Basically what Banshebot said is that the H55 is pure junk. You shouldn't look at AIO water coolers from corsair unless its the 80i and up. The CM h212 evo or even the CRYORIG H7 will perform better for less. Secondly i wouldn't look at a GTX 980 anymore since the release of the GTX 980TI. IMO the only real GPU's you should get is the GTX 970 or 980TI as of today because of the price difference. The GTX 970 doesnt perform that much less then the 980 but the 980 does perform a let less then the 980 TI. If you were to get the GTX 970 you then can save on a H100i and get yourself a SSD. Other then that it looks pretty solid. Motherboard is a little cheap IMO.
No problem :)
You're not going to tell the difference between the two in games and real world work loads. So, I'd save the $120 and buy a better GPU. The only real reason to get the 4690k is the igpu and better components on motherboard. Overclocking both will get to like 4.5+/- pretty easily with some luck getting to 4.6-4.8+/-. So if you need a lot of usb 3.0's get haswell, but if you dont and want to get a GTX 970 over a R9-280x then get ivy.
3570k runs about 10-20% slower per clock speed vs the 4690k. So one would assume in a perfect environment that a 4.0 ghz 3570k will run as fast as a stock 4690k.
Is this a joke?
Very true. Bulldozer was before the first APU.
Whats your price point???
Id look here for a budget minded build https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/
FYI if you don't already know, but all recent INTEL CPU's are APU's. AMD just decided to make things confusing as their FX CPU's don't have integrated graphics.
Yes true but Intel has been on a kick of having the i5-k at 220 and the i7-k at 320. So one one assume these new ones will be around there. So really the price probably wont be different if you buy now or wait. The only difference is they may or may not sell with bundles within the first few months and maybe some glitches.
I wouldn't worry about it. May i ask what price you will getting this CPU for? If its anything more the $150 it might be overpriced IMO.
Honestly its really hard to fry a CPU now a days. With that overclock it sure sounds like the seller knew what hes doing. Yes the volts seem kind of high but they still are within the maximum intel recommends. So yes that CPU has plenty of years. You're more likely to have the HDD, PSU or water cooler fail then the CPU.
FYI if you're nervous about the volts then just bump the cpu down to like 4.4 ghz and lower volts. Could always have the seller do it ;)
Yikes!!!! Yeah good thing i live here and get a titan x for a lot cheaper.
True....but i remember when bleeding edge wasn't even close to 1k.
I guess im fine with the titan being 1k since its not really meant for gaming but the 980TI should be somewhere around $600 IMO.
I have no idea what ppl are saying but yes its good enough for 1080p 60fps gaming. Yes some games you might have to lower some of the settings which you wont even notice the difference (AKA AA). Personally i love lowering settings in games due to the fact that i dont like all those crazy AA settings, shadows and other stuff that just makes it harder to see things. I just think a lot of that stuff makes the game look blurry.
So yes, the GTX 960 which is slightly worst then a GTX 770 (i have) plays BF4, AW, Titanfall, Mortal Kombat X and some others maxed. GTA V runs at Very high settings with AA reduced well over 60 FPS.
Anyone else annoyed by these $1000 or close too $1000 cards?
Personally id go for the i7 and a gtx 980. I haven't used Crossfire in years but if i remember correctly to enable crossfire you need to run games on full screen mode. Given that you can stream and game at full screen, (I stream CSGO fullscreen for the 4:3 ratio but thats the only game i run fullscreen) it does become a pain to constantly alt tab out to access OBS/XSPLIT vs running games at fullscreen window mode. Its just much easier to alt tab out without screwing stuff up and flipping between different settings in obs and accessing chat.
My vote is is the i7 gtx 980 combo.
I saw that but linus reported it wont. So we will see.....
Rumors still say its not suppose to support DDR4. Ehh i think im going to hang onto my 3570k until a non enthusiast series CPU has 6 cores and uses DDR4. Im getting kind of sick of this 10% increase in performance every year. Hey AMD WAKE UP!!!!!
Yeah if you plan not to OC its a really good CPU. It will game just as well any i7/i5.
SLI 980's wont be bottlenecked by a 2500k.
The reason why everyone gets the 1231 v3 is because its the cheapest Xeon that has hyper threading. So really no reason to spend more for a slightly higher clock speed, because you wont notice much or anything at all. The E3-1231 v3 is just a better 4790 (non k cpu) . Its built to run 24/7 and run pretty much 100% all the time, this is a reason why they are considered server processors. So this CPU is built really well and really stable!
Id get the Xeon over a 4790k if you arent planning to get a 4.5 ghz overclock. If you plan to overclock that i7 then save up. But if you dont want a 4.5 + overclock just get the xeon, you will be good for years!
yeah they will update geforce experience just about as much as they update drivers. So around once a month.
yeah AMD's corssfire is a pain in the ***. Half the time i was getting better frames with one card vs 2 so i was constantly disabling them.
honestly i have no idea right now. I just decided to try it out and it was running really smooth on a 60inch 60hz led tv. Id assume somewhere around 60fps when i had the game settings at 720p. Once i changed it to 1080p it lagged a lot but for a old computer and drivers on a GPU that they havent released since october of 2013, I thought was pretty good!!! Would i recommend this PC to run gta v?? no but it ran haha.
Honestly I can run GTA V on my media PC which has a Core 2 Duo E7400 non OC with 4 gigs of ram and an HD 4850 1 gb card. So i see no reason why an i3 couldnt run this game if you really wanted an Intel cpu. Though if you went for a FX-6300 that might be the best bet????
then download Microsoft Security Essentials which is the same thing as windows defender. Microsoft just decided to change names with different OS but its the same thing.
New game problems. Have you tried to run the game with sli disabled yet?
Looking at the newest GPU's from NVIDIA, the 680/770 perform slightly better then the GTX 960. So both those card are good but who knows about future games. I do know that they will both support direct x 12 and this gives some added future prof.
Both are the same cards except the 770 is slightly faster. So if i was you and you can get a GTX 680 for 80 (euros?) id jump on that. You wont find that performance for that cheap IMO. Also those games you mention dont really demand much so getting the 770 would be pointless.
depends on the games you want to play. If its csgo and lol then the APU is more then enough. If you are going to play more modern games like GTA V and such then youd need something better.
Yeah forgot about the turbo.
like jacobs said but you can overclock the xeon just not very much as they reach a max pretty easily. You can maybe get those chips to around 4 ghz if you're lucky.
Yeah and i remember AMD saying the 8150 was going to be the i7 killer back when the i7-2600k was the top dog. Well it never did and still the 8350 hasn't beat it. Its 2015 and those cpus came out in 2011. Though we can holy hope that AMD puts some pressure on Intel as its good to have competition.
Exactly since the 900 series has almost been out for a year coming this September. If this new 300 card comes out at the end of June why would anyone want to upgrade to a 300 series card unless it just destroys the 980 for like $450-550???
I dont know I feel like they missed the ball and should have released this in December/January like it was rumored to be.
Yeah you can overclock a xeon processor but not by much. Like others have said you can only overclock the BCLK which also overclocks the ram and other components of the system. So its not totally recommended but you can. Also dont expect a high overclock when overclocking the BCLK (example 3.4 ghz xeon will probably max out at 3.5-3.6 ghz oc with a 103-105 BCLK and then turbo). So really its probably not worth even trying and just accept what you got unless you are really itching to get the most performance.
For the quadro im pretty sure you cant. I currently dont have a guadro in my workstation anymore because they are mad expensive and we transferred to a citix base station. So if i still had it in my pc id try and see but im pretty sure you can.
yeah i agree that gta v uses a ton of vram but man my gtx 770 runs that game like butter with only 2gb vram. I even go way above the 2gb vram limit so im not really sure if thats really accurate.
yeah i haven't cleaned out my pc in like years hahah....i should probably get on that.
Have you tried cleaning the fans/cooler out?
Well obviously the 290x will run better then the 290, so lets just compare the 970 vs 290x. Both will run great at 1080p/ 1440p, but once you get closer to 4k, the 290x has a slight edge over the 970. This wont be the case for ever game as some run better for NVIDIA or AMD. So really it wont really matter what card you get cause the differences are going to be very minimal just that the 970 is a lot newer and NVIDIA releases drivers faster then AMD.
So if i was you'd wait a little longer and see what the 390x/390 have in store before you make the purchase. They are "rumored to be released sometime in June i hear. Though if you want to make a purcahse now you will be fine for a long time with either card. Im still rocking my GTX 770 running a 144 hz monitor and see no reason to upgrade unless i go 4k, which i dont plan too.
No one knows the price of the new 300 series gpus or how good they will be. So as of right now the 295x2 is a pretty good buy if you have a 4k monitor and wont mind a dual gpu card.
then why bother with a 4k video? Youre not actually watching a 4k video on a lesser resolution.
Anyways your CPU is fine to run 4k video but the geforce 9800 gt and AMD Radeon HD 7540D doesnt support 4k resolution only 2560x1600.
a gtx 750TI will support 4k resolution as the cheapest option for nvida and a r7-250x from AMD.
The question should be what GPU do you have? Second do you have a laptop with a 4k monitor on it? Also with your desktop do you have a 4k monitor?
oh yeah for sure the FX-6300 will do just fine with those game. :)
wouldn't hurt to try.
first off you are showing me a overclock of a chip at 5.4 ghz and at like 1.6 volts. This isnt safe for 24/7 clocks and a very rare overclock. Something safe with that chip is like 4.2-4.5 ghz where like 95% of people are able to get.
Secondly AC games are poorly optimized and run like junk on any CPU/GPU.
nope streaming uses cores and hyperthreading as to why the pentium is struggling because its running out of resources. Most games still only use 2 cores to play (yes some can use 4-6 cores but its still pretty rare). Lets just say the game is only using 2 cores to play then OBS will utilize core 3/4 more to compress the file instead of core 1/2. With the FX-8350 and i7 you have 8 threads so it will pretty much use the cores need to run the game and obs will use whatever isnt utilized. AKA why the i7 is the best streaming CPU. Even though the i7 is the best CPU for streaming that doesnt mean a quad core cant stream, because most games still wont utilize all 4 cores at 100%. OBS will use like 10-15% of your cpu to stream at 720p 60fps as an estimate for a i5 (thats what im getting with a 3570k with most games). From my experience the hardest game to stream is BF4 (i dont know about hardline because i dont own it) but i didnt have a problem with my i5.
So yes the FX-6300 and i5 (within sandy and up) are great budget minded CPUS for streaming.
well i have no idea what motherboard he has. To overclock a FX chip as high as you are kind of saying to compete with an i5 then he'll have to get a 990FX board or something pretty good which isnt very cheap. You are already over like $250 dollars, this is including cooler board and cpu. No matter what its not within a $100 budget.
Honestly the best option to never have a CPU bottleneck with any gpu and run any game perfectly fine while streaming is a Xeon E3-1230 V2. Its a i7 at a i5 price and they will run on like 90% of all intel boards.
true but he could still get a ivy bridge CPU which will be 10-15% slower clock for clock then haswell. The price of a 3570k on ebay go for like $180 if he has a z motherboard or go for a E3-1230 V2 for around $220. Im just thinking thats the cheapest option instead of going new board/cpu combo. Any i5 within sandy and ivy will be better then a FN2 chip or a fx-6300 since the FX-6300 is also a old.
well since you already have an Intel chip why not just save up for an i5? That will be head and heals better then the Pentium at streaming.
FYI - ive seen very few streamers using the FX-6300 unless they are just streaming a console and not gaming/streaming on the same machine. But if you are very interested in streaming and gaming using just those CPU's then the FX-6300 wins IMO.
Oh no problem I just have like 15 years of experience on cad and civil 3d. I've used it on a old pentium 4 and a 6 core xenon with ht and had like minimal improvement. Biggest thing for cad is ram and ssd. I just wish they would implicate the use of more cores because the damn program still is kind of broken when implicating a lot of 3d aspects. You get a ton of crashes lol. Anyways great build!!!