Thanks for the nice comments. :-)
(Perhaps I'm being a complete moron, but what's so funny about 'niggles'?)
Thanks again for your advice, upon which, I got the Mini C.
Here it is: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/b/zHq48d
Fabulously good to hear.
My decision is made - very clearly.
... and is quite a bit cheaper too. Good. Thanks for your message.
Nice one - cheers! :-)
I don't remember which BIOS version the MOBO was shipped with, but posting was no problem.
With the OS installed, I then ran an 'update everything MSI', which included BIOS update to 7A38v16.
Since then, 7A38v17 has been released - but I found this very unstable.
My previous OC of 4GHz was no longer achievable, so I reverted to v16 - and my previous OC was restored.
(I've since upgraded to a R5 1600, and this CPU had exactly the same instability issues with v17 as the R3 1200 had - so this is definitely a BIOS, not CPU, problem).
Hope some of that helps!
You're both right. I could have skinned this cat any one of a million different, more sensible, boring ways. Instead, I chose the slower and (for me) more fun route of gradual discovery! This way, I get to play more, experiment and have much more upgrade potential later = more fun!
This isn't all about cost or performance; it's about enjoying the journey - and I am, enormously!
But thanks for your thoughts. :-)
Thanks - I'll check it out :-)
Yeah, looks good - I think I just became subscriber #154,069. Cheers!
I could give you some money - or I could have lots of fun choosing, sourcing and fitting a ridiculously over-the-top AIO to my first, new build, just because I like the look of it. Hmmmm... you're right, it's a tough choice. ;-)
That almost sounds like a recommendation, so please tell me: what about it? Why is it so good?
I don't know if you're going to like this answer any more than my pairing of the Captain with a Ryzen 3, but..., "Why not?"
I'm afraid LTT wasn't on my watch list
Sorry for the late reply; something came up.
Many thanks for your efforts, and for the information. Great stuff! :-)
That's really kind - yes, I'm very happy to wait a few days for measurements. I've been planning this build for a several months so there's really no rush.
Really appreciate your calculations thus far too. Seems like it might be a close shave but fingers crossed I'll be OK. And as for the GPU, yeah, I'm hopeful of nothing any longer than that; should find out more from Computex weekend after next.
Many thanks again. Hope you're enjoying your stroll around D.C.
Really great to see a good, in-depth review that includes this new Phanteks case, thanks.
For what seems like the same reasons you mentioned, I'm also really interested in this case, although I'm thinking of sticking a big old AIO CPU cooler in there. I found something calling itself a Liquid Freezer 360 from Arctic that felt like a Eureka moment - it's an AIO that comes with six (!!) fans for a push/pull config. I do believe they're all PWM too. Isn't that lovely?
My question is simply this: would it fit?
The pics I've found so far of the removable plate at the front of the case aren't so good - and the manual doesn't seem to include any dimensions. Short of buying a case myself and measuring it, I'm hoping you could help me out with your opinion?
As for GPU and its length - I've no idea. I'm waiting for Vega and hopefully, a water-cooled derivative with a 120/140 I'm hoping to stick at the back. As for actual board length... well, hopefully not as long as the Frontier versions they've been touting lately. We'll see.
Thanks for any help. And I hope your Dad's enjoying his new machine. Cheerz