Electronic Engineer currently working as an Android Apps Developer.
Old School RPGs
PC Building, Architecture, Optimisation
Builds I like:
Keeping this handy links here
How to use markup to show a build in the forums https://imgur.com/a/WfWCG
How to use parametric filters https://imgur.com/a/lySWc
Also keeping this here:
Let me rely on my good ol' buddy vagabond139 here for a bit:
Myth: Seagate is unreliable. That is based on a fairly old study, and these are used OEM drives so they do not represent your average consumer drives, and this took place in an enterprise environment. Current Backblaze data suggest Seagate is right behind Hitachi for reliability.
Also, the old corsair cxm psus are rather bad, the new ones (450w, 550w, 650w) are good.
Welcome to the Learning Corner! Please do enjoy your stay =)
I remember my first time trying to gather information about how to build a PC. I researched some guides, some parts, and even though I felt I was not ready, I went with it anyway and thoroughly enjoyed the experience. Looking back, there are some things I should have done differently (I cut myself twice trying to get that damn 212 evo down!) and some parts I should have changed (I thought having more wattage would somehow help with cutouts xD). After lots of lurking, lots of reading and some active suggestions, I was inspired to compile some sort of entry guide for all newcomers, please use it as you will.
Learning is not as easy as some would have you believe, so I congratulate your decision on improving thyself by consciously diving in the sea of knowledge. Pace yourself, do not try to power through this process in one day! That said, everyone learns differently, but I can promise you this: If you open all the links, and examine everything in a calm, consistent manner, you will know most of what there is to know about PC building. You will be ready.
Google everything. Seriously. Use the power of more than one million servers wisely.
Search the specifications of your motherboard and find its socket, its form factor, if it includes WIFI, how many dimm slots does it have, the memory speeds it supports, how many expansion slots it provides, what generation, what size, how many sata ports it has and of what kind, how many usbs and of what kind, if it has usb headers, how many fan headers it has and if it supports sli/crossfire.
Search the specifications of your case and find what motherboard form factors it supports, its dimensions, its weight, the materials used in its construction, if it has drive bays, if it has cable management, clearance on gpu and on cpu cooler, radiator support, how many fans can it house and what size, and how many fans it has.
You should be able to recite this specs with your eyes closed!
Always bear in mind the purpose of your build, what will it do, what it will need, what you want from it and how much you can afford.
And do take a look at featured builds!
Let's talk a bit about the PC my father got.
Past Me: Everything has good reviews, so everything is awesome!
Not necessarily true. Having good reviews is definitely good, however, the use cases of the reviewers might be different than yours. As stated before, have in mind the purpose of your build, your needs and your budget.
Past Me: More wattage helps! It is obvious! And if a storm cuts power, this will give you a bit of time to save progress!
A PSU is NOT an UPS. I know the naming does not quite help here, but these are different parts. The job of a PSU is to convert analog current to direct current and supply the other components in your PC. An UPS provides near-instantaneous protection from input power interruptions by supplying energy stored in batteries. Also, have in mind the typical load of your system when choosing a PSU, since they have different efficiencies at different loads (usually, peak efficiency at half load). In this regard, having more wattage does help a bit, yet, a PSU of a higher wattage also cost more, many times enough to offset the minimal gains of having a slight efficiency advantage.
Past Me: I have heard of Corsair before! This case is surely the best!
Broaden your horizon. It is not a bad case, but it is also not the best for this build. A more quiet solution, like the Fractal Design Define R4 would have been more beneficial for my father, since he has his PC right next to him.
Past Me: 4 GB is more than 2 GB, so it is better!
No. Just No. My father plays non demanding games, like Path of Exile, Baldur's Gate, Diablo 2 and Free Cell. Taking this into account, a better option would have been a GTX 950, since they just do not use that much vram at 1080p.
Past Me: 82.9 is a high number, so this is the best cooler ever!
False. Take a look at how noisy and huge this thing is, and it is painful to install (blood was shed that day). There are better options, like a Cryorig H7.
Past Me: Overclocking is dope! Unlimited power!
No. Well, yeah, but not always. My father does not even know what that is, he has no use for overclocking parts, so this, sadly, is a waste of money. The locked i5 cpu would have been a better choice, and regular 8GB of 1600 RAM is more than enough.
Past Me: Hey! My build is good! Haters gonna hate!
It is not what was needed. Consider this:
|CPU||Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor||$209.99 @ SuperBiiz|
|CPU Cooler||CRYORIG M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler||$19.99 @ Newegg|
|Motherboard||ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard||$69.99 @ SuperBiiz|
|Memory||Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory||$32.38 @ OutletPC|
|Storage||Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive||$156.24 @ Amazon|
|Video Card||Gigabyte GeForce GTX 950 2GB OC Edition Video Card||$123.98 @ Newegg|
|Case||Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case||$89.99 @ Newegg|
|Power Supply||SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply||$64.99 @ B&H|
|Optical Drive||LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer||$48.88 @ OutletPC|
|Wireless Network Adapter||Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter||$29.89 @ OutletPC|
|Monitor||BenQ GL2460HM 24.0" 60Hz Monitor||$139.00 @ B&H|
|Keyboard||Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse||$40.03 @ Amazon|
|Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts|
|Total (before mail-in rebates)||$1045.35|
|Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-23 12:31 EDT-0400|
A more sensible approach will lead us to a better build.
(ordered from most affordable to least affordable, by no means this is a "best" list, just my opinion)
|Intel Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor||Dual core with strong single thread performance, using the same chipset as skylake, not so good without a gpu|
|AMD A10-7860k 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor||Great APU that can be overclocked|
|Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor||Has hyperthread, good for light gaming|
|Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor||No hyperthread, but good for multi core task, good for gaming|
|Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor||Overclockable good performance|
|Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor||Xeon using socket LGA1150, needs gpu, can not oc, has hyperthread, supports ecc ram|
|Intel Xeon E3-1230 V5 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor||Xeon using socket LGA1151, needs gpu, can not oc, has hyperthread, supports ecc ram|
|Intel Xeon E5-1620 V3 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor||Xeon using socket LGA2011-3, needs gpu and cooler, can not oc, has hyperthread, supports ecc ram|
|Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor||For a bit more performance and multitasking, overkill for games|
|Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor||For content creators that need more cores, overclockable|
|Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler||Better than stock|
|CRYORIG M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler||A bit more performance, good for small cases|
|CRYORIG C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler||Good for really small cases|
|CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler||Good clearance|
|Scythe Kotetsu 79.0 CFM CPU Cooler||Good performance|
|Phanteks PH-TC12DX_BK 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler||Stylish|
|Noctua NH-U9S 46.4 CFM CPU Cooler||Also good for small cases|
|CRYORIG H5 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler||Good for large cases *|
|Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler||Also good for large cases *|
|Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler||For really big cases *|
|be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler||For really big cases *|
* Be mindful about clearance with these big coolers
|Enermax Liqmax II 240 96.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler||Not so expensive and good 240 radiator|
|Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler||Also good 240 radiator, has corsair link|
|NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler||Good 280 radiator|
|ASRock FM2A88M PRO3+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard||Overclocable AMD FM2+|
|Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard||Budget friendly for skylake, no oc|
|ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard||Good no oc LGA1150|
|Gigabyte GA-H170-GAMING 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard||Good no oc skylake|
|MSI Z170-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard||Overclockable skylake|
|Gigabyte GA-Z170N-Gaming 5 Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard||Overclockable mini skylake with wifi|
|Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard||Good oc skylake|
|ASRock X99 Extreme4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard||Good LGA2011-3 motherboard, supports ecc ram and oc|
|G.Skill Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory||When you intend to buy more ram later|
|G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory||When you do not intend to buy more ram later|
|G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory||Fast DDR3 ram|
|Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory||Good DDR3 ram|
|G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory||Good 2133 ram|
|Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory||Good low profile ram at good speed|
|G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory||Good for oc|
|Kingston 32GB (4 x 8GB) Registered DDR4-2133 Memory||Good ecc ram|
|A-Data Premier SP550 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive||Great budget ssd, and do not believe windows when it says it just needs 20 GB, I have seen it eat a 64 GB ssd and claim it needs more space to update|
|OCZ TRION 150 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive||Also good|
|Corsair Force LE 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive||Also good|
|Mushkin ECO3 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive||Also good|
|Kingston Savage 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive||Good compromise on speed, reliability and budget|
|Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive||High speed, not many people should need the pro version, you could also grab a bigger or smaller ssd of this and the ones stated before depending on your needs|
|Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive||Good for system drive|
|Toshiba P300 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive||Also good|
|Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive||Good for secondary drive|
|Hitachi Ultrastar 7K3000 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive||Also good|
|EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Superclocked Video Card||Great budget gpu|
|PowerColor Radeon RX 460 2GB Red Dragon Video Card||Another budget option, bit stronger|
|XFX Radeon R9 380 2GB Double Dissipation Video Card||Good for 1080p|
|EVGA GeForce GTX 960 4GB ACX 2.0+ Video Card||Also good for 1080p|
|XFX Radeon RX 470 4GB HS Triple X Video Card||Great for 1080p|
|EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB GAMING Video Card||Same, a bit stronger|
|Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini ITX OC Video Card||Great for 1440p|
(when looking at add in board partners gpus, research cooling)
|Zalman ZM-T1 PLUS MicroATX Mini Tower Case||Budget friendly|
|Deepcool TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case||Good case, has 2 fans|
|Deepcool DUKASE V2 ATX Mid Tower Case||Good case, radiator support, 1 fan|
|Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case||Good micro case|
|DIYPC Silence-BK ATX Mid Tower Case||Good mid case, discrete, quiet|
|Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case||Good mid case, quiet, led, has no 5.25" bays|
|Fractal Design Define S w/Window ATX Mid Tower Case||Great airflow and cooling options, has no 5.25" bays|
|Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case||Noob friendly|
|NZXT H440 (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case||Great case, comes with 4 fans, has no 5.25" bays|
|Corsair 380T Mini ITX Tower Case||Good for moving it around, lan parties, expensive, has no 5.25" bays|
|SeaSonic S12II 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply||Affordable and reliable, non modular|
|SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply||Affordable and reliable, fully modular|
|SeaSonic 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply||Good semi modular *|
|EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply||Same *|
|EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply||Good fully modular *|
|Corsair CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply||Good semi modular *|
|Thermaltake 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply||Same *|
|XFX XTR 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply||Good fully modular *|
|Rosewill 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply||Good semi modular *|
|Antec 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply||Good fully modular *|
|Silverstone 500W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply||Same *|
|FSP Group Hydro G 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply||Same *|
|Corsair RMx 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply||Same *|
* You can choose any wattage from this psus
|Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer||No blueray|
|LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer||Blueray|
|Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit||OEM|
|Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit||Not OEM, almost no one needs windows pro|
|BenQ GL2460HM 24.0" 60Hz Monitor||Good 1080p|
|Asus MX279H 27.0" Monitor||IPS 1080p|
|Asus VG248QE 24.0" 144Hz Monitor||High refresh 1080p|
|Asus PB278Q 27.0" 60Hz Monitor||IPS 1440p|
|Dell U3415W 34.0" 60Hz Monitor||IPS 21:9 1440p|
|Acer XB271HU bmiprz 27.0" 165Hz Monitor||High refresh IPS 1440p with g-sync|
|BenQ BL3201PH 32.0" 60Hz Monitor||IPS 2160p|
|Rosewill RNX-N250PCe PCI-Express x1 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter||Budget friendly|
|Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter||Has bluetooth|
|Asus PCE-AC56 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter||2.4 and 5 GHz|
|Asus Xonar Essence STX 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card||If you really need a soundboard|
|Logitech K100 Wired Slim Keyboard||Budget friendly|
|Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse||Good enough|
|Redragon Karura K502 Wired Gaming Keyboard||Has more colours, wrist rest|
|Logitech MK520 Wireless Ergonomic Keyboard w/Laser Mouse||Wireless|
|Thermaltake POSEIDON ZX Wired Standard Keyboard||Kailh Blue|
|G.Skill Ripjaws KM780 MX Wired Gaming Keyboard||Cherry MX Brown|
|Corsair STRAFE RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard||Cherry MX Red|
|Corsair KATAR Wired Optical Mouse||Good, no side buttons|
|SteelSeries Sensei RAW Wired Laser Mouse||Good, side buttons|
|Mionix Castor Wired Optical Mouse||Good comfort|
|Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse||Lots of options|
|Logitech G430 7.1 Channel Headset||Good headset|
|Sennheiser HD 558 Headphones||Good quality|
|Logitech Z523 40W 2.1ch Speakers||Good|
|Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 120W 2.1ch Speakers||Better, but consumes lots of power|
|Logitech Z906 500W 5.1ch Speakers||High fidelity|
|Cooler Master Megaflow 110.0 CFM 200mm Fan||Good 200mm|
|Corsair CO-9050017-WLED 66.4 CFM 140mm Fan||Has LED|
|Noctua NF-F12 industrialPPC-2000 PWM 71.7 CFM 120mm Fan||Strong 120mm|
|Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition (2-Pack) 62.7 CFM 120mm Fans||Good 120mm pair|
|Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-2000 PWM 107.4 CFM 140mm Fan||Strong 140mm|
|NZXT SENTRY 3 Fan Controller||Fancy|
|NZXT Sentry Mix 2 Fan Controller||Not so fancy|
|ARCTIC MX4 4g Thermal Paste||Good|
|Noctua NT-H1 3.5g Thermal Paste||Also good|
|SilverStone Technology All Black Sleeved 1-to-2 Sleeved PWM Fan Splitter Cable||When you need to power 2 fans from one header|
|SilverStone PWM Fan Hub System Cables, Black (CPF04)||Fan hub with pwm, power from psu|
|Bitfenix Alchemy 2.0||Magnetic LED strips|
|NZXT Hue+||LED controller|
|Logitech HD Pro Webcam C920||Good webcam|
|TP-LINK Archer C7 AC1750 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit Router||Good router|
What is next? Practice friends! Get building, flex your mental muscles (and physical ones too) and use what you learned to bring a new beautiful informatic existence into our world. And don't forget to share!
The learning process never ends, but this is one of those situations when you say the journey is as important as the destination. So journey on!