ooh, this in nice and custom :D
The second best of the ones I tried was pretty much the same price - as with most things you get what you pay for (certainly when you get to a point you pay insane premium for very little gain - but this is far from enthusiast class speakers, it's not even the highest in the Dali series, which cost quite a bit more). I've done several months of speaker-listening before deciding for those, and I brought multiple speaker-sets of the ones I liked the sound of back to my own living room for live testing. So I certainly know that for 10% of the price I would not get the sound I have today. A car costing 10% will also get you from A to B, but spending more to get one that actually performs alright is not a waste.. :) A waste would be spending on something you don't need, or wont use - I enjoy the sound of this setup every single day - so it's hardly a waste ;)
For gaming... yes.. 2.3 GHz isn't really great for much gaming. - but it has tons of monitors and harddrives _^
has some compability issues it seem though, with graphics cards requiring drive bays to go out, which will then be a problem since it seem to use all the drive bays for storage
I'm not a master race, I just love gaming, regardless of platform :D
I currently got a Wii U, but look to possibly grab the Switch.
Also I was looking at the PS4 Pro, but finding out it can't play UHD Blu-ray (which even the current Xbox can) I skipped it. I may go for the new Xbox upgrade when it launches, as I want to go for a console rather than buying a uhd blu-ray player.
For PS we will have to see.. I MUST have Final Fantasy VII remake when it comes, while Red Dead Redemption I hope will release on PC as I don't really enjoy FPS on a gamepad, but still the previous RD was awesome. The Wii U is btw amazing on the large TV, splitscreen is mint as both can see everything clearly - same goes with Dirt3 on PC there. - for driving I use the gamepad, even on the PC :)
I like it very much for casual gaming, single player and split screen (racing for instance). However for competitive FPS games like Battlefield 1, PUBG etc. I find the input lag, even though the Samsung does in the low 20's is more than I'd like. My gaming monitor's are doing 2-4ms and I notice the difference in fast pased twich aim games. In games that are played vs AI, and games with more strategy than reflexes the 4K monitor with the large picture is on another level.. Everything is more clear, hearing where the enemies are in surround is a huge advantage. does games take advantage of the height sound yet? or only uhd blu-ray movies?
yeah I read so in your description. You have speakers and sub which I also looked at while picking the parts for my own home theater setup :)
Are you doing much gaming on the home theater? And if so, what do you find to be the pros and cons?
Awesome build :D good job indeed :)
noise is the reason. every aio will make some amount of noise, as all water cooled systems will with pumps running and water flowing. (they can get very quiet, but not dead silent). air cooling with passive (ribs) as well as very low speed fans will always beat aio in noise during idle.
You can't really go wrong with either of the brands you mentioned either, top quality. I remember in the early days there were lots of hit and miss with keyboard and mouse - but now there is just so much good stuff to pick from :) you are welcome.
About the Roccat stuff, I first started using Roccat for my previous gaming build now sitting in my office, and I like it very much. The bonus that made me start with them is the easy shift, which lets you bind a secondary function to every single button on both mouse and keyboard, toggled by pressing the easy shift (defaults to caps-lock on the keyboard). It can also be a mouse-button but I use the caps as I never need capslock functionality ingame (or elsewhere). That way playing a game like wow, or path of exile I can bind spells and potions with two variations on each mouse button, opening for some awesome possebileties..
In addition they have the ability to pick your favourite mechanical switch, and a good software package that makes it a breeze to set up mouse/keyboard binds, light combos, macro's and more. - I'm not sure if they are a big brand in the US (they are located in Germany) but they are going strong here :)
Thanks for the pictures and feedback. It's some time since I bought my monitors and read about the sometimes troublesome support for ultra wide - and most games I've played in super-ultra wide spanning all my 3 16:9 monitors has been extremely stretched towards the edges, ui elements not placed well etc. - but I guess with 21:9 (which is a lot closer to 16:9 than 54:9 should be easier to make right and is likely already supported in most titles. Letterboxing is not at all an issue, as basicly it just lowers the picture back to a 16:9 which with a standard monitor is what you'd have anyway.. :) Problem for me will likely be that I'd want three of these spanning my desk.. as once I went tripple monitor I dont see myself going back from that either, same with high hz.. 120 is likely the least I'd want.. not sure if one can do 120/144hz over three monitors of 1440 res with a single card as of yet.. :)
Wonderful build :) Could I see some photos of ingame with the ultrawide?
I'm still steps away from going ultrawide myself as my desk can't fit more than the three monitors I already use, but I'm curious as to how it plays - I read earlier that not all games support ultrawide and mess up the ui or stretch out the picture - how does this play out for you? :)
that build does not work, there is a shortage of 3x2,5 drive bays and you are 5 sata ports short to plug all these drives :)
Good comment - though I'd also have to wait for and pay for shipping to Norway, I don't know anyone doing them over here. Cablemanagement-wise I'm pretty happy with it, considering it's using all standard cables - they simply don't bend and move slick like real custom ones does.
So I agree it would be nice with customs, though the wait and extras for something you pretty much never will see made me not even consider it this time around, if the pc had been placed on a desk next to me and not between the wall and the speaker, I'd might want to go for it still. :)
And as this is gaming hardware I doubt anything built today will last 10+ years, two 1080Ti's will simply be too measly by that time - and it better be, I crave for new and better tech :D
As I prefer Roccat mouse and keyboards that would not make much sense for me, and the Couchmaster does the very same job with whatever keyboard/mouse combo I'd ever would want to throw at it :)
No thanks, MSI says you should with these cards, but it just looks too bad.. The sag looks better and also keeps top card backplate off the CPU Fan-bracket :)
The armored PCI-slots can take the weight even if it sags a bit :)
I'd pick the PC every time :D
Speakers comes in pairs :) or else I'd be silly to not buy two of those :D
My build was prior to the TR-4 Socket-release :D
And I went with fast cores over many - so quite the opposite actually :)
It seems you didn't read neither the description nor the comments before posting :)
It seem to have up to 120hz - not sure if it does so in HD, but it can do 120Hz. It also has an imput lag of avg 20 - which is acceptable for livingroom gaming (on par with Samsung TV's which are known for low input lag) yet it still is a bit behind gaming monitors which is preferred 2-4ms - but this is common, and for singleplayer, coop, casual multiplayer etc. it's perfectly fine :) My gaming monitors are also BenQ :)
Thanks for sharing this gem :D
This is what Love is right there, love for custom PC :)
I love the Bumblebee, and also the full setup with the tripple monitor for work, and larger TV for entertainment :)
what TV is it? what's the input lag? - I have a somewhat similar setup, so I'm curious :) I love playing on the TV, but for competitive FPS gameplay I still prefer my 144hz 4ms gaming monitors.
:D Even the Wii U benefits from the rest of the setup indeed, split screen Mario Kart is very nice :) do you have any experience with the Switch? Is it worth... Switching? ;)
Beauty and the Beast :)
For a comparison of the water-build you have I've done a build in the same case, but on air.
My build runs around 50 degrees Cpu and Gpu when not gaming hard on it, and 70 on both when gaming hard.
When not gmaing hard the computer is completely silent even when you put your ear all up to the case, while at hard gaming you certainly hear the build, yet a lot more quiet than any previous pc I've built.
I'm not well schooled in water cooling, but air is still used to cool the rads, and wont the reservoir block much of any potentional airflow-path? At least for my air-cooled build the main objective was to keep a good airflow between intake/outtake that would pass the heating components. Was just thinking maybe the airflow is the hinderance since you said removing top and front cover made a big impact, sounds like it's the air that is the bottleneck, and not the waterloop part?
Very good job on the build. Oh and mind that my build is a 7700K non-overclocked running two 1080Ti's - so my total heat production will be smaller than yours..
Here I could not :) I did spreadsheets of the cheapest available RAM for each speed from the Norwegian stores on the day I bought them, and got the ones that was the cheapest :) 'More powerful' means? Combined CAS and Speed could not have been better without upping voltages on the RAM. As mentioned many times earlier - remember Norway and the US does not have the same prices for computer parts.
Living and Dining area combined makes for a quite large Living-room for two people :) and I like the shape as it gets you close to the screen. For audio purposes the size of the room is also right (though he shape and placement isn't). Usually one would have a media room dedicated to the home cinema, and maybe later I will - however it's very nice to have it in the living room itself - as it makes us use it for everyday everything :)
I'm actually happy with the cable management :) No custom sleeves which bends easily etc. but does not clutter up and velcroed on the back
You're right, it's adjustable in tilt, roll and pan - and I had it rolled a bit to the right when I took the pictures :) Good observation :D
Sorry, don't have Team Fortress 2 :)
Congrats, that is one Epic build :D
I love the execution and thought that has gone into the build. and great to make her her own PC like that.
(also nice with the homework/chores rule)
Absolutely well worth the feature - thanks for sharing :)
* HDD's are cheaper per MB than SSD's and comes in larger sizes.
Most people will prefer OS and Games on SSD for the speed, while using HDD's for file storage to save money.
The parametric selection is an awesome idea :) nice job :)
I don't have a car. And the speaker system and TV is crucial parts of the Home Theater Gaming Setup (which is what's listed) and the "couch" you refer to is the NerdyTec's CouchMaster, a wonderful addition which makes gaming from the couch a breeze, highly recommended :)
If both are 60hz, then 4K will be better (but look into input lag of said monitors also - I find that rather important). If you run 120 or 144hz, then the 4K monitor would require you to dial down settings to benefit from it, as the top games today run 60-70FPS on Ultra in 4K with those cards. Remember to run windows at 150% or so scale if going 4K, as some ui objects gets very small in 4K :)
Yeah very happy with the living room. it functions well as both home theater, music listening and gaming. It is the first proper TV and Stereo I've gotten after I was done studying, so I figured to go proper right away. Spent quite some time researching and listening to pick the right parts for the sound system - computer stuff I already knew much about from building lots of computers, but did much research on how to get the computer completely silent when not gaming (and yet quiet while gaming) while still being able to pull off 60fps at 4K on ultra settings in high-end games - and the TV was the right pick at the moment as it has a low input lag (for a 4K TV) - so I'm really pleased with all the parts in the living room :)
I've recently gone with Seagate Expansion Portable. And I always stay away from the drives which use external power. Most important for them to survive is to avoid vibration of the drive, and to safe disconnect (even if life is too short to safely disconnect drives). :)
For backup I'd likely go with a 1TB external hdd which can be stored off the machine. if something like overcurrent is to kill your data you anyway don't want it inside the same pc that got fried in the first place :D Myself I use the cheapest dropbox-account for 1TB online backup - but an external drive will be a cheaper sollution. :)
Love your build :) Nice components.
I'd not go with HDD's for upgrade as they will add noise and usualy block airflow - a NAS seem like a very good idea though :D
Haven't gotten to try that yet, so many games to play. I've bought and installed it though - but only gone through settings as of yet :)
88500 USD is what that car cost in Norway - to give perspective of the price differences.. (and that's the clean starting-price)
Lovely build, as custom as they get :D
I like how you used Sketchup to model the build before building it, I did the same with my build even if it's not custom at all - to ensure I had clearance for the parts.
Remember to warn people before entering your office ;)
Pretty thing :D
The cost is about what people spend on a car. I neither want or need a car. So it's really more about priority than anything else.
if clocked right I'm sure it can..
yeah, I figured this would be the best way to be able to both reach the underside of the Cpu Heatsink and top at the same time while tightening it - as I was building it alone :)
Sweet build :) nice parts and good looks.
I think it fits your cozy gaming corner very well :)
uhm, you also get a car for $3,000 US..
and you usually get what you pay for :)
There are 2x 1tb m.2 ssd as well as 1 tb sata ssd, so a total of 3tb. With already 25tb on the office computer I don't really need tons of storage on the home theatre gaming rig. And I avoided hdd as they would make sound, and likely malfunction as they are all up by the righ hand sub
More of the cables would be too short, but power is the worst to 'extend'. Even if it would go out mid-wall it would need 80cm+ extra slack as i often push the tv 60cm out from the wall, plus swivel it to see the tv from the dining area. Subs come with calibration setup through mic, plus I use audyssey on the Denon to solve much for the room lackings. Sure it will not be perfect, but it gets really good. One in the back would not work well with the room layout, itd simply look bad. No given setup is sure to be good with every room, with subs its often about moving and rerun the testsounds to see what the frequencies read, then move and try again, or more for this setup I did tweaking of the subs frequency settings to get a smooth as possible curve while also going as deep as they could.
For threatment there is just the curtains, blinds, carpet and sofa. I wont add bass traps or other abdorbees/diffusers as this is the common living room. I just dont find it fitting there. If I later build a room focused on media, then the room shape, setup and decoration would build more around that performance :)