ahh crud i didnt even think to get pliers to fix it. crud. well dangit, i could have been rocking my new rig these past 3 weeks..... blehhhhhh. i took a picture of it and i probably could have tried to fix it 11 of the corner tips of the heat sinks were bent on mine. i guess i could have tried to straighten it out myself.

my first thoughts when i saw it were, ok im not an engineer so im going to return this.

yeah funny story i had the cryorig h5 recommended to me originally on this site, but then loads of ppl said go with the mugen. but yeah im gonna order the macho rev b now from amazon. thanks buddy

i know right. they are brown......bleh. also,thanks for the macho rev b recommendation. im gonna order it now.

Just saw pics of both, im scared . but looking further it seems like the mainstream air coolers have tiny heat sinks half the size of this thing and the mugen 5. Guess its all about marketing. A lot of the top air cooler lists im reading are all noctua and cooler master etc but their are tiny and the 2 fans make em look bigger than they actually are

ok check out this deal, its better than the one above; its 32 inches 144hz 1440p 299$

https://www.microcenter.com/product/510553/32gk650f-b-32-wqhd-144hz-dp-hdmi-freesync-gaming-led-monitor

its 50$ more than ur build choice BUT 32 inches > 24 inches, 1440p > 1080p

here is one 144hz, 1440p, 299$

https://www.microcenter.com/product/503505/kg271u-27-wqhd-144hz-hdmi-dp-freesync-gaming-led-monitor

thats a great build buddy. though i think with the 1070TI you may be able to get 1440p (i.e. 2K) resolution, so you may want to get a 2K monitor. if you really want more than 60hz, the 2K monitors can, while on sale hit 299$ for 75+hz at 1440p. since u have the power for it, i'd say just save a bit more cash and get a 2k high refresh rate monitor since they are getting cheaper and cheaper these days.

this is my build below:

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well you can always buy some rgb strips off of amazon and put then in DIY. you can also get some RGB fans later down the road, like for a rear exhaust or sth.

yeah tokyo or osaka would be great to visit. or seoul. seoul has the same thing going with all its neon lights, and its cheaper and in my opinion more fun than tokyo.

to me its kinda like:

1. do you have friends over that you want to impress with your PC? (or more importantly would they be impressed/happy/excited to see the PC Ram lit up in lights?) I mean if so, you could also get a lava lamp too. that helps with company etc
2. does it make you happy to look at your rig while you are playing games or just in general and see the RGB lights on your PC?

If your answer is yes, then yeah i'd spend the extra money on RGB, if you have it within your budget. But if you have to decide between performance or RGB, even wanting to impress ppl or be happy with the looks, i'd go with performance.

in foreign countries like japan and china that i visited, they have sooooo many neon lights. it makes them happy and excited to walk around the city, buy stuff etc. so besides residential areas, lots and lots of places, basically wall to wall could be lit up in lights. so i understand the desire for rgb, so if it makes you happy or excited while you play or surf, then yes go for it.

i went with it because when i bought it as of 2 weeks ago, there were benchmarks and reviews available for it, and the vrm heatsinks had been tested. the other board i was comparing it against, the phantom gaming line, i had read from multiple sources that its heatsinks had no improvement over the z370. many of the z390 boards have not been properly benchmarked or had their temps tested. but the pro carbon has gotten tested and reviewed enough for me.

i was also considering the taichi, but i read user reviews and they weren't as positive as the pro carbons were.

i also considered the aorus master or gaming i can't remember. the one that was 190$ish at the time. the user had said he tested the heatsinks but he was the only one i had seen who had tested it, so i didnt have any second source as a review on the temps.

This one seems to have had solid reviews from all around the 'net. so i bought it for my build. haven't booted up yet tho.

MSI - MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

well i went with the 750w cuz i hope someday to do further upgrades and maybe those will require 750W hehehe. ok ill stick with just the 1 rear exhaust fan. thanks!

thanks for the info! I ended up going with the MSI - MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard, but let me ask you, since you really know your stuff, in regards to thermal paste application do you just put a pea-sized amount? 75% of the videos i saw said to do that, other ones said put more so it will cover the entire area.

just wondering though, does it come with thermal paste?

ugh yeah so this is the last part of my build, besides the monitor i need. mannnnnn the taichi went up in price 40 bucks hahah. i read the AORUS has 12 phases so thats a plus. i may end up going with that... not sure. i mean the taichi is now like 238 so not sure if its worth the 40 extra bucks...bleh i wish i knew when these will be tested.

ok i went with the mugen thanks for the tip man! its bought and paid for and on the way!

try for the 2070s.

ok i took out the cryo h7 and replaced it with the mugen 5. feeling good now!

ok noted, i've replaced it in my build with the mugen 5 hehehehe

thanks for the replies. this is good info. for now I have slotted the taichi board in there but will wait on those 3 reviews before i pull the trigger. awesome

so you aren't a fan of the cryorig H7? it was a suggestion from another user here. hmmmm what would be the major pluses of the mugen vs the cryorig one i have listed? I'm open to swapping out.

i agree here with the reply mentioned here, that if you compromise graphics settings, (which I do not want to do) you can get 144FPS with the 2070. So I think the answer to your overall question is yes, the 2070 will be able to provide 144FPS at 1440p for the next 2 years if you dont mind turning down graphics settings.

but my follow up question is, how low are you willing to go settings wise? High? Medium? Low? I think if you want a clearer answer you should wait for a ton of benchmarks to come out for the 2070 and see what people are getting on youtube with high or custom settings as opposed to everything being full ultra.

honestly man, just look at the 1080's benchmarks, the 2070 should be pretty close performance wise to the 1080. so that would actually provide you with proof.

Side Note: the crystal ball question for myself is can you keep it on ultra while getting 75+FPS on most games in 2 years with either card? (I can tell u the 2070 won't be able to) Cuz the 1080TI can keep avg on 90-100FPS for alot of recent games but that may dip a ton in the next 2 years.

you doing this build for just one pc and plan to sell the rest yourself or buying in bulk for a business or mining?

ahh ok. thanks for your input. im going to stick with the g2 then, since its not worth the dip in quality just to potentially* save 40 bucks haha.

put something in manual then, cuz it makes people think like the build is an uber bargain beyond what it already is imho haha. jk, up to you :)

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QNX2FT/asrock-z370-extreme4-atx-lga1151-motherboard-z370-extreme4

Check that out for awesome value

The asrock extreme Z370 is around 150$ and is viewed as all around great value. Im planning to get that one for my new build

ok just saw some new videos. they aren't being tested on the new chips yet cuz they arent out yet. so wait for the CPU that you bought to be tested i guess with those boards in question. i even saw one vid where the new mobo performed worse than its Z370 version. pasted it here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_vKN14OScE

man i dunno, you might wanna wait until there are more youtube reviews.

ahh man you need to include the CPU price, even if you own it already

I agree completely. But since im doing a new build that thankfully has 100to200 bucks left in the budget im gonna pay the extra 100 bucks and get a rtx2080 instead of the gti 1080ti

ok cool! i haven't done a build in 5 years and my last one my friend recommended the parts, and it was a form factor, so i can't re-use the case cuz its too tiny.

ok awesome man, i added in those fans into my build now. thanks for the confirmation and fan recommendation!

try this one:

its ips, free sync, 2K (2560 x 1440), 144hz just at 350 euros. it may not be available at that price outside the u.s. but just an idea that stuff exists at that range.

http://www.microcenter.com/product/478859/xf270hu-27-wqhd-144hz-dvi-hdmi-dp-freesync-gaming-led-monitor

this 2nd one is cheaper, but is 75hz

http://www.microcenter.com/product/482600/l24q-20-238-wqhd-75hz-hdmi-dp-led-monitor

yeah IPS is the future as well. i've been holding out for a long time, but i've seen a ton of sales. if its in your budget, there are widescreen curved 33+ inch monitors, 120hz, 1440p, IPS, g-sync for around 900$. But if you don't want widescreen curved, you can get that setup for sub-500$ if you want for the right sale if you are ok with freesync.

what was your budget?

(but definitely don't look at 2K as being 60hz only hehe. 4K yes, because over 60hz is too expensive, but 2K over 75hz nowadays is reasonable, like around 200$)

Yeah i read online NVME is a new technology that is much faster than Sata BUT i also read the NVME needs a compatible motherboard in order to access that tech fully. though that was just what i read in an article. so make sure your mobo can take full advantage of the nvme technology.

it might be used or open box haha

Get a 1440p with 75hz or 120hz. that is the sweet spot. 1080 is a thing of the past, well its on the way out at least.

Is that ram higher performance or just less expensive than the one i picked?

Thanks man, i made a few updates based on ur recommendations. One big difference is the i5 8600k is onsale nearby me so im gonna get that instead of an i7 and i switched to the z370 mobo since it allowed for overclocking. I did follow ur recommendations and changed the power supply, case, and dropped the optical.

And upped to 1tb, good idea hehehe. I revised my OP to reflect that. Sorry for typos on my phone

check out my build, it is waaaayyy faster and is below 1500$ if you take out the $960 monitor i want.

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Well. I had a big debate about this. freesync monitors are cheaper, but I think the Nvidia GTX cards offer more bang for your buck than the AMD GPUs. and i think there was a rumor that some guys got nvidia cards to work with freesync.....i honestly wouldnt hamstring the build for freesync hehehe.

not sure man. i dont see many parts I wanted on sale that day. there were alot of TVs, and general purpose PC stuff.