Very sleek. I love it.
As nice as it is to look on top and underneath the desk, I think it would be a bit better to actually post pictures of the rig in question. I mean, I came to PCPartPicker, not PCDeskPicker. Jump on it buddy. lol.
2x970s seems like a bit much but it might just be me hating that I didn't do it myself. lol. Good build bro. Quality work.
Gave me a reason to get a Pi again. I had one and let it sit and eventually lost it. After I found out that I couldn't watch Netflix on it and then came across another system that I could re-purpose to run Kali I gave up on it. This will change that. The wife loves SNES games and roms are "cheap" (lol).
Yes, yes and more yes to that name! Plus one for that alone. If I could give more pluses I would for a awesome build.
Loving the case and the cable work on this beauty. Thumbs up in my book. Might have to look at that case for a future build.
Amazon.com. They currently have it listed for 319.42. It was not the exact same SKU as Best Buy had but they still honored it. I think it had something to do with me returning a card that cost less to buy a card that cost more, lol.
I love this keyboard and the mouse that comes with it. I will say that I wish it would stay lit from the second the computer is powered on. Other than that I love this thing. It has a good feel to it, doesn't take up too much space, has a good sound to it and is very bright.
If I had to do anything a little different with this build it would be these things.
Send the CPU, GPU, PSU and headphones back (356 back from all of those parts).
Get an FX-6300 (12 dollars more than current CPU. More cores, slightly less speed)
Get a Sapphire Radeon R7 260 (2 dollars cheaper than current GPU and more power)
Get a EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W (1 dollar cheaper, same amount of power and better ratings).
Use the 107 that is left to buy whatever headphones you can find in that range. If you can do without the headphones, you can put that 107 towards a better graphics card and have a beast of a computer.
All criticism aside, this is still a great build and as long as it does what you need it to do and plays the games you like to play at a reasonable level then I say keep it and do you. All of the suggestions listed above and I'm sure in other comments are just to get you the best out of your money, performance wise. If this suits you, be happy and be proud.
I might have to send in a complaint e-mail to PC Part Picker to add a "Give this man a beer!" button just to congratulate you on this build, commend you on turning a bad situation (The cheating beast called an ex) around in a positive way and for your sacrifice that you have made to not only make it possible for us to build PCs and brag about them on here but for us to be safe doing so. Congrats all around. Thanks for your service brother. Welcome home!
That pic is from February when I first completed the build without the new monitors/gpu/fan controller. Will post updated pictures soon. Old thread was strange and stretched out so I started this one for the update.
Trust me, it gets worse. After I setup the first strip I loved it so much that my whole man cave is covered in it. They have a sound activated changing mode that just makes it fun as heck to game with the bass up.
The lighting coming from inside the case are all from the fans. All the lighting around the desk is an LED strip that is separate from the PC. It is actually able to change about 12 different colors and changes with sound or random switching. So yeah, I can do a modest white when I feel in the mood for it. lol.
Kinda like going to a vegetarian forum and asking "Bacon or Salad?". You already know the answer.
I'd have to agree on the memory comment. Could have gotten 32gbs of Vengence for that price but you already said it will be changed so that is not a problem.
All in all, I like it. Looks very cool. Show us the money shots though (Those guts!).
I second the more pics statements.
Yeah, those would on my return list ASAP.
Sorry for hijacking your thread with all of my beef. Wanted to give my take on this thing now. It is a BEAST. Would make any entertainment center proud and put all consoles to shame. Gonna have to take a few pages out of your book with the wireless card and the xbox controller (Where the heck did you find that so cheap??). Also, gonna have to go snag one of those 3TB drives from amazon now. Couldn't find them under 120 for some reason but I guess I just wasn't looking properly. Anyway, give us some more shots of the case itself (In and out of the entertainment center). I want to see the size because I may just have to snag one for my bedroom build.
The proof will show itself over time. When they are able to take this PC off of their entertainment center and put it on to their desk and do WHATEVER they want with it from programming to video editing to gaming then it will show its worth. What you are telling them is that just because they can get a Ferrari with all of the options doesn't mean that they should just because you didn't. All the car forums are filled with people saying "You can't even really use that much power on the street". Well, that's why they make tracks now isn't it? When it gets to something where all of it's resources will be used then they will be happy they got it. Get whatever you want and get what you can afford.
UNLESS their RAM is hindering the performance of their computer, there is no reason for you to say that they shouldn't have so much of it. Some people would have called us crazy not too long ago for getting the graphics cards everybody is clamoring for now. "No games even use that much" they'd say. Those same people are the ones on here asking what card will play those new games now. I said it once and I will say it again. Better to have more than to need more. I say it at the gun store, I say it at the car shops and I say it at the computer store. Can't find one person who can say they wish they had less to be "more efficient".
Bleh at your statement. Just BLEH!
The only thing I can agree with is the cable management part. Everything else is rubbish. If someone wants a high ghz/core cpu and lots of RAM then they can have it. Not everyone has to follow the same build out that you bought or else they could have just hired you to make their computer. Better to have more than to need more.
Need to get more pics uploaded so we can have a better look at the work. As far as the fan situation goes, I'd suggest getting a splitter or a fan controller if you are wanting to add more fans. Sure, you might not be able to get an accurate read out of the fans speeds (If you got the splitter route anyway) but the point is to get a cooler case right? (I mean how much fun can you really have staring at the screen changing the fans rpms?)
The parts lists looks good in my book though. Always fun to see one that isn't Intel. For the price point I'd say it is a great build. Toss in an SSD and this thing will be right on point.
This but for different reasons. I had my stuff setup properly but for some reason USB 3.0 ports wouldn't read my USB 2.0 thumb drive and would throw this error when I was trying to install my OS. Switched to the back and all was well. If that doesn't work then I'd try what was mentioned by FH100 and get a different keyboard to try. Can't go wrong with PS/2. Can probably find a cheap one on Amazon or if you need it fast then check your local big-retail store.
I am just one of those people that thinks that even if you aren't planning to do something, you should still plan for the possibility that you might. If you just wanted to play videos/music and code you could have came in at a much cheaper price or even bought from a store.
The whole point of building your own is to build something you like, get more for your money and have something that usually beats what you could have bought at the store. Don't get me wrong, to each their own, but for the money you spent you could have had much more and been future proofed for almost anything you may have found yourself getting interested in later on.
Go to the "Completed Builds" section and look to the upper left of the page and click on the "Create a Completed Build" button. Should show you your parts list and let you change/submit your stuff.
I think it would be great for a first build. It's easy to open, easy to add in parts and very pleasing to look at (Especially when it is lit up!). Yes, you can put a Micro ATX motherboard in the case but I am wondering why you would want to? Kind of limiting yourself there but to each their own.
Fan controller is a + in my book. Slow those babies down when you are doing normal stuff and speed them up when you are going heavy on the gaming. Nice build though. Kinda making me want to open the wallet and get a new GPU though with the bragging of its speeds.
I have to go with this answer. My PC would not let me boot from 3.0 to save my life. Popped the drive into the back 2.0 port and it started up right away. I'd give it a try.
It's all personal preference buddy. You can hear the likes and dislikes of both but what you like is up to you. In all honesty Intel wins in the performance department but usually at a high cost. AMD usually wins in the price to performance department. I like AMD personally as I can build something that can hold it's own against most Intel PC's but I'd have no problem picking up an Intel computer if the price was right for the performance I gained.
Flip a coin, pick the best the winner has and you'll be happy. No difference.
I'm sure it's not that they hate them but laptops are the worst things to get into as far as upgrading. Not much choice as far as what you want to do other than HDD/SSD, RAM and DVD/CD/Blu-Ray stuff. Can't really upgrade the graphics card, the power stuff, the cooling stuff or much else. Just the basics.
The only real options I tell my friends who want more performance out of their laptops is to either buy another (Better!) laptop or just switch to a Desktop. Other than that, you are just in a small boat with a small paddle trying to go through the grand rapids.
I know this is an old enough thread that I will probably catch crap for posting in it but I wanted to say how touching it was to do this in honor of your father. I'm sure he'd be proud and I'm quite sure everyone on this site will tip their hat to you for such a great build. Congrats and sorry for your loss buddy.
First things first, I am pretty darn jealous of your cable management. It's very purty. lol.
Second off, very nice build! Can't really say there would be anything I'd change. I saw in another comment that you are on track to add more RAM which is the only thing that'd be on my future list but this thing has more than enough to do anything you throw at it. Congrats.
This thing is making me want to go swap my H75 for that H100!
Exactly what I was thinking but I wouldn't see the point to getting the GPU if it's just storage. Maybe HTPC?
All in all it seems like a nice build (Apart from the dual core but maybe everyone else knows something I don't with those things).
I'm in agreement with ThunderDan602. I liked the initial pictures but once I got down to the 32 inch and 24 inch I was anxious to see what it all ended up looking like and how it was placed.
I like that you were able to add quite a bit for that budget yet still end up with a decent build.
On board graphics has nothing to do with those ports. They are completely separate things. You can run the computer without a case entirely and not have a problem (Other than not having a case ofcourse....).
Once you disconnect those ports you are only able to use the ports on the back of the case. Everything else will be largely unaffected (Ie. If you have an external hard drive or some other sort of device hooked up to the front ports you will have to move it to the back ports but it will start working again). You can disable the on board graphics and be left with the same situation as if you disabled the on board graphics with the plugs still connected. If you take out your graphics card after you disable on board graphics I'm sure your computer will recognize that and switch back to on board graphics.
AutoZone usually has speaker wire as well. Price might be a little higher but it's something to keep in mind if you ever need it fast.
For the PC's that are only for office software and internet, I'd suggest buying if it's not your money. If it is your money than build it. For the computer that needs to be more powerful, I'd build it as well. Start scanning NewEgg and TigerDirect though to see if you can get some deals over building. If you don't get to have fun with it then there isn't much of a point to build it all.
The last Battlefield I have actually played for more than 10 minutes was Vietnam. I've seen BF2/3/4 being played but in all honesty I think I'd have more fun playing 1942. I know I will probably grab BF4 just to see how it runs on my computer but I doubt it will go past that.
THIS! Never fails.
Sounds awfully close to being advertisement in my book. I've watch his tech videos on YouTube but for actual help I'll stick with this site and Toms.
Lol. If the person has experience doing it then you made a wise choice. While these programs may be free and widely used, they aren't for everyone. If you haven't done work in any modeling programs before then your best bet is to pass the buck but if you have a passion for it then I'd strongly suggest just playing around with it and watching a few tutorials regardless of if you plan on doing anything with it.
I've used almost all of the major modeling programs out there and while they are usually hard as crap to learn at the very start they get a lot easier once time goes on. Just have to wait for the CLICK to happen in your head that makes it all make sense to you and you'll be set.
Those plugs are only for the front panel. Unplugging them will only lose connectivity to the USB ports on the front of case. The ports on the back will still work as they are part of the motherboard.
Are you using on board graphics or a video card? If you are trying with a video card then try using the on board graphics source and try again. If it works then check BIOS for enabling it to use the video card and then switch back.
If all is as it seems then I would suggest looking to a bios update.
From what I have been finding, it seems that this board is very picky with what it likes to play nicely with. Find the correct bios, update it and see if it works. If you still get nothing, try taking it out of the case and trying it on a insulated surface (MOBO Box should do). If you still get nothing, I'd suggest talking with MSI as it could be possible that it is a dead board but make sure you get the right BIOS and start there first. Nothing worse than downtime.
Your case or mobo should have came with spacers that are placed between the motherboard and the case. The screws go through the spacers when you are mounting the motherboard. Without them you are basically just pushing the motherboard into the case which is a BIG no-no.
Should look like that. If they aren't in there then you need to go put them in there and hope there was no damage. If they are already in there then you can move on to trying the next thing.
Here are a few things to think about.
1: Do you have enough power?
2: Did you plug in each cable properly (The right way and pushed all the way in - Check if there are any free cables that belong somewhere on your board)?
3: Is your ram firmly seated and in the proper slots? (If you have 4 ram slots and 2 sticks, make sure you use slot 1 and slot 3 or whatever your mobo manual suggests).
4: Is your CPU properly seated (The right way and all the way in without bent pins or anything of that nature)?
5: Are you sure the hdmi cable works? (Try it on something else just to be sure if you haven't already.)
6: Are there any beeping noises or something when you turn it on other than the fans?
Post your build list or specs so we can get an idea of what we are working with here. If you have a camera it might be helpful to even post a picture of your motherboard as it sits in the case right now so we can do a visual check.
Gotta love the people that argue with the facts and somehow suddenly know everything about the question they asked and want to give their "Expert" opinion and do their best to prove you wrong. If they knew it already then they shouldn't be asking and if you truly want the answer to a question then be thankful when you get it. Don't come back and act like a complete jerk or else you might not get any responses the next time.
What I don't get is that if people know that Google can tell you where to find a part cheaper, it can tell you what time your favorite store closes, it can help you find the answers to your homework and it can help you find out how to replace the starter on your car, why wouldn't people think it could help them find out how to get their display to show up or get their computer to post or even help them find out if their program is compatible with the new OS they are getting?
Any problem I ran in to I searched Google and YouTube. The only thing that people should post here is a thread asking how people like the completed product. If you can't find out a problem on your own with the help of the numerous search engines available then chances are you shouldn't even be building a computer.
There are still a few locations left in my city that are still in business (Don't look like it until you walk up to the door but they are). I stopped in there a few days ago to get an Anti-Static strap and just found myself wandering around trying to see if there was anything cool I'd want to build. I've did my best to stay away from those places ever since they basically became a cell phone store but I might drop in soon to see if they have any of these deals you all speak of.
I wouldn't say it was pointless for gaming, although it is not entirely necessary for gaming. The only reason I suggested 16GB of RAM is because you never know what you may get into later on. Might want to start making your own games, stream your games live or things of that nature later on down the line. Better to have and not need than need and not have.
If this is going to be strictly a gaming rig and you want to keep the budget low then by all means stick with the 8GB. It's plenty to hold you over for the newest games coming out but if you have any thought of doing some sort of production stuff on it then why not go big?