Ok so what's your point?
The titan, titan black and titan z aren't really geared for gaming. They are more as a developer card with the potential to game.
Well the 290x beats the 770 in every game, but if you plan to not go above 1080p. The 770 will probably be the better buy as the 290x might be a slight overkill.
Yeah what cooperred said. Really both of those CPUS are kind of blah but it all depends on the iGPU with the laptop.
Yeah I as well had a horrible experience with CF. Nothing but tons of added heat!!!
Id assume he didn't actually buy ultimate......
I have the 650w version of that PSU and have owned it for 3 years now with 0 problems. Yes cooler master isn't corsair or seasonic when it comes to PSU's, but they still use pretty good components. 5 year warranty from a trusted company can't be that bad of a buy. Only bad thing about that PSU is the price, could have gotten a Corsair 450 for less.
Cant go wrong with NVIDIA but for the price AMD seems like the better option. Anything above a 280x/770 will run 90% of current games at ultra 1080p.
hahah your going to hate me but most people would recommend a 990FX motherboard with a 8000 series CPU.
That's a pointless upgrade as it only has a slightly higher frequency then the 6300.
A SLI GTX 760 will be similar to a GTX 780TI which is a very powerful card. Any reason for the upgrade other then why not? I mean you can totally give it a shot but id guess the FX-6300 will probably hold you back and the upgrade wouldn't be worth it.
Just looking at some builds on this site, the best GPU i see with that CPU is a GTX 770, 280x or 7970. The SLI 760 would outperform all those cards.
Edit: Just searching online people say it wouldnt bottlneck if you OC the CPU to like 4.5 GHZ. So I guess give it a shot.
Yes but im not sure its worth trying with a FX-6300. I'd upgrade that CPU to a 8320 at least.
I'm a Civil Engineer that uses Civil 3D every day and I cant tell you pretty much a iGPU can run Cad just fine. Yes, a dedicated GPU would be better, but for high school I'm sure your project won't consist of an entire University that includes 500k of survey shots with corridors, pipe network, landscape, buildings, profiles, and truck turns. At my office we still have some Engineers running off of Pentium D that can still work on a 250 lot subdivision just as fast as my E3-1230 V2 with quatro GPU.
So just build yourself a gaming computer and CAD will run fine on it.
Major flaw with people who will persuade you to buy a i7 for CAD is that, CAD is still a single threaded application. So a i3 and a i7 will run the exact same if they are at the same frequency.
Thank you for your reply. I actually found that answer on a different site. Ugh it just seems like a pointless confusing CPU launched that has like 50 i-4*** cpus, no one will seem to know what to choose now.
Honestly if that's the build you plan to buy, then why not get an i7?
If you plan to go 1440p you should look 780 or 290. The 3gb of ram in the 280x won't make a difference.
7870 ghz is more the 270x and not the 270. The 270 is a little better the a 7850 and a little less then a 7870 non ghz.
Why not save a little with an 760k instead of the 6300 and see if you can at least get a 750ti or 265.
I have a E3 in one of my builds with a EVO. Yeah it kind of is a pointless buy since the cpu runs really cool, but for 30 why not I guess. Don't expect Temps to go above 50 at all.
They are pretty hard to come by as not many benchmark reviewers review OC cards. Just to do some similarities between the 290 vs 290x the only difference is Stream Processors. The 290x has only 256 stream processors more than a 290. So one would assume if you get similar clock speeds both cards should perform close to each other +/-. So if you get a great 290 then one would assume it would perform better then a average OC 290X. I don't own both cards so i cant benchmark. I love to see more of this type of benchmarking to be honest.
Those number from that site are all stock clock speeds of a 290X. Yes the 290X stock can outperform a 780 in some games, but when both are overclocked the 780 is the better card. The 290X doesnt overclock that well unless you get watercooler and so on. So if you are a overclocker then 780 is worth it.
A stock 780 with the reference cooler comes clocked at 863 Mhz and the highest clocked 780 is 1.01 MHz. This is all without GPU Boost 2.0 resuslts. So most benchmarks with stock results will benchmark a 863 Mhz GPU.
Now with the 290 vs the 290X i was comparing both of them being overclocked. With both being overclocked i have seen benchmarks showing the 290 performing better then the 290X. This could be that the 290X was a bad card of the bunch or the 290 was a hidden gem.
All those games in that benchmark are AMD games as well hahah.
last i heard is not till late 2014. Then other rumors say tomorrow.
Sorry but I'm not a good source hahaha.
If i were to assume release date id say late 2014. AMD hasnt shown anything that has cause NVIDIA to release anything. So once we see a roadmap from AMD NVIDIA will probably release 800 series.
The R9-290X is more comparable to the GTX 780 not the 780TI. The 780TI is more or less if you want the fastest card on the market and feel like spending $650. AMD has done the exact same thing with the 290X X2, as i see no reason for it being $1500 when you can get similar performance with 2 290X at $1000. They are priced for bragging rights.
Really the best priced card is the R9-290 non X, that's if you get a non reference card. Priced at $400 with similar performance as the X and 780 for $100 less. If overclocked they can outperform most 290X overclcocked.
One thing to note is that the 780 does overclock a lot and will outperform any 290x overclocked. So one could say the 290x is overpriced or the 780 is just a better buy.
You wouldn't notice anything different. My card is only clocked .05 mhz more anyways.
Because a 280x or 770 will play ever game maxed out with fps above 60. The 780 and 290x are designed more for 1440p.
You can always get a r9-290 non x and overclock it. I have seen enough benchmarks showing that the 290 will perform similar or better then a overclcocked 290x.
Now are you going to be gaming on a 1440p monitor? If not dont even bother with these cards unless you plan to upgrade within 6 months.
What GTX 770 are you even looking at? My Gigabyte GTX 770 2gb OC gives me 65-100 fps on ultra with AA all maxed out using a 27" 1200p monitor. Yes the GTX 770 is more then enough for that resolution anything more is wasting money. The GTX 760, you will have to lower AA just slightly.
Not much in the way of being excited unless they make a APU that has similar performance of a i5-2500k and a HD 7850.
I stand corrected.
Thank you sir.
1) Yes I agree the 4670k is the better CPU to buy, but he got a locked MB so you cant overclock. So it probably would have been better to go with the 4570 as its $45 less and you wouldn't notice much of a difference.
2)Yes 16 gb does give you room for upgradeability but for gaming its completely pointless unless you are into video editing and such.
3) 750w PSU is overkill for the build he has now. First you cant SLI a GTX 750 and those cards only use 60W anyways. Second that MB only supports 6 Sata ports with a maximum of 120w of HDD. So yes the 750W is nice but he will never come close to it on this build, but maybe on his second. 650W PUS is plenty for even a GTX 780TI 1 SSD and 2 HDD's.
5)I was just pointing out the fact that he some how spent 1k without the SSD and HDD which would have at least costed an extra $130. Money was just spent in the wrong areas for a PC that has no upgradabilty. Only thing you can upgrade is the GPU and that's it, which isn't bad in the long run.
Thats some cooler
Dude I hate to be that guy but really? You should have asked more questions before you built this PC.
A 4670k paired with a non overclocking MB and a H100i
Do you really need $160 worth or ram? Yes the ram looks nice but you overspent a lot!!
Then the PSU is overkill.
You could have saved at least $240 and thrown that to a better GPU like a GTX 770 or 280X.
Good job on your frist build but for 1k and no SSD/HDD this is a bad build. :'(
http://choosemypc.net/ (For future needs and quick builds)
For your price range this would be the best card to get.
Since no one is answering your question ill go and answer it. Yes the dual Core CPU will be fine for those game. I have a similar Intel Dual Core E7400 at 2.8 Ghz paired with a HD 4850 1gb and it plays all my games at 1080p on low settings, Yes, including BF4.
Do i recommend playing games with a cpu like that? No, as i usually play on my other Gaming PC but it can be done. Now for the Loadout and TF games you will get around 60 FPS at 1080p and see very little in the way of bottlneck. Those games were specifically designed for lower end PC's as a reason for it being free. Get your self a used GTX 650 or HD 7770 and call it a day.
A GTX 770 will play BF on Ultra with AA on at 1200p with FPS that range from 55-90FPS. So no the GTX 660 will not pull that off with ultra and all the bells and whistles on. Maybe on high and AA off you will get the best playable rates.
Wow those volts are high for 4.2. With my 3570k at 4.2 my volts are at 1.1 and at 4.5 1.25. Ivy for the win :)
It shouldn't be your motherboard. It fits as the fan does spin.
honestly i have no idea. Does the fan at least spin when you turn your computer on? (the fan on the card)
I say this because maybe your power supply cant generate enough power to power the GPU. Other option is that the cad is dead which does happen. Id give a call to customer service to see if they can do anything.
did you connect your monitor to the GPU? (I know stupid question)
Well that GPU only uses 60 watts. You might be fine since it really doesn't use much, but stock PSU's aren't the greatest.
best thing to do is open up your case and take a look.
Plus 3.0 is backwards compatible. Since the 270X is a nice GPU it isn't the fastest and you wont see any bottleneck with a 3.0 card in a 2.0 PCie slot. Even a 780Ti wont be bottleneck.
So yes im 99.9999999% sure you have a 3.0 slot.
Where do you see that price at staples?
Since you are using a Haswell CPU id assume its a PCIe 3.0 slot. Next the PSU will need a little of a upgrade. If you are planning to get a 270X at least get a CX500 PSU.
FYI I have seen R9-280X on amazon for around $200 used.
Wow a 10-15% is a pretty big price drop. That would make the 4670k at $195 and the 4770k $288. Looking at the past with Ivy Bridge and Sandy Bridge makes it seem like they wont have a price drop, but the new CPU will increase by $5-10.
Depends on how much multitasking you plan to do. Very little i5; maybe a little more 8350; a lot 6 core i7.
I dont really understand why you'd be multitasking while playing a game? Unless you are steaming video what else would you be doing? Converting video files? I'm sure any CPU would just be brought to the max if you were doing that.
Yeah BF4 uses 6 cores, but i haven't seen any benchmarks of a 8 core or I7 producing more FPS with the same GPU.
is this the card you own? You can buy them used which is a better option if you really want to CF. I personally would stay as far away from it as you can. I was a CF owner and couldn't stand it, but thats up to you.