We are pretty unlikely to avoid taking a look at a case just because another reviewer didn't like it. We've been playing with the case over the past week or so and certainly have developed our own list of pros and cons which the guys will attempt to cover while showing what it's like to build in the it.
The airflow is pretty good, as solid front panels go. We've built in the case a couple times (Barry is currently using one as his main work PC right now) and not run into any notable thermal issues, but it can certainly vary with component selection. What are you looking at for a part list?
The linked part list (and total price) is correct.. looks like I managed to delete that line with the second memory kit when I was posting it here. I've added it back.
Interestingly enough, we didn't have any issues on this particular build. We had built several Ryzen systems by the time we built this one (about 2 months after Ryzen launched), most which had some sort of issue that required a BIOS update, etc to work around. If I recall correctly, this was the first that didn't really give us any issues that we needed to sort out.
That said, we generally recommend updating to the latest BIOS revision once you have everything put together and before you start installing the OS, etc. It can save you a lot of headaches if the board happened to ship with an older revision that had known issues.
And if you do have any issues getting your system up and running, you can always make a post in our Troubleshooting forum with your part list and a description of what you're seeing / what you've tried. There are lots of folks happy to help you figure out what might be going on!
You can hear it at full and normal fan speed during its test boot in the build video, though granted that's with the side panel off. It's a bit quieter once it's closed up and the GPUs seemed to make most of the noise when we really pushed the system, since we set the case fans to the quieter speed and allowed the H115i to use its default cooling profile based on thermals (we didn't hook up Corsair Link).
Essentially, I'd say the case didn't sound particularly better or worse for noise relative to what we find with most glass side cases under load. No where near silent, but not overly loud.
Sorry to hear you're having trouble bringing the system up. I'd recommend you make a post in our Troubleshooting forum where more people are looking to help. Post a description of what's going on, what you've specifically tried and a link to your part list so hopefully you can get some help figuring out what's going on.
You should be fine then -- the header on ASUS motherboards use a 4-pin [ 12V / G / R / B ] header, which is the same as the 4-pin strip I linked above. That board should also come with an extension which will make wiring it to the starting location you want easier.
We haven't run it through the benchmark suite yet, but given our previous Kaby Lake i7-7700K / 1080 Ti build managed around 174fps at 1440p on Epic, I think it looks pretty promising. ;)
Oh man. I hadn't seen that until you asked. I think we'll just stick to the stock fans.. my ears are still ringing a bit after hearing that thing power on. :D
When this was build, it was an easy addition to an entry level system to provide a nice boost to the overall performance of the OS and any core games you might choose to install to it. SSDs are certainly not terrible in any build, and it ultimately comes down to the trade offs you're personally willing to make. But unfortunately, between rising prices on memory, SSDs and GPUs, it's difficult to recommend an SSD for a similar $500-$600 (USD) budget build right now. In our recent guide updates, we've dropped the 240GB SSD and bumped the 3.5" HDD to 2TB.
I'd have to check the pin order, but if you're wanting a 5m strip like this one, you might be able to just pick up a similar kit that's a 4-pin RGB strip instead of RGBW. Which motherboard are you wanting to use?
Glad you enjoyed it! We'll run benchmarks on it next week. I'll also be sure to update the top of this post when the completed build write-up is posted.
This topic has been moved from "Systems > Troubleshooting" to "General > Site Feedback And Feature Requests".
Is this still happening for you? Can you post a screenshot of what you see when it's not working?
Yes... yes it is.
I was curious which kit it's suggesting to you that is showing out of stock. If the current suggested memory was out of stock, the parametric filter should have replaced it with the next least expensive option matching the guide's filters and compatibility. If it gave you an out of stock item, I'd like to investigate the issue.
Thanks for sharing your completed build, I'll check it out. While we ran a few game benchmarks on it and didn't see anything terribly unusual, I'll try out Witcher 3 to see how that one fairs and add it to our completed build write-up. We don't test the GPUs with an overclock, but with what we tested already, we were seeing reasonably expected temps (under 80C) with a power target at 100%.
Check out our YouTube Channel for lots of build videos showing step by step, how to put things together. In particular, we last built a system based on this guide a few months ago: Entry Level (Intel) Gaming PC Live Build. We also published a build tutorial for anotther similar build to this a while back. If you have any questions along the way, be sure to stop by our forums for more help!
We haven't have any unusual issues with temps or performance. You can see the completed build write up for our benchmark results. We're actually using this PC as a video editing rig right now. So far it's been doing great.
Correct -- we don't add an operating system, monitor, keyboard or mouse to our guides as the variance of needs and preferences on those is pretty tough to represent in a guide. So we instead focus the target budget price around the core system components.
That said, you can find retailer listings for purchasing Microsoft Windows in our Operating System category.
Not a problem, just edit the part list and manually add the case you prefer. Here's a link to the previous case we were using on this guide: Corsair SPEC-04 (Black/Red)
We change the cases up each month to inspire ideas for alternate options we would recommend. As zdbpcmaster mentioned, you can always get back to previous versions of our guides using the revision history section on the side bar.
Which memory kit are you looking at? The part list should be using a parametric filter to find the least expensive option matching the criteria set by the guide, but filtered by your region and retailer preference. Do you happen to have any retailers removed from your preferences?
Sorry, I missed your comment earlier -- but you guessed it! At the moment, with only Z370 boards available starting at around double the price for the Kaby Lake B250 motherboards, it's tough to recommend Coffee Lake at this budget. We do typically prefer to recommend the latest generation platforms for giving more upgrade options down the road, so we're keeping an eye on it and will update the lower budget guides once options start popping up that might work well.
If it helps, we live streamed building a very similar system based on an older version of this guide a couple months ago:
Entry Level (Intel) Gaming PC Live Stream Archive
I'm going to way over simplify this, and there are caveats -- but basically the architecture used on the Ryzen processors to interconnect the CPU cores (as well as external connections to things like the PCIe controller, SATA, USB devices, etc.) run at the same speed as the memory controller, so using and configuring for faster clocked memory speeds generally translates into better performance.
The post above has been updated, but I wanted to mention in the comments as well that we had something come up at the last second and needed to bump the live stream by one day.
The live stream will now be on Friday, October 27th at 2PM CDT.
Sorry for the last minute confusion!
The V750 has a 5 year warranty, not 2.
One of the goals we place on planning our build videos is to intentionally try out new and different components. We've built with units that fall under the 3 series you mentioned, and will probably do so again, but there are plenty of great options to explore out there.
We typically just run the clocks at stock settings for the initial benchmark run on the live stream, but we're curious as well, so will spend some time looking at overclocking for the Completed Build write-up that is usually published a week or so after the build.
Thanks for your feedback! Unfortunately, not this time -- but I'll see if next time we might be able to get something worked out for both regions.
Not sure I follow -- it's a pretty positively reviewed unit.
Not this particular one as it's a 5-pin RGBW strip rather than the 4-pin header used with Aura RGB/Sync.
No -- Ryan is manirelli. I'm Jack. :)
Thanks! Yeah, you'd have to use a USB optical drive if needed since there's no optical drive mounts on this case. This system should do quite well for video editing and rendering 4K content.
We haven't, though it's something we'd love to do at some point. We've talked about it for a special project series or something, but for most of our builds we typically stick to using hardware our System Builder supports. (custom water cooling components are still a bit further out on our TODO list)
The RGB LED infinity mirror comes pre-installed on the 805 Infinity. You can get a version without it as well.
Unfortunately, the version of the Riing fans we had with that cooler had to be controlled with the Thermaltake controller, so only our case lighting was controlled by the motherboard software.
The H7 Quad Lumi just comes that way. You can get a non-RGB/LED version of the H7 as well, but this one has a USB header that controls the lighting on the fan and top plate.
The Focus G doesn't have built in support for a vertical GPU mount, so the short answer is no.
However, if you really wanted to do it, then it'd have to be a custom modification to the case. You'd need to find or create a support bracket for the GPU and create an appropriate cut out in the back of the case for it to sit into. And then of course you'll want to take into consideration the height of the components coming off the motherboard to sit behind the GPU.
So the long answer kinda comes down to your definition of overly complicated. :)
Skimming the result files, it looks like the max CPU clock reached across any subset of 4 cores was 4.174 GHz, so close, but not quite 4.2. Typically the peak across most testing seemed to land around 4.123 GHz. The system is still built though, I'll see if we can push it a bit more and see if we can get there.
Oh my. That's quite a request.. But glad you enjoyed this one!
Interesting. What CPU are you running? Are you overclocked past 3.5 GHz? I believe the OpenGL test is impacted by both GPU and CPU, but that's certainly a large gap to be behind. I'll re-run those test to make sure we didn't miss something.
We've not created any tutorials for overclocking, though it might be a good idea. That said, a number of recent motherboards have simple "auto tuning" or "quick set" overclock options for pushing your CPU higher without a lot of effort. You might check your motherboard manual to see what it may offer.
Sorry, we didn't overclock on this one and don't still have the CPU on hand, so I don't have any data to particularly share for that scenario. We did apply a simple overclock on our i7-7800X build a while back with some success, though it used a different CLC.
It varies with each build, but no -- we don't sell them. :) With this specific build, for example, the CPU was loaned to us and needed to be returned. Many of the components (Video Card, Memory, Storage and CPU cooler) were used to also create an intentionally similar X399 video. But most of the components typically get set aside for possible reuse in our future videos/livestreams or re-purposed if needed for benchmarking or other projects.
Thanks for the feedback, as always! Glad you enjoyed it.
Indeed. :) Thanks?
We created the part list specifically for the livestream, so a few components will likely be recycled into our inventory for future content. That said, one of our developers is eyeing the high core count setup for a development rig, as he uses a lot of virtual machines.
And everyone in the office is eyeing that EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2. Something about wanting to "more fully benchmark" it.
Combined score is tricky -- the 1950X build I linked has 2-way SLI GTX 1080 Ti GPUs.
Thanks! Glad you liked it.
Can you be more specific about what you see in the FS scores that seems off to you? The individual GPU scores seem pretty reasonable compared to what we saw with this GPU previously and the CPU / Physics scores are just a touch below what we saw with this CPU's big brother.
Not bad at all. During the livestream, they commented on it briefly during the benchmark run. It was pretty quiet.