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Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 24 months ago
  • 1 point

I used the rubber holders that came with the fan.

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 24 months ago
  • 1 point

Its a regular 25mm thickness.

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 29 months ago
  • 1 point

No, it's just a normal splitter that's included with the fan. The low-noise adaptor is a different cable that's also included with the fan.

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 29 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes I am using a fan splitter that came with the Noctua fans. And for the 140mm fan above the CPU I used the include rubber holders that come with the Noctua fans too :)

Hope that helps!

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

I did not know that. How do you know what side the exhaust portion is?

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 31 months ago
  • 1 point

The fan splitter came with the 120mm Noctua Fans that I bought. I didn't buy them separately.

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 32 months ago
  • 2 points

The fans in the GPU chamber is sharing one fan header using a splitter. The other mobo fan two headers is taken up by the CPU fan and fan in the CPU chamber.

Stress test your CPU first with your chosen CPU Cooler and see if you're comfortable with the temps. Keep in mind though that those stress test temps are not temps you would usually see in everyday use if just using for office work, browsing and watching videos and occasional gaming. If you don't like what you see with your CPU temps then you can try adding that extra fan in the CPU chamber.

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 32 months ago
  • 1 point

Probably with a mini GPU. I've seen that done somewhere before.

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah same thing, I had 2 Corsair SP120s Quiet Editions in there before the Noctuas and they did the same thing. Who knows, maybe you'll have better luck than me :)

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

When I place the dust filter inside the case, the 2 Noctua fans suck it in and the filter starts rubbing against the fan blades causing a undesirable noise. The GPU intake dust filter is quite flimsy, it's not very dense, that's why they can easily be sucked in by the fans, so placed them outside of the case and this makes for easier cleaning too! :D

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

The i7 6700 non-"K" serves my purposes well enough which is 70-80% office productivity 30% gaming, video & photo editing. So I'm happy with my non-"K" CPU. The Asus motherboard software with the "One Click 5-way Optimization" squeezes a little more juice out of my non-"K" - about 20% giving it a max boost clock speed of 4.1 Ghz and temps stay at nice comfortable levels.

If you use your computer 90% of the time for programs/games that require a lot of processing power, then you may want to go with the "K" CPU but just be wary of the increase in temps especially with the Node 202.

Can't really tell you if there is a huge difference from the "K" version at 4.0 out of the box since I've never used one before :)

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

Oh, and do you remember the temps without the 140mm fan?

I think it was hitting past over the 80 degrees Celsius mark ...

I'll try and get those pictures for you of the filter.

If the mounting holes of the fan(either 140 or 120) align with the mesh of the dust filter and not the plastic. Maybe it's possible to make a whole through the mesh to mount the fan?

Good idea, but I think you might be limited to using a low-profile 120/140mm fan due to the thickness of the frame of the filter. On my PC with the 120/140mm fan (with a 25mm width) installed above the CPU cooler, there's only about 3mm between them that's why I had to remove the original case filter.

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

This is great! Thanks for opening my mind to this! Never crossed my mind to think of controlling the fans through software but using the temps of the GPU, just didn't think it was possible hehehe. Thanks again! :D

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks tadashi! :D

1. With the 2 120mm fans, I used the fan header splitter and routed it behind the GPU riser card then connected it to the nearest fan header on the motherboard. The Asus GPU WILL make it a lot easier for you in routing the fan cables if it really does have 2 4-pin fan headers and this will allow you to adjust the 2 case fan's speed according to the temp of the GPU instead of the CPU temps - if you've got the money why not!? Can't really tell you anything more about the performance of the Asus compared to other brands or cheaper versions, but people usually say that they all cards of the same model perform similarly well in frames despite the brand. Differences in brand are subjective in noise, temps, overclocking ability. Really up to your preference and wants. But I've heard many times people say here that a blower style GPU is most suitable in these mini ITX builds as they will blow the hot air out instead of blowing it around in the case as what non-blower style GPUs do.

2. Without the 140mm fan, the i7 CPU and motherboard will run a little hotter but not that much hotter to be alarming - depending on what temps you think are alarming though - I just like knowing that my system is running a little cooler :) When I stress tested my CPU without the 140mm fan, I didn't like the temps I was seeing so I tried adding that 140mm fan and it did help quite a bit. But I believe if you go with an i5 it will run a lot cooler. Removing the mesh from the dust filter above the CPU will prove to be a tricky task because it's like a grid, you'll cut them out into squares and I don't think it's worth the bother doing that. But who knows, maybe you'll think of something more efficient! Share if you do! :D

The smaller mounting size of the fan helps? It says it has 125x125mm and 105x105mm screw spacing on the fan website.

Not too sure what you mean by this....

3. Dust has not really built up yet despite the environments I've had the PC in (Home and Office and Car). I've also removed the dust filters that I bought from Amazon because they increased my CPU temps which I was uncomfortable with. But I've have yet to use my compressed air to clear out dust over the 3 months I've had this PC. I think having that fan above the CPU helps in keeping the dust out and blowing it away as I can feel the air gushing out of the top vent when placed in vertical orientation.

Hope my answers help you! :D

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

Just recycling my answer from the above post...

My GPU is 41mm according to Gigabyte's website and I'm using 25mm fans in the GPU bay and I still have a couple of millimeters of gap between the GPU and the fans which don't seem to be causing any issues. The fans are static pressure fans which are recommended for these conditions. They help in bringing cool air from the outside to cool down the GPU, so you don't really need them running at high RPMs.

If you go with slim profile fans, others have found that these cause more noise, and move less air. Others have reported that they don't make much difference in GPU temps much.

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 33 months ago
  • 3 points

Thanks Laren3! :)

My GPU is 41mm according to Gigabyte's website and I'm using 25mm fans in the GPU bay and I still have a couple of millimeters of gap between the GPU and the fans which don't seem to be causing any issues. The fans are static pressure fans which are recommended for these conditions. They help in bringing cool air from the outside to cool down the GPU, so you don't really need them running at high RPMs.

The dust filters I bought were "BQLZR 140mm PVC Black PC Cooler Fan Dust Filter" from Amazon and they were very easy to cut to the right size and slide into the side vents. And yes, they do attach very firmly to the vents even in vertical position. But I recommend, if you can, find "finer" dust filters like the fine-ness of the dust filters that come with the Node 202, because I noticed that the dust filters I bought from Amazon caused my CPU temps to rise. This is probably because the dust filters from Amazon are thicker and let less air to be sucked in by the case fan and less hot air out through the top vent.

I decided to remove them because I wasn't comfortable with the rise in temps I saw. So I'll just clean the inside and blast the dust away from time to time, which I prefer rather than a rise in temps. :D

Hope this helps.

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

It's performing great! Just like an SSD is suppose to :) quick and snappy! Sure it's not a Samsung 950 Pro but does what I need it to do :) I use it as storage because it's larger capacity than my non-m.2 SSD. Does get a bit hot when the CPU is under load though - around 45 degrees Celsius. But nothing I'm too concerned about.

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

Hehehe my son just turned 1 last June. So by the time he's 7 years old, this system would most probably be not as high tech anymore :D

With the speedy advancement of technology today, who knows what we'll have by the time he turns 7!!! :O :D

Comment reply on Miniitx's Completed Build: Fractal Design Node 202 (Mini ITX Build)

  • 33 months ago
  • 2 points

Another +1000000 for that GREAT FEELING AFTER!! :D

Comment reply on Miniitx's Completed Build: Fractal Design Node 202 (Mini ITX Build)

  • 33 months ago
  • 2 points

Dayum!!!! Nice work Miniitx!!!! :D

That's really awesome cable management! You went a step further than I did! Hahaha! If i could I would +1000000

Seeing your pictures made me really happy for some reason! _^ Love how you routed underneath the motherboard and also through the SSD cage! SMART! Now you've got me wanting this time to redo my cable management :)

Another +1000000000 for you!!! :Thumbsup!:

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

Love your nice little HTPC build. Good work with the cabling in it too! +1

Now that my Node 202 is sitting complete, I just can't help but stare at it and admire its beauty :-) Would do it all again! This build will really last me a while to come. Probably hand it down to my son once he's 7 years old, the same age I started using a PC which was a 486! Hehehe...

It's a little work horse and I enjoy every minute of using it at the office. I really do not mind bringing it to the office everyday! Always look forward to using it and thus I am more productive! :D

It also satisfies my gaming cravings that I get from time to time and runs every game so far on ultra settings at 1080p with 120+ fps on a 144hz monitor, so there's nothing I can complain about :)

Comment reply on bluebrandon's Completed Build: Quantum - Console Sized Gaming PC

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

Did you notice any temperature change after installing those dust filters on the top? Because for me, after installing the filters above the CPU and the top vent, my temps have gone up by 7-9 degrees Celsius. Wondering if it had the same effect for your Node 202?

The dust filters are probably not allowing the air to come in or go out as efficiently as when there were no dust filters...?

Comment reply on bluebrandon's Completed Build: Quantum - Console Sized Gaming PC

  • 34 months ago
  • 1 point

Hi, I just wanted to ask how did you attach the dust filters to the side vent on the CPU side? Because I just got dust filters for my Node 202 and wondering how to attach them on that side vent :) Thanks!

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 34 months ago
  • 1 point

What version of Prime95 you using. I remember reading somewhere that using the latest version on Skylake CPUs gives unnecessary stress to the CPU due to VRX or something like. So it is recommended to use Prime95 v26.6 to stress test the newer CPUs like Skylake.

Comment reply on Miniitx's Completed Build: Fractal Design Node 202 (Mini ITX Build)

  • 34 months ago
  • 1 point

what version of Prime95 did you use?

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 34 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you Miniitx! :D

You have a great Node 202 system there yourself too! Can't wait for you to get the GTX 1060 to put into there! +1 Have fun with it! :D

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 34 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you Xizt! :D

Comment reply on Miniitx's Completed Build: Fractal Design Node 202 (Mini ITX Build)

  • 34 months ago
  • 1 point

Beautiful build mate! Go the Noctua fans! Yup with just a little bit more work, you can make those cables look great too! :D +1

Love the Node 202!

By the way, when you said on load the CPU is at 55, how did you produce that load? For example, stress testing with Prime95?

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 34 months ago
  • 1 point

Hehe, I like your "dusty" OCD-ness :D

Don't worry Ted, my dust filters have arrived in the mail today! And I'll install them on the Node 202 as soon as I get the chance to do so :)

Let's just hope it'll keep dust in the system to a minimal! Don't like dust too, gives me allergies.

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 34 months ago
  • 1 point

Regarding the "prime95 killing Skylake chips" ... I am not too sure, and only heard about it when you mentioned it in your comment :)

I heard it's suppose to lock up the computer when doing a stress test using Prime95, but the amount of time as to when it occurs varies from system to system. While doing my quite short stress test, I didn't encounter any lock ups, so must just be lucky so far :)

I'll tell you if it ever occurs. Glad I got extended warranty on my CPU just in case anything happens. They'll replace it straight away at the shop I bought it from if it breaks :)

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 34 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you eli_harper :)

Expert level?! Wow, thanks, you're too kind :) I need to look at more other builds to see the different levels of cable management.

Yeah, sure, why not, copy it all you like, you won't be disappointed! :D

You'll have lots of fun!

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 34 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you unicykle! :D

Much love did go into building it and it will be given much more love in the time to come!

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 34 months ago
  • 1 point

Ohhhhhhh ... the OCD in me ...

Thanks :D

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 34 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks cgprats :)

About the blower style GPU, as I explained to ryanp83 above ...

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Yes, that's what I read in many different posts and builds of mini ITX cases. But at the time of building, the only blower style GPU of the GTX 1070 was the Founder's Edition which I chose to opt out of due to the difference in price, noise, and temperatures compared to non-reference versions.

Getting a non-reference version like the Gigabyte G1 Gaming GTX 1070 would allow me to be a bit more flexible in the future if I did want to go bigger in PC case size. It was also a lot cheaper when it was at pre-order sale price at that time. And temps aren't too bad in the Node 202 - just by adding those two 120mm fans, brought into control the temps, maxing at 68 degrees Celsius for Furmark stress tests and lower temps during normal gameplay loads. Problem solved! :)

With other builds of the Node 202 I saw wherein people used a blower style GPU, their temps haven't been that great either and sometimes a bit higher than mine. So I'm quite happy with the choice I made :)

Also, by the time my non-reference GTX 1070 came, only then did I start seeing non-reference blower style cards from Asus and MSI start to come out. But by then, I was already extremely happy and in love with my GTX 1070 :D

Thanks again!

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 34 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you pegotico! Yah, I've become a Noctua fan boy now... I think :D +1

Well I'd definitely buy Noctua again for sure!

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 34 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks HarryDickDickeron. After seeing others build a Node 202 and their attempt to cable manage, I thought I'd give it a shot :)

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 34 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you Scrounger! :)

I didn't even know that there was a "featured" feature :) hehe ... Oh well, I just posted my build up because just wanted to share with everyone here my hard work, and I hope everyone is enjoying it so far! :D

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 34 months ago
  • 1 point

Hahahaha don't worry about it, I eventually figured out what you said :D

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 34 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks UdiNi! :D

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 34 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes, that's what I read in many different posts and builds of mini ITX cases. But at the time of building, the only blower style GPU of the GTX 1070 was the Founder's Edition which I chose to opt out of due to the difference in price, noise, and temperatures compared to non-reference versions.

Getting a non-reference version like the Gigabyte G1 Gaming GTX 1070 would allow me to be a bit more flexible in the future if I did want to go bigger in PC case size. It was also a lot cheaper when it was at pre-order sale price at that time. And temps aren't too bad in the Node 202 - just by adding those two 120mm fans, brought into control the temps, maxing at 68 degrees Celsius for Furmark stress tests and lower temps during normal gameplay loads. Problem solved! :)

With other builds of the Node 202 I saw wherein people used a blower style GPU, their temps haven't been that great either and sometimes a bit higher than mine. So I'm quite happy with the choice I made :)

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 34 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks murad, just gotta take your time with these things :)

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 34 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you odwillia! :)

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 34 months ago
  • 1 point

Well, it's good to know that there are some good TIMs out there to watch out for as they perform better in some scenarios and in the experience of others such as yourself. I'll keep that in mind when time comes to reapply the TIM :D Thanks again!

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 34 months ago
  • 2 points

Go the mini ITX builds! FTW! :D

Yeh, you just gotta figure out ways to get around the challenges of small builds like ours and do what you gotta do! :) Happy with my temps right now.

Yes, go get you some "ugly" Noctua fans... tho once you start appreciating what they do and how they do it, they start becoming "prettier and prettier." Hehehe +1

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 34 months ago
  • 2 points

Hehehe ... that's the beauty about this build, can easily move it to the 55" TV (tho only Full HD) downstairs and connect my two wireless xbox 360 controllers to it and start gaming! So versatile! :)

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 34 months ago
  • 2 points

Thank you hbergberg!

I think my "OCD-ness" just came out when I kept opening up the case and saw all those cables :D

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 34 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes, the CPU intake fan is unfiltered ... for now :)

As I stated in my "Other things to do/buy:" portion of my description, I've already ordered some dust filters from, and still just waiting for its arrival. I'll be placing a dust filter where the CPU intake fan is and also on the side vents nearest the CPU/PSU side of the case. That should make managing dust build-up a lot better :)

I know those temps might not be as low as others may want it, but with the way I'm using my PC, it will probably only hit those temps at a maximum of 5 hours per week :) most of the time I'm doing office work, which makes, I know, this build a bit overkill! Hehehe ... just love knowing I have the power to do more :)

But probably down the road, due to wear and tear and time, if I see the temps increasing, then I'll probably get that Gelid Extreme paste and apply it to the CPU :) but for now, I'm pretty comfortable with my temps. Thanks for letting me know about that paste. Really have no idea with what's out there when it comes to thermal compounds.

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 34 months ago
  • 1 point

CPU Idle: Coolest core - 24 degrees Celsius min Average core temp - 25 degrees Celsius

CPU on load: Prime95 & Furmark stress testing Hottest core - 76 degrees Celsius max Average core temp - 71 degrees Celsius

CPU on load: Doom (2016) 20 minutes gameplay Ultra-Nightmare settings Hottest core - 66 degrees Celsius Average core temp - 54 degrees Celsius

All test done with ambient temp of 20-21 degrees Celsius.

Comment reply on richardjr77's Completed Build: Node 202 - Portable Gaming and Productivity PC

  • 34 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks Gooberdad.

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