I heard a rumor about the 1700 going down to $159. When did that actually happen? I dont even need a computer but for that ya know.
Like Kente said. Its really up to you. Its probably going to cost somewhere around $450 like the i7-7820X is. We know its not going to game any better than the 8700k since the 8600K and 8700k game at the same FPS with a similar GPU. Atleast in the summer of 2018. Really is going to come down to if you need 8C/16T with streaming and content creation.
Planning on either using an Asus 1080Ti Trubo or 2 EVGA 1080SC2's
Planning on either using an Asus 1080Ti Trubo or 2 EVGA 1080SC2's
I bought the 3570k over the 3770k back in 2012. Had it overclocked to 4.4 ghz since day 1. It was great but recently 4C/4T arent enough and the 3770K with the 4C/8T is just better at gaming. Bought the 3570k for $220 in 2012 and sold it in the summer of 2017 for $66. Then bought a 3770K for $150 used. So technically I bought the 3770k for $304. I guess I saved myself $10-15 if i were to just buy the 3770k back in 2012.
So IMO if you dont plan to keep your computer long like 2-3 years. Then the 8600K should be more than enough. But if you plan to keep it like I've kepty my Z77 setup. Then def the 8700k.
Wait, you dont want that card because it doesnt have RGB? The two cards you just posted dont have RGB and the 1080TI doesnt even have lights. Im confused.
Probably because you can find 1700's for 200 dollars.
Yeah the 2600X with really any GPU will do just fine with streaming. If you plan to stream using X264 then the cheapest GPU you can find will be fine as it wont be used other than giving you a picture on your monitor. If you plan to game and stream at the same time. Then depends on what graphic setting you want to game at. GPU or VRAM really has nothing to do with streaming.
Streaming games being played on a PS4? Then really any GPU just to get picture would be fine. You'd just need a capture card for the PS4 to the PC.
ahh yeah forgot about the 300 series cards.
Nothing like NVIDIA with the GeForce 9 Series cards with a naming scheme of 9000. Then releasing the GeForce 200 seires next. Names are just names within the tech world. AMD has done the exact same thing with a Radeon 400 seires. Were is the 100-300 series cards? Or when they went from the 7000 series to a R9-200?
Everyone keeps saying EVGA has great customer service. But how many of these cards actually have problems that you need customer service? Just wondering.
If it was used for Mining I'd skip unless its like $100. I've bought tons of used parts before and never had issues.
When I use to play fortnite, I would get 150fps with basically everything on medium and AA off. This was with a zotac mini 6gb overclocked to 2000mhz and 9000 mhz on the ram. Portal 2 with everything maxed will be like 250+. The other games I dont play.
No this won't cause issues. Also, plenty of 1700's can do 3.7 ghz around stock voltages.
Even if its as good as haswell/skylake it would still be great.
Rather just see
i3's with 4 cores 8 threads ($150)
i5's with 6 cores 12 threads ($250)
i7's with 8 cores 16 threads ($350)
Then i9s can be on the workstation platform with 8+ cores
Only report is a possible 8 core Coffee Lake CPU with a Z390 chipset. It's just going to be a refesh like haswell and Devils Canyon was. I'd guss this 8 core CPU comes out around holidays and then nothing really new from Intel for another 1.5 years +/-. Since you are only looking at a i5 i just buy that now and not worry about anything in the near future.
Reddit said yes. Im not sure why it wouldnt work?
They why not just look at a 1600-2600X? Thats a really good streaming CPU for a budget. What games are you even trying to stream? Because a i5-8400 can stream just fine unless you are going to stream very CPU intensive titles AKA PUBG.
Like Gilroar said, It's really dependent on game, quality and resolution. Like say you plan to stream Battlefield 1 at ultra with 200 fps limt. Well, your CPU will be near 100%. If you turn the FPS limit down to say 60fps then your CPU will drop to near half in use.
Just by going into Add and Remove and uninstall all the programs you dont want. The best way to get rid of it all is to do a compelete reformate of the system with a fresh copy of windows 10. If you choose to go that route you will lose all your programs/information so I'd back that up with a external or second harddrive. You dont need a CD key of windows 10 as they will know its been alreay installed on the system. Use this to create a bootable disk or USB.
Another way is to reset your PC and that will restore windows and keep your files.
Uninstall McAfee and just use windows Defender if you are on windows 10.
Might want to upgrade that PSU as well if you plan to go SLI. Also SLI 970's if working correctly will be about a single GTX 1070 performance +/-. Yes, 1070's are still overpriced IMO but if the new NVIDIA 1100 series gets released this summer you might find that a 1160 will perform similar to a 1070. One would assume that a 1160 will be priced around $250-300.
Also two 4 gig VRAM GPU's dont make 8 Gigs. They are still considered 4 gigs of VRAM if you didnt know. More and more games are using 4 plus gigs these days.
So is 4266 mhz when ryzen gen one has issues with 3200 mhz. basically just spending money to spend.
Not worth the money. You'll need a minimum of a CPU and Motherboard plus windows. About a 400-500 dollar upgrade for what? 10 FPS +/- if you currenlty have a GTX 1080 TI.
Its well ok
Could just use geforce experience to see what they come up with for optimization. It should be getting around 100+/- fps on everything low with that system.
Well then you need to answer the question if you plan to use your system for making money then you should go the quadro route. You are already spending 2-4k on a program. Gaming isnt nearly as intensive as a model that you are creating. All quadros can game depending how good of one you plan to buy.
Quadro can game just as well as GeForce. The problem with quadro over GeForce is that the price is about 5x more expensive for a similar card within the GeForce lineup. Yes, the quadros will outperform GeForce on CAD programs but if you plan to do other stuff with your computer then just get a GeForce. GeForce is more than capable to run Autodesk programs. Also, you won’t notice a difference between GeForce than a quadro unless you have like a huge and I mean huge project that has millions if not billions of lines.
I'm a civil engineer and I work specifically with Civil 3D and with my work experience I’ve never noticed a huge difference between quadro and GeForce. I also do a lot of surface models with corridors and it’s never really a huge deal. You’re really just paying for a more stable driver than actual performance. It’s like comparing intel "i" series vs "xeons".
You can't answer that question. It really depends on the game and resolution. Some games will run great like Doom and other games it wont matter what CPU or GPU you have aka csgo. IMO you shouldnt worry about the 1070TI paried with a 6600k. That cpu is plenty for a 1070TI.
TDP is only relevant for stock clocks. The min you overclock the TDP will increase. Only reason to get the 2600X is the guarantee 4.0ghz boost clock on all cores with a single boost of about 4.3 and a better cooler. Yes, you can probably overclock the 2600 with a better cooler to say 4.2ghz(max) but still it’s not like it’s going to be worlds better than a stock 2600X. So IMO if you dont have a cooler the 2600X is the better buy.
Because the compeition hasnt released anything for them to release anything new. We could be waiting till next year this time before Nvidia releases anything new.
Yes, the i9 and ryzen 2700x can game at 1080p 60fps while gaming at max settings dependent if the game is well ported and you have a GTX 1080TI installed. Do you need one over the other? No, and both are overkill for just gaming and streaming. But if money isn’t an issue, then just get the i9 as its better. Do expect to spend about twice as much with a i9 setup over the ryzen.
Streaming isn’t that hard on your system that ppl try and make it out to be. You don’t need a $1000 cpu to stream and there are plenty of other ways to stream that don’t need X264 encoder. Yes, the X264 encoder will give you the best result but its not IMO worth spending crazy amount of money for a beast of a CPU over NVENC and a i5-8400 or something similar.
Yes i understand that but i was saying that your CPU you have now is fine and upgrading would be in the future like 2 years or so away. So by then you probably could get a CPU around $100 that would perform better than a 4770 and hopefully ram prices will drop.
Id agree with you like 2 years ago but seriously. Games like Battlefield 1, COD WW2, Fortnite and plenty of others will use up 8-10 gigs of ram with nothing but the game running. I always was on the 8 gb is fine until i upgraded to 16 gb. Plus games just run a lot smoother. Its one of those 8gb will be more then fine but 16gb is better.
Since the i7-2600k can be had for about $100 dollars you could probably guess in about 2 years the 4770 will be around that. Then again you cant tell how the used market is going to be. Plus haswell is like one of the last processors to use DDR3 so im sure the market will stay pretty high for those chips. If i was you i'd just pony up the extra $40-60 or just save up and buy ryzen 2 or whatever intel has in the future. The i5-4590 is still a good chip or sell the 4590 for $100 and buy the 4770. Thats like a $60 upgrade!!!
Which is nvenc but using shadowplay instead of obs or something else.
Wait till the 19th and look at the ryzen 2600 or 2600x.
Other options of using nvenc are perfect for less then steller CPU's. Pretty much 6000 bit rate at 720p and 60 fps will be very similar to x264 3500 bit rate at 720p 60fps with less cpu usage.
Wish I could like your comment 10 times.
DP or DVI-D
I agree with the 1700 vs 1700X. But on release day they were $70 dollars apart. Plus, the 1700X didnt come with a cooler, so pretty much $100 +/-. So on release day you could just buy a 1700 for $320 and OC it to 3.7 straight out of the box without issues. Though, now with current prices it does make the 1700X a viable purchase. Expecially if you want a better chance to hit 4.0 ghz with an aftermarket cooler.
Yeah, I here we arent getting the 2800X and that the 2700 vs 2700X are going to have different stock coolers. Can't wait to see what AMD has done with these refresh CPU's.
I dont have a problem with the X370 boards as they support features that someone might need. The X varient CPU's dont really add much of an advantage unless you just want/need one.
So, the 1700, 1700x and 1800x arent a waste? They all are unlocked and can all be overclocked to abound 3.9-4.0. Both companies do some interesting things that only they probably know why.
IMO i couldnt get into it. Probaly spent a hour messing around with it and then uninstalled. Still would give it 5 stars for the devs giving me a free copy :)
I haven't even seen a reason to upgrade from a 3770k to a newer i7 yet, well maybe the i7-8700k. Really, the only upgrade from a 1600x is probably a 2700 variant CPU if you need 8 cores 16 threads. I just wouldn't expect the 1600X to be much worst than a 2600X. I guess it comes down to if you feel the need to sell and buy with a $50-80 upgrade?
Hit the wrong reply button. Meant to say it to the OP.
Looks like a solid setup. Just remember your motherboard might not support Ryzen 2000 processors right out of the box. Usually that involves a BIO's update. Just confirm prior to purchase that it will support. Also, i noticed that you are adding a second monitor. Your motherboard only has 1 VGA, 1DVI and 1 HDMI. So you are going to need one of your monitors running off HDMI and the other off VGA.
I'd look into that option vs the 1300 and a low end GPU.
Do you need the GTX 1050? Like are you planning to game at all or would adding an extra 8gb of ram and bumping up to say a Ryzen 5 2400G be something you'd be interested in? The 2400G has 4 Cores 8 Threads and integrated Graphics.
You can never have too much storage.