Amazing cable management, great build. But I'm kind of in the same boat, I looked at the GPU and it seems like it's a lame duck comparatively. This looks like a rig designed to be a somewhat high-end workstation for compute/CAD/encoding/production. I don't want to denigrate the OPs work because it's certainly a beauty. I'm just confused.
It's not a shellshocker, it's on the "Flash" section of their website.
Was the cooler for BLCK overclock? Does anyone know if MSI's H170 gaming ATX can do BCLK overclock? So many part choices here made me confused.
You're never going to notice a gaming performance improvement, especially with such a minimal difference in frequency. If you want it for aesthetics just go for it.
Looks like you picked a colour themed build and a case with no window so... maybe you should consider an overhaul or a different case?
You mean selling defective quad cores as tri-cores now a days?
This and I'd be really careful even with 750ti. Some less thought out premades barely have 50-75watts overhead and adding 60watts will stress the PSU to an early grave.
Could be a bad stick or a bad slot, I'd try booting it one stick in one slot at a time.
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That's just a DOA though. Sorry to hear it. Luck of the draw I guess.
Beautiful, simple, and clean; I love it. Also the PSU on the Inwin cases are decent if your max load is somewhere around 75% of the advertised max load but that price for Seasonic reassurance I guess is wonderful too.
A couple things might be happening here. If the amount of memory from task manager does match the amount used then you might have a large amount of your memory being used by your operating system to cache frequently used programs/files. This is totally normal to see your idle memory coasting around 30-40% without usage (AFAIK). Alternatively you could have some memory leak when you launch specific program. A fairly high idle is normal and firefox uses a boatload of memory. I'd recommend reinstalling/repairing the OS if the problem persists with every game. Ideally you should be able to track where the memory gets allocated in task manager.
It looks like the part numbers are slightly different corresponding to 1.5V and 1.35V which shouldn't make a difference if you're not overclocking your RAM.
EDIT: Model number with C (second link) is 1.35V
I don't have the links right now but I believe these are nearly equivalent GPUs. GTX will outperform on lower pixel resolutions 720p/1080p and then you will see the performance drop where as the R9 285 will performance will be slightly lower at 1080p and perform better than the GTX 960 at higher pixel resolutions (Clarification, both will see FPS drops at higher pixel resolution but AMD tends to see less performance decline than NVIDIA). Both should work for your needs, if you plan to go higher pixel res in the future go r9 285, newer games at 1080p will favor the gtx 960.
Got rejected last time and I didn't mean to suggest anything negative, sorry mate.
I still think we should get a stickied Memory FAQs post. Looks like the same questions a year later have jaded you.
Sorry, I should have specified, I was referring to the 50USD ones. The latter part was because the OP had stated he has little experience or desire to get a cherry mx keyboard.
1) Mid Tower, maybe Mini Tower for single gpu + uATX motherboard, unless you really want a big tower then there's no issue.
2) A GTX 980 4GB should run GTA 5 on max settings fine as this is mostly GPU intensive. CPU is probably fine, either way this computer should last you a very long time.
I think a lot of them only have mechanical switches on WASD, space bar, and the arrows. Monoprice mechanicals are also sometimes worthwhile. Although it sounds like OP just needs a keyboard that maybe has anti-ghosting since key response isn't important.
Shouldn't require any knob cranking, flip switching or dialing. The real question is would you even notice if they were running in dual channel or not.
I'm assuming this is for gaming. Is there a reason you want an enormous full tower? If you're going to be using a single GPU you could make this build quite a bit smaller. SLI can fit with comfortable temps in a mid tower just fine. Also are you sure you want to overclock? In Intel's Devil Canyon really didn't show that much improvement. I'm uncertain whether you're better with an unlocked i5 or a locked i7 moving forward since the price with cooling is pretty similar.
Before you go making any drastic changes you might want to make sure of which resource is actually struggling. Those two tasks utilize almost entirely separate resources. RAM is the most likely suspect as 6GB is the minimum required but you may also be having network issues. You should be able to check your resource usage in your task manager and see if those two things running are the issue. If your RAM and CPU usage seem normal then I would move on to your net connection and browser. Mozilla, Chrome, Opera, IE, etc. all have different manners of handling Twitch this can change by build update. It's still in your best interest to get your warranty on the RAM though and get that started as soon as possible.
There are always deals, but very rarely are these deals actually worth your time. In store deals that pop from time to time at Microcenter and Fry's tend the be the rare times you'll save more than 5-10USD on an item. Occasionally kits from Tigerdirect and Newegg will save you 50-100USD but the case and power supply are normally absolute garbage.
Go with an i3 and then put the saved money into the GPU.
No idea why someone down voted this. It's a fair assessment. The i3-4160/70 are beasts in dollar/performance. They can also handle most AAA titles just fine given a decent GPU. That said you can sometimes get an i5 locked for under 150 if you have Staples pricematch a Microcenter/Fry's deal and then use their 15% off coupon.
With a little background information about what kind of performance gain you're trying to see I'm sure we could give better advice. Gaming and similar single core tasks I think you'd find even an i3 would give you performance boost over your current setup. Its worth noting that you may find performance per dollar gain on most tasks is marginal for overclocking.
It really depends if you want to shave those crucial milliseconds off your workload times. This can be critical in business systems where the computers are acquired for continuous use with a single application. In all honesty, what you're doing sounds like hobby stuff so you'd be fine with an i5 or non-X99 i7. But in the end it's your computer and how you allocate resources is your prerogative.
There's no logical upgrade to another FX, you'd have to move to an i5 line or better.
I would see if you can find another set this will run the same XMP, even dropping from 1200MHz to 1066MHz should boost your performance if you add another 4GB. Frequency related performance improvement is marginal at best.
Occasionally Costco will have OSes at something like 3 for the price of one. If you know anyone in college they can probably get you a license for any modern OS (I get 1 of each license for all windows OSes 7-8.1 + server every year). Last resort you can normally find a serial from someone on reddit (I think most of the time these are legit but don't buy if it's enterprise) for dirt cheap.
Should be a 3 year limited warranty. You'd have to pay for shipping. If that's definitively what you will be charged you're better off waiting for the z87s or 97s to go on sale and buy a new one if that one fails more. I'd say just leave it at this point.
Agreed, dual channel bandwidth probably won't matter but I'd say RMA the mobo, sounds like you got a lemon.
Overall it looks nice. Fairly clean cabling, generally good parts, nothing sticks out like a sore thumb. I would say the cost weighting of the build is shoddy, but there's nothing you can do about that if you received some parts as gifts. Then again if you didn't state the purpose of the build (assumed gaming) then it's impossible to determine quality.
This is a little CPU heavy for a gaming build. Something like this is fairly reasonable for good 1080p gaming. Maybe an upgrade to an i5 if you're playing a CPU heavier game like SC2. Should leave you room to actually buy the monitor too for 700 USD.
Don't know why you got down voted. You're right, for intel it's flat across the board for memory frequency and iGPU performance.
Admittedly I'm not sure about the newest refresh of intel iGPUs but I doubt much has changed. High frequency ram is totally application/program specific.
By all means, if you can find demonstrations that show high frequency or dual channel improvements in anything other than synthetic benchmarks (AIDA64 is synthetic) link them. The DDR2 and DDR4 comparison links were just to reinforce the point that over 12 years RAM hasn't really seen much improvement.
(Last year wasn't that long ago)
You mean heat dissipation? Unless you're running high frequency ram (which hasn't really shown much benefit except in APUs) I believe most of the time you don't actually need the heat spreaders. As far as one stick versus two it literally doesn't matter unless you're working with a program specifically designed to utilize the feature (almost none?).
TLDR: RAM is RAM is RAM, just make sure it works with the mobo (pins, XMP, height of heat spreaders, etc). 8GB for gaming, 16GB for productivity.
LinusTT DRR4 vs DDR3:
DDR2 vs DDR3:
1x8GB vs 2x8GB:
Check the layout of your motherboard for the fan connects. The CPU fan goes through the motherboard normally but the rest may or may not go through the PSU and daisy chain. If your fans are all 3pin you can get a splitter or a converter.
The biggest thing people forget is that if you don't live near a Microcenter or Frys you can have Staples price match.
As far as sales deals go you just need to know market value for the items. The best prices are never during cyber monday/black friday but if you don't want to part your computer together over months/ a year then it's not a horrible time.
RAM is one of those things where there are so few contributing factors and so little disparity that you're mostly paying for aesthetics. The rare cases where it matters being APUs and program specific high frequency usage.
It's all about the XMP. That said, unless you have an application which demands higher frequency RAM, utilizes more than 8GB (which some professional A/V programmes do), or want a ram disk it's just a waste of money.
I don't mean to say all fields mandatory but just a few which specify the wants of the OP and his/her means to attain it. I read a few of the posts here then just stopped because they basically read "0mg bild bf4 suprmachine 4 me."
Is it possible to make a template for topic creation in this sub-forum with mandatory fields plus an other section?
All the information included here helps people make decisions about parts and pricing, especially location. A one hour drive to Microcenter could save you hundreds.
while it is possible they emit a small tail into the UV it would be extremely unethical to sell these without clear warning that it can and likely will cause retina damage and skin cancer without a proper OD window within which they will be confined.
120USD after MIR at time of post. Free 150USD in game credits ∴ it costs negative 30 dollars. Such deal.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127782. Get your MSI 750 TF ed. for negative 40 dollars. Such deal.
The i3-4100U is a mobile processor with ultra low voltage (lower clocks. I5-4200U is the upgraded version. I've not really found ULVs to be particularly great for anything other than improved battery life. They suffer greatly in the iGPU department.
ATTN: Staples will also price match Fry's Electronics 99USD i5-4430