A good 760 will be a bit above the $200 mark, but it's slightly better than a decent 270 that's below it. Either way, you're right on looking at those two.
I apologize for my comment, as I didn't intend to offend anyone. I didn't mean that I was saying anything hurtful or rude, that's not my style. I've, in the past, merely suggested that the name was quite common and unoriginal and the user might want to consider changing it. Usually, it was accompanied by a clever comment, though. Again, sorry.
What would your GPU budget be?
Unless you're getting a 'physical delivery,' the shipping is still going to cost you a fortune. Unless you can actually get over here to the other colonies, you're still pretty much screwed on PC prices.
I have a sister that lives in Aus, and last time I was down there I sourced out the rig I'm using just for ***** and giggles. Nearly $5000! I love it down there, but honestly, PC parts are brutal.
What you've got there is probably the cheapest viable system that would work for most games. Technically, if your friend has no plans on overclocking you could ditch the CPU cooler, but stock AMD coolers are loud and inefficient.
Let's put it this way: I bought my sis a laptop about three years ago. Because of the price difference I bought it here in Canada and gave it to my parents to give it to her the next time they went down there (and I bought a pink one just to bug her). Since then, that's become the norm now. If Courtney needs computer parts, she lets me know before I come down there, and I bring them with me.
Sorry, but Aussies get kind of screwed when it come to PC building.
Not a bad choice, a bit limiting with the fan/cooler slots (I dislike 120mm AIO coolers), but it'll do. I just like the Node 304 because it has the 140mm fan slot for a good AIO cooler and it fits in a small duffel bag with my externals and peripheral components (keyboard, monitor, mouse, etc.). Also Fractal Design is one of the best case manufacturers out there.
Just for the record, I plan on gutting my old ASUS G73 laptop and making a ultra small form factor build out of it later this year. However, that's going to take a lot of customization. Frankly I'm only giving myself a 60% chance of success. If I screw it up, my backup case is going to be that FD Node 304.
EDIT: There is one thing that I'm not entirely sure about with that build I did up for you. The Kraken X41 has a 9mm thicker radiator than the X40 (previous model), so you might want to check your clearances. I do know that the X40 does fit with the vast majority of components in that case, so if the X41 doesn't fit, just default to the X40.
Well, technically you can get dual CPU mobos which, in turn you could put two coolers in the build, but obviously that's not the case here...
If you want something small and easy to transport, see if you like THIS. Largely similar to yours, but in a SFF mITX build with a better cooler and (I think) a better 280X. I didn't put the 840 EVOs in because you already have them.
No problem, mate.
All I'm saying is that in the long run a 64GB SSD is going to wind up being a major disappointment. Also, if you're doing video production (just noticed that line), you're going to want more than just a 1TB external. Why not just get another 1 or 2TB HDD and put your OS on that? You can get a good 1TB 7200RPM for roughly the same price as that SSD, or a 2TB for maybe $20-30 more. Since, as I said, you wouldn't be able to put anything other than your OS on the SSD, the only difference you'll notice is that your boot might take an extra 10-20 seconds, and you'll end up with a lot more storage space.
If you don't mind slow load times, why get it in the first place? Saving a few seconds on boot doesn't seem worth $55. On top of that, that specific SSD's price/performance ratio is somewhat rubbish.
Side Note: Just noticed that on your parts list that you wrote it down as 'Sandick.' Thanks for the chuckle...
The biggest concern I have with this build is the PSU. EVGA is now making some pretty good units these days, unfortunately, the one you chose isn't one of them. Something you have to remember is that your PSU is arguably the most critical part in your rig, as it's the only part that can fry your entire build if it fails. Although it doesn't always apply, my general rule is to spend ~7-8% of the total build cost on your PSU, which in this case is about $100. In that price range your best bet would probably be EVGA's 750W G2 SuperNova.
Although I agree that an aftermarket cooler is necessary for overclocking. the Kraken X60 is rubbish. It doesn't outperform it's 240mm rivals (H100i, Seidon 240m, etc.) enough to justify it's much inflated price tag. Not to mention that the OP's selected case doesn't have any 140mm fan slots, let alone two to accommodate the X60. The CM Hyper 212 EVO would be the best bet, because it's cheap and there's one part on that list that desperately needs attention, that PSU.
I only have one minor gripe about this build; the SSD. You'll pretty much only be able to get the OS on a 64GB drive, which means the only benefit that you'll see is a slightly quicker boot up. Either save up for one that you can get more programs on (~240GB), or just ditch it entirely and save the $55.
Other than that, pretty good.
No problem, mate. That's what these forums are for.
I am by no means saying that it's a bad model, a top end PSU is just a personal priority for me. As I said, it's a solid unit.
That makes two of us...
Looks pretty good. This is just my personal opinion, so feel free to ignore it, but if this was my build I'd probably go with a 2GB GPU and upgrade my PSU to something 80+ Gold that was fully modular. As I said though, that's just me.
Should work fine. Part selection is pretty good too. The PSU probably wouldn't be my first choice, but I tend to go overboard with PSUs. It's a solid tier 3 model. I don't know if they're available to you in Sweden, but if you can get your hands on a newer gen EVGA SuperNova (G2), I would recommend that. They're a bit pricier, but definitely worth it.
There's definitely some room for improvement. A few suggestions:
Swap that mobo out for an ASUS Sabertooth. It has higher quality components and comes with thermal armour that can be removed and painted.
Not a huge deal, but the CAS on your RAM is a tad high. Generally you want a CAS of 9 or lower.
You could also get a better PSU for cheaper than the one you chose. EVGA's G2s are pretty damn good. They're fully modular and the 750W model is just over $100.
Hope this helps.
You would be right, the X41 is almost 10mm thicker (X40-27mm/X41-36mm), must have slipped my mind. For the record the X40 is a great unit as well, and a bit cheaper.
It wasn't. The Hive series is a decent tier 3 model that I generally wouldn't complain about. I didn't say that all Rosewill PSUs were rubbish, just that they're inconsistant, and since the one the OP chose seems to be a new model - as I couldn't find a single review - I just said I was wary and offered up a model he could trust.
No problem. Those X41s are about $30 more than the H80i, but in SFF builds where there are significant airflow restrictions, they're just fantastic.
Personally I'd ditch the ROG mobo and go with ASUS' Sabertooth. It has better, more reliable components in its on board audio (which is pretty damned good, I have one). You can also remove the thermal armour and paint it to add a personal touch to your rig. Also, it comes with some decent software that should allow you to do without the fan controller.
I'd also look for some RAM with a CAS of 9 or lower.
Well, for £3-400 I added a few things to your build HERE.
Added a 250GB Samsung 840 EVO. If this is specifically a gaming rig (i.e. no editing, rendering, etc.), you won't see a lot of improvement anywhere but on boot and load times with certain programs and games.
Added a second R7 270X in CrossFire. This is probably your cheapest option for a significant gaming performance increases.
Swapped the PSU out for a newer gen NZXT 750W SuperNova. They're of good quality, they're 80+ Gold, and fully modular to boot.
Total price increase should be somewhere between about £300 and £350, depending on where you get the parts.
Unless you have a specific reason for having dual SSDs and HDDs, you're probably better off just getting single, larger units. As for the CPU cooler, get an NZXT Kraken X41. They're more expensive, but perform on par with the 240mm full size units.
Not bad. At that budget I'd probably go from a, 80+ Gold PSU that was fully modular though.
A few issues:
Why is your GPU not plugged into the proper x16 PCIe slot (the top one)?
What is this build for? Gaming? Editing? VMs?
You should really toss the slack from those PSU cables in the back of the machine. It would really clean it up.
Other than that, not a bad build, although if it's a gaming build, you really should have gone for a GPU with some more power.
What sort of budget are you working with?
Judging by the $0 price tag, I'd have to assume it was cannibalized from a previous build. Hell, you don't even want to know how many old HDDs used to have laying around.
Aside from the locked CPU and mobo (just a personal opinion) it's a pretty solid build. The only reason I say that - and this is doubly true for first builds - once you're done with the build, at some point you're going to want to tinker with it. Might as well get an unlock CPU and mobo now to give you the option to overclock when you feel like it.
As for the CPU cooler, the stock fan that comes with the CPU will do its job, but might run a bit hot and will be a bit noisy, but as long as you don't overclock with it, you'll be fine for the time being. An aftermarket cooler will be quieter, keep your CPU cooler, and allow for overclocking, and some are very inexpensive. One of the best price/performance models you can get is a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO, which you can usually pick up for under $30.
A 3.5" HDD out of a laptop? I can safely say I've never seen that before.
There are a bunch of things confusing me about this build. I suppose before I ask anything else, I'll just ask what you owned before you did this build.
I picked up two virtually silent SP fans for the push and I'm using the 240mm fan that came with my Storm Stryker for the pull on my Seidon. I hear the pump the most.
Slight addendum: My Z87 Sabertooth came with two small assist fans that mount in the thermal armour. Suffice it to say, they're no longer connected. Man did those things scream...
Although I agree, I've always been wary of OCing GPUs as it can significantly decrease their lifespan (especially if you increase the voltage). Personally, I actually keep my 770 underclocked unless I'm playing high demand games that actually need the power.
Although I can't really speak from experience (my current rig is the first computer I've built in over a decade and I've never compared this), but it seems strange that people say that liquid coolers are quieter than aftermarket air coolers. Liquid coolers usually have the same number of fans as an air cooler (if not more), and on top of that, they have a pump, which on my Seidon 240M is the loudest part.
If you're not overclocking, you're wasting money putting an AIO liquid unit on your CPU. Yes, you'll probably get cooler temps, but it's purely academic at that point. There's a reason that CPUs come with a fan (with the exception of OEM), they do their job. A decent inexpensive air unit would be the most you'd want in that case, as they're generally much quieter and give a bit of wiggle room in the case of hot rooms in the summer (or if you bought an AMD CPU).
As for the G10, I have one, I just don't have a cooler for it yet. That's a place where a 120mm is fine IMO (although I'm planning on getting an X40 for mine).
140mm coolers are fine in any case. The X40 is one of my most recommended coolers as it performs roughly on par with it's 240mm rivals.
If you've got the extra cash and want to get some high OCs, go nuts. As for a custom loops, again if you've got the extra cash... Just make sure you know what you're doing.
It's a full tower build. Putting a 120mm AIO is wasting your money. Much better off initially getting a better GPU and a respectable air cooler that can manage some decent OCs and getting a better cooler later.
If it was a SFF build (or even a cramped mid-tower), I might tend to agree with you, but not in a tower with this much room.
No, just a standard 290. The 290X generally runs around the $500 mark.
In a mid or full tower build, 120mm liquid coolers are pretty much pointless. They're significantly more expensive than decent air coolers, yet they don't out perform them by any significant margin. If you ditch the H80 and got a CM Hyper 212 you'd save almost enough cash to get yourself an R9 290 (depending on the mfgr).
I'm a little wary of that PSU. Rosewill has a bit of an inconsistent track record, and I was unable to find a single review on the product. I'd suggest an EVGA 650 NEX SuperNova. It's a bit more than that Rosewill, but it's 80+ Gold and fully modular.
Remember that the PSU is the last part on your rig that you want to save money on. It's the only part that's capable of frying your entire rig in the event of catastrophic failure (barring a water cooling foul up).
Why a Titan for gaming? You could've gotten two 780Tis c/w water blocks for $100-200 more and had a much more powerful machine.
That was my initial thought, but the ASUS DRW-24F1ST I got worked fine. Oh well, life's little mysteries.
I was actually a little pissed that I had to buy an optical drive with mine, as I had planned on just borrowing one from an old laptop to install my OS and then putting it back. However, I ran into a somewhat bizarre problem where, although it works fine in my laptop, the BIOS on my new rig wouldn't recognize it for some reason. Ended up spending $15 on a drive that got used for a total of an hour before it got removed again...
For the record, both the laptop and mobo are both ASUS, further adding to my confusion...
Pretty good, with one exception; that CPU cooler. 120mm AIO coolers aren't optimal for mid and full tower builds when you have other options. They just don't out perform their much cheaper air cooler rivals enough to justify their much greater price. I would suggest either getting a decent air cooler or a liquid cooler with a bigger fan and rad. Out of those I would recommend either an Corsair H100/H100i, a Cooler Master Seidon 240M, or an NZXT Kraken X40. The first two are 240mm rads and the X40 is a 140mm rad (which performs roughly on par with the 240mm jobs).
What is the intended use for this rig? I'm assuming gaming with that parts list.
Good overall parts selection. Although I agree with phantomtaco on switching the case out for a FD Define R4, I would probably keep the rest of your original parts list. The parts you've chosen may be more expensive, but they are better parts. This is especially true for that R9 290. Those cards need all the cooling that you can muster as they tend to run roughly twice as hot as the sun...
I'll also say something I say to most people that are building a gaming rig with no plans to overclock; trust me, spend the extra dough and get the unlocked CPU/mobo combo (the MSI Z97 G45 Gaming is of a comparable price). You may not have plans for OCing at the moment, but as you said yourself, you plan on this thing having a long lifespan. Who's to say that a few years down the road you won't want a bit of extra kick out of your rig? Don't potentially hamstring your future self.