Nice build! I've always loved builds that meet needs well but are not super overkill. This has plenty of future proofing without going overboard and an easy upgrade path should the need arise. Well done.
I agree, and I've had pretty good luck with Nvidia cards on Linux. Unfortunately at the time this one was cheaper and I didn't do my homework. I was torn between this 460 and the Zotac 1050ti. Now I kinda wish I'd just spent a little more, but since I have it I'm determined to make it work haha. And that's half the fun of Linux anyway, right? All the problem-solving and learning opportunities!
I've bookmarked the video and will refer to it when I assemble the build. Cheers!
This is probably a dumb question, but I'm looking to get a purple LED strip for one of my builds and am considering this one. How is it powered? I couldn't really tell from the pictures.
Having built in this case myself, I feel your pain on managing cables in the Spike. I had that PSU and chose not to use it last minute. But I can definitely see the error of my ways now! I'd say you succeeded in your goal of cleaner Spike build. +1
I've been really curious about Raspberry Pi. Seems a lot of people use it for retro gaming or automations. How easy is it to set up and use for retro gaming? If it's easy enough to set up and is stable and can support split-screen co-op on older games I might have to try it out.
What all do you use it for and how has it worked out for you?
Additionally, I will likely be putting together a build over the next few months with an RX 460 and Linux, probably Ubuntu. What resolved your issue? I read the comment thread but wasn't sure if the video had helped.
A bottom-mounted PSU should also help with temps a little bit.
I've always loved the new-build-in-old-case builds though. It's part nostalgia and part seeing something that ain't new being repurposed instead of discarded. I'm curious how you mounted all the fans where there were no mount points though.
Now that's interesting. I guess it partly depends on what OP is planning to do with the build. Based on your testing some light gaming may be fine but video encoding may be too close to max output to be safe. Man, talk about going above and beyond to hook a guy up with an answer! That was really stand up.
Just curious, but how can he guarantee his existing PSU is still putting out 240W? Wouldn't it lose some power over time? If it's already an older model he may well be wise to replace it. Additionally, we don't know its efficiency, so it could be rated at 240W but only put out 70-75% of that.
Overall I'd say it's definitely safer to just bite the bullet and get a newer model.
I also have this case. It only has mounts for 1x120mm case fan in the front, and it is not positioned in front of the 3.5" drive cage that is removable, so your airflow will be slightly hampered from the get go. However, you could rig up a way to mount it with double-sided tape if you really want the extra intake.
Additionally, I would recommend getting a good dust filter kit for the top because that passive vent is enormous and the holes are pretty big. I love this case, but if did have some drawbacks. Oh, also. MSI GTX 1060 6GB Gaming OC is about 2mm too long to fit the second 3.5" drive cage in.
In what region are you located? Depending on shipping I might be interested in the 580 8gb.
Nice build! Hope he gets long use out of it.
+1 for Unturned!
Well, +1 for the build itself, but also an unofficial +1 for Unturned
Thanks for the response! Sometimes it seems like if the build ain't brand hammer new people are less likely to answer questions about it. Hope she's still enjoying her pc!
Are the case fans 3 or 4 pin? I couldn't find an answer to that.
Another +1 for Ubuntu!
Also for only building what you need! Seems kinda silly to me to see someone build a $2500 pc to just play MInecraft or League of Legends.
Just saw Newegg's mail in rebate brings their total down to $100 and have adjusted accordingly.
What region are you shipping from?
How has this case managed dust over time? It looks to be pretty well covered with mesh/filters on the vents. I'm strongly considering using it
Nice build! I've always felt like the term "console killer" was a misnomer because the primary advantages of a console are price and some level of ease of use, with the latter being more than debatable. So a $2500 award winning rig that can max all the AAA titles for years doesn't really address a console's strong suits of cheap and no-hassle gaming. It competes in a different class, if not sport, so it can't really "kill" a console.
But yours... man. Same price point, equal or better performance, and able to be a computer when not gaming. AND upgradable to keep it relevant at far less than a new console. THAT'S killing a console.
Only thing I could ask for would be a couple of pics under the hood.
How much for one of the GTX 670s?
Is the ram still available? I've been looking for an 8gb 1600 kit for my Harvester build
I like the decision not to get a gpu that's more than you need. There's definitely some sense in buying big now so you don't have to upgrade that part later as well, but there's nothing wrong with only getting what you need.
Another thing about when you upgrade is you'll have one of the most expensive parts already on hand should you decide to build a backup/test/htpc with a lower tdp. Or if you want to build one for someone with less computing needs.
So after about a year's use how is it holding up? Have you gotten more chances to game on it? I'm considering this case as well and am curious about how well it breathes.
Really like your build! Porygon was one of my favorites.
If you decide to remove the tape and it leaves residue behind, one way to scrape it off without scuffing it up too bad would be a flat razor window scraper. Not sure how well it would work for your needs but since the blade lays flat it doesn't scratch windows. Another option might be 4-ought steel wool. It's fine enough that you can actually use it to buff your windshield if you've cleaned it of dirt and other abrasive particles. Hopefully it comes away clean, but if you have to get in there with a little elbow grease those are two possibilities.
I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 in mine as well. When I first started piddling with 14.04 under the hood it was to update the graphics driver as well, and I broke my system. I didn't expect to be able to because it was just a normal settings submenu but I followed a tutorial too quickly and missed a trick.
It's a very easy to use OS that doesn't require much tinkering to get it set up but you can still break it and lose your data pretty easily even without opening up the terminal and using commands.
On topic though I've been curious about this guy from the first time I saw it. I love a nice black aesthetic to a build but I also like a sleek white aesthetic so this card has my interest. How does you like it?
You can edit the price settings in either the parts list and then re-load it into the post showing your build or (I think) edit it straight from the post of your build. It'd also be kinda cool to get a couple more good shots of the inside of your machine with it off to see what it looks like.
As for cable management, you may or may not be able to hide them behind the motherboard tray and along the cage/skeleton of the case and drive bays. I just put one together a couple of weeks ago that I haven't posted yet but it was in a Cooler Master Elite 120 for my folks. The cage the shell went on had a few holes in it to run a zip tie. Look around for little slots along the cages for the drive bays and the case's skeleton itself. You may also be able to tuck a few cables in behind the motherboard tray, though with a mini-ITX (like the Elite 120) or micro-ATX that may not be possible.
Ultimately, you may have to go back and get a modular PSU. This Seasonic seems to be a good PSU. You may want to go for one with 650W instead of 550 though, since your parts list estimated TDP is close to 450. However, that one is gold certified, so only having about 100W overhead may be sufficient if you're not overclocking.
Thanks! Is there a way to sense the PSU temps? This machine will be running Linux so it will probably have PSensor to detect CPU temps but other than an infrared scanner is there a way to know the PSU temp?
Seems like most everyone just whiffed on the part where you said you were planning to upgrade. I like it man. I also got some advice on my first build that seemed to miss the part where I said I wanted to make upgrades as easy as possible. Changing out the PSU won't be the easiest part of your upgrades, but I think it was smart to get the motherboard you want upfront.
Have you made any upgrades to it since you published?
Realized it may help to have a little more on the specs. For the part list the estimated wattage is sitting at about 150W. I'd initially purchased the Corsair CX430 but had read some whispers that maybe it wasn't such good quality anymore, but I also saw where someone used it in a very low wattage build and because his/her wattage requirements were so low the consensus was that the CX430 would probably be okay. But I've also read of some people having their components fried. Can anyone shed any light on that? And if I'm only going to need about 150W is the CX430 still sufficient?
I'm very seriously considering getting the CX450M, but if it isn't necessary I'd prefer to allocate those funds elsewhere, as I'm currently working on a build for my brother as well.
I see. I guess my rig isn't as future-ready as I'd thought, haha. But then I AM running a 750TI for my gpu, so I haven't been expecting to max out any games
I'm running the 8350 in my build. I don't really play many newer titles but I have yet to see any age showing in mine, and I don't OC. What games has it slowed down on?
This is one of those builds that looks like it would serve its purpose very well and shows some creativity but gets overlooked because it doesn't come with a price tag in the thousands. Great build! That's some pretty crisp cabling too. How's it doing now that you've had it running for a couple of months?
Oh, and by productivity I don't mean anything to do with video editing etc or number crunching.
It's a basic home productivity build with no windows in the case so aesthetics don't really matter but longevity and stability do. The psu mount is on top but I don't think it has a vent directly above it. I'm in the U.S. and would like to spend ~$50. I'm seeing a lot of recommendations for the Corsair CX450. I'm also considering the SeaSonic SSR 550 RM. It's pretty overkill for this build but it only costs a little more and is also 80+ gold and semi modular. Also, I've been slowly working on another build that would be more appropriate for that extra 100W for my brother and was considering using it in that build if I find a good lower power psu for this build (and the SeaSonic is also good of course). What are your thoughts on the SSR?
I have this model. It has proven rather difficult to get working with a Linux system. You may have to do a few hours' research into it if you're not running Windows, but from all my searching to fix mine it appears it typically works well with Windows right out of the box.
I'm still running a 750 ti in mine and have no complaints either. I'm not trying to play AAA games though, so I don't really need that kind of performance. I got my 750 right before the 950s came out so that kinda sucked, but that little guy's been great for me.
Been a while since I posted this. Just occurred to me that it might would've helped to put the specs. My laptop is essentially the same hdd. So for those who are curious of just how slim Linux feels after Windows, here's a single case example. Win7 boot time: 48s; Ubuntu 14.04 boot time: 25s.
I did that once too. Everything's a learning experience though :)
That's a real shame. It's never good to have a project end without success. On the other hand there's always something to try, though it may change the build so much that it's not really the same thing anymore...
I like them too. It's always nice to see a build that was put together from the leftovers and castoffs and made into a functioning computer again.
It's also fun to see how cheaply you can put one together
It's a fun project to tackle too. Shame she's so far away that you can't really sink your teeth into it.
When I was using it in my gaming rig it was pretty noticeable. I noticed it being better able to handle multi-tab browsing and multiple applications (media playback, web browsing, and data transfer between external drives)
Granted, it's still a much lower frequency than we've gotten used to, but considering that it's a single/dual core it's a very competent cpu for this use.
Wow, thanks for the love folks! Honestly I didn't expect anyone to notice a salvage rig like this let alone take the time to comment on it.
One other thing of note: I couldn't find the actual hdd, but it's the same model just the laptop version, as you can see it screwed into mounts on the floor of the case.
That was actually the reason I chose the Sempron 145 when I was doing my first build, which was later to be my gaming rig. I wanted to make a backup from the starter parts I had to use to get it up and running and caught a rumor that this little guy had about even odds of having a disabled 2nd core. I figured for the price ($30) it'd be well worth the risk given that as a backup and web browser it wouldn't matter much if it only had one core.
Thanks! I don't think it would run even Windows 7 well but running linux it boots up way faster than my Win7 laptop.
Indeed it is! This case was a little too narrow to stuff them behind the motherboard panel so I just zip tied them to the drive trays to be out of the way.
When they made the Athlon X2s they overproduced or otherwise ended up with overstock, so rather than having them waste space they reconfigured the X2s into Semprons to shift them. I reckon it must be better to make less money on it than to lose money from unusable warehouse space. So if your board can run it and you win the silicon lottery you can sometimes unlock another core on some models like this one.
That said, it's proven to be a little more tricky to unlock the 2nd core with this board than it was with the board in my first build. But that's okay, because this computer won't ever really need the extra power.
I checked 8-pin and 24-pin power connectors and both were seated firmly. I reconnected them both but that didn't work or change anything. Still working on other possible problems, but I'm beginning to think it's toast.
Thanks JAShadic and Stuart_Munto. Both suggestions were things I hadn't tried.
Thanks for the comments everybody! I tried everything I could find and think of and it ultimately was more of an ID: 10T error. Turned out when setting up the partition table I had it set up with the boot partition for a uefi but the motherboard runs on bios. For any future Ubuntu users with the same problem, you have to make sure your bootloader agrees with your motherboard (bios vs. uefi) and designate the drive itself for the bootloader, not a partition within the drive. I didn't know that and it cost me three days. Don't remember having to designate the proper bootloader and location when I installed the same os on the solid state drive for my gaming rig, but then that board runs on a uefi.
Anyway it's all good now and it seems to be enjoying its role as a web browsing backup pc. Thanks again for taking the time to read and answer. Cheers!
Great build! I've also been wanting to do a wooden pc for a while now. Seeing yours I really like the idea of mounting it into a drawer. Seems like I always have at least one drawer I keep a bunch of useless sh*t in anyway so it'd give me a good reason to clean it out and put it to good use.
One question though: How would you go about an optical drive? If I did this it'd be as an htpc. Would the drive read properly if you mounted it vertically in the drawer to open its tray upwards?
Great build! As folks have said, your cable management's pretty good. I did the same thing once I got close to finished. Glad to know I'm not the only one who couldn't wait!
I'm considering building in this case next time. How was it to work in? Also if you've made any upgrades since posting.