I'd buy none of them, unless a 2060 MaxQ laptop has good battery life.
How is it realistic? And you mean at a loss.
If you could grab a 1070 for less than the 2060, go for it. If not, the 2060 is basically a 1070 Ti for $100 and 2GB VRAM less. It's also within 80-90% of the 2070's performance for at least $150 less. This RTX basically makes its case for anyone not willing to get the 2080 Ti.
I'm actually excited AMD will be competing in the high end. Definitely upgrading from my Vega 64 to the Radeon VII.
That 5000 limit is a rumor.
Enjoy! That's definitely a good case to build in.
If you ever doubt going Mini ITX, then go Micro ATX and get either the Thermaltake H18 or Core V21. Those are lovely cases to build in and your overall build would cost ~$40 less for it.
Depends on the settings. I increased the fan speed to around 3200 RPM, so it's loud but it keeps temps below 80°C, typically between 65 and 72 depending on the game.
As for portability, it won't fit in a bookbag, but it's fine in a small/medium duffel. It's like carrying one of those personal belongings boxes for cubicles in an office job. Except the PSU and GPU sure make that a bit heftier.
+1 for that Core V1. Also because your build beat mine by roughly $45.
You can check mine out in terms of tidying up that cable management, or lack thereof. You'd be pretty surprised by how effectively that case can hide those cables.
It is, unless you're trying to go higher than 60 fps or you're running 1440p.
Beautiful build! I recommend getting a pair of Autolizer 80mm fans (Blue LED) for the build. They definitely move a lot of air.
Keep an eye on that GPU, it's been getting hit with failures for many people.
Got that board (finally). It's performing better than the board listed here, which was great at overclocking my 2700X. And I even retained my LED settings, too.
An excellent case.
The 580 was a big L for me, but it paid off.
This case is great for Mini ITX builds. It was my first case and it's spacious. Definitely recommend it.
If you're talking about the rear fans, I used a splitter to connect the front and rear case fans.
I really wanted to do an all-white with red LED build, so seeing this is wonderful. +1
I saw this through my Google feed!
Seriously love the case, though I really hate that price.
Your specs eerily rival mine, though I love that SSD you got there. You definitely have superior RAM and a smaller form factor (I'm using Thermaltake's Core V1). And that 1080 at Vega 56 MSRP price is sweet.
Excellent build you got there.
My latest build cost $990.70, admittedly from insane bargain hunting for a 750W Corsair PSU, Vega 64, and 2700X. A motherboard swap (using Gigabyte AB-350N-Gaming) to the B450 I or even a discounted ASUS ROG Srix X470-I would bump that past $1000, though a 3GHz RAM upgrade would bring it down to the price of this suggested build.
Edit: The price of this Build Guide is basically a challenge for me to build a high-end gaming ITX under $1000. I plan to meet it head-on.
I'm actually dead set on getting it. I know the extra M.2 from the ASUS ROG Strix X470-I would be worth it, plus the RGB on the shields, but my builds have been consistently Gigabyte, Thermaltake, and Corsair. So far, they've been pretty good.
That wouldn't be bad.
It'd have fit. I updated my build with an RX Vega 64 and Ryzen 7 2700X. The reference 64 is pretty much the size of The 580 you mentioned, if not bigger.
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I meant the Wraith Prism default RGB lighting.
The AORUS boards suit the Ryzen color scheme really well
It does, I'm more tempted by the ASUS due to the Wraith Prism cooler's LEDs. I also have RGB fans so I'm gonna swap the red LED fans for my spare RGB fans. The red ones can go with my 580 in another Mini ITX build.
I'm split between the B450 I from Gigabyte and the X470-I from ASRock. The ROG is beautiful, for sure, but I'm having a hard time settling for even an open box. I've seen it new for $180, but the ASRock's always next to it at a lower price.
I got that PSU refurbished from Micro Center, the Motherboard was from previous builds and I got that open-box on Amazon. I got the GPU, SSD and HDD from auctions on eBay.
The only brand new (unopened) parts were the RAM, 2 case fans and the case. The motherboard and CPU were unused, but open-box.
I've seen similar builds go for $1100+ with bargain hunting, so once I optimize the build (RAM swap, motherboard swap, possibly an extra HDD) you'll either see this build between $950 US and $1020 US. And I will hunt open-box AORUS B450 I Pro WiFi boards for the next few weeks (Newegg just launched it).
Strong build there. I was working on mine Friday night, though I stuck with my Core V1 for it.
That case is pretty cool, I'd probably do some slick copper (*yes. copper) watercooling for it. A Ryzen 5 2600(X) upgrade would be fine, though I've seen Micro Center and other vendors selling the 2700 around $240, $270 for the 2700X. The 2600 is as low as $149.99 and the X variant costs $189.99 (on Micro Center). Now is a great time for CPU upgrades.
I swapped the parts in the middle of the night while people were sleeping, in low light. Everything ran fine, but once I updated my Radeon software and restarted the PC it was a wrap. I found out yesterday that it was the BIOS that acted up (couldn't boot my SSD) so I cleared the cMOS and got it running again.
This thing is deadly. I already loved my RX 580 (I'm installing copper pipes into its heatsink for watercooling) with its 1080p and 1440p capabilities. This card takes things to another level. Unless Vega 20 wows me across the board (it's claimed to be better than Turing by around 20%), this 64 will be here to stay. I'm actually going to build a second personal desktop for the 580, pair it with a 2600X.
No problem. This case is definitely pretty flexible for an mATX case. It'll get you really far.
This case fits ATX size power supplies of up to 200mm long. It also has a two piece brace to hold the PSU in place, so no worries when the bottom panel is removed.
Great build. I've used that case and it's definitely wonderful for many micro ATX builds.
The Core V1 houses my RX 580 8GB with little issue, while my thermals rarely pushed beyond 70°C. I didn't like how passive the cooling was in the 580, so I set its Max and Target temps to 75°C and 60°C respectively. Sometimes I shift the temps an extra 5 degrees but it's consistently in the 60s. My rear case fans definitely get rid of the extra heat with gusto. Still, the V21 is excellent for extra airflow.
Yeah. There's a bracket on the fan connector that lines up with a bar on the fan header. Make sure it lines up perfectly. If your fan still doesn't work, then you've got a bad fan or a bad header.
Right now I use a Y splitter for the fan header. The rear fans have a 3/4 pin connection so I connect the two molex connectors to each other, then use the 3-pin connector for the Y splitter along with the front case fan.
Before that, you can see the rear fans connected directly to the power supply with a molex cable, so the front fan was simply connected to the system1 fan header.
I read articles on the boards after the post. I'm looking forward to the ASRock Fatal1ty B450 ITX and Gigabyte Aorus B450 Pro WiFi. If the Gigabyte board has the same layout as its B350N, then I'm getting the ASRock.
I feel your pain on the cable management front; that motherboard's layout made cable management a nightmare for me. I'm planning on upgrading to either the ASRock or ASUS Strix X470 ITX boards, or wait for the upcoming B450 chipset (hopefully they make a Mini ITX).
That 2200G can handle Gears of War 4 with mixed settings (mainly high and medium) at 920p resolution for 21-31FPS. Anything lighter should definitely be taken care of by that little slugger.
Monitor aside, your build is strikingly similar in specs to my first Ryzen 3 build. Great job!
On eBay, the 2600X has a reputable seller selling it at $189.99 right now. I'm upset I can't get it at the moment, it's a perfect upgrade for my Mini ITX build. I was thinking about the 2700X, but the price and timing need to be right for me; I need a better motherboard to fully utilize the 2700X and a RAM upgrade for optimal performance.
Yeah, but it raised to $205 now. Still a wonderful deal.
The 2200G at 3.85GHz, Vega 8 iGPU @ 1550MHz with 4GB will play Gears 4 with mixed (recommended) settings, similar to the recommended settings for the 560, at 21-30FPS. Forza 6 with Medium preset and dynamic rendering was running 45-60FPS with or without V-sync at 1600x900. And it still looked gorgeous. It's a slight drop at 1080p, with 35-50FPS.
eSports titles are less demanding, so I don't see why it wouldn't tackle those games if it can handle more intensive games.
The 560 I have only made the build that much better.
I've set the integrated graphics in the BIOS to Forces and manually set UMA to 4GB. I played Gears of War 4 in both campaign and XBL with mixed settings for 22-30FPS @ 1634x920. It starts to stutter a bit at 1080p and the CPU heats up a lot though. Will post my overclock settings and benchmark data soon.
I found a 2600X on eBay for $189.99. I'm cursing myself for being broke right now.
Just check out my Mini Monstrosity build. I definitely milked its stock performance, I haven't even started overclocking it yet. The 580 does run warm, but its stock fan profile is a silent one: it won't even reach 50% fan speed the entire curve, then runs at 100% @ 90o C to reach a target temp of 75o C. I changed that to limits of 75o C and 60o C, respectively. I also lowered its top-end fan speeds by 250RPM (its dual fans spin, and howl a bit, at 3000RPM) and its acoustic limit by 100MHz. It runs like a champ with semi-aggressive fan profiles, as well as the case fans dumping that heat out like it were a supercharged Xbox One. The only concern would be power consumption, at that point.
I'm going all-AMD for my personal builds. I've always loved AMD and it's easier to sync everything using AMD's drivers than mixing and matching. Their driver updates tend to really optimize performance, whereas nVidia's updates are making my laptop crash during gameplay. Seriously, I went through this with the GTX 260M years ago and now my 1050Ti is tapping out on these updates.
I'm finding all sorts of VEGA 56/64 GPUs, frankly. I like nVidia, but I won't dabble with nVidia/AMD crossovers until after I do some Intel builds with both brands. The GTX 1060 doesn't really have the same lure for me as the 1050Ti, frankly. I wouldn't mind a 1070 or 1080 at some point, I'm not the biggest fan of the 1070Ti. The 1050Ti and 1080Ti seem like worthy bumps in performance if I'm not going with the RX 560 4GB and RX Vega 64, respectively. The 1060 3GB is nonsensical to me (1050Ti) and I already have an RX 580 8GB.
Given the extra two cores would do fine with productivity. I'm honestly thinking on getting the 2600X, with prices as low as $180US at times. I'd probably go to the Ryzen 7 when the 3rd gen comes around. I'm currently hunting VEGA 56/64 GPUs at the moment. Just might do a balls-to-the-wall upgrade to my current V1 build.
This is the new father-son bonding experience: building a PC. Sure, cars are definitely still a thing, but building a PC is pretty easy to get into. Love the build, btw.
I definitely recommend upgrading to the 2600 for the sake of taking full advantage of all 16 PCIe lanes for that 1060.
I'm actually finding Ryzen 7 2700 CPUs for roughly $20 over the 2600X's MSRP. I'm debating whether to make the jump to the 5 or the 7 at this point.