How is that card getting any air?
But...you can't actually do x16/x16/x16 with that CPU. That would be 48 PCIe lanes.
It all started with Haswell-E, they were able to get away with only 28 lanes on the lowest tier SKU, so they did it again for Broadwell-E. Now they decided to really get ballsy and gimp the lowest 2 SKU's for Skylake-X.
I was actually very interested in the 1900X, I think it be close enough in speed to the 7820X that the extra features will make up for being a little behind. I do think that the 6850K price drop may be a slight thorn in AMD's side though, as it's a cheaper way to get more PCIe lanes than mainstream platforms. Fewer lanes, fewer cores, but $300 less for board/CPU.
But hey, if AMD and Intel keep this fight up we'll have 8 cores running at Kaby Lake speeds for under $250 before too long haha.
Between the 7800X and 6850K it seems to really come down to what you need more, the extra PCIe lanes or the higher overclock ceiling. However, with Skylake-X Intel cut the cache pretty drastically. 7800X has 8.25M L3 vs the 15M on the 6850K, so I'm not too surprised the latter outperforms the former by a hair at stock settings. The whole platform has been gimped in some way or another, they had to respond to Ryzen, but they still had to get greedy in some way or another instead of just lowing prices to match what consumers view as more reasonable.
Didn't mean to get a little political at the end, these are still fast processors, I'm just disappointed by many of the decisions all of these companies make haha.
Glad I'm not the only one who couldn't help themselves when they saw how far the 6850K dropped in price ;)
I cheaped out on my motherboard though :x
Great looking build!
Oh good, I'm not the only one who was so hellbent on having the water block logo the correct way and twisted the hoses to make it all fit lol. Looks nice, I like the motherboard ;)
Really solid PC for $400, and has plenty of room for an upgrade in the future! Good job.
That's strange. Maybe try mounting the block again? My temps are from a RealBench run, but even the newest version of P95 set for max temps doesn't push it a over 80. Though I have heard Skylake-X runs hot.
1.33v. Temps are good though, mid 60s under full load. During gaming voltage doesn't peak as high and temps are in the mid-upper 40's.
After testing, 4.4 gives me a whopping 360 extra points in Fire Strike over 4.3. Think I'll just stick with the safer voltage haha.
Skylake and Kaby Lake have essentially the same IPC, Broadwell-E isn't too far behind. Biggest issue with it is the frequency limit(I settled on 4.3GHz because 4.4 wasn't worth 1.41v). But yeah, $220 for an X99 Taichi, so price wasn't too bad and it's one of the better X99 boards.
One of the next things on the list is a pair of ML120 to add to the radiator.
This is a $400 processor, the 8700K will more than likely be priced somewhere in the mid 300's. 6850K for the PCIe lanes, 7800X for a faster 6 core, 7700K for pure speed, 1700 for multicore performance. The $300-400 range is ripe with pickings to suit various needs, no real need to play the waiting game(something better will be around the corner anyway).
One thing you're forgetting is that a higher average frame rate isn't always better. 6 and 8 core processors may cap out lower, but frame pacing is generally smoother and minimums are often better. Here's a good example(keep in mind that Intel's 6 core CPU's are faster than Ryzen 5).
I have those speakers. They're so good.
Why do people insist on these "Oh, I built a worse PC for less money and used that money to buy a monitor" comments? Good for you?
Let's just say there's a reason Intel is transitioning to 6 core i5's and i7's...
I'm assuming because 6 cores is nowhere near as overkill as 12 or 16 :V
To be fair, 7740X's seem to be an almost guaranteed 5GHz, with a fairly good chunk able to hit 5.2-5.3 with just a decent AIO. $220 for a cheap X299 motherboard isn't much worse than the cost of a decent Z270.
Speaking of older 6 cores though, the 6850K is on sale for $350-$360. Cheap way to get a large amount of PCIe lanes and a pretty good 6 core CPU. I actually just upgraded to one. You've got a good 12% clock speed advantage on me though.
I'm having a hell of a time getting 4.4 stable. It will pass my first short stress test, but the vcore is ranging between 1.4 and 1.42(1.39 in BIOS, vinput at 1.85, lowest LLC available).
This was a platform switch, not a brand new build. High speed storage is low on my list of priorities right now. This POS Toshiba HDD needs to go before that.
I have a 2TB HDD and a 256GB SSD in my gaming rig and both are almost full...
Man, don't give people advice on this site. You don't have a clue about tech, you just lurk forums. I bet you've never even touched a 10 series Nvidia card, let alone used one. Literally everything you've said is BS. Just stop. There is nothing wrong with this build, or any of the parts in the selections. You're just a typical forum ***** that just memorized a few name brands and specs.
That is complete BS. There are very few games where an i7 has increased performance over an i5.
This build is actually out of commission and is now this: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/hgbXsY
But as far as THIS build goes, it was good for what it was! The i3 really held the PC back in Cities Skylines but that's a very CPU intensive game, but in almost every other game it was just fine. CPU temps were pretty good. 60's or so for a typical gaming load. GPU stayed under 70 degrees with a pretty good overclock and custom fan curve. The new build is even more cramped and the GPU still stays under 70 with a slightly higher OC, but that has a 7600K at 5GHz with an AIO cooler.
I would recommend not getting this Cooler Master case though. The Fractal Design case in the new one was nice, but there are some quirks with the PSU installation. There are a lot of pretty decent mITX cases for under $50 though. Also, I would suggest getting either the Pentium G4560 or Ryzen 3 over an i3. Pentium if you're on a tight budget, R3 if you can do $110 for the CPU.
Haha so who made most of the aesthetic choices? Or are you two on that level where one pointed at something and the other was like "I was hoping you would pick that"?
I love...love, love, LOVE, surround monitor setups.
You guys got matching keyboard, mice and monitors too?
That is adorable. You two get Best Couple of the Decade award haha. How long have you been married?
These builds look amazing too. I love those fans. Never mind the fact that they're great fans, they just look so good.
Definitely deserves a feature if you ask me. The whole setup looks amazing! And the PC build itself is awesome too, awesome idea for the CPU heatsink. What would also be cool is if the case had a partial glass side panel, showing off the GPU(similar to what you did with the last 2 pics, with the side panel off).
Silicon lottery, honestly.
THE MERGING IS COMPLETE
Eh, depends on what you compare. On similar core counts Intel will definitely be better(for more money too), but I'd imagine at the same price...$1000 will get you much better multi-threaded performance despite a clock speed/IPC disadvantage thanks to the additional 6C/12T. As you said, it still won't hang in single core performance, but if you're buying a 10 core CPU already...chances are it's because you need the cores more than anything.
I'm seeing $799 and $999 for the 12 and 16 core respectively.
Couldn't wait for the $800 12 core Threadripper? Or the quad channel memory beneficial to you?
Damn, with that much memory I'd imagine the speed will become a hindrance before the size! Looks great, the H7 makes any white build look even better.
For $130 that's not a bad CPU. I'm sure you could get it to 4.8GHz easily, potentially higher with an AIO.
My life for Aiur!
But for future reference "xflow" means cross flow, which is what both of your rads are. It means the water goes in one corner and comes out the opposite corner making a single pass by the fans. Rads with inlets on the same end make 2 passes, and as such cool the liquid more effectively. That's why I asked how you like them, because they do not work as well simply by design, but some are better than others.
Well since you can't read and have no idea what you're talking about, I guess I'm done here.
Enjoy your PC.
Absolutely. You'll hit a limit sooner than with a liquid cooler, but H7 is no slouch.
I use RealBench for long term stability testing(an 8 hour run) and I peak in the mid 70's for the whole CPU package, with the hottest core peaking around 80. My motherboard has a limited amount of thermal sensors, but what it does have reads in the mid 40's under heavy loads. Prime95 heats the CPU up much faster, but I don't use that anymore because it's just overkill for testing a gaming PC's overclock. Gaming CPU package temps are usually the low-mid 50's unless it is a CPU intensive game, then it's low-mid 60's.
I mean the back one looks like a cross flow radiator in the picture, those are usually single pass instead of dual pass so they have less cooling potential. Some aren't that great but some are still pretty good.
If you end up getting a 1080 Ti and aren't gaming at 4K, you should really let the GPU do the encoding. You'll have the smoothest gameplay and stream.
Or just use the GPU to encode. This build does include a 1080 Ti after all...
You'd be surprised what those things can do. It's not a high end CPU by any means, but it'll get the job done for a while.
Ketchup and mayo with a little bit of mustard :P
How are you liking those xflow radiators?
The C7 is pretty quiet, even if you manually crank the fan speed up all the way it's not that bad. I've only used it with Intel processors, but it's pretty good for it's size, better than stock coolers.
Dolphin will more than likely always be a 2 core application, there just isn't really a feasible way to break the work down for multiple cores(plus,with Skylake IPC and clock speeds, there's little need to). That's something that I think a lot of people fail to realize, not everything can be split up to run on multiple cores.
Skylake IPC at 5GHz is pretty fast, I will definitely say that. Going to this from a stock i3 6100 has at least tripled framerate in Cities Skylines.
The worst part about X299 is how they gimped yet another CPU when it comes to PCIe lanes and severely cut the cache size. We'll have to see how the 7900X compares to the 6950X with almost half the cache cut, but I mean...a drop of $800 or so in price in a year? They're at least learning something.
Price to performance ratio isn't the same as performance though. Better bang for your buck isn't going to make your PC faster. Unless you require multi-threaded performance you will get better results from Intel, but you will have to pay for it.
Believe me, I wanted Ryzen to be the "do it all for less" line of CPUs. They're a better value and have way better multi-core performance, but that wasn't what I needed so I had to pay more for fewer cores that are faster. But! I did get a good bundle combo on the CPU and motherboard, so it's not too bad.
Used for video streaming, movies, 96" gaming and emulation.
Used for video streaming, movies, 96" gaming and emulation.
For this purpose, an R5 1600 can't touch a 7600K @ 5GHz.