Wait for the benchmarks. Who knows at the moment and how well they will run on an older motherboard.
Anyone at MSRP (280 and less).
Ebay sales have the low profile selling at $75+/-. Not a bad sell if you find someone willing to spend that much. $50 if you don't want to gouge someone on craigslist/marketplace. If that was my card I'd try saying it on Ebay. Thats a very specific type of card. It might be hard to sell locally on craigslist.
This is so true.
I was pretty hyped until I thought about what was actually said. First they are releasing 2 Ryzen 7's with one being $399 that they are saying is going to compete with Intel’s i9-9900k that was released a year ago for $488. Is this really a win and it doesn’t include an iGPU? Say what you will about iGPU but it's still a perk. The 12 core chip is definitely cool. I guess we will just have to wait and see.
Five years is a long time especially if you trying to keep a midrange GPU around. That’s basically a GTX 770 4gb vs GTX 960 2gb.
Yeah I hear ya on that. It just seems like that PSU is pretty basic and a GTX 770 is kind of hungry. Though, If It's more for just fun. I'd just rock the 6 to 8 pin adapter like you did.
What PSU are you using? I'd recommend just selling the GTX 770 and buying a new RX-570 or something similar. Less power usage and faster. Really anything from a GTX 960 and above is faster than a GTX 770.
Well that stinks.
Then I would recommend the 2600, 2600X or wait roughly 2 more months for Ryzen 3000 to be released.
As long as you overclock its hard to pass up the 1700.
Yeah, i guess an Rtx 2070 wouldnt be too bad of a buy. You are getting more performance and an extra 2 gigs of VRAM.
Going from a GTX 980 TI to a RTX 2060 isnt that much of a upgrade unless you just need a GPU like you are saying. So, its really up to you if you think spending close to $400 for like 20% more performance. Stinks that your GPU is causing issues during one of the worst GPU buying times. An RTX 2080 or 2080TI is a better buy but really expensive.
If you're gaming at 1080p I wouldn’t care too much about the VRAM difference. For "today" 8 gigs is more than enough for gaming. Future might be something different but probably by then something better will be out. You really are paying for the raytracing and tensor cores on the RTX cards. Yeah, why lessen the amount of VRAM when both perform about the same was kind of a marketing gimmick to save money but charge the same amount on NVIDIA's end.
Plus, you said you'll be gaming at low settings to get the most FPS which will lessen the amount of VRAM you'll be using. Basically, the VRAM is just used for textures and images to load faster. If you never go above 8 gigs then a 11gig variant card will perform the same.
Since the 1080TI is discontinued and you are really looking at the used market if you want that card. I would look at a 1080TI for around $450-550. That’s a good price but probably out of warranty. It’s really up to you if you want new or used. I’m personally not interested in any of the RTX cards as I think they are well overpriced since nothing really uses the tech that they are marketing it for. Not to mention the tech really hinders the performance.
Though to answer your question the VRAM difference isn't really your main concern when gaming. It should just be about the price and if you want new or used. Both cards will perform great and are pretty much overkill for 1080p gaming and streaming.
They did the exact same thing with the i5-2500k vs 2550k. Really zero reason to buy the more expensive iGPU less CPU. It's really for anyone trying to get the highest possible overclock if youre lucky.
Which is what you said.
They're both 325. Will the extra vram help me on the 1070?
They're both 325. Will the extra vram help me on the 1070?
Meaning don't buy a used 1070 when you could get a 1070TI for that price.
So for $325 I'd look into a used 1070TI or a new 1660TI.
Yeah, i wouldnt spend more then say 240 for a gtx 1070 even a strix. You are entering into used GTX 1070TI prices then.
Yes thats a good price but looks like a minners card if you care?
GTX 1660TI beacuse its just better.
RX 590 because of value and free games.
Agree with that. People only complained because the 2600k usually hit 4.5-5.0ghz without temp issues. The 3770k had a temperature threshold which limited a lot of users to go above 4.5ghz-4.6ghz. It really was the start of Intel not really increasing performance where sandy vs ivy was just PCI E 3.0 support.
I wouldn't consider that chip outdated at all. Only thing outdated is a sandy/ivy bridge CPU running DDR3 Ram. You can still have an argument saying those are more then enough for today.
Have you tried corsair link? Also changing out a cooler shouldn’t cause you to error windows to the point of reinstall. They have nothing in direct correlation with each other.
This video kind of shows that buying over a RTX 2060 with a Ryzen CPU becomes kind of pointless. I'd just stick with a RTX 2060 but a RTX 2070 is the max I'd pair with a Ryzen CPU at 1080p. A RTX 2060 should give you 100fps in both of those games. My 1700X and a GTX 1060 6gb on low/med gives me 100+ fps on Apex.
That is a budget frendly CPU but its hard to pass up the 1700 due to only being $40 more. I think thats probably the better buy. Yeah, OP might not need 8 cores but for $40 why not?
Nevermind didnt realize its overpriced in Canada.
You can't answer this question without more information on your build and what you plan to use it for. If its straight gaming with a RTX 2080 TI then a i5-9600k would be a better choice. Than again, why would you spend $1200-1500 on a gpu and pair it with anything less than a i9-990k? If its gaming with a RTX 2060-2070 than both would be great. If its gaming and streaming then a 2700X. If its gaming, streaming and content creation than a 2700X is better.
So you need more information.
No, I wouldnt.
Yes, correct. GPUZ is a good program to see if your gpu is actually overclocked or back to default. Yeah, overclocking a GPU hasn't really been that good since NVIDIA implementing GPU Boost by default. That basically overclocks your GPU beyond anything that the manufacture specifies on the spec/box. I’m not saying that you still can’t gain performance in a overclock it’s just not that much. Some games you might see more than another but just don’t expect 20+fps at 1080p. The 10 series gpus saw more gain from a overclock than the new turing GPU’s it seems.
Restart computer and dont start afterburner will set your GPU back to default. So by not opening afterburner your GPU will be running at stock speeds. Now if you open afterburner their is a default option which is that backwards arrow looking thing. Clicking on that will set your GPU back to default settings even if you dont feel like restarting your PC. I recomened not having afterburner run with startup and creating hot keys like F1 or F2 for default/overclocking settings.
Ton of tutorials online that will help explain the correct way to use afterburner and overclock. Dont expect a lot of performance with overclocking a GPU. You tend you only get 10fps+/- and sometimes its just not worth all the effort and added noise from the fans spinning up.
should start off at 3.9 ghz and work your way up. 3.9 is the stock turbo boost for 1 core. You should aim for 4.0-4.2 ghz for a max overclock.
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Bought a used GTX 1060 6gb card when the prices for GPU's were just starting to go insain (Summer 2017 $200). Its been overclocked pretty much from that day on and have zero issues. I've been currently looking to replace this 1060 with either a 1070 ti or 1080. Ive also bought used CPU's and RAM. The only thing ive never bought used were motherboards and hard drives.
Wait, you bought more RAM to run multiple monitors? Thats not how that works. Your RTX 2070 supports 4 monitors even with say only 2 gigs of system ram. You only need more RAM if you are doing more compression work or like to game and have about 10k tabs of chrome open and stream at the same time. Then you might use 32 gigs of ram. Non the less 32 gigs is 32 gigs, its just not something you need for multiple monitor use.
Imo Newegg is better than Amazon. Better packed shipping and sometimes faster.
Either a lower tier GTX 1660TI or a RTX 2060. If you like used products you could find a GTX 1070 for around 200-240 and a GTX 1070 TI around 250-300. I wouldnt buy a GTX 1060 6gb anymore but the RX 580 8gb are priced really nicely right now.
Yes, the GTX 1660 TI could game at 1440p but obviously the RTX 2060 will do better. I guess if you are planning to save a few then the GTX 1660 TI is worth buying.
GTX 1660 TI
before the whole mining thing happend. You could get a GTX 1070 for $325. Yes $325 2 years ago.
You shouldn't have this issue at all. What case are you using? Are you overclocking? Maybe contact the manufacturer and try to RMA. Runing dual, triple or even quad monitors on a single GTX 1070 shouldnt increase your idle temp or casue games to crash. Are you having these issues when only having one montior installed?
You couldn't be more wrong with that answer. If you run SLI you technically can only run video off the top GPU. If you wanted to run multiple of monitors like 8 plus. You would just run the GPU's not in SLI.
Its not common to run multiple of GPU's but you could run NVIDIA, AMD and Intel all at once.
They both are the same, except one has a nicer cooler and backplate. That’s all you are paying for to be honest. Other than that, they both will perform within a fps of each other and one might overclock slightly more.
you're gonna need a bigger desk.
Well the RTX 2060 will play 1080p games for a long time. I just mean't that it wont last 5+ years for ultra graphic settings for new/future games. That card should def last 5+ years or whenever you feel like upgrading. Either option would be a good choice and should last a really long time with 1080p low to medium settings.
For AAA title games with all the DXR or DLSS features you'll probably awalys need a newer generation card. For ESPORT games like CSGO, DOTA, League or Overwatch. Well, you should be set for a really really long time.
Yeah, true I guess I shouldnt have said the GTX 970 is done. Ive always been someone who buys low to mid and turns the graphics down anyways. I can't stand all the lighting, smoke and added graphic features. I could make the GTX 970 last me a very long time. As for 1080p gaming at "ultra" settings its pretty much not strong enough for newer/future titles.
The next 5 years? None probably. Look at the GTX 770 vs 970. They are both pretty much shot. If you are planning to keep a card for 5+ years then you should be looking into more high end than mid range.
Well I know for a fact that the GTX 1060 6gb card will not hit 144hz in most AAA title games at high graphic settings. If you do some tweaking or just set graphics to low/medium you will achieve 100+ fps in most games. I personally think a 144hz monitor is worth upgrading over your GPU. You will just noticed that not only will games be smoother but the whole windows environment being smoother. Just keep that GPU a little longer until RTX lowers in price or AMD actually makes something worth buying.
Aside from the RTX GPU being overpriced, then yes you will get a better experience with a RTX 2070 at high/ultra settings. Now is it worth spending $500 dollars on a GTX 1080 "like" performance GPU? Not really sure but IMO no. Atleast not upgrading from a 1060 to a 2070. If you had a 1050TI or 970 then I'd say its worth it.
I also own a similar system paired with a 1700X and a 144hz (ASUS VG248QE) non freesync/gsync monitor and I dont get screen tearing in those games. Then again, I'm all about high fps and I usually just turn AA and graphic settings to low/medium anyways. I can't stand all the smoke/sun and all the other random stuff that can distract you.
So if you were to upgrade to a RTX 2070 it would be a crime to not pair that RTX 2070 without anything thats not 1080p 144hz or 1440p 144hz gysnc/freesnyc.
I agree with the Corsair LPX. I paired 16gb 3200 mhz Corsair LPX memory with a 1700X and just enabled XMP profile and thats about it. Runs perfectly at 3200mhz with a 4.0 ghz overclock on the CPU.
Just set up a hot key to turn on and off the overclock, thats usually what I do. I never keep the overclock on when I'm not gaming.
If you set a overclock in AB and you just close the application. Your GPU will still be overclocked until you open up AB and set the GPU back to default or physically restart your computer.
Thats why its best to set a hotkey for overclock and default.
I'm not sure it would be worth upgrading from a i3 to a i5. It would probably be best to at least go to an i7-7700 non k. Yeah, I know its expensive but you can find some off ebay second hand for $220ish.
Sell your i3 for around $85+/- and buy a i7-7700 for $220+/-. Basically a new cpu for $135 and a huge jump in performance vs motherboard and CPU upgrade.
If you are keeping the 970, then either CPU will perform the exact same in gaming.
Well, if you only plan to game. Then it's better to spend the extra $100 on a better GPU than a CPU. Whats you budget for a new build and are you planning to build an entire new system or adding some components?