Well usually i pick the manufactures i like. (ASUS, ASROCK, Gigabyte and MSI) Then i look at PCI-E slots on how many i would like. Then i look at what onboard audio it has. Really with a non overclocking motherboard anything from like $80 will work just fine.
Whats your price range? Any decent h87 board would be fine.
Honestly if youre not in the market of a 4670k, mind as well just get a 4440. It's $35 cheaper then a 4670 and you wont notice a difference in speed and it wont bottleneck any gpu/gpu's on the market.
It depends on what cooler you have for the 290. Side fans should be exhaust, so if you have a reference 290 then yes. If you have a non reference than its better.
Some of those thermal temps seem pretty low. I know 105 Celsius isn't ideal, but really haswell and ivy can run at 80 fine with prime 95.
That's the stock gtx 770 cooler. You don't get it you buy the stock gtx 770. But for the gtx 770's they are over priced.
I have a 1200p monitor as well with a gtx 770 and it maxes everything out.
Id find the motherboard you want then go to the manufactures website and see if it supports the CPU. Yes most MB's should support those chips.
This website isnt the most trusted information. I know for sure that the Asrock extreme 4 2011 supports all the xeons and thats the cheapest 2011 MB.
I didn't know the 4770k was my favorit processor thanks for letting me know. FYI I own a 3570k, E3-1230 V3 and 5800k. But yeah my favorite is the 4770k :)
yes in theory
other than supporting more ram, full pci lanes and a 6 core processor then what? someone needs to rethink what they are saying. OP isn't in the market of a 6 core processor and probably not into 32+ gigs of ram. so please explain to me why he would need a x79 when its a 3 year old chipset.
Well the Gigabyte will perform slightly better than the ASUS due to higher clock speeds, but they will be within a fps of each other. Temps im not sure but im sure they both will be within a degree of each other as well.
I own the Gigabyte version and it never gets close to 80 degrees and boosts up to 1247 mhz. It pretty much limits any custom overclock since you will not notice any FPS gains. I have overclocked this GPU to 1350 mhz and saw 2-3 fps but i'm not even sure if that's accurate. Really no point in aftermarket overclocking these cards IMO.
Bottom line - both cards are great, id just get the cheapest one or one that fits your build better..aka color.
Yes it will fit but you will have to remove the top HDD cage. If you decide you dont want to remove that HDD cage you can also get this GPU....http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n7602gd5ocitx
hope this helps.
Yes the i5-4570 has a turbo boost. The i5-4750 has a base clock of 3.2 GHz and a boost of 3.6 GHz that is integrated into the CPU. This works for every 1150 boards. (You can turn off/on turbo boost in the bios-default is on)
Now turbo boost isn't the same as overclocking a CPU. Intel turbo boost only boosts up 2 cores and it isn't at the full 3.6 GHz, but somewhere near 3.4 GHz. The only time that CPU will hit 3.6 GHz if you are running a single threaded application then that one core will boost up to 3.6 GHz for the time needed to finish the process.
So to compare a 4670k overclocked to 3.6 GHz and the 4570 at its stock using turbo boost, the 4670k would win because all 4 cores are at 3.6 GHz. Now I’m not saying you need a 4670k, because the 4570 is a great CPU and will not be bottlenecked by any GPU and overclocking is kind of pointless for games anyways. These CPU's are fast to begin with and you can run GTX 780TI in SLI without any decreases in FPS vs a highly overclocked 4670k.
yeah water cooling your 780's will have higher gains then changing of processor.
Its ok. I was just wondering why you wanted to upgrade since the 3770k 4770k and 4820k are all very close to each other In performance.
As for answering your question, the 4770k hands down. The z87 chipset is far newer and has better tech built into them. Only reason for x79 is if you ever plan to get a 6 core processor.
why replace the 3770k? You will see very very little gains going to either chip.
Well you have gtx 750 and ti
R9-270, r7-260x and r7-265.
The r9-270 will perform the best.
The 770 and 780 are completely different architectures. You can't and will never be able to overclock a 770 to 780 levels. The 780 780ti and titan are similar with minor differences.
Yeah sorry that's what I meant...hahah
256 bit can't use 4 gb...that's why I don't understand why people even bother with the 4gb models of 760, 770 and 680.
You are wasting money if you are buying the 4Gb version of the gtx 770 to only play at 1080p. Look up benchmarks that show no difference between the 2 at 1440p res. The only time I'd think it's worth it if you only play skyrim with 3 1440p monitors in sli.
I'd go with the ASUS GPU because it matches your build. The ASUS GPU will overclock to the Gigabyte speed anyways but at stock the Gigabyte will be a little slower. Were only talking about a 2 FPS difference.
I own a gigabyte GTX 770 and the card performs great. Now since the GTX 770 is just a overclocked GTX 680 and the non reference cards are overclocked even more the FPS gains are almost non existent. I have even overclocked my GTX 770 an extra 100 MHz on GPu and 150 on ram and noticed no FPS gains. So really either one will perform the same with maybe a FPS here or there.
Well that question is kind of hard to answer. I7's are still quad core CPU's just like the i5’s except that the i7 has hyperthreading. As far as I’m aware of no games use hyperthreading, but if you do a lot of Adobe products, compressions plus video editing then hyperthreading will be worth it. If you never use that stuff then you will probably never see a difference in speed.
Now if games start using hyperthreading then yes the i7 will be worth it. I’m by no means a game developer so I can’t tell you if games will ever use it. But if I had the money that still allowed me to get a gtx 780 or above id buy an i7. I just think don’t waste the extra money if it hurts you on the GPU.
Now for DDR4 I think that’s mostly for Haswell-E? Those are the more expensive i7 processors with the very expensive boards. Who knows with DDR4 or what it will bring to the table except for nothing really supporting it and expensive DIMS.
I own a GTX 770 and it pretty much just maxes everything. Im sure the GTX 760 will do about the same with maybe turning down AA in a few games. So yes its a great card to get at a great price.
This.....i7's are a waste of money for pure gaming and everyday tasks. That extra $100 should be put into a gpu.
If you really need or want the 4770 non k I'd look into a EE3-1230 V3 instead. It's the exact same thing with out integrated gpu at a i5 price. Yes, xeons can game and they do well at it.
Well the asrock extreme 4 is at that price. I'm not sure about the over clocking abilities of Haswell as I own a 3570k but I'd assume it can reach 4.2 easily. Really no point to go beyond that.
It's a very good board and cpu but the price of a 4670k and z87 is pretty much the exact same.
Future-proof does not exist, so don't try to convince your self that. Personally i don't think Broadwell will be released for a while and when it does i think the performance will be 10% better but be more power efficient. Reason why i think that is because they don't need to make anything better. If they released a product that is night and day better than Haswell then the price would be extremely expensive and Intel probably wouldn't release anything new for a long time.
To kind of answer you question any i5 and above will last you a long time. The i7-920 can still be paired with SLI GTX-780TI without any bottleneck and that's a 6 year old processor. So before a 4670k becomes worthless it will take a bit of time. Right now if money isnt a option you can quad SLI GTX-780TI without a bottlneck. So before think how long it will be before you can buy that much power into a single $200 card? Id guess 5 years?
Try this site out and then tweak your build to your liking.
This was on the 20th. Who really knows with Intel, they will never release info. But usually when new products are about to be released they release new motherboard first and nothing of that has come up.
With AMD not releasing a FX steamroller CPU that probably left intel to sit back and relax. Broadwell seems like another one of those 10% gains but maybe overclock better CPU's anyways.
Next chip I get will be a 6 core intel if they ever release one at a $200 price point. Honestly from a i7-920 to now has very little gains in CPU performance. Yes, Haswell is faster but its not like generation to generation faster. So id just get whats out now or you will constantly be waiting.
Source to what? Broadwell being delayed or Haswell Refresh?
Raids can become very complicated. Its best to have the exact same 2+ drives and speed.
Raid 1 is a mirror which 1Tb + 1Tb is only 1TB. Its not meant for backup of any sort. It's best to have 1TB +1Tb raid 1 plus back up of 1TB. If I was you id just back up your storage on one of the drives and not bother with raid. If you ever plan to move your drives from one computer to the next (assuming you are using the raid drives built into the motherboard) you are SOL. But if you build this raid with a Raid card you can move the drives from computer to computer unless the raid card dies then you are sol.
Mantle is for a CPU bottleneck. If that isn't a issue mantle only increases like 2-3 fps. It isn't a game breaker....yet.....
The gtx 790 is only a rumor with the worst photo shop job. Probably will never be released.
Well the GTX 770 runs BF4 easily
So really R9-270, 270x, GTX 760 will run the game fine.
Why not the GTX 770 since its cheaper? Yes I know 280X supports mantle but with a decent cpu you will be well above 60 fps on ultra 1080p to the point mantle will be pointless other than bragging rights.
Probably not since like 2 games use more than 4 cores, but it doesn't hurt since they are so close in price. The best thing about the 8320 is that you can overclock it to 4.0ghz and you now have a free 8350 (sorta).
Yes. Search AM3+ and cheapest motherboard has hd3000 graphics.it doesn't hurt looking yourself ya know?
I'm pretty sure a lot of AM3+ motherboards have integrated graphics. So yes you can run a 6300 without a video card.
EVGA is a good card!! They have that buy up thing with their cards. Maybe someone else can explain it or go on there website, but it basically means you can buy the 780 and if you want a 780TI within (I think 30 days) you just pay the difference of the price not the full price.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2Zj8E (Around 2k? sorry I forgot the put the EVGA card in the build)
yeah 32 gigs will probably be overkill.
Nothing is wrong with the montherboard, its a really good board just that it supports overclocking and you had a non k CPU that cant overclock. That's why I questioned it. Overclocking today is extremely easy, so id recommend getting a K CPU over a non. Also if you plan to pretty much only use your Computer to game and not much else no reason to get 16 gigs of ram or the i7 as the i5 will perform the same.
Im only giving you these options to see if you can cut costs to fit in a 780 TI into your build. I am not mocking or putting down your build you had.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2Mxt1 (this link is from the site http://www.choosemypc.net/ I know the ram and case can cause some questioning but for 2k you can do a lot!!!)
The 780TI is a very nice card but for the price a 780 is the better buy. Id say stay with a 780 if you don't have enough cash.
Why a locked 4770 and a z87 motherboard? You can either get a 4670k and overclock it to 4.2-4.3 and have similar performance of a 4770 for multithreaded apps and have faster single thread performance. Another option is a E3-1230 V3.
You can get a 2 tb from Seagate for a lot less and have the same performance of a black edition.
If you make those changes maybe you can fit in a 780TI.
Last thing, don't buy a GTX 770 4gb card unless you know you will be going SLI. The 2 gb and 4gb perform the exact same and its a waste of money. If you are spending close to $400 then just save a little to get a 780, cause it will walk all over a 770 anyways.
What monitor are you planning to use or buy? Im asking this because if you are using 1 1080p monitor then maybe you shouldn't look at a 780TI.
Im not trying to be rude or anything i just think you were over paying for pretty much everything in your build.
No for i3 for gaming
the 8 gigs of ram you had is very nice but its pretty pricey
the WD black are nice but for close to $90???
R9-270x is a great card but for $250 even being a 4 gig card is over priced. The GTX 760 will perform better.
The Fractal Case is one of my fave but for 120 its killing your build
Power supply was fine but a little expensive.
Your build was good but expensive in certain parts.