Looks great! Nice job.
Agreed. Liking what I see so far.
Mind if I bump this once? Really hoping for some ideas that may point me in the right direction.
Definitely do not need a cooler that capable unless you plan on heavily overclocking that 3700X. You could get the Dark Rock 4 or Slim for less. Also, you don't need anywhere near that much power supply wattage to run that system. A 450 could handle it so go for a 550 or 650 if you'd like to be comfortable with some extra headroom. Given you're not playing games and hardware is only getting more efficient as the technology progresses, it is highly unlikely you'll ever need a 750W unit for your uses.
Amazing build. Nice job.
Could save money by going with something other than a Samsung SSD, especially considering there are newer, cheaper, and faster models available. Rest of the build looks good. 650W is unnecessary for that build, though. Go lower unless you plan on upgrading to something significantly more power hungry one day.
9700K. A GPU can always be sold and replaced easily and it practically takes one minute to pull a card out and put a new one in. I know a lot of folks like to chalk the video card up as the most important component, but I'd wager the average lifespan of a GPU is 3-4 years before someone upgrades whereas a CPU can hold strong for about 5-6 in my opinion.
Plus you want to stream.
Yep, go for a RMX buddy. Even more wattage for practically the same cost. I hadn't realized these Corsair ones were on a sale still. If it were at its regular price of $110-ish I still wouldn't be recommending it, but for under $90 bucks that can't be beat.
Here's a link for you again: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2HbwrH/corsair-rmx-2018-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020178-na
Interesting. Hadn't heard about this, thanks for the share. That said, can't say I've had any negative experiences with Seasonic or the EVGA G3 (which is one I admittedly have seen receive a lot of hate thrown its way) at any point in time. The G3 and Focus are practically all I've bought in recent years unless a Corsair was on a better sale. Yikes...
Actually, scratch that. EVGA's old, cheaper units from many years back used to be ticking time bombs. I do recall that at least.
You could probably get away with a 450W or a cheaper bronze rated unit, but this Focus Gold is my best suggestion for quality/price. Unless there are some good sales going on elsewhere, of course.
Thanks, appreciate it. And yessir! Ryzen is awesome.
Consider saving money on the case and getting a better power supply. There are much better cases around the $75 mark and I'm surprised to see that one priced so high. Also, you may have to flash a new bios to that motherboard before it will be happy to take that 3600.
Your build kicks ***. Enjoy it for many years.
Sometimes there can be issues, but those will usually just amount to having to loosen the timings or frequency in order for the memory controller and motherboard to accept them. Based on your screenshot it seems you are just fine! Not surprisingly either; the Flare X sticks are some top quality RAM. I bought them for my rig too.
Great work on this one. This build deserved some more recognition!
Also, what frequency and timings were you able to get those Flare X kits stable at? I see you're running 2 separate kits on a dual channel 'board.
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How does this look? Threw together a dirt cheap system and you could toss in a used RX 570 for even more gaming performance one day if you'd like. Maybe consider buying a handful of case fans for a couple bucks here and there too. Do note you will likely need to add a secondary SSD or Hard Drive eventually for bulk storage. However, this will get you going with the essentials and maybe a dozen games.
Simply too much money. It's a great card, but the regular 2070 and the new RX 5700 XT cost significantly less while only lagging behind a bit compared to the Super's performance.
I'd save the money. You could get 2 high-end, fully custom Noctua Chromax coolers and fans that look sexy and perform the same, if not better, than a 240mm closed-loop unit for much less money.
Act quick. Seems like that PSU is on a big sale. If you miss out on it, I'd suggest a Seasonic Focus Plus Gold or EVGA SuperNova G3.
And your build looks great overall. I think the 2070 Super is a bad value card, though.
That's an awesome build, especially for the price. Only suggestion would be to consider swapping out the MX500 for a Crucial P1, Intel 660P, or HP EX920. None of them are the greatest, but they're faster. Great bang-for-the-buck NVMe drives. I started with a MX500 in my build as well and now I laugh in hindsight because only a few months after we started to see those entry-level M.2 NVMe drives sell for roughly the same cost.
I don't know anything about StarWars, but this build looks awesome. I like your old case too.
Thanks for the response, I appreciate it.
Is the 1660Ti slightly faster or slower than the Vega 56? I don't recall, but if it's slower or on par, I'd really only consider it an entry-level 1440p card. However for the games you plan to play it may be just fine, but definitely something to keep in mind nonetheless. Why not consider a base 5700 or 2060?
I cannot even begin to comprehend speeds that fast. You must be in heaven. And yes, always nice to see somethin' out of the ordinary around here. Well done and nice write-up.
Looks gorgeous. Nicely done!
Take notes, everyone. This is how RGB lighting should be used! As complementary accent colors for a build theme. Not some rainbow puke, disco ball system that lights up your entire house. Awesome job with this build. It looks clean and professional.
Great quality across the entire build. Pretty good mix and bang for the buck components. You did good for a first-timer. Enjoy and have a good one!
No worries, ask away. The Carbon is probably the only B450 I could confidently suggest pairing a 2700X with just in terms of its power delivery and overall build quality - so anything below that would be nothin' for that motherboard to handle. Your processor choice is entirely up to you as there's no wrong decision between a 2600(X) and 2700(X). As for the SSD, I'd recommend taking a look at a Crucial P1, Intel 660P, or HP EX920. Those are all entry-level NVME drives for around the same cost and they'll run circles around any standard SATA drive.
This build is very good overall, but that SSD sticks out to me. You can probably get something better/faster for the price. Are you wanting to save money anywhere, though? If so, swap out that Carbon motherboard for an Asrock Steel Legend. The MSI 'board you have is the best B450 out there and it's not really necessary for a 2600 unless you have another reason for choosing it. The Steel Legend would be plenty capable and it also looks great.
A TV will likely have much worse response time and depending on its size it could appear very blurry while gaming. That said, for movies from a distance it could be just fine. Maybe consider mounting that one on the wall above a monitor you get or use it side by side some day? But it definitely can work for now if that's what you'd like to do.
I also agree with a 5700 XT recommendation.
Build looks really good. However, you could opt for a better motherboard (especially since that's a micro one you plan to place in a standard sized case) and the power supply could be of better quality.
1660Ti or RX 5700 is entirely up to you. Given that the 1660Ti is already relatively close to the pricing of a 5700 I would say the 5700 holds the better value, but it may not be valuable to you if you do not need or intend to utilize the extra horsepower. It's gonna depend on your monitor's refresh rate and the resolution you intend to game on. Both cards are really good. That's your judgement call to make.
If the 3600mhz kit is cheaper or the same price then go for that. Latency is relative and you could always try to lower it and tighten timings later. 3200 CL14 is roughly the same as 3466 CL16 and so on. However, the amount of real-world gain you'll get from going with 3600 over 3200 is practically non-existent. Only get it if you're certain there isn't a better value 3200 kit out there.
You'll probably want a 550W power supply. I could see your current 450 being stretched under load with this system. Cutting it a little too close to comfort if you ask me.
Can't help you much with the motherboard scenario. I don't own a Zen 2 chip yet and I cannot make any claims about what will or will not be compatible out of the box yet. I will say, however, that the Asrock 'board you're planning to get is not of great quality and has questionable reviews regardless of whether it's gonna be compatible or not. I'd only consider going for that 'board in a sub-$500 dollar budget build.
Looks good. If you're opting out of going for the Noctua Chromax stuff (it looks awesome, but it's pricey) you could consider getting a BeQuiet Dark Rock 4 or Pro 4 cooler for the matte black aesthetic.
Only glaring problem is the power supply. You do not need anywhere near 850w for that system. Keep it if you'd like it, but you'd be fine with a 650 or 750 if you wanted comfortable headroom. The new Red Devil looks awesome!
Don't worry, I stopped following tech' for a few years and felt the same way about the M.2 drives when I came back too. I didn't quite trust 'em yet, especially considering they were a bit more expensive at the time. Now though, the technology has matured and their convenience can't be beat. They're practically the same price now - often cheaper!
Took the words out of my mouth. Agree with all your changes, although I'd say replacing the cooler should be the lesser priority. That Noctua is still good enough and it's not exactly a terrible value by any means; if he wants it then go for it. Yeah though, some can be found for a bit cheaper that perform on the same level or a bit better.
Looks good. I would suggest going for a more well-known and trusted SSD manufacturer, though. Could consider spending a little extra on a Gold rated 550W power supply as well. You don't need 650 for that system.
Looks really nice. Anything gold/orange/copper and black themed gets a vote from me.
I don't think a 1660Ti is a 'casual gaming' video card or a 3600 with an X570 chipset is necessary. Not knocking the other part lists suggested to you, but you don't need to spend anywhere near $1000 to hit the performance goals you're after - especially considering you said you may update later.
Here's my list:
A 580/590/1060/1660 will be more than enough for you. Just find the best deal you can. This 590 for only $190 bucks is a steal.
Case is modest but practical. Got you a nice power supply with a little extra headroom if you ever put a really power-hungry video card in your system one day.
Motherboard is all you need. If you'd prefer a neutral gray/black theme, go for a the Tomahawk. If you'd prefer a white/silver theme, go for the Asrock Steel Legend. A good white Fractal or NZXT case can be found but it'll cost you extra.
CPU cooler wasn't necessary but it delivers good performance for the cost. If you'd prefer a better appearance, check out the Hyper 212 Black Edition although it'll cost you a little extra.
Really good bang-for-buck SSD in the Crucial P1. 500 is plenty for a boot drive with about 10-15 games and a handful of programs. Add more later if you need it or change it to the 1tb model now. The Sabrent Rocket suggested above is also very good, it's actually faster and tiny bit cheaper, but it's a lesser known brand with a shorter warranty. Choice is at your discretion.
The rest of the money is yours to spend on whatever peripherals, operating systems, or accessories you'd like. Cheers!
Great mod! Turned out awesome.
Happy to be the first to say this is bad-***! Awesome job and execution. I did a similar build so you could say I'm a sucker for post-apocalyptic stuff, but you nailed it with this one. Great job.
It's not bad. Almost every ATX case I know of has Micro motherboard support. It just looks weird is all and you will be losing some of the added features standard ATX 'boards come with. Extra USB ports probably being the most obvious. Good news is both of the motherboards I mentioned above come in both Standard and Micro form factors. Choose whichever you'd like.
I think the Asrock Steel Legend or MSI Gaming Plus are your best options out of that list.
I think a RTX 2060 or RX 5700 would be appropriate for your needs. If you wanted to save some money or buy used, you could also consider a 1660Ti or Vega 56/64. Not much reason to have any more horsepower than those cards for 1080p/144hz or 1440p/60hz. All of them are good.
Nope, ironically the temperatures of said components overheating and thus throttling their voltages down will lower your power bill. Keeping them cool will allow them to run at higher voltages and clock higher. More horsepower = more energy.
Well, the 2400G could certainly be enough if you don't intend to play many games - or the ones you do are more of the lightweight browser game caliber. Say, stuff like Guild Wars, Sims, and that Tankoff game you mentioned. The 570 is more of a mainstream card for modern titles, albeit the best value entry-level option. I think that call will be up to you. Take a look at some video benchmarks of the 2400G and see what types of games it can run. As for the boot speed and the rest of your needs, a decent SSD and the RAM you have in your part list will have you covered.
I love the 570. I've used mine for almost a year and used one for my brother's system as well as my girlfriend's. It's the perfect card for just about anyone that wants to run some games and isn't overly concerned about settings. Can't be beat at that price and it delivers solid 1080p 60fps averages. The difference between a 570 and 590 is probably about 15-20% if I recall correctly. Your build looks great, enjoy.
No problem. That's what everyone said before launch because X570 'boards came with 3600 support 'out of the box', but it doesn't hold up as the best value. Here is a good video comparing the speeds of said kits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CloyuBw_E_0
This guy has one of the best channels when it comes to deals and value. Nice guy, too! Cheers and enjoy the build.
3600 RAM is unnecessary for the added cost. It yields practically no real-world benefit over 3200. It's better, sure, but not $40 bucks better.
750W PSU is not needed. Your system would run fine on 550W, but for a little extra headroom and some savings I switched you to a 650.
With those savings I got you a Crucial P1 instead of the low capacity Kingston drive.
Total system cost went down about $30 dollars after these changes. Everything else looks great about your build, but make sure the BIOS on that Tomahawk is up to date. I think most issues with Zen 2 on B450 have been ironed out by now.
Sure will. Keep your eyes on the Max Tomahawk. Perfectly capable of handling your 3700X and it should definitely cost less than $140-$150. The old Tomahawk regularly went for $100-$120 so I don't see any reason they'd increase it by much.