This will run basically all games at a good frame rate. The majority at high(and some ultra) settings at 60 FPS.
I wouldn't. Not worth paying double the price almost for an extra 400 MHz. I have a 6100 in one of my PC's(which sits right in between the 2 performance wise), had I known this Pentium was coming out, I would have waited a few months and saved $50.
Eh, it sits closer to the 1050 than the RX 470 in terms of performance, but in terms of price it's closer to the 470. If it wasn't $150 the 1050 Ti would be a good GPU, $125-130 is where it should be.
It's basically 15-20% faster than the 1050, while the RX 470 is around 50% faster than the 1050 Ti...
There's much more to power supplies than 80+ certification(which tells you literally nothing but power efficiency). Cheap power supplies use cheap capacitors, thinner gauge wiring that is often badly designed, have poorer soldering jobs, less quality control, poor ripple suppression and voltage regulation, etc. Hell, some of them don't even technically meet ATX specification which is FAR more important than 80+. There are 80+ bronze PSU's that are higher quality than some 80+ gold.
I won't even think about buying a power supply that Jonny Guru hasn't dissected and fully reviewed(which still gives me a few hundred to choose from).
You can squeeze an extra 200MHz out of the 1500X, maybe 300, which isn't going to bring those numbers up a whole lot. For a gaming PC, specifically a "modest gaming PC", the 7500 is fine.
I'd like to think the people who run this site and post these guides know what they're doing when they post them and/or make/don't make changes to them. It's possible that the R5's will get better support later on down the road or that BIOS updates will help them out, but the safe bet here for a $190-200 gaming CPU is going to be the i5 7500.
Solid state drives do way more than make your system boot "a couple seconds quicker". It's more like going from pressing power to browsing the internet in 20 seconds, that's A LOT quicker than a HDD. Games tend to load quicker and your entire system is much more responsive and snappier, files transfer faster, installs happen quicker, uninstalls happen quicker. There are plenty of good reasons to invest 50 bucks into an SSD on top of a larger HDD for storage...
One of my PC's has an i3 6100 which only runs games at a few frames per second higher than that Pentium, so speaking from my experience, it will run almost all games on high(and in many cases, ultra) settings at 60 FPS at 1080p.
So running at a slightly lower, slightly higher, or similar frame rate is getting "destroyed"?
Sorry, but everything about you just screams "fanboy", and given your stance on shady Windows keys coupled with your exaggeration of processors that aren't a universally better solution for everybody, I can't take you seriously.
I care about one thing: results. The results don't paint the same picture you have in your head, sorry to say. If somebody is only gaming, they would more than likely be better with the i5. If they have use for multi-threaded performance, they should look into Ryzen.
Yes, a few of those don't test the R5 overclocked, but it hits 3.7 GHz stock, overclocked you're looking at an extra 200-300 MHz, which isn't going to change the performance delta very much.
Ugh...no, you can't get Windows 10 keys way cheaper legally. Those grey market sites aren't legit places to get keys. At best, you're buying from somebody who bought keys in a poor region that Windows gives a discount to, at worst, you're buying a key that was purchased with a stolen credit card.
Highest CPU you can go with this build is an i7 7700K in the future(but you won't be able to overclock it without getting a Z170/270 motherboard). Though some people theorize that Coffee Lake will use the same socket based on Intel straying from their "tick-tock" release schedule, but that's just speculation. For GPU's you'll be able to use any new GPU, but with RAM you will be limited to 2400MHz(unless you switch to a Z170/270 motherboard).
So I'd say upgradability is decent, but not "great". If it's just for gaming, it will last quite a while.
Since you're doing content creation you might want to look into similarly priced Rzyen processors. And yes, you will need to purchase a copy of Windows...though if you can get your hands on the installer, activation isn't required to use your PC. The main things that activation does are removing a small watermark and allowing access to the "personalization" settings.
When it comes to gaming benchmarks an overclocked R5 runs +/- 5 FPS. It definitely doesn't "destroy" it, especially if you're only gaming.
On a CPU that can't be overclocked the stock cooler is fine. You're never going to go into unsafe temperature ranges at stock fan speeds while gaming and if you're anal about keeping things cool you can set a custom fan speed curve to keep it cooler. The vast majority of games will never fully utilize a CPU, so saying "never go stock with gaming" on a CPU with a locked multiplayer is kind of ignorant. Unless you plan on running Prime95 in the background while gaming lol...with an i5 7500 an aftermarket cooler is more about aesthetics.
Oddly enough, I decided to do another benchmark run and the Toshiba drive hit 111% this time.
Thanks! Yeah, I love UserBenchmark. It's not the end all for benchmarks, but it's nice to be able to compare results with real people!
Yeah, it's a little disappointing, but it gets the job done for the time being. I'm hoping to eventually add a 512GB M.2 drive and move my OS over to that and just keep the Toshiba as a backup. I gambled and lost with it, but the drive I had used for years in my old laptop was slower, so it was still a step up.
One of my PC's has an non-activated copy of Windows 10(installed it with a USB but didn't put in a product key). Not much of a difference honestly.
Love the C7, for what it is, it works great. Plus it just looks awesome.
Well the 1080 Ti did just come out, and will provide quite a frame rate boost considering the monitor is UWQHD.
Most of these SATA SSDs perform about the same. Samsung has an edge in continuous read/writes, but boot times and game loading times are very similar across the board.
C7 is a beastly little cooler, especially for 25 bucks. Plus it looks awesome paired with a Krait.
Monochrome builds are becoming really popular.
And I wouldn't have it any other way :)
I've got the wireless version of that mouse too, good choice!
I looooooooooooooooove the Manta case so much. It's the perfect size for a single GPU gaming PC. Plus it just looks awesome.
Surround monitor gaming is amazing, trust me ;)
I really like the selection of black and white motherboards for the 200 series. You really can't go wrong with any of them! Looks great!
RAID 10 for the Hitachi drives?
Nice looking build, you got some good deals too! But beware, paying that price for Windows 10 comes with a high risk of it being deactivated later on.
It is absolutely not better, not even close.
Thanks! Though the cost effective part will change once the 1080 Ti FTW3 comes out haha. Just hoping the Microcenter price on the 7700K becomes more standard(or I'll just drive 2 hours to Microcenter).
Yeah, plus the R5 series should in theory overclock a little better with much more acceptable thermals.
I'm even considering switching from my 6600 to a 1400X, but after seeing the R7's do worse than the not so high hopes that I had for it in gaming...I'm not making any serious plans yet.
Shhh...I like to give people the benefit of the doubt :P
It's not a gaming processor. It's for heavy productivity workloads that can't be offloaded to the GPU. Honestly, I'm hoping the builder knows this, because it's just not worth $500(by a long shot) if you're only gaming.
Haha I love how you buckled in the motherboard and CPU on your way home.
Well, regardless, you still have a very powerful workstation!
Don't you hate how mITX boards are so expensive yet you get less features, less potential and less physical materials? Zero logic behind the pricing.
I like this combination. As soon as I saw HT on the new Pentium's I knew what was to come. RX 470 is also really good value.
Mannnn. R7 1800X would have done just as well(possibly better) and saved you over $600 =/
Too late to return? Haha
That looks really ******* cool. I do prefer the look of EVGA cards(mainly because of how they show off which GPU it is :P), but even without, it looks amazing.
Thanks! Now that we know the 1080 Ti is going to be reasonably priced I'm considering going triple ultrawide hahaha. The peripheral vision though! Haha
Either way, you'll be set for a good while ;)
Hell, you've got yourself a 1440p killer! Or enough power for 1080p surround.
Was going to suggest putting the board and CPU back on Craigslist and putting a B250M and Pentium G4560 to save you from having to get a new case(and getting better frame rate in Overwatch), but then I remembered you have DDR3.
The front of that case has ventilation that you have the PSU intake facing, right? To me it looks like you may have found a new case design for full sized boards in shorter cases!
Kaby Lake Pentium is no joke, adding Hyper Threading was a huge upgrade. You can honestly get by with the cheaper G4560 and hit frame rates within probably 2% of what an i3 6100 would get.
Now that's bartering!
I don't remember where I saw charts showing total system draw, but this has GPU draw under a heavy load drawing 329W. Depending on how many fans, peripherals, drives, etc. you have, it's very reasonable to expect the entire system to be drawing under 500W. http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/geforce-gtx-1070-2-way-sli-review,4.html
Obviously if you're building a new system for that kind of setup, you should definitely not buy a 500W PSU and should go for at least 650, but if you only have a 500W and it's a high quality unit, you don't have to stress out about upgrading it immediately if you want to do 1070 SLI.
I'm talking under load.
I do not.
Food for thought: it actually cools just as well as many AIO coolers! Definitely worth keeping in mind for the future.