate perspective. And what do you mean it won't fit? I'm spoiled with one? Interesting thought. Are you spoiled with a flat screen monitor rather than a cvt monitor? You want a good $600 list with an SSD?


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor $109.77 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $59.99 @ Newegg
Memory ADATA - 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $83.99 @ Newegg
Storage SK hynix - SL308 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $52.99 @ SuperBiiz
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $41.89 @ SuperBiiz
Video Card EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card $154.95 @ B&H
Case Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Case $63.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $39.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $607.55
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-14 00:50 EST-0500
adobesmurf 1 point 5 days ago

You can get a 2 TB SSHD for around $100 which is a decent priced and speed

Niki33 4 points 1 month ago

I'm looking for this kind of a build, I'm having a little bit higher budget, does someone mind giving me an advice on this build,I'm going for ryzen but is intel's cpu better option?

Here's the build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x4Yfqk , If possible I would've switched r5 1600 for r5 1400/r3 1300 and get the ssd?

I'm going to use the pc for gaming and I'm going to start learning photoshop,video editing, animating and so on.

Triniking 3 points 28 days ago

Since you're using the PC for video editing, you can stick to Ryzen. If you're planning to use an SSD as a boot drive, try squeezing it in now. You can get one later but someone will need to guide you with moving the OS to the SSD.

Niki33 2 points 23 days ago

Should I go for 1200? Because I can OC it with the stock cooler and I don't know my needs. Is it smarter to go for the lower, and just upgrade if I have the need to, then to go for the expensive and not use it to it's potential?

Triniking 3 points 22 days ago

If that build is within your budget, I wouldn't recommend downgrading to Ryzen 3.

Niki33 1 point 22 days ago

Is r5 1400 worth the price? And then should i go with 1400+ssd or only 1600

Triniking 3 points 21 days ago

Personally I would go with the r5 1600 since I prefer the performance over better boot times. You can also ask the others for their help.

tragiktimes101 1 point 8 days ago

The 1500X is a better value than the 1400 due to the much large L3 cache.

tragiktimes101 1 point 8 days ago

AOEMI Partition Assistant makes transferring the OS to your SSD very easy.

PCnoobmuch 3 points 28 days ago

Pretty solid, if you can afford it get 16gb ram then an SSD.

I would recommend this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/d4W8f8

You can over clock your ram and anything past 2666 ram speed is good for ryzen, i havea 1050 ti and you cant over clock much before you get artifacts and the card stays cool, there is no need for 2 fans unless where ever you are its super warm, (I am from canada and PC is in basement)

Ok thats my recommendations.

Niki33 1 point 24 days ago

Thanks foe the advice, im having trouble deciding the cpu since i dont know how much of cpu performance ill need(cant decide between 1200, 1400 or 1500x)if i go with the 1200, should i go for 1060 3gb, since ill probably be palying at 1080p or to buy an ssd, and the case ill go for phantkes p400 or corsair 270r

Lobsterareawesome 4 Builds 0 points 21 days ago

skip the 16 GB of Ram and get an SSD instead

dylan.foote 3 points 26 days ago

8gb of ram should be enough and the ryzen 3 1200 is actually not that bad. I would recommend either getting an ssd or if you have the budget upgrading to a 1060 6gb, the 1060 3gb isn't really worth the extra money.

Niki33 1 point 24 days ago

Thanks foe the advice, im having trouble deciding the cpu since i dont know how much of cpu performance ill need(cant decide between 1200, 1400 or 1500x)if i go with the 1200, should i go for 1060 3gb, since ill be playing 1080p but idk if ill need it.

ronsterman5403 3 points 20 days ago

This is a pretty solid build and kind of almost exactly what i recommended to someone with a budget similar to yours. All that was different with mine is i didn't go with 1050Ti, I went with Radeon RX 560 Priced at $129. This is definitely a good build for editing ans stuff so I think you should be OK. Hope this helps.

zoomist 4 points 21 days ago

I need some help getting this list closer to $700 this is also my first PC build and i was wondering if there were any tips you could give me. here is my build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fs32hq

The SSDs are new but they come in a pack of 2 was thinking about selling one of them.

nmunoz1015 1 Build 2 points 18 days ago

Ditch the second ssd, you only need one. Grab a regular 1tb, 7200 rpm hard drive if you are worried about storage for around $50. Switch the psu for a bronze 500 or 550 watt semi modular version for about $45. And switch the 1060 card for a 1050 ti ($150) A 1050ti is all you need for a 1080hd monitor. That should get you closer to $700

VinentPlayz 1 point 19 days ago

That looks great, but if you still want more quality, you would possibly want Ryzen 5 1600. I hear all the time that it is the most "worth-it" Ryzen. This is great if you are video editing or streaming. If you really don't plan on doing either, a good OC on your R3 should definitely be enough for an average triple a game.

If you really want it up to$ 700, I think your parts are definitely powerful enough. You could use that extra money on games, a keyboard/mouse, or get a case you think looks great to you.

You could get a liquid cooling system for some major overclocks if you'd like, but the stock Wraith Stealth is a great air cooler.

If none of these seem like options you'd want, I would definetly pocket your extra cash for another day.

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capitalsocialist 3 points 1 month ago

I'd cut down on the case and/or RAM for a b350 motherboard.

lowellwashere 3 points 29 days ago

How would I set up two monitors with this build?

FrontwardRiver6 -1 points 28 days ago

One off the motherboard one off the Video card.

tragiktimes101 2 points 8 days ago


IndiHero -1 points 20 days ago

Just plug in both monitors to the video card. You might have to use different cables, but plugging it into the motherboard would not be ideal. (It wouldn't work properly)

LatiosGaming 3 points 19 days ago

It wouldn't work at all. Ryzen does not posess an iGPU.

IndiHero 2 points 19 days ago

Forgot about that.

VinentPlayz 3 points 26 days ago

I'd say perfect except you would want a B350 motherboard to overclock the CPU, as Ryzen 3 1200 is a great value when overclocked, and I'd say 1 TB of quiet and reliable storage is better than 2TB of on-edge storage and you can't really beat the Western Digital 1TB 7200RPM HDD. Here's my highly-fluctuating take on this (pls rate):https://pcpartpicker.com/user/VinentPlayz/saved/RN2kTW

IndianaRodgers 1 point 25 days ago

the link doesn't work :(

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VinentPlayz 1 point 19 days ago

Edit : New Link Obviously not final as ram prices fluctuate a lot and GPU prices are high, I update it at least every two weeks (usually 1 week) for the best price on ram and to hope that mining will end soon so I can get an RX 570 for around MSRP.

zonk00 3 points 23 days ago

I'm looking to build a gaming pc with my 11-year old son. The build above matches the budget I had in mind. One part I don't see is an optical DVD drive. Will I need one of those? If so does anyone have recommendations that are compatible with this build?

nmunoz1015 1 Build 1 point 18 days ago

If you want to burn cd's and dvd's then yes you will need an optical drive. Any optical drive will be compatible with this case since it has 5.25 bays for the drive. All Optical drives use sized 5.25 bays, hard drives use 3.25. and most SSD's use 2.25 sized bays. So if you wanted to use one ssd, one dvd player, and one hard drive, then you would need to make sure that the case you are getting has at least one of each sized bay. But if you weren't going to use any optical drives then you wouldn't need a case that has size 5.25 bays.

Fraglepuss 2 Builds 1 point 15 days ago

If you need an optical drive simply pick a case with a spare 3.5" disk tray. This will plug in via SATA so is not hard to do, and pick up a cheap DVD player. The other option is to buy an external one. Finally if you make this Pc (it is a very good one) an SSD and a B350 motherboard would be very recommended

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zonk00 3 points 21 days ago

Good point - thanks. An external DVD drive makes total sense.

IndiHero 2 points 1 month ago

Can you overclock on A320?

Pr1ncePanda 4 points 21 days ago

You can not.

Metrix_Terabyte -3 points 1 month ago

I don't believe so, I think you need a B350 board, and you'd also need an aftermarket cooler.

Lobsterareawesome 4 Builds 6 points 1 month ago

For a mild overclock the stock cooler is enough for ryzen. And yes, you need x370 or b350 to overclock

Artosas 2 points 1 month ago

This is as close to the cheapest viable gaming budget build as you can get. The only thing I feel you could go cheaper on is bumping the ram down to 2400, potentially a cheaper case (though that may lead to just replacing it because of crap quality), and going for 1 TB hard drive. For me 1 TB HDD is sufficient because all my music is cloud based, and I only own less than about 30 AAA title games I need to store, plus I don't have a load of selfies I'm uploading to social media sites.

Sure you could go cheaper on the GPU (1030 or something RX based), but you would likely be replacing it shortly after, which isn't a money saver. And the PSU could go down to 350 but then if you want to upgrade your ryzen cpu, and add on anymore ram, or really just upgrade anything you would need to get a larger psu anyway.

So yeah any lower than this will end up costing you more in the short term. The Intel version of this is sightly cheaper (~$20, depending on what you go with) but i'd rather 4/4 cores/threads of the ryzen than the 2/4 of the pentium.

Side note: I wish this site included Microcenter because that place competes with most online retailers for price.

dylan.foote 2 points 26 days ago

going down to a 1tb hard drive would only save $5-$10, for 2 tb $53 is a great deal

Artosas 0 points 20 days ago

no question its a better deal, but to penny pinch you could drop down to 1 tb if you needed that extra few bucks to get you that gpu or cpu, etc

tragiktimes101 1 point 8 days ago

30 AAA games = 600-1800GB.

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EK999Interceptor 2 points 27 days ago

thanks for the help I have now got this set up and am just waiting for the parts to come.

lavellj12 2 points 26 days ago

Im looking for something basic PC Gaming build. My price is $450-500 is this a good build to play good steam games such as DayZ, Arma 3, Rust?

Cobalt0305 1 point 24 days ago

rust is bad

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2broke4u 1 point 20 days ago

yes this will work for you

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Lobsterareawesome 4 Builds 4 points 21 days ago

no no no! hte rx 550 is crap! stay with the gtx 1050 Ti

Lobsterareawesome 4 Builds 3 points 20 days ago

see.. the gtx 1050 Ti is way better in 99% of all games..

GamingPc2017 1 point 20 days ago

No the Rx 550 is better then the GTX 1050 TI for the game Im going to play.I know that the GTX 1050 TI is better

tragiktimes101 1 point 8 days ago

Lol, just what game is that?

Triniking 2 points 1 day ago

Probably Minesweeper. ;)

IndianaRodgers 2 points 22 days ago

is this worth it? or are there better builds with the r3?

GamingPc2017 2 points 22 days ago

And It is kind of worth it

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iraphael08 2 points 21 days ago

Help!! I bought this exact build but I'm having a very difficult time figuring out as to why the pc won't display on our monitor. Everything seemingly works fine but nothing happens once plugged in

BoyScout staff 21 Builds 4 points 20 days ago

Sorry to hear you're having trouble bringing the system up. I'd recommend you make a post in our Troubleshooting forum where more people are looking to help. Post a description of what's going on, what you've specifically tried and a link to your part list so hopefully you can get some help figuring out what's going on.

Lobsterareawesome 4 Builds 2 points 21 days ago

Where did you plug in your cables? you need to plug them into the graphics card

iraphael08 2 points 21 days ago

I did plug them into the graphics card, and still nothing will display, I've taken apart a rebuilt it twice as of now

Lobsterareawesome 4 Builds 1 point 17 days ago

Does the system boot up but there isn't any image? or doesn't it boot up at all?

iraphael08 2 points 21 days ago

I plugged it into my graphics card but it still won't post, I've tried almost everything that I can think of and got no results

Lobsterareawesome 4 Builds 2 points 20 days ago

then maybe a component is defect

AS118 1 point 27 days ago

Good build, but I would reduce the hard drive to 1TB, and maybe get a cheaper PSU and ram to put the extra funds into getting a B350 motherboard for some mild overclocking.

That said, I agree with the principles of this build, and especially the 1050 Ti, as it's very power-efficient and the strongest GPU in its price range, as anything that used to compete with it (470/570) is now WAY higher in price due to mining.

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s0ul_panth3r 1 point 20 days ago

This is well made and thought out, but why choose a 1050? They can barely play most new titles at high settings let alone get a constant playable framerate. I suggest adding either a 1060 6GB or an RX580 8GB (if the price lowers even further) and then replacing the unimportant parts. EG case, no modular psu, some cheaper RAM (8gb) and a B350 MoBo.

EDIT: I could link my build I made early in the year if you’d like to see where I’m coming from.

Lobsterareawesome 4 Builds 2 points 17 days ago

The 1050 Ti is fine.. it even handles Rainbow Six siege at 1440p a med - high settings at a constant 60 fps. The Barely play is just an outright lie.

s0ul_panth3r -1 points 14 days ago

Exactly, medium. Why would anybody waste money on something that probably isn’t an upgrade at all?

Lobsterareawesome 4 Builds 3 points 14 days ago

i said medium to high settings ON 1440P. YES 1440P, NOT 1080P. And that in my opinion is damn good for the price of the card.

tragiktimes101 1 point 8 days ago

You're trolling, right?

Triniking 1 point 20 days ago

This is the budget build list though. I think $500 was the limit.

s0ul_panth3r 1 point 18 days ago

In Aus it's 700+

VinentPlayz 1 point 19 days ago

I'm interesting in your link. Sounds like the build I've been looking for.

s0ul_panth3r 0 points 18 days ago

I won't link my PC but I'll link a friends as the prices have gone up way too high on my specs (XFX RX480 8GB and HyperX Black RAM) - https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/jx7Xjc

Remendador 1 point 3 days ago

Maybe, just maybe you should learn what entry level means.

AspiringCake 1 point 19 days ago

I'm new to building PCs. I've seen a lot of people suggesting that I purchase the B350 Motherboard instead of the one they recommend, for overclocking purposes. I've also seen a lot of people recommend and extra 8 Gb of RAM, and an SSD. What would the negatives be for not going along with these recommendations? As of right now, I don't have much interest in overclocking, as my monitor goes up to 60 fps at 1080p, so as far as I know overclocking wouldn't do much. I am very new to building PCs however, so I may be wrong. I also noticed a lack of a cooling system. Do I need to add that on, or are there cooling systems based inside the parts of this PC which will do the job?

Triniking 2 points 19 days ago

The Ryzen 3 1200 comes with a Wraith Air Cooler designed for AM4 boards so the cooler section was left empty. The A320 board was recommended since most beginners don't touch overclocking but the overclocking comes in handy if you're a gamer and want to achieve more stable framerates and some games have trouble reaching the 60Hz limit even on quad cores.

The SSD comes in handy for better boot times. The problem with getting it later rather than at the start is the process of moving the OS and other files.

The 16GB of RAM is for memory hungry games.

Lobsterareawesome 4 Builds 1 point 17 days ago

There isnt a negative side when you get better stuff.. it just costs more.. an SSD just helps with the faster speed and the PC will start up much faster when you install the OS on it

PCNoob0419 1 point 18 days ago

The RAM listed here is out of stock. And from what I’ve heard, it’s been out of stock for a while. Does anyone have any suggestions for comparable DDR4 2x4 parts that aren’t way more expensive than the $59.99? I don’t mind it being less MHz.

Lobsterareawesome 4 Builds 2 points 17 days ago

you cant really find anything for 60 bucks since the prices for Ram went waay up. The g.Skill Ripjaw V is pretty good memory

PCNoob0419 2 points 16 days ago

Thank you. I was tempted to just buy everything except the RAM and wait for it to be back in stock. Now I won’t wait

Spz 1 point 18 days ago

Hi, just a qns from someone who had never built a pc before. So assuming i buy all these parts in the guide, i just have to assemble them together and it will be built? Are there any extra physical things needed? Such as thermal paste? And are the parts bought online credible? Much appreciated for a reply.

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 17 days ago

You'll want to have a Philips head screwdriver handy, but other than that you won't need anything else for the PC. The cooler will include paste.

FruitlessTech 1 point 18 days ago

Would this be able to run triple a games at 60 fps?

acedirt234 1 point 17 days ago

The answer depends on which games, the graphic settings, and the resolution. For example, I got this build (except for the b350 motherboard) and I can play Rise of the Tomb Raider at 1080p 60fps with settings at low-med.

If you are going for 4K gaming, ultra settings, and/or triple A games from 2017, you'll probably need a 1060 6g or higher.

Try this website to get a general idea of the graphics card performance https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1050-Ti-Desktop.181032.0.html

Lobsterareawesome 4 Builds 3 points 17 days ago

for 4k the 1060 6GB is way too weak..

Fullestracer15 1 point 17 days ago

do not get a motherboard that cheap i don't understand why this build is so expensive mines only $520 and it has pretty good parts in it

guitpicker007 21 Builds 1 point 15 days ago

His has a better PSU, case and has a bigger hdd. He is also using better ram. Easy to see why his build is close to $500.

Skrlz 1 point 17 days ago

Can this run battlefield 1 at medium settings at least?

Lobsterareawesome 4 Builds 1 point 17 days ago


acedirt234 1 point 17 days ago

It's been one month since I used this build as a guide for buying parts for my first PC. Big thanks to the author of the build, and to those in the comments who recommended the B350.

For those getting into building your first PC, here are a few tips. -Ask yourself what games you'll be playing and what graphics you'll be Ok with. -Google each graphics card to get an idea of how games perform. -be flexible with your budget, account for the monitor, keyboard, mouse, Ethernet, and windows 10 -Do your research. Youtube helped extensively in prep for building. -Have fun.

AnthonyOregon 1 point 17 days ago

Is this better than Austin's Photon3.0 $500 build?(closer to 600 nowdays)

Lobsterareawesome 4 Builds 2 points 17 days ago

they are around the same.. if you OC the CPU though this build is going to be a bit better

AnthonyOregon 1 point 10 days ago

What about upgrades? I'm looking to build a PC like this and upgrade part by part as I go. This and Austin's are my favorites so far but im 100% brand new to PC's so I'm not sure what can or can't be upgraded with these systems.

Thanks for the help so far!

Lobsterareawesome 4 Builds 1 point 10 days ago

If you want to upgrade this system is the better choice since the CPU of the photon 3.0 is already a generation old. This has a way better upgrade path and you can upgrade everything. But as you might have read i would really get a motherboard with the b350 chipset. Something like the MSI - B350M GAMING PRO. And get a single 8GB stick of memory instead of 2 x 4GB so you can upgrade to 16GB in the future. And you can swap out the CPU in the future no problem with a better CPU as long it has the AM4 socket and is compatible with the motherboard. Also the video card would be very easy to upgrade. Just take the old one out, put the new one in and install the drivers and you are good to go. I recently upgraded from a 1050 Ti to a 1080 Ti and i was done in like 30 minutes including the installation of the drivers. So its very easy to do. I would get an SSD from the beginning since adding one later is a bit annoying to do. A 120 GB or 240 GB would be enough. I recommend gettinga 240 GB or a 250GB though.

Kaiwala 1 point 15 days ago

I want to get a decent gaming PC that can run triple A games like Ark Doom Rust etc at a healthy framerate with medium or low graphics, i want good memory and i don't want to overclock. I'm a bit of a PC noob, but i don't want to break my spine spending my soul on a pre-made PC like alien as i'd much rather build mine for a much cheaper price, below £500 if possible. If anyone can give me any suggestions that would be great, try to not overload the jargon though because it will go right over my head.

acedirt234 1 point 15 days ago

Check out this link to get a rough idea of what each graphics card is capable of https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1050-Ti-Desktop.181032.0.html

If the gtx 1050 ti sounds right for you, this build should be fine. If you still want to cut corners in terms of cost, get 8gb ram with a slower ddr4 speed (as long as it's compatible with the motherboard), a 1tb hard drive, and search for a case with a lower price.

Ask a friend or post on the forms to see if your parts will work for you. Then purchase your stuff.

zoomist 1 point 13 days ago

you really should just take down that ram, I've ordered it weeks ago and still haven't gotten it with no clue on when it will get back in stock. also the video card is $20 cheaper on new egg with a promo code.

ThoughtA staff submitter 3 points 13 days ago


nasua 1 point 13 days ago

I'm looking for a new gaming computer for 1000$. I liked your build but tweaked it a bit for my budget, https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/2HrCGf . Is this build still good?

Lobsterareawesome 4 Builds 1 point 7 days ago

Your build seems good but there are things i would change. Here is my recommended part-list. I will also explain what the changes are and why I made them.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor $139.00 @ PCCaseGear
Motherboard ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $105.00 @ Shopping Express
Memory Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $133.00 @ Umart
Storage SanDisk - SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $68.00 @ Shopping Express
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $59.00 @ Shopping Express
Video Card EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING Video Card $349.00 @ Mwave Australia
Case Corsair - 100R ATX Mid Tower Case $68.00 @ Shopping Express
Power Supply Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $78.00 @ Shopping Express
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $999.00
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-14 03:19 AEDT+1100

I tweaked your build a little bit and made it better in my opinion. So here is what I left and what I changed

CPU: Left that one.

Motherboard: I swapped it to a Motherboard that has the B350 Chipset. With the A320 Chipset you cannot overclock your CPU. And the ryzen 3 1200 without overclock doesnt fulfill its full potential. Its still a good CPU without overclock but i would recommend a mild overclock. The stock heatsink is good enough to handle a mild overclock.

Memory: I left that one.

Storage: I left the 1TB Caviar Blue HDD And i added a 120GB SanDisk SSD as it will lower yout boot-time drastically when you install the OS on it.

Video card: I just swapped it out with a cheaper version. Still a solid card. The SC edition just has a higher clockspeed.

Case: I changed it to a cheaper case. I put in the Corsair 100r ATX mid-tower. It may not be the very best case but it has everything you need. I have that case for my personal Rig and the only downside is the poor cable management. But with a little work you can still make your system look pretty. And the build-quality is good too. I'm overall happy with the case.

PSU: I left that one too.

I know it costs 30 bucks more but you'll have the option to OC your CPU AND you get a SSD. Let me know if you have further questions.

Broke_Gamer 1 point 12 days ago

Will it be able to run games like Overwatch or Destiny 2 on medium settings?

Lobsterareawesome 4 Builds 2 points 7 days ago

At 1080p you'll be able to run Overwatch on ultra settings and still get 60 fps. Destiny should be fine on medium settings i think

Broke_Gamer 1 point 6 days ago

Ok, thank you! =)

dustinludlow3@gmail.com 1 point 10 days ago

with $100 you can build BEAST of a pc with a ryzen 5 1500x https://pcpartpicker.com/user/dustinludlow3%40gmail.com/saved/NHYLD3

Gcole6 1 point 10 days ago

should have got a cheaper case and a 1060

griphox21 1 point 9 days ago

hello I am the only one who made a research and check out that the Ryzen 3 1200 only support up to 2666 of ram speed, so if you put any higher will be just waste of money an resources. Sorry for bad english.

UdisAmusian 3 Builds 1 point 8 days ago

So not entry level.

PCNoob0419 1 point 7 days ago

How so?

UdisAmusian 3 Builds 1 point 7 days ago

I scrolled all the way down to my comment... Well, if this revision is posted 25 days ago, then I would say it may be a bit better, and not as non-budget friendly as it is now. If someone's building an entry level gaming PC, and just happens to target on AMD, sure AMD's Ryzen 3 series is the way to go. However, Ryzen 3 1200 only supports up to 2667MHz of memory, the memory this guide mentioned is way over and you have to downclock the memory, kind of waste of money. It is true that the memory clock is beneficial if you upgrade to a better processor, but what's the chance of you buying the 1200, and after a short while you have the cash to purchase a better processor? The 1050 Ti dropped its price a while ago so I do see the paying less getting more strategy, but now? 1050 Ti is 50 dollars more than the 1050, and you can only see an average of 16% performance increase, so you are paying about 30% more for 16% performance increase, I personally don't think that's a great purchase. Sure, the 1050 Ti has more CUDA cores and more VRAM than the 1050, but for an entry level gaming PC? 1050 Ti might be a bit of an overkill. Speaking of upgrade? Unless you are definitely sure that you will upgrade in the future, I don't see buying a 1050 Ti, at least for now, is reasonable.

As for the storage, I think 1TB is enough, but if you just happen to have every single game on the market and you play all of them at the same time, go ahead. SSDs are still not as budget friendly as the mechanical hard drives.

Speaking of the budget, the case does NOT affect the performance what-so-ever, choose which one is cheap and if you like, looks great. Same story goes to the power supply, there's no need of going semi- or fully modular, as long as the efficiency is good, you have no problem of choosing something cheap.

UdisAmusian 3 Builds 1 point 7 days ago

Christ I typed a lot.

Seveen 1 point 8 days ago


is your DDR4 working with your CPU ? because i see max speed memory that CPU support is 2667 Mhz and your RAM is 3000 Mhz

MoisesPaul 1 point 6 days ago

I am lost to read and every time I lose more in this world. I want to build a computer that allows me to play without problems, which is not very expensive. But the most important thing is that the pieces do not exceed $ 200 US for a tax issue, since I live outside of the United States.

A budget would be more or less 600 to 700 dollars.

Lobsterareawesome 4 Builds 1 point 6 days ago

I didn't really understand the question.. what do you need help with?

ThomasGWayne 1 point 5 days ago

Go look on youtube, look up something like PC Builds For $200 Or Less. Hope that helps you, but if not, ask your question again.

KungFuKappy 1 point 6 days ago

Hi Guys

Have found this thread SO useful! Thanks to all involved and thanks ThoughtA!

I am going for this build, I just have a few questions.

I have swapped out the A320 as suggested and gone for "ASRock AB350M Socket AM4 AMD B350 DDR4 SATA3&USB3.0 M.2 MicroATX Motherboard" Is this a good choice? and is it compatible?

I have also gone for a different case, the "DeepCool Tesseract SW Black/Blue Case + Side Window" Again, good choice? and is it compatible?

Finally, a mate suggested getting a cheaper RAM, is this a good idea and does anyone have any suggestions?

I am using this for games such as Overwatch and Fortnite.


SLGaming 0 points 1 month ago

I just go for cheaper ddr4-2400 ram for around 60$

GamingPc2017 2 points 22 days ago

Its better to go with faster ram when having a Ryzen CPU

NWhite4720 4 points 20 days ago

Faster RAM won't benefit it in games when pairing it with the 1050 Ti, so if gaming is the primary use of this PC, don't buy faster RAM, as it is unnecessary. It is useful in other situations, but not in gaming if you have lower tier graphics card. The performance increase will be negligible (1-2 FPS increase), and it doesn't warrant the extra cost.

injourney 2 points 19 days ago

yup. ram speed really kicks in when you arnt gpu bound

GamingPc2017 1 point 19 days ago


2broke4u 0 points 20 days ago

No SSD is there a reason?

VinentPlayz 2 points 19 days ago

I'm okay with waiting an extra minute or two for windows to start and an extra 20 seconds for loading screens for an extra $100-200

Lobsterareawesome 4 Builds 1 point 17 days ago


sAigeConstantin 1 point 5 days ago

I was gonna add a 120GB SSD to my build however i found that it added an additional 50+ dollars to the overall price. This build is aimed toward the budget builder that cant give up a whole lot.

sAigeConstantin 0 points 5 days ago

I would personally go with a Full ATX board with a Ryzen 5 chipset and maybe downgrade to a 1050 2GB until the Crypto Scare is done. Also, for 20 dollars less (last time i checked) you can get a V Ripjaws 8GB DDR4 2660. Then over time you can add more Memory. A decent full ATX case will cost 5 dollars more. One that wont draw blood at least.

Lobsterareawesome 4 Builds 1 point 2 days ago

get the faster memory.. ryzen likes faster memory

iraphael08 -1 points 17 days ago

I think I'm going to have to give this build a negative review. Unless I'm just the only one, I'm having nothing. It misfortune trying to get this to post. Ive taken it to a shop asked on forums and even they can't seem to uncover the truth as to why this is happening. Even if there is a faulty part. I have no way of knowing. I hope I can return all of it. This just deterred my dreams of owning a pc and shattered them. For those who are curious, stay away or find a better build.

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 17 days ago

It looks like you didn't really engage with those responding to your troubleshooting post or really go very far in troubleshooting it (or didn't express how far you went). I encourage you to try to narrow down the problem component so you can figure out what's going on and how to handle it.

Lobsterareawesome 4 Builds 1 point 17 days ago

this build is compatible... Either you made a mistake while building or a part was broken. It isnt the part lists fault.. What exactly is the problem? Does the system start up but there is no image? or doesnt it start up at all?

RainOfPain125 -7 points 29 days ago

I've done tons and tons of research, and I can tell you that you definitely don't need certain things

For starts, I definitely don't need more than 1TB of storage. Some people are gaming fanatics and have bunches of Triple A games in their libraries, but rest assured I'm not one of those people. You could cheapen the Hard Drive to a Seagate Barracuda 1TB and you'd get more performance

That case also is definitely not needed. If your like me and you just want to game than you really don't care about the looks of your build or case. I chose a 20$ case that gets the job done just fine

I don't see the need for paying the extra premium to get modular, you can always get it cheaper with non-modular

Considering this is a entry-level build you DEFINITELY won't need the TI version of the 1050. I'm aiming to get the Mini GTX 1050 from Zotac. My friend has it and says he can easily bust 60FPS on 1080p on all games (albiet me and him don't care too much about the graphics settings)

There was absolutely no need to get 2800MHz RAM since that board can only go up to 2666MHz. I'd suggest getting DDR4-2400MHz 2x4GB

The plain version of the A320 board comes with more premium things like the better power choke. The HDV version is only good if you are planning to have an APU (which you clearly aren't)

And yeah, thats about it. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zq8yGf Around 70$ less

Gl4cial 5 points 27 days ago

I disagree with settling for a 1050Ti, I've seen some gameplay comparisons and benchmarks on youtube and it looks like quite a jump from just the 1050 to the Ti version. Also I think the board should be changed to a b350, just to take advantage of Ryzen's OC capabilities in the future. But everything else that you've said, I agree with.

dylan.foote 4 points 26 days ago

The 1050 and the 1050 ti have very different performance. The 1050 ti is much better. 2gb just isn't enough.

LatiosGaming 4 points 26 days ago

Agreed. TI gives you 128 more CUDA cores and double the VRAM.

RainOfPain125 0 points 24 days ago

It definitely should be enough if you are playing on 1080p and don't plan on playing with the highest texture settings. IMO an entry level gaming build should just be able to get 60fps on 1080p, my suggestion isn't directed towards looks or high (or maybe even medium) graphic settings.

s0ul_panth3r 2 points 20 days ago

Mate, the 1050 can’t run anything on settings higher than medium or low on 720 let alone 1080, stop kidding yourself.

RainOfPain125 1 point 20 days ago


I plan on getting it lol. Friends have said they can pull off 60fps with 1080p on lowest settings.

realitydroid 2 Builds 1 point 24 days ago

Don't want to cheap out too much though. Doing so will just cost more in the future when it is time to upgrade.

The 1050 is great for casual games, mobas, or CSGO. It can handle a few AAA titles as well, but I'd say get the Ti as that'll give you far better performance and fewer headaches. Also, keep the faster memory and just swap the board out for a B350 in order to take advantage of the OC ability of the 1200. This will also allow you to potentially OC your memory (got mine to 2933MHz).

As far as the PSU is concerned, whether or not one goes with modular is purely down to preference. Same with the case (I got my Cooler Master for free).

Lobsterareawesome 4 Builds 1 point 23 days ago

if you cheap out too much youll regret it

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