K800 was released in 2010 I believe and I picked mine up late 2011. I also picked up the K750 at the same time, and actually wound up using that for almost 6 years.
There's quit a bit of difference between the K800 and the K360. not all membrane/scissor switchs are the same (just as not all mechanical switches are the same). The K360 is very mush with horrible key stroke comfortably. The k800 has a much nicer feel to the press, which is what I love in keyboards. a super soft press and an instant return with 0 noise. The K360 has far more... jelly... in the key presses.
It's also not a full size keyboard, and the keys are themselves are a tad smaller than the K800. Which is farking annoying.
But besides the K800 being a full size keyboard, it also has much better build construction. The palm rest and the upward curvature of the keyboard makes for some very comfortable typing. The K360 is just a flat keyboard that uses legs as a riser and no palm rest. Which for me is a big negative.
The K800 also has some really nice features. The addition of NiHM AA batteries gives it a bit longer life even with the really nice backlit keys. The K800 also includes Logitech's comfortable Perfect Stroke key design (This is the curvature of the keys from front to back ). The back lighting is amazing and will adjust to the amount of light in the room. When not in use the keyboard will turn itself off but comes back to life at the press of a button (with 0 lag) or a wave of the hand. That last part is by far one of my favorite parts of the keyboard. It can be used to wake your PC (and pretty sure it can be used as a turn on function, but never actually figure it out, plus I use the sleep function far more than I actually turn my system off). It is SO satisfying to come home, swipe my hand over the keyboard (don't have to actually touch it) and my system fires up.
My one gripe with the keyboard after a couple years , as I already stated in my previous post, I wish there was an always on and always on the brightest setting when plugged in.
I'm sure if I were to give it more thought and go get the technical data sheets I could find a lot more reasons as to why this keyboard is worth the price I paid, and now it can be bought at $60.
As you said, mechanical keyboards are a personal preference. I grew up with them and flat out hated them. When I was at the point where I could purchase my own keyboard, I bought a non mechanical Microsoft ergonomic keyboard and I have never looked back. Now in the past... 15 years (damn!) I've played with quiet a few new mechanical keyboards across a whole range of switches. And I haven't found one I like. That clicking noise raises the hair on my neck. The absurd pricing of 99% of the mechanical keyboards out there turns me off of the market altogether. Little surprises pop like that Cooler Master keyboard, @ $70 it's pretty good (and the Red Switches are almost tolerable to me).
I know this is a pointless matter to criticize about, but the one thing that just annoys the ever living daylights out of me about these Cooler Masters keyboards is them putting their logo on the windows key.
Don't know why that annoys me so much, but it's kept me from buying one.
Even though i do believe the MX Reds are still quite loud, they are far far quieter than the Blues/Browns... but non the less I agree with you on the non RGB keyboard. That's a great price!
I've been using the Logitech K800 for a couple of years now and I absolutely LOVE it. The only flaw is the back lighting. I wish it would stay on and at highest settings when plugged in (which I have it most of the time).
It's quit, it's easy on the fingers, and well designed. The keys feel good, and takes very very very little pressure to push down keys. I highly recommend this keyboard.
Oh and it's $60!!! One hell of a deal, I paid $110 for it back int he day!
WEll... it kinda does. Living in droms wasn't cheap when I was in school. I don't even want to know what they are now. So... you're payen for it regardless :)
Here are the full specs from HP:
Operating system Windows 10 Home 641
Memory 12 GB DDR4-2133 SDRAM (1 x 4 GB, 1 x 8 GB)
Memory Note Transfer rates up to 2133 MT/s
Memory and storage 12 GB memory
256 GB SSD storage
Cloud service Dropbox
Storage type SSD
Internal Storage 256 GB PCIe® NVMe™ M.2 SSD3
Processor speed 2.5 GHz
Processor family 6th Generation Intel® Core™ i7 processor
Processor Intel® Core™ i7-6500U (2.5 GHz, up to 3.1 GHz, 4 MB cache, 2 cores)
Processor technology Intel Turbo Boost Technology
Weight 4.4 lb4
Touch Screen Included
Display size (diagonal) 15.6"
Graphics Intel® HD Graphics 520 (up to 6.07 GB)5
Battery type 3-cell, 52 Wh Li-ion
Power supply type 45 W AC power adapter
Minimum dimensions (W x D x H) 14.96 x 10.04 x 0.71 in
Webcam HP Wide Vision HD Camera with dual array digital microphone6
Pointing device HP Imagepad with multi-touch gesture support
Audio features Bang & Olufsen with 2 speakers
Ports 1 USB 3.0 (Type-C)
3 USB 3.0 (1 HP USB Boost)
1 headphone/microphone combo
Wireless 802.11ac (2x2) and Bluetooth® 4.0 combo7 8
Expansion slots 1 multi-format SD media card reader
Security management Kensington MicroSaver lock slot
Accepts third-party security lock devices
Product color Natural Silver
Product design HP finish
Energy efficiency ENERGY STAR® certified
EPEAT® Silver registered9 10
Warranty 1-year limited hardware warranty, toll-free technical support
90-days limited software technical support (from date of purchase)
I'd love to hear those theories. I'm a huge fan of conspiracy theory (Coast to Coast!!! Midnight in the Desert when it first started up).
Serious though, what's your theory?
Congrats on feature, well earned. You did a fine job, looks top notch. I love Evolv Shift cases done right!! Please take my +1
That laptop looks so good. Can’t convince the wife to let me get it.
What is your budget? It’s an easier route to go and we can probably give you some good recommendations going forward
My wife said if it's a choice between the 35 and the 50, the 50 will be better for street photography as you won't need to be as close. She recommends the f1.2 but if money is tight the 1.8 is still amazing.
She also says if money isn't a big consideration the 85 1.2 would be best for street photography, but is a bit more expensive.
Are you only interested in primes? Any interest in zooms? If you have an interest in zooms, the 77 - 200 f2.8 is a great jack of all trades lens. And she points out it does amazing bokeh.
Out of curiosity, what kind of street photography?
10/10 father of the year!
Build is awesome too!!
Other way around. If you don’t have the memory then NVMe as a scratch disk and ssds for a working media drive. Application should be installed in your OS drive.
Citations needed for a comment like that otherwise is spreading false information.
Very clean build. Nice job, I dig that case! +1
Having a decent video card (specifically Nvidia) can drastically improve performance in Premier Pro CC. For an editing rig, I would seriously avoid anything less than a GTX 1060 6gb card. The GT1030 would be practically useless for a dedicated editing machine using Premier Pro CC.
Puget Systems recommends, after a lot of in house testing, an Nvidia card with at least 4gb vram for 1080p and 6gb for 4k.
Puget Systems recommended hardware list
Check out their GPU section and their explanations.
On top of that I would recommend staying with the x370 board for an editing rig. Storage is a big deal when editing video, and even more important in editing 4k. You want the ability to add as many fast drives as you can and expand into NVMe. Having extra pcie lanes for better storage options down the road (specially considering the OP wants to go 4k down the raid).
This link is for you. They didn't do any tests with the 1600x, but you can see what Ryzen performance is in general.
One other thing to keep in mind is Premier Pro CC is a memory hog. It was a pretty noticeable difference when I went to 32gb.
I think the 1600x will do rather well with Premier Pro CC. I use a 1700x and have no real complaints moving to it from a 7700k (other than clock speed).
I'd also say fast storage is a must. Fast storage improves preview performance, timeline playback performance, exporting times, load times (meaning in program video loading), and overall program quickness (specially if you use any of Premier Pro's built in effects). There is nothing more infuriating for me than a timeline playback that skips,. I currently use 2 512gb ssds in raid0 for editing, NVMe m.2 drive for OS and programs, another pair of 512gb ssds in Raid0 for temp storage and as my primary cache drive. I off load all media to two external 8tb drives.
The 1060 6gb card is a good choice. Adobe's Mercury playback engine using CUDA will reduce export times, improve timeline playback (specially if there are effects in use) and can also drastically improve the amount of your timeline that can be viewed without needing to generate previews first (straight from Puget Systems). The better the GPU, the better the performance.
There is an embargo on this. And won't be lifted until the 10th. So anything meaningful won't be released until then. Most of the IT staff at my company (those that are willing to talk about it to a point) are saying its a wait and see game. But non of them are all that worried about it.
They do get a kick out of all the over reactions going on.
I doubt its going to be as serious as the net's making it out to be. It's a serious situation, but any chance to jump on the OH SNAP INTEL F'ED UP bandwagon people will take it.
ground sirloin mixed with shredded bacon
1 packet of ranch per 2lbs beef
BBQ just long enough on both sides to cook the meat
as the patty is cooking on second side add 2 1/2 slices of onion and a slice of american cheese. Once cheese is melted, patty is done.
For the buns I usually use Franz Sesame Big Hamburger buns, buttered and then tossed on the grill until toasted.
I use mayonnaise, mustard, and bbq sauce. I only use one patty per bun, though my wife says the added onion is pretty much a patty as well.
I almost have two sides when I do burgers. BBQ corn on the cob and a side salad cause lettuce never belongs on a burger! :)
I usually only do one patty per as the onions pretty much qualify as a patty (according to my wife).
I usually serve with BBQ corn on the cob and a salad (salad never belongs on a burger).
Hmmmm. Good point. it will be a software restriction. $50 key from nvidia to unlock. After a lengthy survey of course.
hehehe Thank you! That part was actually my wife idea and contribution to the whole project.
WHAT a DEAL!
and at performance a % or two lower than the GTX 1070
I'll admit I hated RGB when it started making it into hardware. But I wound up getting a couple reels of RGb LED for house hold use, and it grew from there. I made the jump to individually addressable RGB LED's a few months ago and incorporated it in my latest build. Though i didn't have my arduino up and running for it (for some reason it's very complicated to me, though super simplistic).
Though I would NEVER sacrifice performance for RGB. RGB will always be a luxury bonus.
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looks a lot cleaner
After getting my wife her new camera back in February I decided to learn some new skills:
Learn Premier Pro CC and Adobe After Effects
Start a Youtube Channel
Incorporate my kids into more house hold projects
Make the first moves to get out of the print industry
Did pretty good on all but the last one, hard to move out of a field one's been in for 20+ years
Nice job, that's a hell of an accomplishment.
Next up a GTX 1060 TI
I’d like to head up to vancouver, Canada spend a week or two being a tourist. Then pack my bags, get a surplus of supplies, and head east hitting whatever little towns I could until I reach the Atlantic Ocean. Almost 40 years I’ve been in existence, and lived within 30 miles of the border for 10 of those years and I’ve never made it up. I feel I should do the trip soon or I might never be able to.
Thank you very much!!!
And right back at ya dude. Hope the new year is a good one! Be safe!!
I miss that every time. I miss spell it and auto correct takes over and I miss it! Hehe
Hehe I wound up having to tear down and store my primary rig for the next few weeks (lots of relatives visiting, needed the room). Ive been using this holiday build as a Christmas decoration and as a back up computer. I’ve been playing Destiny 2 and WoW on it, did some family video editing, and have let my kids play with it as well. So it turned out to be far more functional than I had really planned.
Kids can control the leds from their amazon fire tablet and that NEVER gets old!
Thank you very much! Happy New Year!
Hehe 5 finger discount!
J/k all pc parts came from my ever diminishing parts shelves. After the first they all go back to their respective places.
And thank you, happy new year!!
It’s been awhile so memory is a bit faded. But I picked up this PSU for $10 or so after holiday deals and a mail in rebate way back when on a cyber Monday.
I’m actually surprised it’s lasted as long. It’s been abused hehe
Wow saweeeet thank you!!!
Hehe that would be awesome!!
All pc parts came from stock in shelf. I wasn’t actually worried about the specs, the case was the focus. I’ve had most of those for some time now. The newest part is the 1050ti which I purchased for a different pc months ago.
I’ve had that PSU powering systems since 2012, one system running 24/7 with a heavy overclocked 7850k for three years.
And thank you very much!!
I got some camera equipment and an entry lvl micro racing drone. Also put together a Christmas Tree PC that I decided to give to my kids... who wouldn't stop playing with it anyways.
Omgosh I want that board to hit state side sooo badly!!
Great looken rig! Glad it all worked out and glad to help!
Hehe thanks but there are better systems to feature. Thanks for looking though!!
Appreciate the comment!
Hehehe thank you!
Thank you it was a fun build!
I forgot the 6100 supported ECC. Very cool build, good pics, great system. +1
Back when unreal Tourny was the hot game on the block, I played a mod version where you started with a fully automatic sniper rifle with like 500 rounds against, and I think most matches allowed up to 12 players (might have been 16... it was 17 years ago). Most matches were death matches and had a kill limit of 25 (I think). Who ever got to that number first ended the match. I got so good at that mod mode I could go roughly 10 rounds without a death and being the only one with kills. I've got screen shots on one of my old OLD ide drives of my 10th round undefeated victory. Was pretty fun. I miss that game (well... that mode).
Now that it's been 3 months since the build, how is it doing expectation wise. Performing where you want it to?