Once again, WOW!!
What happened to this place while I was gone vagabond139?
"Being server cores they will severely bottleneck the video card"
Overkill. The original poster stated his dad uses ****tons of plug-ins. An i3 won't cut it.
This IS NOT a gaming PC. This is not a video editing PC.
This is a PC where realtime playback at low latencies is king and what all audio producers are striving for.
I'll link you to a few forums along with professional DAW builders.
Without a doubt, the most experienced DAW builder out there. Pay close attention to the specs.
The ultimate goal in an audio workstation is, the fastest single threaded CPU you can find along with many cores. This is hard to do since the more cores you add, the lower the clock speeds and there goes the single threaded performance. Overclocked x99 i7's have the best of both worlds.
Here is a good chart to compare CPU's and what to expect when loading it up.
Just because it's from 2011 doesn't mean it's not capable. It likely has an i5, i7 or possibly a Xeon. I know people think audio playback isn't stressful on a system, but when you start adding multiple tracks, FX or any signal processing, it WILL start to skip, pops and clicks in the audio or flat out drop out. This is REAL TIME playback, not listening to a .mp3.
Below are minimum system requirements for simply running pro tools. We haven't even introduced plug-ins like Omnisphere, EastWest Hollywood or whatever. We haven't introduced any FX to these either. DPC latency in an audio workstation makes for a miserable experience. He notes there will be a "ton of plug ins". When these loaded and a sample is called, it's stored in system RAM. It's not uncommon for producers recording big orchestral scores to burn through 64Gb or even 128Gb of RAM.
Some even use multiple computers to spread the load since one machine can not handle real time playback and recording simultaneously on those big scores. I highly doubt this is the need here though. 8Gb is good for gaming.
If he's running tons of plug ins, he will absolutely bring an i3 to a screeching halt quick, especially with only 8Gb of RAM.
What is your budget?
I thought I'd chime in since you don't have a reply yet. Audio workstations need strong single thread performance and plenty of cores. Most modern DAW software can utilize as many cores as you give them. The problem is, the more cores, the lower the base clock of the CPU which lowers single threaded performance.
I've posted a link below on Ryzen as an audio workstation. Ryzen is a completely new platform and with any new platform, it's takes time for manufacturers to optimize and work out bugs. BIOS updates especially. I'm not knocking Ryzen at all, they're great CPU's! But as of today, depending on your buffer settings and your project sizes,
an i7 6800k or even a 5820k has the best of both worlds. Strong single threaded performance and 6 hyperthreaded cores.
It boils down to your track count, effects and what plug ins you'll be using. I know Omnisphere 2 can spike CPU usage pretty dang high. You may be able to get away with just 4 cores. Again, it depends on your playing style.
As far as DPC latency via USB, check out what RME has to offer. They are the best and stay on top of firmware updates. Check out the link below on Ryzen. Let me know if you have any questions. I've just grazed the surface on this topic.
Hes a storm chaser from Texas and makes some good videos.
No problem. I've been busy too. Not much time here as I'm used to.
How many VST plugins do you use? Lots of FX and instances running simultaneously?
Graphics cards aren't important for just audio work. Save the money and use multiple SSD's for maximum IOPS
On a Dell, three beeps indicate a motherboard issue.
WOW is right! I had no idea. I need one now!
This is true. Rent or mortgage payments can be brutal depending on location.
One thing I noticed when I moved to west texas was lower housing costs compared to Dallas. I rented a house in Ballinger for $495 a month. That same house would have been $850-950 in Dallas. But some of the money saved on cheaper rent was eaten up by grocery costs. If you went shopping locally in town, expect to pay 30% more for everything. If I drove to San Angelo(much larger city) to shop it was cheaper, but it was a 45 minute drive one way. Gas was over $3 a gallon back then so it was a wash.
Since Ballinger was a small town, almost everything was a locally owned mom and pop businesses. So I can see where the higher costs come in. I supported them by shopping in town. Thats what made that town so unique. There is a Sonic fast food and the smallest Walmart I've ever seen. Everything else is locally owned.
Common sense. My girlfriend is a good example. She has a Masters Degree and can barely change a lightbulb. LOL! My step dad is the same way. Lots if College and a hell of a business man, but lacks common sense.
Dallas Texas. I think there is a username Richard*** something thats in Fort Worth. Thats pretty close to me.
Vietnamese food FTW though. No curry. Just yum!
Curry is good in small amounts. I'm not a fan of the smell when someone is cooking with it, but its doable. Ever had Indian food?
Spicy salmon and spicy tuna are my top choices.
Same here! I could eat sushi almost everyday and not get tired of it.
Yeah. I saw that they have two!
One is a distribution center though. With Kansas being centralized in the US, it makes sense to have a distribution center there.
Find this funny after talking to you about Micro Center wages. The first bullet point. LOL!
That sucks! PCPP is the next best thing then.
What? No Micro Center in Seattle? That should be illegal! LOL!
Isn't Seattle loaded with techies? I haven't been there since 1998. Everett to be exact. Its beautiful up there!
I'm about to go get a Super Burrito from Taco Casa. Mmmm....
Embedded in the title. Yeah, I noticed that too.
You're gonna get me in trouble with Philip! ;) Thats the last thing I wanna do!
Funny...there were about 5 hanging around cases today. At the end of the GPU isle.
Still?...hold on. Let me make a phone
Makes sense. I'd rather flip burgers for that pay. How disappointing it would be to sell a 980ti and make a $6 or less commission. It wouldn't be so bad if they were making at least minimum wage on top of that. But how many people come in a buy those everyday? Probably not often.
Shame on you Jipster! ;)
I saw the title and thought McDonald's brought back the McRib sandwich for a limited time.
I knew profit margins were slim on PC hardware but holy cow! It must be worse than I thought?
One thing I forgot about until now. When I was checking out, the cashier next to me was having issues with his computer screen. The customer must have been standing there for a while waiting because the cashier said, man our system is junk! Everyone that heard him got a laugh out of that. Ironic!
Well...you're part of the thread now Tiny! ;)
Welcome to the thread where people are confused! LOL!
Holy cow! I didn't mean to derail the thread. What happened?? LOL!
I just mentioned weather. Holeeee!
An Amber alert is NOT a weather alert issued from the National Weather Service. When a child is reported missing an Amber alert is issued, local law enforcement notifies state officials and media outlets.
Tornado warning means a tornado was indicated on radar or spotter reported one on the ground or rotation was spotted.
Tornado watch means weather conditions are favorable for tornadic activity.
I'd work there, but not sales. I'd rather stock the shelves and touch all the hardware.
I just called my uncle Phillip and asked him about this. Come to find out, two L's in the name Phillip means you start off poor. My guess is, Philip must doing so well with PCPP, he was able to afford a name change and only dropped one L.
I have no idea how he able to afford the extra letter. Hes an old hippie from the 60's and 70's, smokes pot and loves rock and roll. He in his mid 60's washing dishes at a steak house. Hmmmm.....
Oh crap! No wonder he didn't reply. My uncle spells his with two L's. Just used to doing it that way I guess.
Holy cow....I got stressed a little just reading that. Can't imagine how you felt!
Hopefully the new week brings you better luck! ;)
Same here, minus the broken PC.
That sucks. I wonder if they get an employee discount?
Kind of surreal for a moment huh?
Come to Texas if you want an adrenaline rush like that again. Storm season is coming. Nothing like golfball or larger hail falling from the sky, green, blue and black clouds with the tornado sirens blaring!
I'm out spotting for Collin County when that happens. It never gets old! :)