You betcha!! Let us know what you think of the Vega 64! Good to see more people buying AMD cards. Curious to see what their follow-up cards will be!
Enjoy the build my friend!
Feel free to reach out if you have any questions!
I'm glad I could help!!! It's always wonderful to hear that!
That's supposed to be an excellent monitor! Good choice! The PSU should also be good (as well as the SSD).
NOW, lets get to the nitty gritty!
I would strongly recommend upgrading the CPU and selling the current one if you can. The extra cores are really starting to help these days! The i5 8600k would be great if you are primarily gaming, or one of the AMD chips! The Ryzen series is AWESOME. For high FPS numbers (if you're using a very high refresh rate monitor), you may want to go with the "latest and greatest" Intel chip. However, if you're sitting below 144hz, you can go with an AMD chip that actually runs COOLER than the Intel chips! This may be something for you to consider!
As for the GPU, I actually don't have much personal experience with AMD cards. I would personally recommend waiting for the next generation of NVIDIA cards (and maybe just picking up a 10 series card as the coming 20 series will knock their prices down). A 1070 or 1070TI should do the trick!!
As for the motherboard, that is an excellent board!! If you are going to keep that i5, that would be a fine board for you! However, if going AMD, anything that looks nice and has good reviews will be a solid choice! If you need help picking a specific one, please don't hesitate to ask!
The cooler should be OK, HOWEVER, I would stick with air cooling in this case. I hear its quite difficult to get that cooler in there. Also, low end AIOs are typically no better than low-medium end air coolers. There are also fewer points of failure in an air cooler (so if you're moving the system around a lot, less chance for breaking something).
Let me know if you need anything else!
I would recommend that GPU! I didn't have any qualms about using the card in the build list. However, I would imagine that the temps would be better with that blower style (thereby ideally gaining some longevity and perhaps performance -- though this is hypothetical and would need ACTUAL testing).
That will be awesome! I can't wait to see it posted!
Good luck my friend! Happy gaming!!!! :D
Unless you modify the case (which I ultimately did - please let me know if you have any of those specific questions!!), the system (at least with my style GPU fan) will be blowing both up AND down at the CPU fan. A blower will cycle it out the HDMI side of the card (removing hot air). I would actually avoid adding any extra fans personally. Extra cables are NOT an ideal thing to deal with. Also, its not the GPU's ability to cool itself, its the case's ability to cool the CPU as the GPU in this fan config blows air AT the CPU area and prevents the air from exiting the CPU compartment. I would recommend a pull config (bring cool air IN -- otherwise you're bringing in hot GPU air into the CPU cooler and then blowing that all out below the GPU, fighting thermal nature....
I found that the GPU size didn't really matter (though you can certainly try it yourself :) ) but really the issue is blower style versus typical aftermarket (where air is blown down and then radiates UP).
That was my biggest issue!
Let me know if you have any questions! I'll see if I can help! :)
I liked the Cryorig C1! It fit my color scheme as well as offered some amazing cooling capabilities for the size. I was planning on transporting the machine a lot and was worried about bumps loosening the fittings on the AIO. I "overclocked" it, meaning I set the RAM to the "OC'd" settings (3200mhz with XMP) and then held the CPU all core boost to 4.5 or 4.6mhz with a locked vcore of 1.12 I believe. As you may know, voltages kill CPUs before heat does. This vcore is considered very low! :)
Totally fit in my system :)
Thanks! I appreciate it! I loved that thing. Will be building something similar when I need another super powerful laptop killer!
Best of luck! :)
As noted in the description, there are certainly a couple of key things to note. The first is, do NOT expect to do much overclocking, unless you delid the CPU. Even then, no guarantees. Secondly, if you can, get a blower style GPU (aka, reference). This may result in lower overall performance due to thermal throttling at the GPU core, however, it will prevent hot air from being shot at the CPU cooler and raising overall temperatures. My system was extremely quiet at idle, and about average while under load. I took off the top case bracket and this helped the GPU to breath better!
I actually sold the machine about a month ago to use the funds to start more tech projects! It was an excellent performer during the time when I had it!! :)
Yes it does! :)
Welcome to PC gaming my friend! Love the build too!
I'd try and add it via the PCPartpicker site! :)
That's awesome! Those are fine temperatures!
What are you getting for temps?
You may be able to! I haven't tried
Nice! Love the build :D
Honestly, as long as you aren't breaking 85c, you're in the clear. I've hit 80c once and a while, but its usually in the upper 70s (which is fine for an SFF build such as this, especially at 100% load with both the CPU and GPU)! If your voltages are low, then you're extra safe :)
Up to you if you want to delid of course! I really do recommend the Cryorig C1 though!
I'm running it with the side panel removed while I modify it, will upload pics when its done!
Welcome! I think you did a great job with your new build! What are your temps at load with that CPU (given that it has not been delidded)?
What are you getting temperature-wise on the CPU?
Are you also pulling high 70s and low 80s on your chip?
Sorry for the late response time! So I just decided to skip further headache and go with the reset switch controlling the front LED (use the included LED box).
As for wiring tips, I would say its ALL about getting a fully modular PSU with good cables. Based on my temperatures, I am going to try a bold modification to the side panel that will ALSO allow for my cables to have more space and my system to breathe better. I used zip ties to wrap up and fold the cables so they would fit between the PSU and the metal GPU brace above it. This requires taking the system apart/planning EACH cable that you put in. Yup. Its a pain XD
But I like the case, I just wish they gave up like an extra INCH in height for the cables.
I'm glad I could help! If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
Definitely not :(
It would likely help temps. I am actually going to mod the case soon, but there is absolutely NO room for a 120mm side fan
I had a MUCH harder time getting the C1 to MOUNT to the board than fitting it. Just know that the board has to go in BEFORE the PSU. I am not using any of the case fans. There is simply not enough room for them (and I don't want the extra noise). As for the PSU, I believe that if you've build a few PCs before you shouldn't have THAT much trouble with a full ATX. I'd still stand by this PSU selection and form factor! You SHOULD be able to fit it. I would call up Silverstone though! I did and their support is almost as good as EVGA! I hope that helps :)
I thought I updated that! Thanks for pointing that out :)
"Good" CPU temperature is highly subjective. Anywhere from 80-85c peak load temps for extended time isn't detrimental to CPU longevity. Not too worried but I did consider it at one point. I've since modified the side panel and reduced temps even further as well!
Hi friend! The RAM clearance on my Corsair LP RAM is perfectly fine, though I would be careful with a G.Skill set. It MAY not have the clearance. I'd try putting your exact RAM in Pcpartpicker with my build!
I'm also surprised at the Corsair experience. If you'd still like to know more about that, I'd post on the Linus Tech Tips forums. People are super helpful there and there are even a couple of employees from places like Corsair who share a little of "inside knowledge" like that! I'm already on it as "CrippledROBOT"
I've never actually dealt with them via email. I've only ever called them. They have 24/7 support that is located in whatever country that you are in which is really nice. In my experience, when it comes to customer service, EVGA takes the cake, followed by Seasonic and their dedicated email team, ASUS ROG support (on the forums as well as via instant chat), followed by Intel who are a little challenging to get in touch with but once you do, the do everything to help you out. I've heard that AMD support is even better, though I have no personal experience with their tech support (the only chip I ever had that was AMD was a Phenom II 965 Black Edition which was a killer chip at the time).
Great build friend! That's the perfect size. Though I'm quite surprised at your experience with EVGA customer service... I've never had a problem before myself!
I am in the updated version of this case and I get slightly lower temperatures on the CPU. If it fits, get a Cryorig C1, that helped my temps significantly. BUT, as long as you are not crossing 85c, you should be fine. My personal cut off point on my 8600k is 80c. Great build friend!
I also may just have a hotter chip. Every chip, every GPU, every PSU, etc is a little different. I can get to 5ghz no problem but the cooler and case just don't allow for it safely. I likely just got a warm chip (though while at stock speeds she's totally fine)!
I literally had to go into my system with 91% isopropyl alcohol and a tissue and wipe blood off of my RAM. Welcome to the club! I am at 4.5ghz with a fairly low voltage. Though its only certain games that'll get me to that temperature. Something like Cities Skylines, GTA 5, etc (fairly CPU heavy games) won't get me past like 70c tops. For whatever reason, BF1 really likes to hit my CPU hard. I'm also playing at 144hz and 1440p so everything is running rather hard. The higher the refresh rate, the higher CPU usage. Using my 4k tv my temperatures in BF1 peaked at 70, but in 1440p at 144hz I'll peak at 77-79c
hmmm I didn't have any trouble with mine! Try running Memtest86 if it still doesn't work. Or try swapping the RAM sticks to the seemingly functional RAM slot to ensure that at least the RAM works. You may just have a bad board which would suck but if you ordered it from Amazon, you have a month to return it, no questions asked.
also, make sure you upload some pics and data on your new build! Can't want to see it!!!
Yup! The C1 is slightly offset! Don't worry about it! How was installing that cooler! XD
I took forever trying to get it to fit/mount to the board. And I have the RGB light hooked up to the power box thing which is hooked up to a molex connector coming off of the PSU. I hope that makes sense...If not, get the case instructions out and take a look at the RGB header section. It suggests two different ways to provide RGB lighting, one through board control and one with manual control via the reset switch. I chose the reset switch option! Cheers friend! Let me know if you have any questions/clarifications!
Oh nice! Those are solid chips. With my CPU cooler, the side panel fan IS pretty much useless. I couldn't seem to fit the panel fan with my cooler (and it was also fairly loud/poor quality fan). The one(s) that blow on the GPU are the same quality and I just felt that I'd rather a quiet build than a loud and slightly cooler build, especially as my temperatures are nothing to really worry about (all hardware below 80c). From my fairly extensive research, the best CPU cooler for this case is indeed the Cryorig C1. IT WILL BE A TIGHT FIT AND SEEM LIKE IT CANT FIT IN THE CASE, BUT IT CAN! Also, installing that thing is a pain. You'll see. It takes like a good half hour at least. If you aren't already on the Linus Tech Tips forums, you should totally join!
Nice! Those are solid temperatures. I'm using an even smaller cooler in an even smaller case and getting to that level and even a little farther (though staying below 80c) at a 4.6ghz overclock at max load over time (Battlefield 1, etc).
I'm really glad you like it! Definitely make sure you post your build on here! Anything special? If you even want to CONSIDER overclocking, make SURE you have this cooler (or similar). As there is no airflow (take a look at some of the latest pics), temperatures be fairly high (though generally expected levels for high-power ITX builds). That is the biggest thing. Don't be alarmed by temperatures below 80c on the GPU or GPU. If you're in the 80-85c range on the CPU, try to reduce CPU voltages. Anything higher than 85c is not good and should be avoided. Fortunately, I managed to pull off a small overclock to 4.5ghz at a super low voltage and I'm rather happy.
Remember that when you build small, you sacrifice temperatures and oftentimes performance for the sheer portability.
Take your time with cable management. Make SURE that you put your PSU BEFORE YOUR MOTHERBOARD.
Looking forward to hearing about your new machine!
No problem! I honestly would not change anything. I never intended to really push my CPU to 5ghz due to thermal constraints. That is also the biggest issue with this case. Don't expect to overclock very high or with high voltages but also expect high temperatures under maximum load (no higher than 80c on the CPU which is "fine", but not the greatest thing ever). The GPU can get to 79c at maximum load over extended period of time as well. This is also within acceptable range. The temperatures are the price that you pay for a small and powerful machine.
That all being said, if you are not comfortable with high temps, you can delid OR go with the i5 8400 and a GTX 1070/1080 (the later is really what this case was made for I think).
Either way, I highly recommend my set up. As someone who is used to water cooled low temp systems (peaking in the 60s), hitting 80c after a while scared the bejesus out of me until I did more research. People with ultra powerful and ultra tight systems are getting these temperatures AND higher.
Cheers friend! Make sure you post your build so we can all see it!
The case is not designed for such a large drive. Even without me using old-school SSDs, the pictures indicate that there is quite literally NO room for anything... including remotely acceptable airflow.
Hey friend! That's actually a good question that is rather hard to answer. In regards to the physical size of the PC, it should fit in a large carry on bag (better than standard luggage as they may throw your suitcase unless you list it as fragile and even then, who knows). However I do not fly very often and the rules are always changing. You are best off calling ahead and asking them if you can bring your "mini desktop PC in a carry-on bag". Worst case, they tell you that you cant. Failing to call ahead could mean you arrive at your gate/security checkpoint and they say "sorry, can't take that with you" and you're stuck choosing between missing your flight or throwing your PC in the trash.
I'd say yes, you should be able to fly with it. Ive seen and heard of people flying with MUCH more unusual stuff and have heard of people building MITX systems for rendering on the go (including taking them on flights between locations). Though again, call ahead to confirm. I can't imagine being told to either throw it away or miss the flight.
Those are good temps! Good to hear friend!
Awesome build friend! I'd like to note however, that 58c while gaming is NOT bad with Coffee Lake (especially if you have a small chassis). With Coffee Lake, the low 80s are considered acceptable. Ideal? No, but safe? Yes.
Been ordering from Newegg for 6+ years and never had an issue with them. Remember that (in general) it isn't Newegg's fault if a package arrives damaged. The service that ships the item (UPS, Fedex, etc) is responsible. HOWEVER, if Newegg packaged the item poorly, that may be a different story. Cheers! :)
Awesome! Thanks for the reply!
Solid my friend! That's a good temp for a good clock speed considering the cooler! I'm getting the same for my i5 8600k at Max load too.
Are you getting 80c at load at 4.8ghz or 80c at 5ghz?
Did you get to play with the machine before delidding? If so, what were the temps?
At max load what temperatures does your GPU reach at maximum load? I have the same chassis but in a different orientation (I have the GPU up and the CPU down to let my GPU breath a little better).
Jealous. Love it! +1