You can only add pics after you publish you build. There should be a link or button you click to add pics.
Very nice build. Just got myself a Mastercase Pro 5 as well, and it seems to have so much airflow compared to my mini ITX case I'm expecting my components to "freeze" ~ LOL
Is there a reason you're using the RAM sticks side by side? Usually, dual channel only works if your using the 1/3 or 2/4 slots, right? Not sure you would actually notice it though as your PC has power to spare.
Nice build! Do you know if those gray parts around the top and front of the case are somehow removable?
Yeah, I thought so due to case designs not having fans in front of the HDD cage. Hope my HDDs' passive cooling will be enough to keep them from overheating.
Thanks for the input on the SSD, actually I have one on my main rig I intend to use in this build if everything goes well :)
Nice clean build. Doesn't that Deepcool Gammax GT cooler have RGBs LEDs in the heatsink as well?
Thanks, I'm guessing it has but I'll update it to the last available version just to make sure.
Thanks for replying, I'll take a look at the 3770 deals then.
I actually happened to find a good deal on an I7-3770s (65w) but its Tcase is only 69.1°C, which seems pretty low for an I7. I wonder if entry level coolers like the Hyper 212 Evo or the Deepcool Gammax GT would be enough to keep the CPU cool enough under heavy usage (video converting, for example).
Nice build. How are the temps on the M.2 drive?
I really like builds like these with DIY painted parts, it adds a ton of uniqueness to the build. Hopefully your gf understands and appreciates how much work you put into this PC.
Thanks again! Just a question, out of curiosity: why the Optane memory instead of a SSD? While I get that Optane is awesome, it only speeds up things regularly used, right?
Thx for replying. Guess I'll be ordering an M.2 stick soon if heat is not an issue. Although costly, I don't really need more than 120 GB for my system drive, and having less cables in such a small case like the Core V1 is always a good thing :)
Oh, don't worry about that, I was just curious.
Is heat an issue when in heavy usage situations? I was considering getting a M2 SSD but since this case barely offers any ventilation under the mobo I was worried it could lose performance due to heat building up.
Nice build, congrats! I don't see where you put the M2 stick, is it on the back of the mobo?
Thanks for replying. I'll take that into consideration, unfortunately I don't have many mATX case options here where I live, so I guess I'd have to go either with the Versa H15 or the Cooler Master MasterCase 3 or the Master Case Lite 3.1. Design wise the CMs are pretty attractive, but I like the more rustic look and feel of the Versa.
Thank you. The G4400 does not need an aftermarket cooler to work properly, the stock one is more than enough. I only used the Cooler Master Hyper TX3 because that's what I was using in my previous build and the mounting holes were the same.
About the motherboard, I had some issues with random freezes recently, doing a clean install of Windows 10 seem to have fixed it, but the causes remain unknown. Since I'm not sure if the mobo could be the problem, I'd probably choose a more reputable brand just to be safe.
Also, congrats on your build. I kinda miss the simplicity of the G4400, probably would have stick with it if I chose the GTX 1050 instead of the RX 460.
This build is almost 6 years old and it still rocks. Very nice work with the cables, I wish Fractal would make small improvements to this case, like inverting the PSU and mobo position and putting a small HDD cage (or sell one to install on the drive bays.
Oh, I got it now XD
These simple rigs are my favorites, nice job +1
And who is Lenny?
Nice build. How do you like the case after almost 3 months of usage? I'm considering getting a mATX mobo and the Versa H15 as I'm finding my current Mini ITX mobo + Core V1 case too small to properly perform basic maintenance (aka cleaning) and troubleshoot for hardware problems. In comparison to a standard size case (for ATX mobos) is the Versa H15 too small or difficult to build in?
It is a bit. There are no holes for routing cables behind the mobo tray, so you have to hide them all behind the HDD cage. Since the PSU I was using was a non modular one with that nylon cover around the wires, I had to "use the force" to make them stay still and close the side panel.
Well, since you have a plan, I now see no reason not to get the 16GB kit. That said, RAM prices are pretty high nowadays, I don't remember them being so expensive before.
How do you like the G4560/1050 Ti combo? I currently have a G4560/RX 460, but I miss the Half Adaptive Vsync thing and FXAA doesn't seem to work as well in my current card, so I guess I'm going back to Nvidia in a few months.
Awesome build. The only thing I would change are the RAM modules. 16GB is a lot of RAM, for gaming 8GB is pretty much OK nowadays, and the difference in price could have been invested in a better case.
Aside from those 2 things, the build is perfect for an entry level gaming PC.
After a lot of testing in a variety of games (mostly older ones, just 3 AAA) and an equal amount of research, I found out that the CPU isn't actually bottlenecking the GPU. Comparing the performances of the "old" Tomb Raider (2013) and Rise of the Tomb Raider, I found out that the problem probably lies on driver optimizations.
The old TR was favored by AMD and it performs really well on the RX 460, I can play it on 1080p Ultra settings with 45+ frame rates with only a few dips here and there. Open areas don't affect performance nearly as much as it happens in Rise of the Tomb Raider, and my previous GTX 750 Ti didn't perform as good as the RX 460. Rise of the Tomb Raider, however, is a game favors Nvidia cards, and aside from my own experience, I found many videos showing that regardless of CPU power most mid tier AMD GPUs don't perform very well in the Geothermal Valley area, while entry level Nvidia GPUs such as the GTX 750 Ti don't have any kind of issues in that part of the game. What I didn't expect though was that drivers would make that much of a difference, to the point that a RX 460 had a far worse performance, even though it's up to 30% faster than a GTX 750 Ti in general. Now I'm not really sure what I'll do about it, since I can't return the new card and already sold my old one, maybe I'll get a GTX 1050/1050 Ti or just save up for some upgrades or mods here and there.
TL;DR: the RX 460 isn't being bottlenecked by the Pentium G4400, it's only performing bad at Rise of the Tomb Raider because the title favors Nvidia cards a lot or AMD didn't come up with good fine tuned drivers for that game.
Thx all for your help
I'm running 64 bits here
You mean the lack of support to DX12? Or driver related issues, windows updates and such?
I'm currently running the 2nd most recent drivers from AMD. When I first installed the card, I used the most recent, but someone I know suggested me to use ones that were a bit older to see if the problem persisted (and they did). All unninstalations were properly done I guess, and I made sure to wipe out remaining driver files with DDU.
Thx for replying. I tried GTA V too, and had slightly better results. I managed to lock the fps to 30 using Riva Tuner, and now the game runs pretty much OK, but some frame dips still occur every now and then. I've tried playing Tales of Symphonia, Tales of Zestiria and Final Fantasy XIII Lightning Returns, but seeing as those are pretty light games compared to AAA titles like GTA or RotTR, I couldn't tell any difference from the RX 460 and the 750 Ti.
Didn't know Rise of the Tomb Raider was a Nvidia title, and certainly didn't expect a more powerful GPU from the competitor brand to perform worse D:
Very clean, nice looking build! Are you using LED strips to illuminate the case (picture 3)? Or that light comes from the fans?
1st pic makes the PC looks like it's floating, lol
Nice build btw
Nice build, congrats. That case is awesome, wish it was available here where I live. Good choice of components for a budget build too. Could you tell me what games are you playing?
Oh, I see, thx anyway
I think I've seen something like that in a video, saying that over the last year AMD's cards aged better than Nvidia's due to better drivers or something like that. I had a good experience with the red team before, but I think I'd miss Half Adaptive Vsync if I went back.
I was considering the 1050 Ti as well, but it costs more and I'm afraid it would be moderately bottlenecked by my CPU. What settings are you playing ROTTR at?
Awesome build, congrats! Before building my last PC I had similar ideas for a custom case, but I lacked the courage and skills to make something usable, lol. Are you using the case in the standing position, with the plexi window on the side? Doesn't the case vibrate with the movement of the fans on the CPU Cooler, GPU and PSU?
Ah, yes, I'm aware of that, it's just that going from 3.3 to 3.0 or 3.2 is a bit strange to me, even with the per core performance increases
I see, guess I'll have to wait a bit more then .-. I know it's a Core i5 and that it would perform better than the previous generation, but I guess I'd feel a bit strange if I upgraded to a "slower" CPU. I know the i5 would be much faster than my 3.3 Ghz Pentium G4400, but still... strange, lol
Hmm, if you intend to play more demanding games or feel like the 950 is a worthy, then I'd suggest an upgrade. Actually, I'd recommend the GTX 1050, which is a bit more powerful and is costs about the same as the 950. But if you want to try modding the BIOS first, be sure to make a save copy just in case. Regardless of software, the thing with #3 is that you need some software to control the fan speeds. I guess I didn't make myself very clear, but what I did was:
Important: If you don't use any kind of software to control the fan speed, I don't know at which temperature the fan will start running.
As I'm using Windows, I don't know if there's a software that controls fan speeds on Linux, but I guess there are many out there. But if you want to go the resistor route and knows how to do that, then why not, lol
I saw in your completed builds that you used some Noctua fans, maybe you could try using those "noise reduction" cables that comes with some of their fans/coolers?
To flash a custom bios into the card I used a software named Maxwell Bios Tweaker to change the minimum rpm to 0, and then used Nvflash to load the bios into the GPU. Then, I created a custom curve in MSI Afterburner to make the fan spin at 35% as soon as the card reached 55º C - until it reached that temperature, the card would remain "fanless". You can read this post for more info. I didn't had any serious problems with that config, except the limit I set to make the fan start spinning was kinda high for this build. I had driver crashes a couple times, probably due to the VRMs or other components getting hotter than they should. I thought of 3 ways of solving this issue:
1 - Improve the airflow within the case, and for me that would mean getting the case fans running at 7v or 12v. To make them run at 7v I'd have to buy a newer 3-pin to molex adapter, since the one I'm currently using is crappy, and cable management is kinda hard on this case, so... nah.
2 - Buy an aluminum GPU backplate, as it has some thermal pads to help cool the memory modules and maybe some other components. Although it would make the card cooler and give it an even nicer look, I wasn't sure that would really solve the overheating issue, not to mention the cost.
3 - The simpler and cheaper alternative: instead of making the card "fanless" up until 55º, I set the fan speed at 35%. That way it stays considerably quieter than it was at 40%, and is cool enough not to crash or overheat. That way the GPU temps never go higher than 61ºC even if I overclock +50 on the GPU clocks and +250 on the memory clocks.
TL;DR - I used Maxwell Bios Tweaker and Nvflash to customize the bios. See the following link for more info: http://forums.evga.com/Problem-when-flashing-GTX-750-Ti-SC-m2542868.aspx#2543269 (read from the 1st post). To make sure you won't run into issues, consider using the solution #3 I mentioned above.
Oh hey, it's me again. Just passing by to link you to my recently built PC: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/dQ8KHx
Man, cable management was terrible, but after seeing your pics from all kinds of angles and etc, I somehow managed to hide the cables in a way that wouldn't disturb the airflow nor the looks of the case.
Yes sir, that's how much they go for. Now it's possible to find them cheaper, but that was the price (including shipping) when I bought the card 2 months ago. Import taxes are very expensive here -_-
I get what you're saying. For this build I already knew I didn't need something very powerful as my previous build was enough for my needs, so I decided to invest in the aesthetics a bit. I was lucky to find the PSU at a good price, and the mobo was at an OK price since I bought it overseas, and after looking through many shops I found a guy that makes custom sleeved cables, so in the end the aesthetics added a bit to the cost but not as much as needed to buy a higher tier CPU/GPU.
Nice, I thought about wrapping the cooler top in carbon fiber vinil, but thought that would require tools and skills I didn't have, so I went with the spray paint. Now I'm thiking I should have gone with the vinyl LOL
Thx, the cooler does look better in reality than it does on the photos. Gotta say I'm pretty satisfied with its looks and performance now. Guess I'll review the components I used sometime later.
Thanks :) I wanted it to looks as clean as possible. Except from the CPU cooler that has a messy appearance, the rest seems pretty discrete and clean I guess
I bought the 750 Ti for about BRL 570.00.
Oh hey, it's me again. I got my build ready, but I had so much trouble trying to manage the PSU cables in this case, it felt like I was fighting Medusa and all I had were zipties. Can you give me any tips or a piece of advice? I'll have to redo the cable management in a few days after my new PSU arrives, so any kinda help would be awesome lol
Thx. Won't it be risky to use an adapter? I've heard some ppl almost had their PC on fire because of that things
Dang, really? I did a quick search on some forums and saw people saying the TS was a better and newer unit. Oh well, if it works fine, then I'm good. I'd like advice on another issue, if I may ask: I didn't know the Sata power connectors were quite close to each other in that PSU, so much that I can't power my SSD and 2 HDDs simultaneously. Where I live there are some stores selling an NZXT molex to Sata adapter, which I believe would be of higher quality than those cheap chinese manufactured ones. Would it be safe to use it to power my drives?