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Great AMD Gaming Build

by ThoughtA

NOTE: A more recent version of this guide is available here.

Description

CPU

At this budget, we're using the AMD Ryzen 5 1600. The R5 1600 includes a stock cooler, so a 3rd-party cooler isn't necessary. Since we aren't overclocking our CPU, the stock cooler will be sufficient in keeping temperatures acceptable.

Note: If you'd prefer to consider a similar build, but instead using an Intel processor, be sure to check out our Great Intel Gaming Build Guide.

Motherboard

We're using a parametric filter to constantly select the best-priced motherboard while meeting selected criteria. In this case, we are filtering for ATX B350 chipsets and up to 4 DDR4 DIMM slots for future expansion. The compatibility engine will filter out anything not compatible with the build.

Memory and Storage

For this build and most machines outside of the top end enthusiast realm we opted to go with 8GB of DDR4 memory. The parametric filter finds the best price on 8GB kits of memory that are within AMD’s recommended specifications. We've limited it to DDR4-2800 and DDR4-3000 as Ryzen CPUs scale well with higher frequency memory. At the current time, using memory rated over 3000mhz is not advised without doing extra research as DIMM support can be hit or miss. AMD is working on releasing additional BIOS updates to add better compatibility for higher frequency memory. We're use parametric filters to incorporate an SSD with at least 500GB of space. Everyone's storage needs differs, so feel free to change those capacities as needed.

GPU

In light of recent stock shortages due to the current cryptocurrency mining craze, we've updated the GPU to the more powerful Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080. It's one of the best price for performance cards on the market and an absolute powerhouse. The GTX 1080 will provide a consistent 60fps on many demanding games like Battlefield 1 at Ultra at 1080p, and even 1440p for some games like Shadow of Mordor. For those interested in VR, the GTX 1080 will have no problem playing any and and all applications currently on the market.

When video card stock and availability normalizes again, we will make sure to update our guides as appropriate to reflect the change in the market.

To keep the noise and temperatures down, we've updated the filter to include a minimum length to avoid "mini" versions of the card, which prioritize fitting into small builds, such as an ITX case. You can choose to use this filter instead, if you want to include the smaller cards for any reason. Note that smaller cards will be louder or hotter - or both.

Case

The build will be housed in the Cooler Master MasterBox 5 mid tower. The MasterBox 5 features 2 USB 3.0 front panel ports and has room for video cards of any length. It includes a PSU shroud to hide unsightly cables, plenty of bays for storage drives, and it has room for multiple radiators. There are also plenty of cable management holes.

If you're interested, there's also a black version of the case.

PSU

For our power supply, we're using a parametric selection of well-reviewed semi or fully modular units, all of which are 80+ Gold certified or above and can provide plenty of power for this build.

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Estimated Wattage: 239W
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Motherboard
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  • Chipset: AMD B350
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Memory
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  • Speed: DDR4-2800, DDR4-3000
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  • Capacity: 500 GB - 10000 GB
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Video Card
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  • Chipset: GeForce GTX 1070
  • Length: 220 mm - 403 mm
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WirelessCables 1 Build 12 points 23 months ago

When the staff copy each other's build guides

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Lobsterareawesome 8 Builds 6 points 23 months ago

Do you actually know what fascism is? deleting comments sure as hell isnt fascism ;)

WirelessCables 1 Build 3 points 22 months ago

Lol I knew that comment was going to be deleted, not only because it didn't follow guidelines, but if you were to make a comment like that about staff deleting comments, you're probably going to get trolled.

WirelessCables 1 Build 2 points 22 months ago

Thank you

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manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 5 points 22 months ago

Comments like this will not be tolerated on our site.

CuriousGamer007 1 point 22 months ago

Too right!

KumputerZ 1 point 22 months ago

lol

NewVoid 1 Build 3 points 22 months ago

I wonder what it was XD

Potato_ 1 point 22 months ago

Now I'm curious as to what the comment said, could someone give me a compliant jist of it?

WirelessCables 1 Build 4 points 23 months ago

And delete comments like a fascist state.

That's not a bad thing. Most of the comments they delete are people being rude for no reason, or just trolling and wasting space.

John_Titor 10 points 23 months ago

Mmm. This is basically what I built last month. Ryzen was worth the wait!

inform880 0 points 22 months ago

Have you tried any VR games? I'm wondering if the 1600 will be a bottleneck for the 1070.

John_Titor 1 point 22 months ago

I have not played any VR games, but I ran the Steam VR test and it passed on the far end of Very Good and considered VR ready. It did not indicate a CPU bottleneck at any time.

NewVoid 1 Build 1 point 22 months ago

No, Ryzen is not a bottleneck but with the stock cooler and good airflow in the case, you can safely overclock to 3.8ghz so I would highly recommend. If you wan't to overclock to 4.1 you will need an aftermarket cooler or a liquid cooling system. Also, you can certainly get more than 60fps on a 1070.

skippyikeoh -6 points 22 months ago

I would think so. I am making a build with the 1600x right now and my build is cheaper due to the fact I'm using a hybrid hdd, cheaper case, non modular B500w psu, and a slightly cheaper mobo. Mine will definitely run better than this one, but it might not be as nice looking. I don't understand the choice of cpu for this when the 1600x is so much better.

dkaarvand 7 points 22 months ago

No, the Ryzen 1600 will absolutely not be of any bottleneck towards a GTX 1070. A Ryzen 1600 might be holding back the GTX 1080 in certain games. But we're talking about very few examples. The more cores a CPU have, the happier the GPU is. The same goes for 1600x, its XFR boost does not help a potential bottleneck because XFR only boosts one core to its maximum of 4.1GHz - while the other cores are running at 3.8GHz. There is absolutely no point buying a 1600 without overclocking all cores up to 4.0 GHz. That's six cores at 4.0 GHz. I don't see why anyone would buy a 1600x over a 1600, as overclocking is just as easy as using Paint.

SmAk_9H 3 points 22 months ago

But the 1600x is only better if you don't want to overclock.

skippyikeoh 3 points 22 months ago

I just educated myself on the overclocking ability of the 1600. Damn, thanks for saving me 60 dollars on a cooler and CPU dude. Even if you didn't mean to.

skippyikeoh 2 points 22 months ago

What about overclocking with the 1600x? It does overclock to 4ghz. Can the 1600 overclock to that?

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nightmare07gt 5 points 23 months ago

Were you able to actually run that at 3000mhz with that board? The QVL does not show this particular RAM. Building a system similar to this and interested.

ryansmith18 1 point 23 months ago

Newegg shows a max of 2667, but ASRock's site (http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/AB350%20Pro4/#Specification) shows that it supports up to 3200.

SirDudeness12 4 points 22 months ago

I'm a total novice trying to learn where to start. On the list here there's no operating system, wired or wireless adapters, and no audio card. I'm sure this is all intentional, but can someone explain to me as to why those things are missing? Does the motherboard come with audio and wired connection built into the board?

Again, I'm just starting to learn about parts and I want to learn before I commit.

One more bit: if I need to work on web and graphic design and only want to game on occasion, would it hurt to save money with a 1060 6GB Card?

KingOneF 2 points 22 months ago

The motherboard will come stock with an Ethernet port, if you want wireless functionality you will have to add that. Most people do not buy audio cards but just use the audio functionality that is built into the motherboard. There is no OS included because not everyone uses windows.

SirDudeness12 3 points 22 months ago

Okay, that's what I thought based on what I've read. Thanks so much, I didn't want to buy something unnecessary or not buy something important.

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MrDez 1 point 22 months ago

I know it doesn't have wireless adapter, not sure about wired though. I'm new myself

SatvirSingh 1 point 22 months ago

you can plug an Ethernet cable to the motherboard

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SirDudeness12 2 points 22 months ago

Very helpful, thank you.

riftking 3 points 22 months ago

1060 will run most games at 1080p ultra/very high 60fps

Matthew83 1 point 22 months ago

Pretty much all consumer motherboards have on board sound and ethernet these days :)

JackOfSpades789 1 point 22 months ago

Because I am am curious, would you happen to know why 32 bit operating systems are still a thing? you can do more on 64 bit than 32 bit right?

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JackOfSpades789 1 point 22 months ago

Exactly, so why would you recommend 32 bit?

AntonyHanna 3 points 23 months ago

I am new to PC. How would I get wifi to work on this?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 3 points 23 months ago

You would need a wireless adapter.

Dragonfistx200 3 Builds 1 point 22 months ago

or opt for some other motherboard with wifi built in

Squire001 1 point 22 months ago

Is there any Ryzen compatable MOBO with wifi + Bluetooth 4.0?

CyberVegasCat 5 points 22 months ago

I'd just buy a 10 dollar USB wifi adapter

clarkey93 1 point 22 months ago

I wouldn't say don't buy them, however I dislike usb adapters as they often aren't very good. you get what you pay for. I personally cant see why there are so few motherboards with built in wireless! look at the best selling z270 board and you will most likely see that it is the strix z270E (wireless)

SzYmO_ 1 point 22 months ago

Yup, but it's super expensive. It's the Crosshair VI HERO X370, make sure to find the "Wi-Fi AC" version though. The two are almost identical, but one does include Wi-Fi and Bluetooth and the other does not.

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crabby09 3 points 23 months ago

Make this a mini-ITX build and I'm sold! :p

Vergere 7 Builds 4 points 22 months ago

"Soon" -ASRock

Aluke 2 points 22 months ago

I'm new to gaming PCs and I would like to to know what monitor I should get, also ill this run games like GTA V with 60fps+?

LogicHax 2 points 22 months ago

Yup. Probably more. The 1070 is a good card.

deathbat6916 1 Build 1 point 22 months ago

Keep advanced graphics off and it'll stay above 100fps

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JudahRoars 1 Build 2 points 22 months ago

Basically my same line of thought. The 1600 with cooler gives some great breathing room for the budget.

WEBMASTERS-TEAM 1 point 22 months ago

...you "got" it ! ...

Christianbecker3 1 point 22 months ago

Yes, the stock cooler gives some breathing room, but something as simple as the very popular Hyper 212 EVO from Cooler Master offers great cooling performance (for an air cooler), leaving plenty of room for some pretty good overclock speeds. My build has a Hyper 212 EVO, which cost me about $20 I think when I bought it last June. It was my first build, and that was when I found out the hard way (since I was new to the whole computer hardware side of computers) that I bought a locked CPU. Still works great in the $450 budget build I did last year.

shreder75 2 points 22 months ago

Cool build. But no extra case fans?

Ali3nDubst3p 1 Build 2 points 22 months ago

thats what i thought. i am using a very similar build, but with a GIGABYTE 1060 oc v2, and the extra money went into a hue+ and some aer rbg fans. it looks amazing IMO.

shreder75 1 point 22 months ago

An extra couple fans can't hurt, right? I've got two worked into my potential build, and that's on top of the fan that comes in the case. I'd rather save myself the extra few bucks, but I don't want to take a chance with things heating up and running like crap or failing outright.

riftking 2 points 22 months ago

2 case fans is fine in nearly all cases unless you have a case with super restricted intake.

shreder75 1 point 22 months ago

My thinking, too.

riftking 2 points 22 months ago

So as I said you really dont need to spend more money at all. Take a look at Linus' video- 'Case fans how many should you have?'

Ali3nDubst3p 1 Build 2 points 22 months ago

you probably wont need too many extra case fans, as ryzen tends to be a rather cool chip, unless you plan on overclocking. (which i had no real need for) for me the extra case fans were purely for looks and to keep rpm at a minimum to keep noise down

shreder75 1 point 22 months ago

thanks!

kayoriceball 1 point 22 months ago

Would a Corsair Carbide 400C work with this build instead of the CoolerMaster case?

cubeslice 2 points 22 months ago

I don't see why not. Pretty much any case, as long as it is ATX, would work with this build.

Ali3nDubst3p 1 Build 1 point 22 months ago

the only thing you might have to check is the graphics card length. other than that there aren't really any parts that don't fit with any atx case

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Chris4365 1 point 22 months ago

I am new to pc builds and gaming as I have a laptop and just a mouse right now looking to do my first build this summer. I would like to know if this build would work for someone who is in college relying on wifi 95% of the time. I play games such as WoW, overwatch, etc. will this build be able to run these high - ultra and be compatible with wifi? (I believe someone already asked that). Please give any tips as anything would help. I'm thinking of just copying this build completely.

NipsiumOxide 3 Builds 3 points 22 months ago

A wireless adapter would do you good in that situation for sure.

MrDez 2 points 22 months ago

The creator of this said a wireless adapter would be needed to connect to wifi, other than I'm as clueless as you brother

Joshua4missions 1 Build 2 points 22 months ago

Yeah, just pop a wireless adapter in one of the PCIE slots and you are golden.

MrDez 1 point 22 months ago

How many PCIE slots does it have? (I'm a newbie)

80-wattHamster 1 Build 2 points 22 months ago

The board listed at the current moment (parts selected via filters can change based on pricing and availability) has six: two x16 and four x1. You'd want a wireless adapter in an x1 slot. Most ATX boards will have a similar number, while mATX boards usually have one x16 and two or three x1.

Mediciu5 3 Builds 1 point 22 months ago

Just to add a little more detail - x1 vs x16 are the number of lanes (most easily deciphered by the length of the gold connectors that fit into the MB PCI-E slots). So the wifi card will be PCI-E x1, but it can be used in any PCI-E slot the same size or larger.

Do a google search for "PCIE x1 vs x16" and you should see the differences in length for the various PCIE slots.

theintrovert 1 point 22 months ago

The build looks nice. Having a 1070 looks future ready as i believe you throw anything at it on max settings @ 1080p this will always give above 60fps. Having said that - for how many years would this build be sufficient for a smooth gaming experience?

shreduhsoreus 5 Builds 2 points 22 months ago

Ghost Recon Wildlands begs to differ. Game is insane on both the CPU and GPU.

If you're OK with the graphics a 1070 provides you should be set with that card until it dies(the highest possible settings in games will get prettier as time goes by, while you may have to turn down settings, the 1070 will still look good). As for the CPU it depends on if/when game developers start to code their games to use as many threads as available(WAY easier said than done). If they do, the Ryzen CPU will be good for 5-10 years. If not, I'd say up to 5. I can't see you needing more than 16GB of RAM for gaming for at least 5 more years either.

deathbat6916 1 Build 1 point 22 months ago

Watch Dogs 2 also begs to differ, but it's also better on the optimization front than Wildlands so there's that^

shreder75 1 point 22 months ago

Noob question: Is that RAM any good? I've never heard of them before, not that that means much of anything. No reviews here, and only a couple on Newegg. I'm planning a build using Ryzen and the micro version of that MOBO, and I'm having a hard time finding some decently speedy ram (ryzen digs its speedy ram) that won't break the bank and that will actually work. I've checked the QVL on the ASRock site, but a lot of the ram I've tried to pick on pcpp isn't on their lists.

Thanks for the help!

BananaDealer 2 points 22 months ago

G.Skill is pretty much the RAM brand to go with if you're building Ryzen-based systems. They have high speeds and low CAS and overclock well. All good things that play nicely with Ryzen.

shreder75 1 point 22 months ago

Thanks for the info! I'll stick to my original memory, then.

Alani97 1 point 22 months ago

How good is it for fps games such as PUBG :)

riftking 1 point 22 months ago

At 1080p? Very good. Will always run above 60fps at highest settings with a 1070. Probably well above 100fps too

shawnzamperini 1 point 22 months ago

Should I get the black version of the case since it has better airflow? I'd like to keep the computer quiet, but I'm not sure how much worse the white case is. Is it really that bad?

80-wattHamster 1 Build 1 point 22 months ago

The overall airflow is probably fairly similar; both support the same fan and radiator configuration. The white just draws air through slots rather than the mesh of the black. Either will be more than adequate until you do something really crazy.

Six-by-Nine 1 point 22 months ago

Microcenter is running a sale, if you bundle the Ryzen 1600 with a Mobo you get $50 off. Can someone help me select the best bundle available? http://www.microcenter.com/site/products/amd_bundles.aspx#1600

Ali3nDubst3p 1 Build 1 point 22 months ago

probably a little late but if you are going for bang for your buck i would choose GIGABYTE GA-AB350-Gaming AM4 ATX, (note: not the gaming 3) but if you are willing to spend the extra cash for aesthetics then i would pick up that msi board.

jroc74 1 point 22 months ago

That is an amazing looking case.

Thanks for putting on our radar. Might get me one. The black version.

aggravatedsloth 1 point 22 months ago

How come you say that the mini cards will not cool as effectively or quietly but then put down the Asus Blower one? Blower cards are notorious for being loud and hot. The Gigabyte Windforce OC is only $5 more and would be much quieter and cool more effectively.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 22 months ago

We can easily filter based on length to remove ITX/mini cards. We currently do not have that filtering for reference vs blower GPUs.

Someone0011 2 Builds 1 point 22 months ago

looks great i would recommend this build to almost any one

JBatz 1 point 22 months ago

I know nothing about PC. Trying to learn and build one in the next few months. Will this be capable of handling gta v with mods?

TristanKing 1 point 22 months ago

It would have been plenty capable of running GTA V mods... You aren't going to be running many mods now however.

jenxoff 1 Build 1 point 22 months ago

Haha you could've played mods... but then this happened

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AlvinJames6500 1 point 22 months ago

good

Jvarguez 1 point 22 months ago

i have my pc build can you guys check it out https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YfhfgL

necrodor21 1 point 22 months ago

should wait for msi b350 pro carbon coz significantly different performance and just a bit add up to your budget

necrodor21 1 point 22 months ago

and thats the best b350 mobo you can get at market right now stability and enough port(not rich like x370 but enough to cover average peripherals)

Lewisdoesbuilds 1 point 22 months ago

I'm going to be building my first pc soon and here's the link to the parts-https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Lewisdoesbuilds/saved/4GZMpg

LemonLimeLife 1 point 22 months ago

So I'm kind of new to this so this might be a stupid question but maybe someone could help me out. This build looks good to me and it looks like it has components that I want but is there anything that isn't listed here that I need to complete the build (besides obvious stuff like keyboard and mouse)? Something for cooling perhaps? Or could I simply buy everything listed, build the machine, and have it up and working without problems?

80-wattHamster 1 Build 1 point 22 months ago

Choose KB, mouse, monitor and OS and you'll be off to the races. Add an optical drive to the list if you get your OS on DVD, otherwise USB versions are available.

bobcaticus 1 point 22 months ago

Forgive me for being such a noob, but does anyone have photos of a finished build so i can see where everything goes? Thanks!

80-wattHamster 1 Build 1 point 22 months ago

I recommend visiting PCPP's Youtube channel and watching some of the build videos.

PlatinumCrushed 1 point 22 months ago

Is this a better bang for your buck in comparison to the Great Intel Gaming build?

deathbat6916 1 Build 1 point 22 months ago

absolutely

Zgouda 1 point 22 months ago

Do I need to buy extra fans or do the fans that already come with the case provide enough cooling?

80-wattHamster 1 Build 1 point 22 months ago

An additional intake fan or two in front wouldn't be a terrible idea, but you should be fine with the included fan.

skippyikeoh 1 point 22 months ago

How does this build look overall? I have been studying this stuff for a couple months and have already bought most of it. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/skippyikeoh/saved/qFmjXL I am asking because I used amazon prime for all of it and can still send stuff back and get all my money back.

Joystix 1 point 22 months ago

Roughly how many frames would this get on a steam game like rust or csgo?

onslaughtmx 1 point 22 months ago

Thank you very much for this!

fishepa 1 point 22 months ago

Will this run games well with a 144hz monitor?

snowcrash512 1 point 22 months ago

The white version of that case has a solid front panel that really limits the air intake compared to the black version with its mesh front.

Retrrro 1 point 22 months ago

I am new to gaming in general and I want to have the best gaming experience as possible. But I am also kind of on a budget. Is it possible for anyone to build a pc for me that can run games like rainbow six siege, CS:GO, playerunknown battlegrounds, and H1z1. If so that woud be awsome! I know its a tough job and I wish I could do this on my own. Im not forcing anyone to do this but ut would help a lot! :)

Metacomet10 1 point 22 months ago

If you are in the SF Bay Area I can do it.

MDOR 1 point 22 months ago

Will this build allow me to add additional graphic cards in the event that I try to use it part-time for some crypto-currency mining?

nicoXeneize 1 point 22 months ago

Hello, could anybody help in building this pc? I have never built one from scratch...do I need any power cables other than these parts? I live in Mexico (unluckily...), so if anybody knows how to get these delivered to Mexico I would appreciate...(or where to find them)

LanguidLabor 1 point 22 months ago

I'm looking to create my first build, is this a good setup for a first-time builder?

SeantheProGamer 1 point 22 months ago

There is no cooler included with this though.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 22 months ago

Per the second line of the guide: The R5 1600 includes a stock cooler, so a 3rd-party cooler isn't necessary.

FluenThor 1 point 22 months ago

Does the case come with a default fan? And if there is does it cool down the desktop properly when under a heavy load?

FluenThor 1 point 22 months ago

Also what would be the best fans for the parts? And does it exhaustion and intake? (I have no idea how to spell exhaustion)

Darth_Diplodocus 1 Build 1 point 22 months ago

Hello, I am completely new in this scenario of assembling a gaming PC. This build looks very interesting judging by the comments and some google research. I have a few questions, though, if anyone could be so kind: - Why there is no CPU cooler listed? - Can this build be upgraded when the graphic card becomes obsolete? - How long do you imagine it will take for it to become obsolete?

Thank you very much.

SenorTaco 1 Build 1 point 22 months ago

TL;DR AT THE BOTTOM

Most processors except very high-end ones have a stock CPU cooler, which this particular model (R5 1600) does include. It has a Wraith Spire cooler, which is very similar in performance the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO, a cooler that was famed for its spectacular price/performance.

Most desktop PCs can be upgraded, such as this one, but some PCs are unable to be upgraded; notably 99% of laptops and some pre-built PCs (made by companies such as HP or Dell, for example) lack the ability to be upgraded or are gated by certain power restrictions on the motherboard to certain parts of the motherboard, which is often a wattage gate of 75 watts on the PCI-E slot(s).

Finally, it really depends on what you plan to play, what tolerance you have for lower graphical settings in the future, and other variables such as games utilizing more cores or not in the future. You could expect maxed or near-maxed 1080p gaming (1440p should hold up fine as well) for at least the next two years, and then may gradually perform worse as time goes on. I expect this build will still work fine for the next 6-8 years by my standards, playing things at medium-low by that time with playable frames. Computers and their advancements in technology is currently at an all time low, which means that requirements for games shouldn't cause this computer to age as quickly as one from 2010 to today would age.

Overall, I would say this is a great PC for you to buy, but I would highly suggest holding off until the video card market goes back to normal; a lot of the AMD cards are sold out, which is causing Nvidia to raise their prices. A few months ago, I saw a Zotac GTX 1070 for only $320 on Amazon, which I consider worth the wait for a $90 drop.

TL;DR:

The Ryzen 5 1600 comes with a CPU cooler.

Yes, so long as the video card is PCI-E x16 (should be so long as no major advancements happen); other components can be upgraded, such as the Ryzen 5 1600 to a Ryzen 7 1800X.

I would say about 7 years. For complete obsolescence, 10-12 years would probably be pushing it without the upgrades, which might give it a few more years. This is the first time 4-core processors may be mainstream, so 6-cores may age faster. It is pretty difficult to guess this though, so take it with a grain of salt.

NOTE: I would personally pick up Kingston HyperX, G. Skill Ripjaws V, or Corsair Vengeance LPX over the Patriot RAM. Just brand preference and whatnot. You can choose to buy 16 GB of RAM right now, or buy an 8GB kit right now, and buy another 8GB later down the line (just make sure you get the exact same model). Also, swapping the current SSD they have for a Samsung 850 or 860 SSD would definitely be worth it. If you don't find the loading speeds essential to you for starting up your system and games, feel free to opt out of an SSD and go for the 1TB Seagate Barracuda HDD.

If you have other questions, I'll try to respond as soon as I can.

Darth_Diplodocus 1 Build 1 point 22 months ago

Thank you very much for your comprehensive answer.

Yes, I'm not such a demanding gamer and I have a goo tolerance to medium graphic level settings. Your assessment definitely suits my profile. Again, thank you. It's much appreciated. Thanks!

SenorTaco 1 Build 1 point 22 months ago

No problem, man. Also, don't be afraid to check out open-box items from trusted retailers. If there is a return policy still in play on a used item, go for it. On Amazon a while back, an Asus Strix GTX 1070 was going for $360 new, or $290 open-box like new. Once again, the video card prices have really gone haywire, but looking at those deals are certainly a nice little bonus to have around. Good luck building!

SlenderDerp 1 point 22 months ago

Has anyone done a video with gameplay of games? I want to see how it runs before I buy it. If anyone can tell me how this game will play stuff like Rust, Arma2/3, and others of the same or greater requirements. I want to run them on high/medium settings with 60+ FPS. I figure it can easily get 60 fps with high or Ultra settings.

kylelxl 1 point 22 months ago

Is DDR4-2400 ram ok?? I would like to build a pc like this.

MittensKazotsky 1 point 22 months ago

I have one major problem with this, the RAM speed. The cost of higher speed RAM is not needed, as many people have shown, i.e. LinusTechTips, Paul's Hardware etc., RAM speed isn't as vital as most people think and a stick of 2666 MHz RAM compared to a similar stick of 3000-3200 MHz RAM provides only a 1.57% increase in performance, for about $60(USD), which could be put forward for a R7 1700 or R5 1600x, both compelling upgrades. Do you have any benchmarks to confirm the benefits of having higher speed RAM?

vagabond139 5 Builds 1 point 22 months ago

. The cost of higher speed RAM is not needed, as many people have shown, i.e. LinusTechTips

Linus basically did a GPU benchmark, it in no way tested RAM since he was GPU bound the whole time.

rickys_usf 1 point 22 months ago

Highly interested in this build and to possibly bring the cost down lower, I have an SSD from 4 years ago that's still going strong: https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16820147189 would this work fine as a sub for the one in the build guide?

Also I guess just for future proofing, does the mobo allow for say upgrading to a ryzen 7 1700 like 2 years down the line possibly? Thanks!

Gwlsy 1 point 22 months ago

I recently built my first PC with basically the same specs, Ryzen 7 1700, Asus 1070 Strix, MSI B350 etc. I also got the same ram but it was incompatible and I was not able to get it to post until I bought a Corsair Vengeance LPX kit. After I switched it out everything worked perfectly. Not hating or anything just giving a warning to anyone who's going to be buying these parts. Maybe it was just with Ryzen 7 but I'm thinking it was Ryzen in general.

Nihat 1 Build 1 point 22 months ago

This board comes around $40 if you combine with ryzen 5 from Micro Center. I made the same build to myself last month. Runs good so far.

ShawnBai 1 point 22 months ago

why don't you just add $30 for gpu to get a gtx 1080

zombieassassin187@gmail.com 1 point 22 months ago

Wait, okay, so first thing is I've never built a pc before and this is my first time using this site. secondly the build list that I just made is about $200 more than this and I don't know if it would be considered as high end as this build. is there any way I can put the build list in the comments or the link and somebody look at it and tell me?

ClutchMeister 1 point 22 months ago

Expensive MOBO and ram , while the ram IS 3000 AND THE MOBO IS 2666. Great job. Also : The GPU IS TOTAL **** :) You can get g1 gigabyte 1070 for ~420-440$ :) It was 400$ before 10 days, but welll... I don't know how that build got the front page, but eh. okay . PS : For my build i put A 1700, NOT A 1600 ;) And.. still got it cheaper.. AND .. put a cooler .. AND still got it cheaper ... changed sum things due to their price increacing https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ClutchMeister/saved/bwQrHx

NewVoid 1 Build 1 point 22 months ago

Great build, though if you have slightly bigger budget you should get a better 1070 such as the Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card and the motherboard swapped to a MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard. Also the SSD does not need to be so large, a 256gb will do with a 1tb 7200rpm hard drive like the Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive which is the cheapest quiet one turning out out far cheaper ( Samsung is more expensive anyway for an SSD. I would get this: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Ks8H99/adata-ultimate-su800-256gb-3d-nand-25in-sata-iii-ssd ). Everything else seems cool as long as you factor in the OS (Just get a £9 one online for USB download) and a monitor.

jenxoff 1 Build 1 point 22 months ago

When u decide to treat yourself after your gf dumps u

At least try overclocking, haha, you spent the money for something overclockable and this is a gaming build

CartierOnPC 1 point 22 months ago

Haha this build went up in price by like $80 because of the graphics card spikes

CluelessTecher 1 point 22 months ago

I have a i5 4460 and a r9 290 if i was to get an ryzen 5 1600 how much performance difference would I notice? I know i would have to buy a compatible motherboard + DDR4 Ram. Then I would sell my mobo+ram+cpu in a combo for about $225. So, I would be investing about $100 for the upgrade.

neonfury 1 point 22 months ago

$1150
Doesn't add a $25 212 evo

krilin31 1 point 22 months ago

gpu market and parametric filters are hurting this build hard. use the extra money you SAVE from upgrading to a gtx 1080 to buy another fan if you're that concerned about it being a mini sized card lol

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor $199.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard *MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard $83.98 @ Newegg
Memory *GeIL - EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $114.99 @ Newegg
Storage *ADATA - Ultimate SU800 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $136.69 @ Amazon
Video Card Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Mini Video Card $468.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case Cooler Master - MasterBox 5 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case $57.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply *EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $64.99 @ Newegg
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $1167.61
Mail-in rebates -$40.00
Total $1127.61
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-27 10:07 EDT-0400
BL00DRose 1 point 22 months ago

You can save about ₹1000 by choosing different RAM (Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory)

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 22 months ago

Ryzen scales with higher frequency memory and I wouldn't recommend any lower than 2800.

Payton_vella 1 point 22 months ago

Corsair - H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU CoolerASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 MotherboardCorsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 MemorySamsung - 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State DriveGALAX - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB EX OC SNPR White Video CardCooler Master - MasterBox 5 (White) ATX Mid Tower CaseSeaSonic - G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply(3 x) Silverstone - FN121-P-WL 58.5 CFM 120mm FanAMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor my version

STNLYKM 1 point 22 months ago

First time builder here. Is there a video or tutorial on what to do once the PC is put together? ie. What/how to test if everything is working, installing OS, recommended programs or software to install, etc...

Any recommendations would be appreciated. Thank you.

ranepowel 1 point 22 months ago

https://youtu.be/LbpqkiaO7q4

This is a solid video for getting started once your PC is assembled.

STNLYKM 1 point 21 months ago

Thank you very much.

philip1 1 point 22 months ago

how does this compare to mac pro 2013

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philip1 1 point 22 months ago

how does this compare to mac pro?

AmatisP1me 1 Build 0 points 22 months ago

I would not put a SeaSonic PSU in this build. Get something from the builder series from Corsair instead. A TAD more expensive, but it is way more reliable and wont potentially fry your system.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 2 points 22 months ago

Seasonic are consistently some of the highest rated power supplies on the market. I would definitely not downgrade to a builder series unit.

AmatisP1me 1 Build 1 point 22 months ago

Fair fair fair. Like the build! Good price.

BananaDealer -1 points 22 months ago

That's a really nice, kinda bare-bones, "this will get you going" build, you have my +1.

Some personal recommendations:

First off, you can change the B350 mobo to the X370 of the same model (Asus PRIME X370-PRO). In which case, you'll be able to move to an X-series CPU later on easily and fully benefit from the added functionality (X370 boards offer better overclockability of both CPUs and RAM, and B350 ones don't really let you benefit much from Ryzen's X-series processors). It's only £57 more for the X370 board, putting the build just over the £1000 mark, which I think is more than worth it without breaking the donkey's back.

I would also suggest changing the WD SSD, since they're not really all that great in terms of quality. Sure, it's practically the same Samsung memory modules, which every manufacturer uses, but still - lower build quality altogether. I'd recommend going for either a 480GB SanDisk SSD Plus, or Ultra II, or a 500GB Samsung 850 EVO. Again, neither of the three will stretch the budget too much over the £1000 mark, with them going for an additional£4.05, £14.05 or £7.26, respectively, over the parametric WD SSD. Well worth it for the added piece of mind of the better build (also, generally higher read/write and such).

Another thing I'd recommend is not having all your trashy (small, frequently erased/moved) data on an SSD, since that will lessen its' lifespan quite rapidly. I would suggest going with either a 128GB Intel 600p-Series m.2 SSD, for your OS, Games and important programs, and a 1TB WD Caviar Blue for your general bulk data (files, music, movies/videos, pictures, all those small things). This would actually save you £15.92, and give you a faster boot time and general OS/App response time, while also giving you more storage. I know the 600p isn't really the best m.2 drive available, but it's cheap and effective. If you want something with better build quality, go get a 250GB 960 EVO, though that would make all your overall storage cost £32.94 higher (with the 960 EVO and WD Caviar Blue). But again, it's not all that much over and it's well worth it, in my opinion.

Now, with the X370 board, you'll be able to oc that ram to ~3000 (afaik B350 boards don't really do that well when overclocking RAM), you'll be free to upgrade to an X-model CPU when you feel like it (instead of needing a whole new mobo to fully benefit from the more capable CPU), and the 600p m.2 drive will give you a post/boot time of just a couple of seconds, you'll have more, and more reliable, storage with the 1TB WD (and the 128GB on the m.2). All at only £41.08 more than the original list, totalling £1024.94 - hardly enough to not warrant it!

Tear1 2 points 22 months ago

Can you explain to me how the X-Processors benefit from a x370 board? Overclocking will be better on what ever CPU you put into it, and arguably the overclocking is more important on the non-X SKUs. Are there any features that require x370? AFAIK it is only SLI that needs the higher end boards.

BananaDealer 1 point 22 months ago

X370 boards are built with overclocking in mind, having more power phases than B350 ones. A B350 is still a good, "gaming" motherboard, but it's more of a basic, cut-down chipset. They also don't do as well with overclocking RAM to the higher speeds Ryzen likes to play with. Sure, you'll still get to 2800 well enough, and probably close to 2900, but for anything over 3000 you'll need to look at X-boards. Sure, you can technically get the same CPU speeds on a B350 as on an X370 board (high-end ones at least), but the X370-based one will always be more stable and easier to achieve...

rickyrangel85 1 point 22 months ago

Thank you for the extra info!

Darth_Diplodocus 1 Build 1 point 22 months ago

"I would suggest going with either a 128GB Intel 600p-Series m.2 SSD, for your OS, Games and important programs"

I don't think you were realistic there. Most games today take around 40 to 60GB. Some take much more.

BananaDealer 2 points 22 months ago

Major games, yes. And the m.2 SSD would be for the games they play most or require/benefit faster loading. Still plenty of space on the HDD for other games...

drewramos01 -1 points 22 months ago

If we're talking about the best bang for buck, the RX 580 would've been a more reasonable gpu. And with a 550W psu for a 1070? It's risky to use a low wattage psu on such a power hungry gpu. Just my thoughts.

Edit: You might want to get a fully modular psu if you're still new to building pcs as it WILL make cable management a breeze, otherwise you can get the semi-modular(a little bit harder to do cable management on, but the price tag will make you reconsider).

80-wattHamster 1 Build 2 points 22 months ago

This isn't a bang-for-buck build. Also, the 580 at this particular moment is suffering from high prices and low availability due to a cryptocurrency bubble. Miners are buying them all up. And 550W is plenty. The PCPP power estimate is 306W, and that's largely based on power envelope estimates provided by manufacturers. The true average power draw will be even lower, 250W or less in all likelihood. BTW, all PSUs in their filter selection are semi- or fully-modular.

drewramos01 3 points 22 months ago

I guess I have to agree. My mistake.

riftking 2 points 22 months ago

Yeah the 1070 is powerful but efficient. Not really at all 'such a power hungry gpu'. :)

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vagabond139 5 Builds 1 point 22 months ago

And with a 550W psu for a 1070? It's risky to use a low wattage psu on such a power hungry gpu.

Wat. You could run two 1070's off of it.

MohamedZarif -3 points 22 months ago

pretty gud but i dont recommend the 1070 cuz its too powerful its can get more then 2hundred of frames in most games but considering most people have 60hz panel and 1440p @ 120hz panels cost at least 350 bucks better stick with the 1060 3gb

vagabond139 5 Builds 2 points 22 months ago

i dont recommend the 1070 cuz its too powerful its can get more then 2hundred of frames in most games

No it can't.

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7gamer88 -3 points 22 months ago

PSU 550W will work? i think at least it need 600W on gtx and 700W on ati

TristanKing 2 points 22 months ago

550W is more than enough for even an overclocked GTX 1070.

MuFa5a -4 points 22 months ago

no CPU cooler? REEEE this men REEEEEEEEEEEEE.........................

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 4 points 22 months ago

The stock cooler is more than good enough for light OC.

MuFa5a -1 points 22 months ago

i don't like coolers that dissipated/dispersed heat inside the case, something like the Noctua - NH-U12S or water Corsair - HXX is better.

viktro78 3 points 22 months ago

The ryzen 5 1600 comes with a decent stock cooler.

jdwii -5 points 22 months ago

I'd drop the SSD and get a HD for 50$. Put the extra 100$ into a better board+ram+CPU cooler that can actually support 3200+ memory. Drop the PSU for something like a EVGA 500 watt as its plenty and would save even more money.

Personally not a fan of the case when it comes to looks but it works i guess.

WEBMASTERS-TEAM -5 points 22 months ago

...hello guys and girls ... i am not intending to change your opinions,but i consider that a better motherboard,and generally a system that can be more future proof and further upgrade-able would be more appropriate,according to ryzen cpu s specs,like the one i am providing you into this link = https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FcLdTH ... even the cpu cooler can be further upgraded with the addition of 3 more extra fans all-around on it ... keep in mind that the ram i suggest may not be 3200mhz,but remember that VR-ready cards must also find a system with vast amount of ram,the GPUs ram ok is a good start,but this is not always enough for highly demanding VR applications,the speed of (1 kit) 2666mhz can be stable even in future-adding extra same (3 more)kits ... anyway,who wants to spent on Nvidia GPUs,(OK i understand they are superb on their specs),when someone can crossfire 2 RX 480s or 2 RX 580s in the future,and outbust as joke any single 1070 or 1080 Nvidia? in the mean time,a single RX 580 8GB can stand extremmely well in 1080p,and medium to high to 4K resolution ... of course,i consider adding a m2-2280 ssd like the one i suggest is one way option,according to it s specs,and not only for boot time ... the whole idea of my suggested setup,was to put parts that they are best in specs-price range combo,even after future upgrading ..even PSU may not be fully modular,but for 24/7 operation is PERFECT,without exhausting or overheating even a bit,the case-ready 5 fans may not be the best,but they are enough for keeping this starting build more than well ...

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WEBMASTERS-TEAM -4 points 22 months ago

I dont want to seem impolite Mr Shplody,but in our difficult times we live,every penny matters ... so,if most people can make something same or better with less money-in our case is a PC setup-is surely worth mentioning ! ... now,according to GPUs comparison,too many sites also shows the scenario results for rx 480 crossfire vs single gtx 1070 or single gtx 1080,and the results are astonishing,so 2 rx 580s with better specs you can imagine ... shows in certain games better scoring,in other games almost same performance,for less total money... so,where is the idiocy ? have u even tried to read some benchmarkings? independently from that,why someone has to pay "Nvidia tax" or "Intel tax",for about same performance in certain setups? except IF you are a rich fan boy of intel and nvidia,having a 6950k processor,with a 1080ti or worse 2 of them in sli,and you want to make impression with your scoring and the extravaganza rig ... the man who represents a team and talking to you right now,knows more than well that most people don`t want to pay extra money for same performance or slightly better at worst,and THEY RESPECT THEIR BUDGET,TAKE MORE (OR THE SAME,OR SLIGHTLY LESSER FOR YOU ESPECIALLY) FOR LESS IS A PHILOSOPHY AND WAY OF LIFE ... so,as i already mentioned this is a starting build,why must start necessarily someone with a too expensive gtx 1080,and not with a much cheaper rx 580,and slowly-slowly upgrade this build? ... u know,not everyone can buy too expensive things at once,or collect so easy so much money ...

vagabond139 5 Builds 3 points 22 months ago

Paragraphs please, this is literally unreadable.

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ErtFlat -6 points 23 months ago

why so much Ryzen, why not Intel build? And also maybe do hybrid build, office and gaming.

Kehrenok4u2 7 points 23 months ago

Bang for the buck, Ryzen has better price to performance on a budget across all it's chips. Intel excels in some areas but most consumers dont want the 'intel tax'

WEBMASTERS-TEAM 1 point 22 months ago

yeap,maybe AMD does not created a many-lanes cpu,to hit at once Intel,but for the money someone can save for not buying-for example- a 6900K,can do other things,such as buying second GPU,paying a bill,etc etc ...

Tear1 0 points 22 months ago

Well their Threadripper CPUs are going to to exactly that. And offer more PCIe lanes than their Intel counterparts.

duy0699cat 4 points 23 months ago
ErtFlat -8 points 23 months ago

But is r5 actually better overtime, for me, AMD is trash and breaks, not to offend anyone.

puzzlerecovery 5 points 23 months ago

... this comment does not make sense.

duy0699cat 1 point 23 months ago

Well, i believe any cpu can last for 4-5 year least unless you dont know how to oc or run it 24/7 fulload. As for something good for over time, think about some HEDT with liquid-cooled which can be used for 10 years without worry. The lifespan of cpus can be up to 20-30 years but it depend much on how you use it, the psu, mobo, cooler etc..

ErtFlat 1 point 23 months ago

yes that is very true.

vagabond139 5 Builds 1 point 22 months ago

That isn't how it works...

ErtFlat 1 point 22 months ago

how wut works

vagabond139 5 Builds 1 point 22 months ago

Your very biased idea of AMD. CPU's just don't break, provided no user error they are something that will work basically forever or defective out of the box. Also calling AMD CPU's is just being biased. You are calling a company that helped even helped Intel get to where they are at now, dominated them at one point, and is now seriously competing against them trash.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 2 points 23 months ago

Several of the build guides have options for both intel and ryzen.

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pegotico 2 Builds 1 point 22 months ago

Did you bother to check the guides?

6 out of 10 are intel builds..

https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/

I respect that you don't like AMD but stop talk trashing it. This is not the place for that..

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manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 22 months ago

Keep it polite or don't comment on this site.

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MrDez 1 point 22 months ago

There already is one for Intel, a lot of people asked for Ryzen so here it is. Look at he other guides, it's around $900

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manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 22 months ago

FYI you need to use ' instead of `

Otherwise the comment will get weird formatting.

WEBMASTERS-TEAM 1 point 22 months ago

ok i understood .. many thanks for that,i was also curious about the text formatting,even if i cant define how to show the correct symbol,my keyboard doesn`t show it directly,its mainly for Greek ... sorry for my ignorance in that = what means "FYI" ?

WEBMASTERS-TEAM 1 point 22 months ago

anyway i deleted the previous text,and re-uploaded it slightly improved ... if i find a way how to show the correct symbol,i will further improve it ... thanks again

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 22 months ago

For Your Information

WEBMASTERS-TEAM 1 point 22 months ago

AH,OK,THANKS !

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Reason:
Note: Wattages are estimates only. Actual power draw may differ from listed values.
Component Estimated Wattage
AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor 8W - 65W
GeIL - EVO SPEAR 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory 14W
Team - MS30 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive 2W - 10W
MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB Video Card 37W - 150W
Total: 239W