The gtx 770 4gb is just pointless period. Even the 780ti cant use the full 3gb at 4k resolution.
according to your source if both cards only had 2gb they probably would still give the same FPS. Its a debate that has been going on and on.
This benchmark has 780ti being better.
If you look at the last page you will see the ram has nothing to do with it.
Basally it just saids both cards aren't fast enough you use the ram. That's why 4gb cards are kind of pointless today.
So to answer the question 2gb is plenty for 1080p gaming.
I'd take a 780ti over a 290x 4gb any day at 4k. So not sure if your statement is fact.
The 780 will outperform any 770. You cant just look at clock speeds and ram to be defining line. The 780 uses a totally different architecture that is just faster than the 770.
yes h100i is a liquid cooler but it's also cooled buy air from the fans. The h212 evo is only air cooled by a fan or 2.
At one point you could flash a r9-290 to a 290x. So I'm guessing really nothing other then price. Most benchmarks I have seen the 290 runs slightly better then a 290x both being overclocked.
SSD has very little gains if you are using it for gaming. Yes your maps will load faster but you can only have 1-2 games on a SSD. FPS will not increase being on a SSD.
SSD's are great and make the experience of using the OS(PC) that much better, but for gaming its really not worth it if it will hinder other more important items via GPU!!!
Yes, I have a 3570k and a h212 over clocked to 4.5 ghz. I never keep it at 4.5 since gaming really never needs it. I keep it at 4.2. But yes 4.5 can be done on air.
Today's cpus are fast and overclocking won't get you more fps but a better gpu will. That's why I'm saying ditch the h100 to get a better gpu.
Honestly I'd ditch the h100i and just get a h212 with a gtx 770. First time builder is probably first time overclocker. So if you plan to go after 4.6-4.8 maybe the h100i could be wroth it but 4.5 can be done with air.
Well since its only spring and Intel should be releasing some new refresh CPU's soon and maybe Broadwell later on. It might be best to build your computer closer to the summer then now. Plus the GTX 760 might be old news come summer as well with Maxwell.
haha wow (facepalm). Then to answer question apu<6300<8320<8350/4670k<i7. comes down to price really.
I've own both and enjoyed both. I've even had Crossfire 7850's before and never had drive issues. It really comes down to price as what is the best GPU for the best price. That's the reason why i went with the GTX 770 over the R9-280X.
The only beef i have with AMD is that they don't support their GPU's as long as NVIDIA. I still own a HD4850 for my media center and once the windows 8.1 update was released I updated before checking for drivers (My Fault). Basically i had to downgrade to windows 7 to be able to use my media center correctly. Im pretty sure a lot of people complained because eventually they did update a driver to be used.
AMD is up to Beta 4.3 and driver 13.12. The HD 4850 can only use 13.9. Yes i know its like a 5 year old GPU but still!! A NVIDIA gpu like the 9800 which is the same age is still getting updates. So thats my only beef with AMD if you plan to keep a GPU as long as i have.
If you maybe get the e3-1230v2 then maybe yes. But for the price the i7 is better via overclocking.
True, but for $218 with CPU+GPU an 7850k would have very similar performance with games, It could even be better.
Nice build but probably should have went with a APU so you can get a mini ITX board/case. 6 cores will be just sitting and waiting when you're watching movies.
Let me know when you find a GTX 780 "4GB".
Go on MSI's website and see if its compatible. PCPARTPICKER isn't very reliable.
The 8320 can support a gtx 780. It's the exact same thing as a 8350 just clocked a little slower. It's not like it's light years behind a 3570k that can support sli 780ti. A fx 6300 could support a gtx 780.
Whats your question then? Really no point in building a PC with this CPU anymore, if that's what you are asking.
This top comes up almost every day. 4gb is pointless for a gtx 770.
i think its a switch on top of the card. Uber mode is for higher temps i think.
You are correct they should be $180. Ever since the bitcoin minning took off all AMD cards doubled in price. So its not worth buying really any AMD cards at the moment unless you find one at a good price.
Well tell your heart that the GTX 770 is the better buy.
At that price, get a GTX 780 and call it a day.
gtx 770 4gb is pointless. I haven't seen any benchmarks where the 4gb out performed the 2gb version at any resolution.
Yep that board will work fine.
Well usually i pick the manufactures i like. (ASUS, ASROCK, Gigabyte and MSI) Then i look at PCI-E slots on how many i would like. Then i look at what onboard audio it has. Really with a non overclocking motherboard anything from like $80 will work just fine.
Whats your price range? Any decent h87 board would be fine.
Honestly if youre not in the market of a 4670k, mind as well just get a 4440. It's $35 cheaper then a 4670 and you wont notice a difference in speed and it wont bottleneck any gpu/gpu's on the market.
It depends on what cooler you have for the 290. Side fans should be exhaust, so if you have a reference 290 then yes. If you have a non reference than its better.
Some of those thermal temps seem pretty low. I know 105 Celsius isn't ideal, but really haswell and ivy can run at 80 fine with prime 95.
That's the stock gtx 770 cooler. You don't get it you buy the stock gtx 770. But for the gtx 770's they are over priced.
I have a 1200p monitor as well with a gtx 770 and it maxes everything out.
Id find the motherboard you want then go to the manufactures website and see if it supports the CPU. Yes most MB's should support those chips.
This website isnt the most trusted information. I know for sure that the Asrock extreme 4 2011 supports all the xeons and thats the cheapest 2011 MB.
I didn't know the 4770k was my favorit processor thanks for letting me know. FYI I own a 3570k, E3-1230 V3 and 5800k. But yeah my favorite is the 4770k :)
yes in theory
other than supporting more ram, full pci lanes and a 6 core processor then what? someone needs to rethink what they are saying. OP isn't in the market of a 6 core processor and probably not into 32+ gigs of ram. so please explain to me why he would need a x79 when its a 3 year old chipset.
Well the Gigabyte will perform slightly better than the ASUS due to higher clock speeds, but they will be within a fps of each other. Temps im not sure but im sure they both will be within a degree of each other as well.
I own the Gigabyte version and it never gets close to 80 degrees and boosts up to 1247 mhz. It pretty much limits any custom overclock since you will not notice any FPS gains. I have overclocked this GPU to 1350 mhz and saw 2-3 fps but i'm not even sure if that's accurate. Really no point in aftermarket overclocking these cards IMO.
Bottom line - both cards are great, id just get the cheapest one or one that fits your build better..aka color.
Yes it will fit but you will have to remove the top HDD cage. If you decide you dont want to remove that HDD cage you can also get this GPU....http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n7602gd5ocitx
hope this helps.
Yes the i5-4570 has a turbo boost. The i5-4750 has a base clock of 3.2 GHz and a boost of 3.6 GHz that is integrated into the CPU. This works for every 1150 boards. (You can turn off/on turbo boost in the bios-default is on)
Now turbo boost isn't the same as overclocking a CPU. Intel turbo boost only boosts up 2 cores and it isn't at the full 3.6 GHz, but somewhere near 3.4 GHz. The only time that CPU will hit 3.6 GHz if you are running a single threaded application then that one core will boost up to 3.6 GHz for the time needed to finish the process.
So to compare a 4670k overclocked to 3.6 GHz and the 4570 at its stock using turbo boost, the 4670k would win because all 4 cores are at 3.6 GHz. Now I’m not saying you need a 4670k, because the 4570 is a great CPU and will not be bottlenecked by any GPU and overclocking is kind of pointless for games anyways. These CPU's are fast to begin with and you can run GTX 780TI in SLI without any decreases in FPS vs a highly overclocked 4670k.
yeah water cooling your 780's will have higher gains then changing of processor.
Its ok. I was just wondering why you wanted to upgrade since the 3770k 4770k and 4820k are all very close to each other In performance.
As for answering your question, the 4770k hands down. The z87 chipset is far newer and has better tech built into them. Only reason for x79 is if you ever plan to get a 6 core processor.
why replace the 3770k? You will see very very little gains going to either chip.
Well you have gtx 750 and ti
R9-270, r7-260x and r7-265.
The r9-270 will perform the best.
The 770 and 780 are completely different architectures. You can't and will never be able to overclock a 770 to 780 levels. The 780 780ti and titan are similar with minor differences.