I thought you had a CLC, but the Cryorig is a good tower cooler! :)
Consider Arctic MX-4 paste; seems to give better temps than Silver 5 for most setups.
Neither of the SLI builds that you linked above use hybrid water cooled GPU cards.
The ones you picked each have a 120mm rad and 2 tubes...just making sure you are aware- it will be much more difficult to get it all to fit!
Ok- sounds good! Like I said, it will all fit, but it will be a real squeeze! Those tubes are not very bendable. Post pictures when you complete it! :)
I agree with this- a 1TB EVO is a much better choice.
Did you mean to choose the Evolv ATX case?
Technically the parts will fit in the case, but you will have really terrible airflow with all of the hoses crammed in there for 3 watercooled components. I mean for the rest of the internals: for your mobo, drives, and RAM. Even the GPUs will heat up because only the core is watercooled but the rest of the card relies on air cooling. I would go with a bigger case for sure- if you like the design go for the Evolv ATX mid-tower. I own it and it's amazing.
Try this. A Xeon based system might make sense for you as well, but the 6 core 5820k is a good choice since you can easily overclock it to over 4ghz. Room to expand to 64GB or up to 96gb with the RAM I spec'd (16gb RAM sticks will go down in price in the next year or 2)
List your CPU, GPU budget (if it's on order?) and I can help you out. Is it for gaming only? Are you doing anything else like video editing/ 3D rendering/ CAD, etc.?
Nope- it won't fit 3x140mm at either the top or front- only 3x120 max. I think a good 240 rad is plenty of cooling to be honest. Other option is to go air cooling with a Cryorig R1 Ultimate. Will easily keep up with the water coolers and run quieter.
You can do 3x120 front and top.
With your 240 rad, you could swap all fans for 120mm and keep a single 140 on the rear as exhaust.
I've thought about replacing my front 140mm fans with 3x120, but it probably would make very little difference.
With a single GPU and an overclocked CPU with a CLC the 3 stock fans are plenty!
Literally the ONLY game that pushes the GPU temps up is Crysis 3; nothing else comes close to loading up both the CPU and the GPU to that extent.
My rad is 280 (Corsair 110i GTX)
I actually placed it on top with only 2 Noctua Industrial 2000rpm fans in "Pull" configuration, but the fans are on the bottom of the rad, so they are pulling cooler air through the rad which cools the CPU very well but heats the inside of the case a bit more if I'm doing heavy gaming. The result is that the GPU gets pretty warm. If I reverse the fans to exhaust air out through the top I would end up with lots of dust clogging the rad and I would have to remove the fans every time I wanted to clean it. But, this approach would probably lower my GPU temps a couple of degrees more. I'm keeping it as is for now since the CPU is nice and cool and the GPU temps only get hot (78C max) after long sessions in Crysis 3. So to review: 280 rad on top, fans in pull acting as intake, 2 front fans as intake and rear fan as exhaust. Works very well. You have the same GPU in your build, so you may face the same choice...
Yes- it was out already. I just purchased my system about 1 month ago.
My final choice was between the Enthoo Evolv ATX and the Fractal R5 and Define S. I liked the Define S open layout, but they left out some filters and other nicer features in the R5. The Evolv ATX is also a nice open layout like the Define S, but better quality build, minimalist looks and not too large.
I will eventually convert to a custom liquid cooling setup and the Evolv is probably the best case for a mid-sized system using a custom loop.
The aesthetics and build quality are really top notch for the money. It's built like a tank. It performs very well as long as you don't install too many drives to impede the airflow from the front intake fans and keep your cable management clean (which is extremely easy to do with this case).
See my revised response above- not sure if you caught it before replying.
You haven't actually built the system yet, right? I think you should try it with stock fans first and then decide; you might be surprised. Nice fans will cost you $20-$30 each, so it's about $55-$90 you could put toward something else in the system.
My build uses the Evolv ATX and the temps are great. I replaced my fans with the Noctua Industrial 2000rpm (2 intake and 1 exhaust). Performance is similar in reality, but the stock fans were white so they needed to go (also a red black build like yours).
Look at Fractal Design fans- basic black and they have good performance for the money.
Looking at your case, it comes with 3 very decent black CM fans included. I suggest you run the front 2 as intake and the rear one as exhaust and see how the system performs. There is really no reason to buy new fans until you know that the existing ones are inadequate for your situation (too noisy at load, not enough cooling power, etc) But you won't know until you build the system and try it out. I suspect they will do the job very well.
The best option for both airflow and silence is to buy fans without LEDs :)
Seriously- they suck.
If you want LED lights, just buy a tape light like the Bitfenix Alchemy 2.0; they are magnetic and you can move them to a new system in 2 seconds. Just a thought... :)
If you can get a 6700K for equivalent price, then there is no reason to get the Xeon; the 6700K will be much faster than that chip in all apps without doing any overclocking.
I think you should get rid of the overpriced Intel SSD and replace it with a higher capacity one; benchmarks are one thing, but there is literally zero difference in real world use. I recommend the 850 Pro 1TB model for your purposes.
Not that they will fail, but they have worse thermal performance compared to air coolers until you get into the larger, more expensive units (2x120, 2x140, or 3x120 sizes). And they are usually noisier than a large air cooler.
If you plan to OC the CPU, I would recommend either a more powerful liquid cooler or one of the larger air coolers like the ones I recommended, so you would need to get a bigger case that has space to either mount the larger radiators or height to mount the larger air coolers.
Ok- if you're going to OC the CPU and use some higher end GPU, I think it's worth spending a little more for a larger case that gives the system room to expand, and with much better airflow:
Then you can fit a larger AIO cooler or one of the larger tower air coolers. For CLC I recommend either the Corsair 110i GTX or the Kraken X61. If you want to go with a big air cooler, the Cryorig R1 Ultimate is very nice and quiet.
If you eventually want to expand into liquid cooling, then go with the Swiftech 240x2 or 320x2.
Are you going to overclock the CPU?
Either way I would get rid of the Corsair AIO and replace it with a nice air cooler.
Yes- you don't need to OC to run smooth 1080p. You can OC with the cooler I suggested from Xigmatek.
Ok- to be totally honest. You want to overclock and already know you want to upgrade to SLI in the near future. I suggest you sell your Corsair case and grab a better case right off the bat that gives you room for better airflow and larger CPU coolers.
For $20-$30 more depending on sales, you can pick up a Fractal Design R5, which is a MUCH better case than the Corsair and can easily handle dual GPU + overclocked CPU setup.
You can then go for a larger AIO cooler to give you a lot more OC headroom for your CPU, like the Corsair 110i GTX or you can pick up a Swiftech 240-x2, which costs more but is a better solution than any AIO.
Try this one-
Ahh bummer. That's a great air cooler.
At least they're clean! :)
By case I meant "situation", since you can get the 980 for cheap, it's the best option specifically for you.
I would also get rid of that H60 cooler. It won't give you better performance than a good air cooler.
Maybe this one instead:
in your specific case, just buy the 980
I agree! If you are already thinking about 1440p @144hz, you should probably spring for a 980ti now. Or buy a 970 now and sell it and get a Pascal GPU in 8 months when you upgrade your monitor.
No way. Just decide on a budget, save until you hit that # or slightly exceed it. Then evaluate what you can afford to purchase at that moment when you have the money. Look at it this way: You decide to purchase a 980 ti card now, a fantastic beast of a card, best of the best etc. You continue saving money, then later on purchase more parts. Finally, 8 months from now, you've purchased the last of the parts and are ready to build. At that point, Pascal cards have been released, with a variant available at about the same price that you paid for your 980ti that has nearly twice the performance of that card. Technology moves quickly...
I know what "they" say the spec requirements are for VR, but if you read between the lines, you'll need ridiculous power to keep up with the Jones's. :) I would NOT try and build an Oculus Rift rig until the next gen GPUs are released later this year from both AMD and Nvidia. And VR is the one application that makes SLI rigs truly relevant and possibly necessary again for max performance. So whatever you decide, I'd personally spec out a 2xSLI setup if you can swing the budget! But having said that, I wouldn't do 980ti cards at this point with the much more powerful Pascal literally a few months from being released.
Wait 6 months. Save more money. Then jump in with dual Pascal cards- the rest of your specs are completely fine.
If you have good case airflow, good fans, etc, and don't mind the noise of all those fans, you don't need to liquid cool 980ti cards. The performance gains in actual FPS drops off dramatically as you increase clock speed and voltage to support it. I believe the MSI Gaming 6G 980ti cards had slightly more overclocking headroom than Asus Strix but can't remember where I read it, so you might consider getting an MSI card with a block from EKWB if you really want to pursue it. As I said, performance gains will be extremely minimal, but you can have an ultra-silent PC and that's the bigger reason to do a custom WC loop like that. And it looks freaking cool. :)
If I were going to do a 2x SLI of highly overclocked 980ti cards, then I'd definitely go with a custom loop for my CPU and 2 GPUs
Max out your budget LOL:
I just recently built a new system with MSI and that worked out great.
I've heard good things about this board:
Wow. That is shocking. I've had good luck with Asus stuff going back nearly 20 years!
Who are you purchasing from if I may ask?
Just go to falcon-nw.com and spend your millions. You'll be out of money a lot sooner than you expected! :)
A popular choice- Asus makes quality stuff.
True, but I still think that assuming less platters = more reliability is a fallacy and should not be a deciding factor in picking a hard drive or drives for a system.
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Also, if I switch the fans on the top radiator to pull through and out of the case as exhaust, it would probably improve GPU temps SLIGHTLY- maybe. But my CPU temps would probably go up a couple of degrees, so it's a balance. :)
I'm thinking of switching to 3x120 intake fans for the front panel- should give a little bit more cool airflow. I also think that the case benefits a lot from having open air and clearance space around it since the front and top are constricted.
If I ever wanted to SLI 2 or 3 graphics cards, I'd have to do a dedicated water cooling loop- or add a side intake fan into the acrylic panel to blow fresh air right on the GPUs. My CPU temps are really good so far, but the GPU temps are just "ok". Overall it does pretty well considering the design and limited number of fans.
Interesting- isn't there an issue pairing different RAM sticks? I've always thought buying a kit that is designed to work together is the most stable solution.
Another option to 2 monitors is one big one with accurate color and solid gaming. Your 980ti will eat it up.
Yes- the hardware is solid. I'd personally throw 32GB of RAM in there for a little extra cash. Video editing needs beastly amounts of RAM especially large projects. And if you ever want to mess with 4K video- the more RAM the better- even 64GB isn't crazy.
Also replace memory with a 4x4gb kit to get the most of the quad channel X99 spec.
If he's doing image and video editing, he shouldn't be using bargain basement monitors. That's pretty much what increases the price by $500 at least. If he's cool with junkie displays (no offense) :) but gaming monitors are not for real work that requires color accuracy and uniformity out of the box.