Very Good Job on this Build! Really like the choice of parts and Colors.
One Question regarding the GPU: Is 4GB of GDDR5 fine enough for 1080p Gaming? I am considering an RX 580, and plan to hook it up to a 1080p, 144hz Freesync Monitor.
Very Impressive Build!
I'd call it "The Polar Phoenix", as it has that Arctic Look, while Acknowledging AMD's rise from the ashes.
No official plans are in motion yet, but I'm considering selling the GTX 970 to a friend, and then selling the rest of the Desktop (Exceptions include both HDDs) to a local computer store to get some money that can be used to either make a Ryzen Mini-ITX build or purchase a Entry-Level Gaming laptop.
I started this Build in August 2016.
The Pentium G4560 came out January of this Year, So I wasn't able to use that for this build. In addition, That adds extra costs to buy a H110 or B150 Motherboard, which is about $50-70, so taking that path would've set me back about $125.
Very Impressive Job with this build!
Love the Components you've chosen. The A10-7870K should give you great E-Sports Performance for the Price, the High-Speed Dominator RAM will no doubt keep the APU fed.
Some Questions though:
1. Why Blue for the Paint Instead of Red? AMD Builds tend to favor Red and Black Color Schemes. (Intel Builds too, but it varies on the Motherboard.)
2. What Type of R7 250 Did you use to test Dual Graphics? It might make more sense to get the R7 250 Ultimate from Sapphire if it's still available, as it's fanless and shouldn't make any extra unwanted noise.
Otherwise, Great work on this!
BTW, have you overclocked the G3258 on this board? If so, what results did you get?
Great work on this build!
This should be featured, especially since AMD Builds don't generally get much love.
Great Budget Intel Build, Dude!
Just one question:
I'm planning to do a similar Budget build, but with a much older AM3 Quad-Core Phenom II X4 945. How is your Framerates in Games with the Visiontek 480, and should I worry a bit about my FPS due to the CPU Limit? (I don't like using the term "Bottleneck", I go for CPU or GPU Limit)
For your first build, you did an Excellent Job! You have something that can play a lot of games at 1080p at Medium, High, and even Ultra Settings!
However, I would not advise putting the RX 460 in Crossfire. The Performance improvement is not going to be major compared to getting a better single GPU. Maybe look at the RX 490 when it becomes available.
Otherwise, Kudos for a Great First Build!
A Good Starting Build, I must say!
However, I would suggest the RX 460 4GB over the 370. You'd get a great performance improvement for your MOBA games (1080p on High or Ultra would be Possible), and may get you interested in recording your own gameplays.
Nevertheless, Nice work!
Impressive Build for what you made! Great work!
As for the PSU Rants, that is up to you. I would suggest just keeping an eye on it for now.
However, 300W should be enough for what you are putting in this.
Seriously, I look forward to AMD builds, since it seems like almost everyone is showing off their Intel Builds with their Fancy GTX 900 or 1000 Cards now.
Just ignore the Haters, You've got yourself a high-level build here!
Very Nice Build.
Glad to finally see someone try out the AMD A10-7890K.
BTW, did you test the system out before giving it to him? I'd like to know how it was doing in terms of the games he was playing on it.
This is an absolute BadAss Build you have here! Love the Black and Yellow Look!
Also props for doing an AMD Build in this one! What do you plan to do with this A10-7890K Build?
Otherwise, Excellent work!
Pretty Good Build for your needs. If you ever need any extra CPU or GPU Power, go for the A10-7890K in the future. The extra 2 Cores (Or Modules) will be worth it if you want to play some of the more demanding games down the road.
Overall, Nice work!
I'd suggest since you've already gotten the i3, just jump to the i7 Down the road, Unless you aren't doing streaming or Video editing, since those Hyper-Threaded Cores won't do much for gaming.
Nevertheless, looking forward to your update down the road!
You've got a good build here to start with! I also cannot wait for the RX 400 Series of GPUs.
Another thing: I would suggest upgrading to an i5 or i7 sometime down the road, since a lot of games are going to demand Quad-Cores to run them properly.
Ignore the Intel Haters and Cruel Jokers, This is one masterpiece of a Build!
That FX-9590 Should serve you well for the next 5 Years. And the Cooler you chose is excellent. Try to get it to 5.0 Ghz. if possible.
That MSI R9 390 is one of my favorite Video Cards on the market today. Destroys games at 1080p, and it trades blows with the GTX 970.
And the Phanteks Case makes the build look incredible. I can only see the PCI-E Cables in the picture, which means your Cable Management is Top-Notch.
My Only Questions are with the RAM and SSD:
Are you Video Editing and Streaming with this Build? Because 32GB is Overkill if you're just Gaming.
Are you sure you'll only need 500 GB of SSD Space? Or do you plan to add more Drives later on?
Otherwise, this is one kick-*** Build! +1 from me!
I gotta hand it to you, this is very good for what you put together!
Though if I had to suggest one thing, It would be Upgrading your RAM from 4GB to 8GB. 8 should give your computer more breathing room to handle some of the more demanding games down the road.
Otherwise, Nice work!
I did do some searching through the site earlier before. However, it did not pop up when labeling FM2+, nor when I used any search filters until recently.
What a Build, dude! You've got a ton of Performance packed into that CM130.
Honestly, While you do have a very Powerful GPU in the R9 390, If all You're going to be doing is Gaming on this thing, I see No reason to Upgrade your CPU right now. The X4 860K can still play a lot of Current-Gen Titles at MAX settings at 1080p with the 390. There may be a few exceptions, but otherwise it is still a capable CPU for $75.
One suggest I could give you is to get an Aftermarket CPU Cooler, and try Overclocking the CPU to 4.5 Ghz. That should give you some improvements.
However, If you are Absolutely sure that you need to upgrade the CPU, I would suggest waiting for ZEN when it becomes available in Q4 of this Year. With Skylake only being a tiny-bit powerful than Haswell, I see no point in upgrading just yet.
Otherwise, Very Awesome Build! +1 from Me.
Very Impressive Build! +1
It sounds more like a Motherboard issue. Check your BIOS to make sure Dual-Channel Settings are enabled. Otherwise, you'll probably want to contact Gigabyte regarding the problems with your Motherboard.
Also, Maybe try to install a different RAM Module into the first or second RAM Slots. That could help to figure out if it's the motherboard or Memory Sticks that are the issue.
There's really no sense in buying the 860K now that he has the A10-7850K.
Both have the exact same Quad-Core, 3.7 GHz Clock-Speed, just the A10 has the integrated GPU, while the 860K does not.
Besides, should somehow the 390X Fail, he does, at least, have the iGPU as a backup.
Ignore the Bottlenecking Crybabies below, because straight up, this is still a Nice build, both in terms of looks and Performance.
The A10 can always be used as a backup iGPU should the 390X somehow cease to function. Besides, you already have 8GB of RAM, which is plenty enough for gaming. Though if you plan to get 16GB you will have to replace the whole kit.
Overall, this is an absolute 1080p/1440p Game-Destroying Machine.
Excellent Build, +1 From me!
Wow, You upgraded to a Silverstone SFX PSU. Excellent!
When you get the chance, you can either expand your HDD Space.....
Or even get a discrete GPU. Again, you can either go the Dual-Graphics Route with the R7 240 or 250:
Video Card | XFX Radeon R7 250 2GB Core Edition Video Card | $82.24 @ Amazon
Or get a Low Profile GTX 750ti (There are two):
Video Card | Gigabyte GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card | $122.98 @ Newegg
Video Card | MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card | $122.99 @ Newegg
The Choice is up to you.
I'm going to be honest here, I do like your Build.
It's compact, fits all the hardware you need with room with future upgrading potential, and I have no complaints with the parts you chose.
However, due to the Low Profile size of your Case, your GPU Upgrade options are very limited. The most powerful low-profile discrete GPU you can buy at this point is a GTX 750ti. However, you can also try out Dual-Graphics later with a R7 240 or 250 if you want to. (Don't get the 250X or higher, it will not work with dual graphics. And make sure it uses DDR3 Memory, I've heard that a GDDR5 R7 250 or 240 will not work in DG)
Also, You don't have a Hard Drive in that system now. You sure you only need 250GB of space? or are you planning to add one later?
And One more thing: I have no complaints about your PSU, since it is from Corsair, a very well-reputable company for PSU's. However, Should you decide to upgrade to a discrete GPU or plan to use Dual-Graphics, I suggest you upgrade your PSU. I would suggest a 500W PSU that is Semi- or Fully-Modular, and has a 80+ rating or above. Your Build is fine as is, but should you want to upgrade later, start with the PSU.
Nevertheless, you have here an excellent PC. +1 from me.
I agree. Besides, this build still has potential if the user is willing to invest in it.
I'm guessing your keyboard is broken, So I will say this:
It is Better to have your CPU limit the GPU than the GPU to limit the CPU.
Let me give an example:
This build, which features a AMD Athlon X4 860K and a GTX 970, will most definitely Outperform a build with an Intel Core i7-4790K with a GTX 750ti.
While it doesn't make much sense to combine a weak CPU with a Powerful GPU, it will perform better in games than a System with a Powerful CPU, and a Weak GPU.
That's what I was saying! Geez, everyone in these comments section seems to have lost the idea of "Creativity". It's not the best build, but should play most games with no issues.
Even more hatred for People's curiosity.... Sheesh. SMH at the others.
Okay, You have here what I consider a 1080p Gaming Killer Machine.
The AMD Athlon X4 860K is a Good budget Quad-Core Chip. It will most definitely handle Gaming and some light-Video editing no problem.
A good choice. Enermax makes really good Computer components, and the Liquimax II is no exception. This should give you great overclocking Headroom. I recommend 4.5Ghz, as that should give a great boost for your CPU.
Okay, I love this Motherboard as well. Plenty of SATA 3 Ports, Great Audio Booster, and the look is amazing. Cannot argue much with this. However, I will notify you that this motherboard supports Crossfire ONLY, you cannot SLI on this Motherboard.
32 GB is Questionable. 16GB is Plenty for both Video Editing, Gaming, and Streaming. It's overkill, but I won't object it.
This is where I scratch my head. I know SSD's have the fast Read and Write, but in the end, the $ per GB is still very high. I would have kept the 128GB SSD, but substituted the 960GB SSD for a 1TB HDD. You save a ton of Money, and have almost the same amount of space as you have currently.
I can't argue much with this choice. It will easily tear through almost any game at 1080p. Ignore the Crybabies in the comments about bottlenecks. It won't effect you much Unless the game is CPU-Dependent, which is Very Unlikely. Most games today rely on the GPU, and the 970 will handle it no problem.
I'm guessing you picked this for the looks, and I can't argue with that either. This is a stunning Case, and should hold most of your components no problem and provide some upgrade room later.
It is fine for what you have currently, and should handle any future upgrades.
You have here a Great 1080p Gaming Machine. It should handle almost any game at 1080p with little to no issues. Best of all, It looks great, and should last for a good while.
+1 from me. -1 to every hateful comment.
Geez, all these hateful comments. It's about time someone was honest without being biased.
First off, This build is not too bad. You basically have an entry-level Gaming PC with a lot of bling and potential for future upgrades.
The FX-6350 isn't a bad choice here. You have six cores at 3.9Ghz with a good upgrade path. You can upgrade to a 9590 or 8350 Later and expect a decent improvement. Besides, your motherboard has a 990FX Chipset, so it will support the FX-9590, if you want to go that route later.
Great choice, this will easily keep the 6350 Cool, and offer plenty of room for overclocking the 6350. Give it a overclock to 4.5Ghz and you should see a great improvement.
This Motherboard is overkill, but as I said before, it has the 990FX Chipset, so you can upgrade the CPU to a FX-9590 later and it will work.
8GB of RAM is a good start. you can add another 8GB later if you need it for a total of 16GB. Good job on this choice.
Okay, This is where I will agree. Going with a SSD over a single HDD isn't a good idea, nevertheless you do have that speedy boot-up time. Still, make it a priority to get a 1TB Hard Drive or Later ASAP. You won't get far with 120GB of SSD Space.
Good Entry Level Card. the R7 265 Should handle most entry-level games at 1080p no problem. But do expect it to struggle on the more demanding games like Crisis 3, Farcry 4, and The Witcher 3. Upgrade this GPU When you can, as I do expect it to lose its performance over the next few years.
You got an excellent case. The H440 should be able to handle any future upgrades later down the road, whether it is for your CPU, GPU, or having More Hard Drives and SSD's, I could go on.
Okay, This Power Supply is Overkill. You shouldn't really exceed 850W at any point unless you are doing a Crossfire or SLI Build (In this case, you are not). Nevertheless, it will handle all the components you have here now and any potential upgrades in the future.
It's Windows 10, and I really can't argue with your choice.
Wireless Network Adapter:
If you are using only a B,G, or N Connection, this is fine, however, AC is new, and you do not have support for it with this adapter, so look to upgrade this soon.
Your build does have a lot of potential for the future. But what you have here is basically an Entry-Level Gaming PC, which isn't bad, but there could have been better choices. Nevertheless, I do appreciate curiosity and everyone's tastes when It comes to a Gaming build, and you certainly have at least made a start.
+1 from me.
Dang, I was going to start with an Entry-Level GPU since It was going to be one of my first Builds, and I thought the MSI R9 270X GAMING ITX would be awesome to start with. I may have to look at the R9 380X When it becomes available (It's announced for a release in November) or the 390.
The main reason I want to use an AMD Processor is simply because...... Well, I want to prove people wrong. Lately AMD's been getting a ton of S*** for their 'Lack of Performance' on their CPU side. That's why I've been so fascinated in AMD's APU's and Athlon X4 CPU's. I wanted to stream on an Athlon X4 CPU and show people it can stream, contrary to what almost every Intel Fanboy says.
16GB was my target when it came to RAM. So having it is extremely essential.
I was planning to get a sort of SDD+HDD Combo, Like having maybe a 250GB SSD with a 1TB HDD to start, then add more storage when I needed it.
And Yes, I wanted to go Mini ITX with my AMD Build. That seems to be where AMD's CPUs excel at, Gaming capability on the go.
I already have an awesome microphone. The Modmic 4.0! Used it for a few months and it is incredible.
I appreciate the suggestions, more would be appreciated!
Excellent Build. Everything in this build comes together perfectly for a AMD Black/Red Build.
Quick Question: How does the Athlon X4 860K perform in terms of Video Editing and Streaming? I have been sitting on this CPU for a full year, and I'm still skeptical.
Awesome work on this build.
Two Questions though:
Why the GTX 960 over the R9 380? Just personal preference or something else?
How does the Athlon X4 860K perform in terms of Video Editing and Streaming? I have been sitting on this CPU for a full year, and I'm still skeptical.
Another Excellent APU Build. Well done dude!
I am so tempted to build an AMD ITX Build. :P
Very Good choice of parts for this build. It makes for an excellent causal/basic internet use Computer, however Gaming-Wise, you will need to turn down several settings to get that 60FPS Target.
Otherwise, Pretty Good. +1.
Pretty good starting build, if you ask me.
There's no harm in upgrading your CPU Later to the FX-8320. You get 8 Cores, and can easily OC it to 4.0 Ghz or higher later down the road.
You also definitely want to get a better CPU Cooler with the 8320. a Cooler Master Hyper T3 or a Geminii M4 will do.
I'm afraid you may have to upgrade your PSU Later if you want to support a 390X or a Fury or Nano for good measure. Remember that AMD Systems tend to use over 450W of Power.
Excellent build though, and I hope these suggestions help you out.
Now this is a Freaking Bad*** Build!
Hats off to you for an awesome build. Would love to see benchmarks of this!
I agree with Upgrading the Motherboard, since the A68H Chipset supports Only 4 SATA 6 Gbp/s Ports, where as the MSI A88XM Gaming will support 8.
However, your Current PSU supports only 6 SATA Power Connectors, Meaning you will only be able to power 6 3.5" or 2.5" Drives. You ONLY need to upgrade your PSU if you exceed that.
I don't think it would be necessary to add any extra SSD's. I would say one SSD for your OS is plenty enough. Just put the rest of your games on a 1TB HDD (I would suggest a 1TB WD Blue or Black Drive) and have other Hard Drives be used for the Mass Storage of your Video Files. (WD Red drives have good reviews for Mass Storage, I would recommend those for your Video files)
Whoa, I don't think it would be necessary for you to upgrade the CPU, Motherboard, or RAM at all. Both should be fine for your needs at this point.
Really, the only thing you should focus on is the GPU. The A10-7850K is still a fine Quad-Core Processor, and I would not see much benefit right now in dropping back a generation to the FX-8350.
If you were to drop back to the FX CPU's, you will be wasting tons more money on outdated architecture and be getting little to no benefit for the money you spend.
Instead, I would only focus on upgrading your GPU. The R9 390X Would be the best bet for upgrading, as it can handle 1080p No Problem for $400.
Also, Have you bothered Overclocking? Since you have the A10-7850K, I'm sure you can easily OC it to maybe 4.5Ghz and see a decent improvement.
I will also leave a GPU Suggestion here:
Video Card | MSI Radeon R9 390X 8GB Video Card | $399.99 @ Amazon
Well, for what you've got, It's a start.
I would suggest upgrading your GPU to a R9 390X later down the road. After all, Most of the parts you currently have aren't too bad.
The Parts in the Build? Not too shabby.
Again, I'm still searching around for my CPU of choice, and the A10-7870K Has been on my watch.
I would say upgrade that 370 to a 390X later and Oh Boy, this build becomes a KickA** Gaming machine!
But the Looks are absolutely awesome. All Black and Red, this thing of beauty is stunning!
Awesome work again, Ninja!
Excellent ITX Build. Quick Question: How does the i3-4370 perform? I am considering any i3, i5, or a Xeon for a Gaming/Video Editing/Streaming Build.
Dude, Disregard the Idiots below (or above) who are crying and being butt hurt over the parts you chose. That Build looks absolutely stunning! Take that to LAN Parties and major events, and I think you can impress some people.
How is the A10-7870K in terms of Performance? I've been considering it for a Streaming build, however I am still unsure of it's performance overall.
And while many would frown at the 270X Crossfire, I'm fine with it. It should be very snappy at 1080p.
Yeah. Hence I am looking at anything in the LGA1150 Socket. I'm sure some companies will still make motherboards for the socket for maybe another few years.
Okay Just did that. It doesn't seem that different from the Graphics on a Core i5 or i7, so I will still look at the Xeons for possible buys.
I ruled out the 6700K Due to the expensive price of DDR4 Memory at this point, along with the price of the Z170 Motherboards and the fact that there is only one Z170 Mini ITX board (That would be EVGA's Z170 Stinger at $200).
However, I do appreciate your suggestion. The 4790K is probably one of the more favorable ones I'm considering.
Oh, I did forget about the Xeons.
I originally ruled them out since most of them do not have Intel Quick Sync for streaming and Video encoding, but at the same time, I was unsure if Intel Quick Sync was mandatory for a Streaming PC or not.
Nevertheless, I have been considering the E3-1230 V3, 1231 V3, 1245 V3 and 1246 V3.
Only concern was the P in the Intel HD Graphics P4600. I didn't know exactly what it means.